So easy to take the moral high ground when you are in opposition not so easy when you are in power. Funny how they never ignore the independent ombudsman when they say MPs should get a pay rise.
And the multi billions a year for the illegal and non working immigrants, no ones mentioning. Its only us pensioners that's a burden on the tax payer it seems!
A lot of these MPs in the Labour Party better start looking for jobs now because we know they're only going to be in for 1 term it's a disgrace what they're doing to this country
Kevin Maguire’s face says it all whenever there’s positive news about Reform. He knows that Reform’s momentum is growing fast and can’t stand that common sense is rising.
Labour "I'm alright Jack", when they get thousands in "gifts", holidays, clothes, heating allowance, concert tickets, and anything their greedy little minds can claim on expenses. £2,000 for Waspi women is better deserved, and a drop in the ocean in comparison.😮
As an independence voter l would like to thank Labour for helping our road to glory. Reform would also like to thank Labour for their increase in popularity.
Most of us started work at the age of 14yrs and 15yrs and worked all our lives and then without warning increased our retirement age by 5 yrs without warning.
@@jessicarayns1805 That’s not the point! Most adults nowadays don’t start working until after the age of 18. I have worked all my life from an early age, worked up to 8 month’s pregnant, and even after having my children I worked twilight jobs which I hated to support my family. Women were on far less wages than men. Yes talked about it but never actually enforced it until a later date. Not only that very little people my age had computers to research what was going on.
Can anyone explain to me why these women are actually entitled to anything? The change was made in 1995, does no one look at their pension age at any point in 30 years?? Should men not be compensated for having to retire later for so long, especially as in those days they were traditionally doing more physical labour? Really unsure why these women are protesting. As a woman in my late 30s I doubt I’ll retire until my 70s, it’s very hard to feel too much sympathy. This feels like yet another case of boomers trying claw more money from working age people 🤷♀️
Those of us who have paid our taxes and National Insurance throughout our working lives are being denied our basic rights, now that we are pensioners, for the sake of "saving the tax payers money" we are told. Pull the other one Mr. Starmer!
When you've paid in to the "system" for 44+ years to qualify for the OLD State Pension, which is now some £60 less per week than the NEW pension which requires only 35 years to fully qualify, then you too would be complaining that "your basic rights are not treated equally" Look at the facts before you criticize!!@@paulbrightwell3621
@@paulbrightwell3621 You overlook the fact we started work in the 70’x. We were never treated equally throughout most of our working lives unlike todays women. We were paid less often while doing same job as male colleagues, had less promotion opportunities and were often prevented from being given same pension schemes as our male colleagues. Then we were not told our pension age had changed - clearly you are too young to appreciate this but I hope when you are about to retire you don’t suddenly find out you have to work 6 more years and no-one told you
Plus women die younger and women are overwhelmingly the beneficiaries of their husband’s work and private pension. I do not buy this gender pension gap.
When we started work in the 70’s we were never treated equally throughout most of our working lives unlike todays women. We were paid less often while doing same job as male colleagues, had less promotion opportunities and were often prevented from being given same pension schemes as our male colleagues. Then we were not told our pension age had changed - clearly you are too young to appreciate this but I hope when you are about to retire you don’t suddenly find out you have to work 6 more years and no-one told you
Every incoming government inherits the previous governments outstanding bills. It’s funny how this government found the money to give their union friends huge pay rises without any increase in productivity, was this just a thank you for disrupting the previous government. Good luck with future pay negotiations.
They are pensioners ! Starmer are freezing them, giving alternative healthcare with Assisted Dying and they want compensation ! It's a sick joke on pensioners 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Women don't earn enough , it affects the pension in the long run, why count partners earnings? Some partners don't contribute ? Ladies run the house in most cases ? It's an old fashioned way of thinking that some men will contribute. It doesn't work in this day and age.
All the people complaining need to explain where the money is coming from. We have to be honest in this country and realise we are broke as a nation and there are two choices. We can go back to basics and the government need to account for every penny of tax they currently receive and make cuts where needed and invest in the essentials until the books are balanced and make policies to get the economy moving and are business friendly. The second option is to raise taxes to invest in infrastructure that the taxpayer today will not benefit today but in 10-15 years. But with this country most people want a hand out and instant results which is unrealistic.
Oh dear more labour lies before an election. So much for bringing back trust in politics. And poor old Kevin does his best to fill the air time with rants so hopefully they move on to another segment but its not working. He looks angry and broken on constant firefighting labour lies.
