Yeah Maxx C will never get hit here in the OCG. The Japanese guys mock combo deck players as "masterb8rs" in their local language, and majority probably don't want it to be hit.
It really does feel like the OCG side of things is using parts of the limit and semi-limit list, as some kind of 6-9 month watchlist to either move cards closer to being outright banned or move up cards from 0>3. Littleknight and Beatrice will likely be banned come the Oct list.
Gimmick Puppet of Strings, while I agree the combos they do is linear, Gimmick Puppets can also OTK reliably from 1 or 2 cards and unlike the ftk, it doesn't need 2 or more strings to do it, so I think the deck is still playable, but mainly as a OTK deck with lots of room for non-engine similar to Tenpai. To me, Strings to 1 is a good hit. Beatrice though... should've been banned straight up. All decks that use fiendsmith engine only play 1 beatrice so this hit is bad.
Hot Take: The reason why Snake Eyes was so busted was because it was created as a way to circumvent Ash Blossom. Ash Blossom warps game design. It's time for its giant forehead to go.
The most likely reason Beatrice and S:P were limited is OCG likes using the banlist as a way to signal that they have plans on banning cards later on. They usually do this more with newer cards as they'll get harsher backlash in OCG than TCG. They're less inclined to do it with older cards, although they might still do it.
@@joshuacedricfranco6928 She isn't broken on her own. Just really good. Her on-summon effect has a reasonable drawback. But there is the interaction with Masquerena which breaks her a little. To add merit to the IP ban, SP isn't the only target. Knightmare Unicorn and Underworld Goddess are the others you can do some dirty disruption to your opponent though Underworld Goddess needs more materials.
I love the DRs to 2, even though the state of the game right now they arent gonna do much in terms of meta play, but the rest of the banlist hits so many things... yet does very little.
All I want is for Konami to once in their life, make sense and do mayor bans. 1. Limit handtraps. 2. Massacre these decks like Snake Eyes and other decks like this. 3. Make it so that decks with actual limitations in their cards (Exosister, Rikka, etc.) are viable, instead of these decks that are build to go through multiple negates and handtraps. 4. Ban a lot of those generic extra deck monsters (think Verte, Zeus or S:P Little knight). I know it will never happen, but this is the only way to make Yugioh playable, and not go through the endless circle of power creep, building decks to bypass handtraps etc., lower class decks suffering due to overpowered decks using generic boss monsters etc.
IMO limiting extra deck cards doesn’t do anything. I know there were people playing little knight at 1 but I don’t think it will change much. Beatrice is also already a 1 of anyway.
I hope our come out soon what I want to see get hit is snake eye Tenpai field spell. Need to go least at two. Puppets for sure. I want to see some floodgates come back, bc some rogue decks Can only rely on shifter and floodgates stay in the game if any floodgate need to come back at least bring back that can only be one at 3
11:20 Tbf, Poplar is already played at 2, Bonfire is at 3 on the deck and let's be real, that's a RotA for pyro so it needs to be threated as one right now. Semilimit feels fair enough up, at least until Snake-eyes becomes rogue.
Cap do you not have a translate to English option for your web browser instead of guessing although your quite experienced in the game at the very least you can make it translate the names and info as what if a errata was done on this list how would you know what it does other then searching for it specifically
@@Efgand0894 no you only need to ban Flamberge and then Snake Eye is fair cause now they’re boss monster can’t revive them upon destruction the only decks that can defeat Flamberge specifically are decks that have banish removal like Mirrorjade but you have to run a branded engine for the mirrorjade and so few decks can use the Branded engine. You only need to ban Flamberge and then it’s fine.
S:P on her own isn’t much of an issue, but it’s annoying when used with I:P in going first strats, S:P could have made a really cool going second card, but was designed super poorly
Ash is not going to get hit because it just got an Ulti. So its very unlikely imo. Beatrice to 1, jokes .. should be banned everywhere. Well for Summon Limit and Skill Drain ( i think its going to 1 or banned even in TCG), you still have Summon Breaker and Powersink Stone. I think I:P gets banned over S:P, when that time comes. For TCG i would love to see the DRs at 2 and Glow-Up Bulb at 1. Plushfire got a hard OPT on its monster effect. Also why does Konami print a Temu version of Maxx C but doesnt ban Maxx C? I'm tired of seeing both Maxx C and Ash Blossom together in MD, one should go imo. For TCG i hope Snake-Eyes gets hit, Kash engine gets hit, Beatrice/Sanctifire/Calamity banned, Electrumite/SKSV/Glow-Up Bulb come back. I think Zoodiac should also get cards back. Since people want to argue about something thats gets banned from RC2 : I would guess I:P and Skill Drain + Crossout Designator to 1.
