The Stanford Prison Experiment not only had to be stopped early, When the experiment was looked back on in hindsight, it was revealed that it didn't even work in the first place.
Wait, in what way did it not work? Like, did people test it again? Cause to me it just seems like a pretty cut and dry case: people in power do get weird with it. I mean... we have a big ol' island as proof. And on a much lesser case, moderators. Obviously it's not all people in power suddenly going "I'm evil now!" but the experiment seems pretty valid to me.
@jocosesonataFrom what I know, the experiment was supposed to show if people who were of neutral position are given a position with power over others (Guards) and would be bad or even cruel to those under them(Prisoners). Zimbardo has explicitly stated that he never told what the guards should do or behave like, but there are some cases disproving this, even in the movie that documented this experiment. So the experiment didn't work because it was manipulated as the guards were told to behave badly to the prisoners when it was suppose to see how the guards would behave if they were given the position without outside influence.
@lucasinazumai9873 Oh, I see. So it's tainted results. Not gonna lie... Kinda want someone to do the experiment again. *_Hear me out!_* Cause, on paper it's not the _most_ cruel thing ever, especially if they actually follow through with the original intent. Just 2 weeks of prison larping. No one is told or encouraged to act a certain way, they're just given their roles and left alone to be monitored. As far as experiments go, it has the most potential to just be a chill vacation. Even real prisons aren't as horrible as the worst ones, or as depicted in media. Some of them are relatively calm. Someone could be in there for fraud, or petty theft, strike up casual conversations with their guards. No one's gonna shank or beat someone senseless. And clearly, even with this dubious instance, they still put a stop to it early; so it's not even a "We're done when I say we're done" type of deal. So if there's a modern one, there could be better guardrails, or a safeword, "if at any point you feel it's too disturbing, say the safeword and we'll get you out immediately." Just saying... The concept is not the most morbid experiment. The execution was simply suspect.
@lucasinazumai9873 They weren't manipulated, one of the guards, I think it was the head guard or something, started behaving more cruelly because he thought that was what Philip zimbardo wanted to see, he also said in an interview afterwards that he was influenced by the kind of archetype that you see in Hollywood movies at the time where cops use reflective sunglasses and act very macho and hardheaded. It was his influence that then led all the other guards to start behaving the way they did.
You're honestly the most human Vtuber I've seen. You're honest, kind, and highly empathetic. These little talks in your videos where you focus on real issues are what set you apart from other content creators that focus on shock factor. Thank you for being you.
14:02 The question of science is not "why?" Is "why not?" And for some people, doing things for the name of science and the pursuit of knowledge is enough to dismiss any "why not?" Answers
@Koriyuma Why you gotta wait like a whole year nearly, just do it, the more you wait, the worse it would feel if she says no and also, why even wait, not like there's any reason not to (unless you do actually have a reason lol)
No need to spread fear. Visual Venture, and by extension you, and every single viewer is not gonna get in trouble. This is all public knowledge anyway. Besides, the CIA has much more important things to deal with than someone explaining history.
12:48 he did positive emotions at first, when visual venture first started talking about this experiment he even said that 19:57 that was after world war 2, couldn’t have happened
I will as someone who is legally prescribed Adderall because I suffer from such bad depression I require it to get out of bed in the mourning that theory comes from the fact that it makes people with depression better workers but although that is true it's the same with every single medicine you take for mental illness when prescribed properly but that's not as common because of how difficult it is for mentally ill people to receive proper treatment even to this day but as someone who used to be in an institution I can tell you it is possible
They can't pretend with AI even today. Because we can still examine PHYSICAL evidence. No AI today can fabricate PHYSICAL evidence out of thin air. All of it is digital.
Science is the pursuit of "knowledge", it is not the pursuit of "applied knowledge". There doesn't need to be a deep reason of "Oh, I want to do this in order to pursue this thing, or this other thing", sometimes a scientist ask themselves: "Huh... And why the fuck does this work?" and that's reason enough to investigate.
The general consensus for each and every one of these things is: When you give somebody a length of rope they will hang you with it. In other words: power corrupts.
36:37 i feel like this too sometimes but not with u-tube numbers, i feel like fans would be the most trustworthy to be freinds with, we don't care about numbers (or atleast i dont) we just love you Mari because you make us happy.
Back in middle school, my math teacher decided to do an experiment. She chose me and another student to be the teachers for a day and watch how we taught the rest of the class. I followed what I learned from her by watching her. My math teacher was strict and demeaning. So I did exactly that. I yelled at the students and blew a whistle sometimes cause for some reason she gave us whistles. However, the other student took her own route of what a teacher should be. That student was a lot more gentler and nicer. It wasn't until a few years later that my sister got her class as well. At that point, the math teacher was a completely changed person and had apologized and brought up the fact that she was not a great teacher before. Now, the school is closed.