I wish Andrew Pierce and Kevin Maguire were more objective as they flip flop on their views depending on who is in office. I have seen enough that for example Andrew was with the Tory government to not pay the WASPI women but now Labour are in charge he is criticising them for not paying. Kevin criticised the Tories for not paying but is now contorting himself to say why Labour can’t pay.
I find it very strange that these ladies are being denied this pension. At the moment, the British government is allowing Irish people who worked in the UK at some time to continue paying their pension contributions in the uk even though they have returned to Ireland. For about €4000 over their time to retirement, they are entitled to approximately €1150 per month. Yet these ladies are denied what has been promised by various government ministers.
They had no chance of building works pension or earning high wages like the men of the same era .....my wife was told she would get her state pension at 60 all her life ....and was only encouraged to be a home maker when at school . Young women today can be whatever they want and earn megabucks in wages ....waspi women didnt
So the ombudsman said that 90% of women knew about the change but recommended a flat payment to every woman affected.... So 90% would receive a payment they are not entitled to. The vast majority of waspi women were diligent with their own finances, paid attention to the news and planned accordingly. The changes were announced in 1995 and we're not brought in until 2010. 15 years notice which is a lot more than a great deal of government policy change gets. There are none so blind as those who won't see. The problem is the government sent out letters, which they were never obliged to do in the first place, and cocked it up.
@owenlewis The 2020 date was subsequently brought forward to 2018, speeding up the process. The women campaigning say they were not adequately notified.
@@barbarajones9385 Wow, so you retired at most 18 months later than you thought with over half a decade of notice to anyone who paid the blindest bit of notice. WASPI's lack of awareness shouldn't be my problem as a taxpayer to solve.
No current government has to rectify the past misdeeds of previous governments. We have to accept it. The current government can do whatever it wants as it has a huge majority in the Commons. It's under no legal or moral obligation to compensate anyone. The new government has announced compensation for contaminated blood victims but that wasn't due to past Conservative policy. That was due to NHS incompetence.
Well I only found out when I saw a financial advisor about another matter, I had no idea and had received no paperwork whatsoever and I worked for 51 years! The fact I didn't watch the news is NOT reason enough for missed information received!
You overlook the fact we started work in the 70’x. We were never treated equally throughout most of our working lives unlike todays women. We were paid less often while doing same job as male colleagues, had less promotion opportunities and were often prevented from being given same pension schemes as our male colleagues. Then we were not told our pension age had changed - clearly you are too young to appreciate this but I hope when you are about to retire you don’t suddenly find out you have to work 6 more years and no-one told you
I knew the pension age would chamge in phases as per the 1995 act. But i didnt know and wasnt told that they were going to do it suddenly. I was looking after my dying parents and would retire at 61. I only knew qhen my pension didn't arrive! Ive had to survive an extra surprise 5 years and have spent all my savings, taken early private pension and do part time work but am now destitute and not yet 66! I really needed a couple of thousand quid to survive the final few months. I dont know now what im going to do.
We often started work at 16 and we faced pay and promotional inequality when we started working in the 70’s - luckily things are better for women now. I am so disgusted with this Government - betrayed WASPI Women, betrayed farmers,, took pensioners heating allowance, no sign of the promised ban on hunting. Beware they poem: First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me
This has nothing to do with the Labour government though. Quote The Conservative government announced its plans to raise the state pension age for women in 1993, with the plan being to increase it gradually between 2010 and 2020. In 2010, the Conservative-Lib Dem coalition then sped up the process. According to a parliamentary ombudsman, the government met the expected standards on communication on this issue between 1995 and 2004. But it said "decision-making between 2005 and 2007 led to a 28-month delay in starting to send letters to 1950s-born women". The ombudsman said research reported in 2004 showed information about the changes was not reaching the people who needed it most. But the government "failed to take this feedback into account properly", the ombudsman said. The government proposed writing directly to the women affected in November 2006, but did not do so until December 2007. End quote It's irrelevant what the John Major led Conservative government of 1993 implemented. It has zero importance to the 2024 Labour government. They were not in power in 1993. You can argue Keir Starmer and the Labour Party are liars for saying the Waspi women should be helped: Kier Starmer in 2022 Quote "I think this is a real injustice. We need to do something about it because that wasn't the basis you paid in." ... but it's not the responsibility of the 2024 Labour government to rectify problems/compensate people for past Conservative policy. Ultimately it's not a Labour commitment. It wasn't a manifesto pledge. I don't mean that to dismiss the cause but each new government has to start from a clean slate. It inherits the economy (good or bad) from the previous government but it has to start from a clean slate and not be shackled by past incompetence. The harsh reality is the Labour government were not in power in 1993 and the Blair/Brown governments of 1997 to 2010 never dealt with the issue adequately. It has nothing to do with Kier Starmer's government.