Still better than the TCG lists. At least OCG does actual hits to fire. TCG ignores the actual problem decks and does blind hipfire on generics hoping it will do something
@@darkglass3011 nah, it's legit too good to stay unbannned, but the problem is that tcg chose to wimp out and not hit proper snake eyes cards on top of it. had they did something like ban flamberge, limit ash, AND ban linkuriboh, then the problem would have been solved, instead, they banned pieces of nonengine, and left the whole core intact for no reason.
@@vla1ne And made the problem even worse considering there other decks that used the generic cards. Baronne is too good, but Savage was kinda falling out of favor outside Dragon Link because it demanded a link monster alongside a Synchro package, preferably a link 2 at least making so it often comes too late to negate stuff or forces predictable lineups.
@@N12015 Savage being another generic omni negate meant it would have just been the next monster to be top dog after baronne. Using links isn't really that big of an ask, it was just easier to make baronne, so it fell off. The issue really is that konami hit some of the big names, but chose not to follow through to hit some combination of ash, poplar, OSS, and -block dragon- flamberge.
Tachyon ftk. It searchable with seventh tachyon by revealing c101. The gameplan is basically summon numeron dragon with huge attack and then catapult tribute it for game.
Not now it isn't. It's balanced over something like Lavalval Chain because Rank 6 isn't as accessible. Curious dodged the ban for a long time due to being a Link 3 that needs 3 materials but it's the fact it's a Link monster that can do what it does that's the issue and it was extremely easy to make for any Deck that can facilitate the Danger engine. In the case of Beatrice, Bystials exist and they're a very splashable engine with mostly Level 6 monsters.
Personally I like Maxx C. I really hate the fact TCG banned it. But I've learned to adjust without it. Max C will always be a devils advocate card. You either like it or you don't. Sadly, modern Yu-Gi-Oh has made my appreciation for it's mere existence only grow more and more
Not gonna lie this list felt like a joke. Just like the last Tcg list Just further proof Konami doesn’t care anymore. Who the hell is playing catapult turtle in 2024?
@@vanguardRailgun924 seventh tachyon can search catapult turtle by revealing number c101 and then you can normal summon it, because that comboline doesnt require it to that point - then NS, tribute Numeron Dragon gg wp.
Also capg, bonfire getting limited cuz genex not snake eyes. Bonfire, gives u lvl 3 genex for ravenous draw 3, syn 10 genex. N fa, genex, or clear wing syn 7. And go plus 6
@@HapsterHap going second snake-eyes cant beat it, u ss rav, genex, n fa in def, if they remove genex u rav, then ss genex 2, n make 10 again cuz link, besides fact u know can have max 4 more handtraps
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The competitive scene notwithstanding, if you want an idea as to whats going to be hit next in the TCG, I'd take a look at Rarity Collection 2.
Bruh I'm just laughing at everyone coping that Maxx C was finally getting hit in the OCG 😂
It's never getting hit anyone who says otherwise (especially Hardleg) is coping and seething hard
@@soukenmarufwt5224 ik I was just laughing seeing everyone saying it was getting banned. Ocg will never ban Maxx C.
Yeah Maxx C will never get hit here in the OCG. The Japanese guys mock combo deck players as "masterb8rs" in their local language, and majority probably don't want it to be hit.
The only copium left is that they're waiting till after worlds to do it so they don't blow everything up right before 😅
Who was saying that? First time I'm hearing about it.
The ban list that actually tells you when the list is coming
Konami realized floodgates are bad yugioh after that board meeting last year. We've been seeing floodgate hits since then in either TCG or OCG.
better nate than lever
@@Jacktherippa84👀
They been freeing Floodgate monsters in the last TCG or OCG lists so doubt
@@mrharvy100 you have *way* more options for outing a winda than you do a summon limit
It really does feel like the OCG side of things is using parts of the limit and semi-limit list, as some kind of 6-9 month watchlist to either move cards closer to being outright banned or move up cards from 0>3. Littleknight and Beatrice will likely be banned come the Oct list.
Gimmick Puppet of Strings, while I agree the combos they do is linear, Gimmick Puppets can also OTK reliably from 1 or 2 cards and unlike the ftk, it doesn't need 2 or more strings to do it, so I think the deck is still playable, but mainly as a OTK deck with lots of room for non-engine similar to Tenpai. To me, Strings to 1 is a good hit.
Beatrice though... should've been banned straight up. All decks that use fiendsmith engine only play 1 beatrice so this hit is bad.
Hot Take: The reason why Snake Eyes was so busted was because it was created as a way to circumvent Ash Blossom. Ash Blossom warps game design. It's time for its giant forehead to go.
The most likely reason Beatrice and S:P were limited is OCG likes using the banlist as a way to signal that they have plans on banning cards later on.