I mean, for as _shocking_ as the Milgram Experiment went, at the very least no one was actually getting hurt. Just an actor who knows how to act. So there's that silver lining.
41:11 Kinda what chemical weapons were like initially in WW1... "Oh look, there's a colorful cloud drifting along the ground towards us, that's quaint..."
Remember, these are just the ones we know about. Some are probably sitting in an office desk rotting or are so deep in a government (could be literally any of them) classified section it will never see the light of day
24:25 I mean, in comparison to some of these other ones this one brought no actual lasting damage. All it did was show how easily humans can be manipulated into doing things once the perception of responsibility has been lost or watered-down. To me it shows a frankly terrifying truth of humanity. It also showed that there are however still people who no matter the pressure are uncompromising even when given this freedom from responibility. This is just my take though. Edit: This is in response to the one with the actor who faked being shocked.
MK Ultra never ended. It just has changed names a few times over the years and changing the methods or experiments. One I remember hearing was MK Naomi.
See the problem with the Stanford Prison Experiment is that Zimbardo _says_ that he didn't tell the students selected as guards to be cruel. But even in the movie that talked about it, he very clearly gives those same "guards" instruction on how to "handle" the ones selected to be inmates. That's kind of the thing that makes the Stanford Prison Experiment so bad. We don't know just how much instruction any of the guards were actually given. Is it possible that some people are more likely to be corrupted by power? Sure. But the experiment is so heavily flawed with how it was conducted that it doesn't really work trying to figure out what the conclusion was
40:24 there's a theory about SpongeBob and the rest of the fish being in the water next to those islands and thus being infected with the radiation. That's kinda backed up from small clips of explosions and the name of the town being bikini bottom similarly to the actual place bikini atoll
I've always personally thought they would do some testing on third world countries or more specifically the villages towns, and cities in third world countries
The one and only video you actually gave me to watch honestly I almost forgot Mari existed I haven't watched her for a long time , she was just a small entertainment excuse ( dopamine) stupid
" Oh he did great things, Terrible, but great"- Olivander, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. Basically knowledge itself is neither good, nor bad, it is just knowledge. How it is obtained, that can be good or bad. Experiment 4.1 was absolutely deplorable, but it was during the time of the cold war, and its information showed the long term effects of nuclear exposure, leading to treatments and cures. MK ultra was unbelievably horrible, but it showed that mind altering drugs cannot erase a person ( though it can make them nuts). Oh and they used LSD, not speed. That was a completely different CIA thing. Little Albert led to using association to do things like addiction cures, especially for non physical addiction. The Stanford Experiment and the shock one shows that good people can become absolute monsters in the right circumstances. The facial expression experiment helped profilers drop the pseudo sciences of expressionism. And personally I think that it was a shame that the Monster experiment wasn't published because of the guy's ego. The damage was already done, and that could have helped so many students by stopping the nun method of teaching children with stutters. Basically while I believe that each experiment was wrong, what was gained from it should be looked at as well.
What if their were advertisments for diseases and conditions? what would that look like? Would we just have catchy phrases like *ALZEIMERS, THE EXPIRIENCE YOU WON'T FORGET" or POLIO, IT'S SO GOOD YOU'LL BE GIVING IT A STANDING OVATION"*
7 :12 so now these days prisons are more strict with records and procedures due to many people asking the same questions as you do Mari, it is way more difficult to pull the whole ''i will use convicts to conduct human experiments against their will'' kinda deal. Not only that a lot of the political climate still considers prisoners as voters or citizens in the USA keeping safe or releasing early to guarantee votes, the applying of punishment on individuals that have been convicted guilty is always an area of discussion and attention of the American people and why the legal system always give them the chance to prove their innocence or not in court. i cant confirm or deny the subjects you are worry about happens in other countries and when a politician or a group wants an individual gone the last thing on their list is to send them to prison, too many witnesses and too time consuming.
Welcome to the stuff science and medicine don't want you to see. Honestly I wouldn't be shocked if this stuff is still going on someplace. They say he fell out of that hotel window but apparently the body had to break the glass first. Every time i see some kid that goes off and starts shooting schools i wonder if the feds have people online experimenting with troubled people. I wouldn't be surprised if parts of the military and government have tech that's at least 10 years ahead of what we see just like they did with stealth. I sympathize with Mari, i've always been a loner due to trust issues and expecting ulterior motives and it does get lonelier the older i get.