According to a representative of the Ombudsman interviewed on LBC radio, *90 percent of women* were fully aware of the state pension raise at the time. It's been deemed the dept of work and pensions was at fault for 10 percent of women not knowing.
You overlook the fact we started work in the 70’x. We were never treated equally throughout most of our working lives unlike todays women. We were paid less often while doing same job as male colleagues, had less promotion opportunities and were often prevented from being given same pension schemes as our male colleagues. Then we were not told our pension age had changed - clearly you are too young to appreciate this but I hope when you are about to retire you don’t suddenly find out you have to work 6 more years and no-one told you
Labour did paint themselves into a corner with the promise to not increase taxes. Fact is the employee pwnsion contribution is too low for the pension being received. It should have been increased to at least 7% a long time ago. As for WASPI compensation, the key problem is the blanket compensation. Should people be compensated for not knowing that the pension age was being increased for 15 years? So, any compensation should have been limited to those affected by the accelerated increase in pension age.
Yes the tories should of but they are no longer in power. Labour lied to those women to get votes and have now stabbed them in the back now they have taken power.
Kate, it's obvious neither you nor Tory boy are aware, there's not just the Waspi's, they just have the catchy name, there's the movement of women who took the DWP to court...TWICE . The Waspis only stood outside Parliament whereas, we, Back to 60, the larger group paid out & fought them in court (trouble is Johnson deliberately changed the judges around , in fact he completely messed with the judiciary) result, we lost the appeal. To ignore us makes you all hypocrites , just like you're accusing this government of being ! Get your FACTS right ✅️
There is a silver lining to this decision,it means there is more money to give away to foreigners and their countries,isn’t it nice to have an extremely benevolent prime monster
A kick in the teeth however what got to me was the smirk on the face of Rayner today in westminster. Watch the footage and see for yourself. Her new nickname should be Sneaky Pete, what a horrible piece she really is.
So what about children in Gaza .... I just wanna understand the magical logic you are considering things ....shame on all from the bottom of my heart I wish am not having any word in English because you are all fake 😢
I have every sympothy for your nation but why does this fall on the UK? We have children oaps families here that need help monies are sent from the UK and not just here all over the nations so what more do you want all nations to do what about your government's????????
So easy to take the moral high ground when you are in opposition not so easy when you are in power. Funny how they never ignore the independent ombudsman when they say MPs should get a pay rise.
...because the Ombudsman is not 'independent'...part of the same toxic metropolitan class...
It’s amazing the government can find so much money to send abroad
And the multi billions a year for the illegal and non working immigrants, no ones mentioning. Its only us pensioners that's a burden on the tax payer it seems!
A lot of these MPs in the Labour Party better start looking for jobs now because we know they're only going to be in for 1 term it's a disgrace what they're doing to this country
Still another 4 years and by then their pockets will be filled with millions of pounds of our money they won’t need to work!
Why don't this Labour Party pay the British people what they owe before sending millions abroad
Because the tories spaffed it all up the wall!
@@MacTheRipper1how does that change the fact that labour have been sending money abroad that should stay in this country
@@jobbybaps You should know that Labour and their supporters never answer a question but always change the subject.
@@jobbybaps .........PRECISELY
Shameful. This is no Labour government.
Kevin Maguire’s face says it all whenever there’s positive news about Reform.
He knows that Reform’s momentum is growing fast and can’t stand that common sense is rising.
Yea UKIP ruined this country with brexit and now reform can finish it off. You are chumps.
Do you think Reform would have paid the Waspi women? Doubt it.
So glad that our country isn’t dependent on Kevin's views
Labour "I'm alright Jack", when they get thousands in "gifts", holidays, clothes, heating allowance, concert tickets, and anything their greedy little minds can claim on expenses. £2,000 for Waspi women is better deserved, and a drop in the ocean in comparison.😮
Don’t forget their 2 pay rises this year as well.
Flipping heck - that’s not a discussion - that’s a bunch of middle aged men talking over each other. All points are lost in the scramble to be heard.
Yeah , and who’s guilty re Pierce,s hair cut. Looks like he fell under his lawnmower, or his hairdresser was Kaylied.
Labour liars .
As an independence voter l would like to thank Labour for helping our road to glory. Reform would also like to thank Labour for their increase in popularity.
Aye but these politicians pensions will never be affected no matter how old they are.
They can find the money for foreign aid!!! in billions....
Labour say one thing, then do another......Just keep lying.
Funny how Angela Rayner has for once kept her foul mouth closed !
50million for syria
Yes that's OK though
Yes, financing more terrorists, insanity.
@@carolfletcher2601 ..........but "NO IT ISN'T"...........joke or not!
What 😮
Billions for illegal immigrants but only us pensionerscare a drain on the tax payer...funny that! 😢😢
Most of us started work at the age of 14yrs and 15yrs and worked all our lives and then without warning increased our retirement age by
5 yrs without warning.
And we faced in equality in pay and promotion so treble whammy really. So disgusted with Labour and democracy in general.
They said in 1995 they were increasing state pension age to be equalised to both 65 you had years to pay in.
@@jessicarayns1805 That’s not the point! Most adults nowadays don’t start working until after the age of 18. I have worked all my life from an early age, worked up to 8 month’s pregnant, and even after having my children I worked twilight jobs which I hated to support my family.
Women were on far less wages than men. Yes talked about it but never actually enforced it until a later date. Not only that very little people my age had computers to research what was going on.
Unbelievable. Only in Britain. Britain loves changing the rules while you’re playing the game.
What happened to the Labour councillor who was seen to be inciting violence?
Labour’s “Poll Tax” moment ! No one regardless of party likes being played 😡😡
50 million for a bunch of Syrian rebels
Absolutely disgusting behaviour from Labour
Labour are done forever
And Maguire, I hope.
Throughly agree. Next election i dont see them get 1 seat
Yep, along with the Tories, it’s literally time for reform.
@ Without a shadow of doubt friend.
That's why they are trying to stop the upcoming local elections 🙄
Of course they were never going to pay it! Our money is paying billions for keeping the politicians living the luxurious lives they lead !!
never will vote in labour again never....
Again ?
Shouldn't have done once
Ever
Why did you do it in the first place ?
Or our families. Tories are bad enough but Labour have done nothing but pensioner bash
No political party wanted to seriously give the WASPI women any renumeration. We have no real power and we are an insignificant group.
Yes they conned and lied and lied they are imposters. plain and simple
More votes for Reform 😃😃 Don’t forget to sign the government petition calling for a General Election...super easy to do 😃😃
Stop paying for migrant hotels
Can anyone explain to me why these women are actually entitled to anything? The change was made in 1995, does no one look at their pension age at any point in 30 years?? Should men not be compensated for having to retire later for so long, especially as in those days they were traditionally doing more physical labour? Really unsure why these women are protesting.
As a woman in my late 30s I doubt I’ll retire until my 70s, it’s very hard to feel too much sympathy. This feels like yet another case of boomers trying claw more money from working age people 🤷♀️
Read up on it properly and you will understand
Those of us who have paid our taxes and National Insurance throughout our working lives are being denied our basic rights, now that we are pensioners, for the sake of "saving the tax payers money" we are told. Pull the other one Mr. Starmer!
But the illegal immigrants aren't a drain on the rax payer are they? Costing us billions a year, EVERY YEAR! 😢
Your basic rights were to be treated equally - you got that and now your complaining! Did you mean basic rights with a cherry on top?
When you've paid in to the "system" for 44+ years to qualify for the OLD State Pension, which is now some £60 less per week than the NEW pension which requires only 35 years to fully qualify, then you too would be complaining that "your basic rights are not treated equally" Look at the facts before you criticize!!@@paulbrightwell3621
@@paulbrightwell3621 You overlook the fact we started work in the 70’x. We were never treated equally throughout most of our working lives unlike todays women. We were paid less often while doing same job as male colleagues, had less promotion opportunities and were often prevented from being given same pension schemes as our male colleagues. Then we were not told our pension age had changed - clearly you are too young to appreciate this but I hope when you are about to retire you don’t suddenly find out you have to work 6 more years and no-one told you
Honest question, why do weman get to retire 5 years early? I thought we wanted equality.