37:00 I might be a biased fan here but would reaching out to “The Boys” whom VR skits you’ve reacted to be a possibility? They seem like they’re not assholes, idk.
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The Stanford Prison Experiment not only had to be stopped early, When the experiment was looked back on in hindsight, it was revealed that it didn't even work in the first place.
Wait, in what way did it not work?
Like, did people test it again? Cause to me it just seems like a pretty cut and dry case: people in power do get weird with it.
I mean... we have a big ol' island as proof. And on a much lesser case, moderators. Obviously it's not all people in power suddenly going "I'm evil now!" but the experiment seems pretty valid to me.
@jocosesonataFrom what I know, the experiment was supposed to show if people who were of neutral position are given a position with power over others (Guards) and would be bad or even cruel to those under them(Prisoners). Zimbardo has explicitly stated that he never told what the guards should do or behave like, but there are some cases disproving this, even in the movie that documented this experiment.
So the experiment didn't work because it was manipulated as the guards were told to behave badly to the prisoners when it was suppose to see how the guards would behave if they were given the position without outside influence.
@lucasinazumai9873
Oh, I see. So it's tainted results.
Not gonna lie...
Kinda want someone to do the experiment again.
*_Hear me out!_*
Cause, on paper it's not the _most_ cruel thing ever, especially if they actually follow through with the original intent. Just 2 weeks of prison larping. No one is told or encouraged to act a certain way, they're just given their roles and left alone to be monitored.
As far as experiments go, it has the most potential to just be a chill vacation.
Even real prisons aren't as horrible as the worst ones, or as depicted in media. Some of them are relatively calm. Someone could be in there for fraud, or petty theft, strike up casual conversations with their guards. No one's gonna shank or beat someone senseless.
And clearly, even with this dubious instance, they still put a stop to it early; so it's not even a "We're done when I say we're done" type of deal. So if there's a modern one, there could be better guardrails, or a safeword, "if at any point you feel it's too disturbing, say the safeword and we'll get you out immediately."
Just saying... The concept is not the most morbid experiment. The execution was simply suspect.
@lucasinazumai9873 They weren't manipulated, one of the guards, I think it was the head guard or something, started behaving more cruelly because he thought that was what Philip zimbardo wanted to see, he also said in an interview afterwards that he was influenced by the kind of archetype that you see in Hollywood movies at the time where cops use reflective sunglasses and act very macho and hardheaded. It was his influence that then led all the other guards to start behaving the way they did.
I never expected you to watch something this dark, you’ve watched dark stuff before but wow.
You're honestly the most human Vtuber I've seen. You're honest, kind, and highly empathetic. These little talks in your videos where you focus on real issues are what set you apart from other content creators that focus on shock factor. Thank you for being you.
Most of these i learned about in my psychology class.
14:02 The question of science is not "why?" Is "why not?" And for some people, doing things for the name of science and the pursuit of knowledge is enough to dismiss any "why not?" Answers
This is why I don't trust the government
I actually freaked when I saw that third experiment mentioned. I learned about it back in psychology class in either high school or college.
294 days till I ask my crush out
@Koriyuma Why you gotta wait like a whole year nearly, just do it, the more you wait, the worse it would feel if she says no and also, why even wait, not like there's any reason not to (unless you do actually have a reason lol)
Goodluck
U gotta finish the journey🫡🫡🫡
Goodluck soldier.
@bridgettpilkington thanks commander
Thanks for this educational reaction it mate my day better
also those experiments are sick, its intresting and scarry what some people do
No need to spread fear. Visual Venture, and by extension you, and every single viewer is not gonna get in trouble. This is all public knowledge anyway. Besides, the CIA has much more important things to deal with than someone explaining history.
12:48 he did positive emotions at first, when visual venture first started talking about this experiment he even said that
19:57 that was after world war 2, couldn’t have happened
25:28 This experiment is ongoing and I am one of the lab rats. This is why I prefer speech in form of text than speaking.
18:50 Peer pressure is the cause of this.
I will as someone who is legally prescribed Adderall because I suffer from such bad depression I require it to get out of bed in the mourning that theory comes from the fact that it makes people with depression better workers but although that is true it's the same with every single medicine you take for mental illness when prescribed properly but that's not as common because of how difficult it is for mentally ill people to receive proper treatment even to this day but as someone who used to be in an institution I can tell you it is possible
Did you mean morning? Because “mourning” implies you’ve suffered a loss…
They can't pretend with AI even today. Because we can still examine PHYSICAL evidence. No AI today can fabricate PHYSICAL evidence out of thin air. All of it is digital.
It's only a matter of time before somebody recreates Frankenstein.