Plus women die younger and women are overwhelmingly the beneficiaries of their husband’s work and private pension. I do not buy this gender pension gap.
When we started work in the 70’s we were never treated equally throughout most of our working lives unlike todays women. We were paid less often while doing same job as male colleagues, had less promotion opportunities and were often prevented from being given same pension schemes as our male colleagues. Then we were not told our pension age had changed - clearly you are too young to appreciate this but I hope when you are about to retire you don’t suddenly find out you have to work 6 more years and no-one told you
Oh, by the way, Johnson backed our campaign in 2019, he was photographed with us , he seemed to develop amnesia from Dec that year !
Two tier justice against patriotic english people!
This government is a train crash
Every incoming government inherits the previous governments outstanding bills.
It’s funny how this government found the money to give their union friends huge pay rises without any increase in productivity, was this just a thank you for disrupting the previous government. Good luck with future pay negotiations.
Put all the elderly in nice warm hotels over the winter...... oh wait they're full.
They are pensioners ! Starmer are freezing them, giving alternative healthcare with Assisted Dying and they want compensation ! It's a sick joke on pensioners 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Tell Kevin they haven’t paid Horizon anything
Liars based on available funds.. no funds..no promises can be kept.. 🙄🙄🙄😎
If you promise to pay, then you pay .
Is there any way of kicking this government out?
Ask Putin.
Only a vote of no confidence by parliament so NO..😢
Yes, epetition with nearly 3 million signatures
Women don't earn enough , it affects the pension in the long run, why count partners earnings? Some partners don't contribute ? Ladies run the house in most cases ? It's an old fashioned way of thinking that some men will contribute. It doesn't work in this day and age.
All the people complaining need to explain where the money is coming from. We have to be honest in this country and realise we are broke as a nation and there are two choices. We can go back to basics and the government need to account for every penny of tax they currently receive and make cuts where needed and invest in the essentials until the books are balanced and make policies to get the economy moving and are business friendly. The second option is to raise taxes to invest in infrastructure that the taxpayer today will not benefit today but in 10-15 years. But with this country most people want a hand out and instant results which is unrealistic.
Starmer thinks he is god.
I can think of another name for him, and it's not nice 😕
@angelaeastwood3938 just think don't say please. Don't need anymore people in trouble for opinions. 😮💨
This show is getting beyond a joke. God help the future of broadcasting. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh dear more labour lies before an election. So much for bringing back trust in politics. And poor old Kevin does his best to fill the air time with rants so hopefully they move on to another segment but its not working. He looks angry and broken on constant firefighting labour lies.
I wish Andrew Pierce and Kevin Maguire were more objective as they flip flop on their views depending on who is in office.
I have seen enough that for example Andrew was with the Tory government to not pay the WASPI women but now Labour are in charge he is criticising them for not paying. Kevin criticised the Tories for not paying but is now contorting himself to say why Labour can’t pay.
Billions to the net zero hollocks, but not for pensioners and UK people.
I find it very strange that these ladies are being denied this pension.
At the moment, the British government is allowing Irish people who worked in the UK at some time to continue paying their pension contributions in the uk even though they have returned to Ireland. For about €4000 over their time to retirement, they are entitled to approximately €1150 per month.
Yet these ladies are denied what has been promised by various government ministers.
Just a point about Women who have ALWAYS wanted Equal Rights with Men. Now they are getting it with PENSIONS, they don't like it?
They had no chance of building works pension or earning high wages like the men of the same era .....my wife was told she would get her state pension at 60 all her life ....and was only encouraged to be a home maker when at school . Young women today can be whatever they want and earn megabucks in wages ....waspi women didnt
Get educated..
Get your facts right
So the ombudsman said that 90% of women knew about the change but recommended a flat payment to every woman affected.... So 90% would receive a payment they are not entitled to.
The vast majority of waspi women were diligent with their own finances, paid attention to the news and planned accordingly. The changes were announced in 1995 and we're not brought in until 2010. 15 years notice which is a lot more than a great deal of government policy change gets. There are none so blind as those who won't see. The problem is the government sent out letters, which they were never obliged to do in the first place, and cocked it up.
@owenlewis
The 2020 date was subsequently brought forward to 2018, speeding up the process. The women campaigning say they were not adequately notified.
We were not told as the ombudsman said
@@barbarajones9385 Wow, so you retired at most 18 months later than you thought with over half a decade of notice to anyone who paid the blindest bit of notice. WASPI's lack of awareness shouldn't be my problem as a taxpayer to solve.