Science is the pursuit of "knowledge", it is not the pursuit of "applied knowledge". There doesn't need to be a deep reason of "Oh, I want to do this in order to pursue this thing, or this other thing", sometimes a scientist ask themselves: "Huh... And why the fuck does this work?" and that's reason enough to investigate.
39:21 as soon as i heard Marshall Islands, i checked what islands are in the country, and there you have it, Bikini Atoll
The general consensus for each and every one of these things is: When you give somebody a length of rope they will hang you with it. In other words: power corrupts.
4 bucks an hour ain't enough... 4 bucks every thirty minutes is only slightly better.
36:37 i feel like this too sometimes but not with u-tube numbers, i feel like fans would be the most trustworthy to be freinds with, we don't care about numbers (or atleast i dont) we just love you Mari because you make us happy.
30:56
"If being powerless is so terrible, then does having power makes you right?
-Lelouch Lamperouge
Interesting fact ; the unabomber, whitey Bulger and Charles Manson were all CIA test subjects.
Back in middle school, my math teacher decided to do an experiment. She chose me and another student to be the teachers for a day and watch how we taught the rest of the class. I followed what I learned from her by watching her. My math teacher was strict and demeaning. So I did exactly that. I yelled at the students and blew a whistle sometimes cause for some reason she gave us whistles. However, the other student took her own route of what a teacher should be. That student was a lot more gentler and nicer. It wasn't until a few years later that my sister got her class as well. At that point, the math teacher was a completely changed person and had apologized and brought up the fact that she was not a great teacher before. Now, the school is closed.
23:04 Hey, Mary Tudor... She shares a name with the historical 'Bloody Mary'
I mean, for as _shocking_ as the Milgram Experiment went, at the very least no one was actually getting hurt. Just an actor who knows how to act.
So there's that silver lining.
9:20 So, ADHD meds usually focus on releasing brain chemicals like dopamine and stuff like that. These chemicals help people focus.
@bowser100flame8 that's exactly why nicotine can also help with focus. I only use pouches so the only danger is just dependency which I don't have.
41:11 Kinda what chemical weapons were like initially in WW1... "Oh look, there's a colorful cloud drifting along the ground towards us, that's quaint..."
The shock experiments is interesting because nobody was actually injured
Remember, these are just the ones we know about. Some are probably sitting in an office desk rotting or are so deep in a government (could be literally any of them) classified section it will never see the light of day
Fun fact: The MKUltra project also caused Charles Manson and the Unabomber.
39:44 i mean we dont laugh at any 67 meme soooo
Man, I realised, that some people are being tortured while I complain about daily life things
I love visual venture. I'm subbed to both of you
Messing with a baby like that is evil.
Some of the stuff here reminds me of one of my credos: you can tell a lot about a person by how they treat people they don't have to be nice to.
24:25 I mean, in comparison to some of these other ones this one brought no actual lasting damage. All it did was show how easily humans can be manipulated into doing things once the perception of responsibility has been lost or watered-down. To me it shows a frankly terrifying truth of humanity. It also showed that there are however still people who no matter the pressure are uncompromising even when given this freedom from responibility. This is just my take though.
Edit: This is in response to the one with the actor who faked being shocked.
Speaking of AI for Mk Ultra, I imagine that a brain implant will complete what drugs failed to do.
Trigger the implant, AI based software kicks in.
Nice to see you getting the old model out for the last few videos.
33:43 Exactly what my dad and my younger sister have been doing to this day.
MK Ultra never ended. It just has changed names a few times over the years and changing the methods or experiments. One I remember hearing was MK Naomi.
See the problem with the Stanford Prison Experiment is that Zimbardo _says_ that he didn't tell the students selected as guards to be cruel. But even in the movie that talked about it, he very clearly gives those same "guards" instruction on how to "handle" the ones selected to be inmates. That's kind of the thing that makes the Stanford Prison Experiment so bad. We don't know just how much instruction any of the guards were actually given. Is it possible that some people are more likely to be corrupted by power? Sure. But the experiment is so heavily flawed with how it was conducted that it doesn't really work trying to figure out what the conclusion was
40:24 there's a theory about SpongeBob and the rest of the fish being in the water next to those islands and thus being infected with the radiation. That's kinda backed up from small clips of explosions and the name of the town being bikini bottom similarly to the actual place bikini atoll
You know what is sad? No CIA agents were arrested AND are STILL there. Edit: " Closed Doors", always seem to lead to awful outcomes.