No current government has to rectify the past misdeeds of previous governments.
We have to accept it.
The current government can do whatever it wants as it has a huge majority in the Commons. It's under no legal or moral obligation to compensate anyone. The new government has announced compensation for contaminated blood victims but that wasn't due to past Conservative policy. That was due to NHS incompetence.
Well I only found out when I saw a financial advisor about another matter, I had no idea and had received no paperwork whatsoever and I worked for 51 years! The fact I didn't watch the news is NOT reason enough for missed information received!
Looks like The WASPIs are going to sting Keir Starmer now ! 🐝 😂
I am surprised the clear inequity relating to men having to retire later is not considered unfair and requiring of compensation
Especially when men die younger than women 👀
You overlook the fact we started work in the 70’x. We were never treated equally throughout most of our working lives unlike todays women. We were paid less often while doing same job as male colleagues, had less promotion opportunities and were often prevented from being given same pension schemes as our male colleagues. Then we were not told our pension age had changed - clearly you are too young to appreciate this but I hope when you are about to retire you don’t suddenly find out you have to work 6 more years and no-one told you
As an American, I honestly thought (at first) they were referring to White Anglo Saxon Protestants.
The WASPI women believed them 😂😂😂😂?
Never get bewteen your opponent and a speeeding train. Let the Labour cheerleader talk of betrayal.
For goodness sake, stop talking over each other!!
Sorry what violence did peter lynch commit, or incite? Nothing and he was sent to jail
He pleaded guilty to violent disorder Pleaded Guilty
I knew the pension age would chamge in phases as per the 1995 act. But i didnt know and wasnt told that they were going to do it suddenly. I was looking after my dying parents and would retire at 61. I only knew qhen my pension didn't arrive! Ive had to survive an extra surprise 5 years and have spent all my savings, taken early private pension and do part time work but am now destitute and not yet 66! I really needed a couple of thousand quid to survive the final few months. I dont know now what im going to do.
Get a job?
@@Andrew-tx9jyat 66? Get real.
@@Andrew-tx9jyhow old are you?🤔
We often started work at 16 and we faced pay and promotional inequality when we started working in the 70’s - luckily things are better for women now. I am so disgusted with this Government - betrayed WASPI Women, betrayed farmers,, took pensioners heating allowance, no sign of the promised ban on hunting. Beware they poem: First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
This has nothing to do with the Labour government though.
Quote
The Conservative government announced its plans to raise the state pension age for women in 1993, with the plan being to increase it gradually between 2010 and 2020. In 2010, the Conservative-Lib Dem coalition then sped up the process.
According to a parliamentary ombudsman, the government met the expected standards on communication on this issue between 1995 and 2004.
But it said "decision-making between 2005 and 2007 led to a 28-month delay in starting to send letters to 1950s-born women".
The ombudsman said research reported in 2004 showed information about the changes was not reaching the people who needed it most.
But the government "failed to take this feedback into account properly", the ombudsman said. The government proposed writing directly to the women affected in November 2006, but did not do so until December 2007.
End quote
It's irrelevant what the John Major led Conservative government of 1993 implemented. It has zero importance to the 2024 Labour government. They were not in power in 1993.
You can argue Keir Starmer and the Labour Party are liars for saying the Waspi women should be helped:
Kier Starmer in 2022
Quote
"I think this is a real injustice. We need to do something about it because that wasn't the basis you paid in."
... but it's not the responsibility of the 2024 Labour government to rectify problems/compensate people for past Conservative policy. Ultimately it's not a Labour commitment. It wasn't a manifesto pledge. I don't mean that to dismiss the cause but each new government has to start from a clean slate. It inherits the economy (good or bad) from the previous government but it has to start from a clean slate and not be shackled by past incompetence. The harsh reality is the Labour government were not in power in 1993 and the Blair/Brown governments of 1997 to 2010 never dealt with the issue adequately. It has nothing to do with Kier Starmer's government.
So it is labour betrayal 😂 jeez
According to a representative of the Ombudsman interviewed on LBC radio, *90 percent of women* were fully aware of the state pension raise at the time. It's been deemed the dept of work and pensions was at fault for 10 percent of women not knowing.
Can someone please explaine the word "optics" to this shower.
While they’ve given themselves 2 pay rises this year which equals to nearly a 10 % rise!