I've always personally thought they would do some testing on third world countries or more specifically the villages towns, and cities in third world countries
The one and only video you actually gave me to watch honestly I almost forgot Mari existed I haven't watched her for a long time , she was just a small entertainment excuse ( dopamine) stupid
24:50 I ain’t gonna lie this shi happens to me 24 7 so many times
Adderall makes you sit still and do as told
" Oh he did great things, Terrible, but great"- Olivander, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone.
Basically knowledge itself is neither good, nor bad, it is just knowledge. How it is obtained, that can be good or bad. Experiment 4.1 was absolutely deplorable, but it was during the time of the cold war, and its information showed the long term effects of nuclear exposure, leading to treatments and cures. MK ultra was unbelievably horrible, but it showed that mind altering drugs cannot erase a person ( though it can make them nuts). Oh and they used LSD, not speed. That was a completely different CIA thing. Little Albert led to using association to do things like addiction cures, especially for non physical addiction. The Stanford Experiment and the shock one shows that good people can become absolute monsters in the right circumstances. The facial expression experiment helped profilers drop the pseudo sciences of expressionism. And personally I think that it was a shame that the Monster experiment wasn't published because of the guy's ego. The damage was already done, and that could have helped so many students by stopping the nun method of teaching children with stutters.
Basically while I believe that each experiment was wrong, what was gained from it should be looked at as well.
No sense letting the victims' suffering be in vain, even if the scientists should never have been allowed in a lab again.
I just started watching you and Im already addicted to your channel LOL
What if their were advertisments for diseases and conditions? what would that look like?
Would we just have catchy phrases like *ALZEIMERS, THE EXPIRIENCE YOU WON'T FORGET" or POLIO, IT'S SO GOOD YOU'LL BE GIVING IT A STANDING OVATION"*
i was hoping for that foil hat toggle lmao still good stuff you should look up some of the other stuff the gov did back in the day
Hello again, Mari. Ooooh, another reaction video. Evil experiments, yikes. Lol
I can’t even finish this video this kind of stuff always makes me sick
Feed prisoners uranium it has a lot of calories
I just ate a hamburger
I love your live streams
My dogs dying 😢
im swwy to hear that
Not the dawg 😭
7 :12 so now these days prisons are more strict with records and procedures due to many people asking the same questions as you do Mari, it is way more difficult to pull the whole ''i will use convicts to conduct human experiments against their will'' kinda deal. Not only that a lot of the political climate still considers prisoners as voters or citizens in the USA keeping safe or releasing early to guarantee votes, the applying of punishment on individuals that have been convicted guilty is always an area of discussion and attention of the American people and why the legal system always give them the chance to prove their innocence or not in court.
i cant confirm or deny the subjects you are worry about happens in other countries and when a politician or a group wants an individual gone the last thing on their list is to send them to prison, too many witnesses and too time consuming.
Yes Mari did a new vid :>
When I hear MK, I was thinking of Megaknight, sorry a Clash Royale player here.
Welcome to the stuff science and medicine don't want you to see. Honestly I wouldn't be shocked if this stuff is still going on someplace. They say he fell out of that hotel window but apparently the body had to break the glass first. Every time i see some kid that goes off and starts shooting schools i wonder if the feds have people online experimenting with troubled people. I wouldn't be surprised if parts of the military and government have tech that's at least 10 years ahead of what we see just like they did with stealth. I sympathize with Mari, i've always been a loner due to trust issues and expecting ulterior motives and it does get lonelier the older i get.
If people did this stuff to me, yes I would sue them or if they died the government, but I do not just want money, that will not erase what happened.
Died the government? What?
I ment if the person died i forgot the , 😅
Pretty good, Mari.
Does this video here talk about lobotomy because that another factor of history that the world did before that was abandoned and left behind too!
Is it bad that I quote "just a little bit better" everyday? 0:24 oh and iv heard of mk ultra it was crazy
37:00
I might be a biased fan here but would reaching out to “The Boys” whom VR skits you’ve reacted to be a possibility? They seem like they’re not assholes, idk.
Hi awesome video 👍❤️😀😍
Yooo wth are you watching gng
Mari, vvv collab before gta 6
Hi Mari
I ate a pizza
Hello, Mari ~ 👋😁
Can you react to “Chainsfr” please!
Fuck a little bit too late
Hiiiiii
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hey mari you should play dead by daylight or little nightmares
Hi mari
Hello!!
i wonder why the people comment this videos if Mari didn't see it... bruh. Maybe it's a bit fun post your thougths about this video. haha.
14:31...Oh god... ...This one is really bad.
First
9:05 adderal is just a brain frying stimulant
It's actually closely related to methamphetamine.
I wonder why Mari went back to her old model over her more recent one.
It's funny when a vtuber talks about moral. 😂
nope its only for concertraition. i wod now