We don't need this to and fro from Andrew and Kevin, it's tiresome
They just need to permanently replace Andrew as the conservative panelist on the show and they should be fine.
No, Maguire is tiresome.
Why should I have to pay compensation to a group of people who lived under a rock for 5 years? They should have paid attention to the news and HMRC.
You overlook the fact we started work in the 70’x. We were never treated equally throughout most of our working lives unlike todays women. We were paid less often while doing same job as male colleagues, had less promotion opportunities and were often prevented from being given same pension schemes as our male colleagues. Then we were not told our pension age had changed - clearly you are too young to appreciate this but I hope when you are about to retire you don’t suddenly find out you have to work 6 more years and no-one told you
The comments are full of women whining that 30 years wasn't enough time to plan to work for 5 more years.
Get your information right
Another betrayal on the pensioners !
Labour did paint themselves into a corner with the promise to not increase taxes.
Fact is the employee pwnsion contribution is too low for the pension being received. It should have been increased to at least 7% a long time ago.
As for WASPI compensation, the key problem is the blanket compensation. Should people be compensated for not knowing that the pension age was being increased for 15 years?
So, any compensation should have been limited to those affected by the accelerated increase in pension age.
KEVIN the Tories didn't appear to support the WASPI's, Reform uk say they would do the same as Labour! Labour ARE IN POWER & HAVE DONE THIS!
The tories should have paid them
Yes they should of but they are no longer in power. Labour took the moral high ground to win some votes and then stabbed those voters in the back.
I don’t see how that invalidates the fact that they’re due to the money and the current government needs to pay it as it’s now due.
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Yes the tories should of but they are no longer in power. Labour lied to those women to get votes and have now stabbed them in the back now they have taken power.
But labour said they would as its ALL on record!......They lied to get elected!
Kate, it's obvious neither you nor Tory boy are aware, there's not just the Waspi's, they just have the catchy name, there's the movement of women who took the DWP to court...TWICE . The Waspis only stood outside Parliament whereas, we, Back to 60, the larger group paid out & fought them in court (trouble is Johnson deliberately changed the judges around , in fact he completely messed with the judiciary) result, we lost the appeal. To ignore us makes you all hypocrites , just like you're accusing this government of being ! Get your FACTS right ✅️
Equal rights equal pay equal state retirement age
There is a silver lining to this decision,it means there is more money to give away to foreigners and their countries,isn’t it nice to have an extremely benevolent prime monster
What's next...bus passes??😢
More than likely 😢
Women live longer and expect equality except for pensions?
Can KEVIN defend this one
A kick in the teeth however what got to me was the smirk on the face of Rayner today in westminster. Watch the footage and see for yourself. Her new nickname should be Sneaky Pete, what a horrible piece she really is.
For all you labour voters. Hope your happy..
You get what you vote for
Enjoy the next four years
And then they all voted for labor... Then buyers remorse set in.. Then Rug Pull!
We have that with Brexit but nobody wants to talk about the ‘Great Victory’ almost like VE Day in its importance, we took back control… remember
TRUMP AND MUSK HAVE ALREADY MARKED STARMERS CARD
So if waspi goes all the way back to John mayor, did McGuire forget the Blair years in between 🤡
Not forgetting 14 years of Tory rule just imagine the WASPI women with the PPE billions embezzled by the TORIES
Have to pay the unions labour's backers
What far right groups are you referring to. 🙈
Makes you wonder who labour will go after next.
Babies ,tax them for being born
so they want equality, and now they dont?
women have longer life expectancy, they shuld retire later than men to actually make it fair.
i was wondering that
Nothing to do with equality,iy was how it was brought in
...did you watch the video? 🤣
They had a longer life expectancy, but not with the pension age being raised you want to check those figures again.
Lie after lie after lie,(i don t care kier).needs to go...all of them need ousting ,call a no confidence vote now
You talk over each other too much I couldn't make out what you were all saying
has anyone asked j. pie his views , lol
So what about nick lowles. Did he get jail for his fb posts
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So what about children in Gaza .... I just wanna understand the magical logic you are considering things ....shame on all from the bottom of my heart I wish am not having any word in English because you are all fake 😢
What about children in England
What about children in England. That's what we pay tax for not other countries sorry.
What you all should have said what about the children in the UK we are 4 together...
I have every sympothy for your nation but why does this fall on the UK? We have children oaps families here that need help monies are sent from the UK and not just here all over the nations so what more do you want all nations to do what about your government's????????