They usually do this more with newer cards as they'll get harsher backlash in OCG than TCG. They're less inclined to do it with older cards, although they might still do it.
Has that reason been established already or we players just forgot?
In short, to avoid scummy tactics... Sadly I don't speak japanese.
I just knew when S:P Little Night was revealed that she was too broken to remain in the game. Will she get banned in the next list? We'll see.
@@joshuacedricfranco6928 She isn't broken on her own. Just really good. Her on-summon effect has a reasonable drawback. But there is the interaction with Masquerena which breaks her a little. To add merit to the IP ban, SP isn't the only target. Knightmare Unicorn and Underworld Goddess are the others you can do some dirty disruption to your opponent though Underworld Goddess needs more materials.
Pay attention to the OCG banlist because it will effect Master Duel later.
nah I play older tcg decks lol
@@vanesslifeygo Ocg was around longer than tcg ocg means original card game. And if you don't play master duel or play in the ocg then why comment.
to encourage you to play
@@vanesslifeygo
No thanks can't afford in real life I'll stick with Master Duel where everything can be obtained for free .
Master duel has a separate ban list from both the ocg and the tcg
format aside, catapult turtle is the 2nd card to be banned despite having an errata
I love the DRs to 2, even though the state of the game right now they arent gonna do much in terms of meta play, but the rest of the banlist hits so many things... yet does very little.
Not everything. They still haven't begun to hit Yugitubers with DMCA takedowns.
Why would they do that?
@@jhoneism I'm joking. It's a response to CapG saying they're going after everything.
Capg, was on channel way back in 2011, at 15 16, i found new ftk. Inzektor, morale boost, and performage.
It only possible, with lvl 3 pendulum pendulum search lvl 4 or lower pend
The Beatrice hit feels like when they put Calamities to 1 for some reason.
Just like a warning shot to say, sell them now, we’re banning it soon.
@@johnathanlemus5584 that's pretty pointless since everyone knows it will/should be banned.
@@bluegetsuga8396not really pointless this time since konami is experimenting team tournaments in CN and JP before applying it in whole OCG regions
Zues to 1 makes sense. I've had so many games involving Zues where my opponent summons multiples of him.
Glad to see glow up bulb back!
finally someone remembered time seal exists
TCG fears us using it with traptrick or something
Sangen summoning being a ogre target is the best part of this list
All I want is for Konami to once in their life, make sense and do mayor bans.
1. Limit handtraps.
2. Massacre these decks like Snake Eyes and other decks like this.
3. Make it so that decks with actual limitations in their cards (Exosister, Rikka, etc.) are viable, instead of these decks that are build to go through multiple negates and handtraps.
4. Ban a lot of those generic extra deck monsters (think Verte, Zeus or S:P Little knight).
I know it will never happen, but this is the only way to make Yugioh playable, and not go through the endless circle of power creep, building decks to bypass handtraps etc., lower class decks suffering due to overpowered decks using generic boss monsters etc.
Ban all effect monsters. Return to cave man Yu-Gi-Oh!
It's funny you should say that because Snake Eyes was obviously designed to Circumvent Ash Blossom. Ash Blossom needs to go.
@@darkglass3011 And then what? No, really what next? Ban Snake Eyes so the game is more fair? Set the game back to the DM era?
@@gmradio2436
I wasn't talking to you you triggered little caveman.
@@darkglass3011 I was being serous, after banning Ash, then what? Back to early Links? Back farther? At what point will the game be fair?
12:10
lmao TD was such an easy win at my last Regional. Deck is just powercrept. Big scary dragons now just feel like flailing wet noodles
I’m glad they chose to hit puppets early and not just wait because support came out. Hopefully we do the same but I doubt it.
They’re going after what?
Why do yugioh RUclipsrs keep lying to people?
Have some dignity.
I think it was MBT who did the video on the Catapult Turtle OTK
as far as i know, rescue ace was running 2 s:p in the ocg
This for once makes sense. It hurts lists who run pot of prosperity and extravagance, and means if the monster dies it's no longer an issue.
IMO limiting extra deck cards doesn’t do anything. I know there were people playing little knight at 1 but I don’t think it will change much. Beatrice is also already a 1 of anyway.
I hope our come out soon what I want to see get hit is snake eye Tenpai field spell. Need to go least at two. Puppets for sure. I want to see some floodgates come back, bc some rogue decks Can only rely on shifter and floodgates stay in the game if any floodgate need to come back at least bring back that can only be one at 3
11:20 Tbf, Poplar is already played at 2, Bonfire is at 3 on the deck and let's be real, that's a RotA for pyro so it needs to be threated as one right now. Semilimit feels fair enough up, at least until Snake-eyes becomes rogue.
I guess we gotta wait until after their competitive season ends before they even discuss Maxx C.
Cap do you not have a translate to English option for your web browser instead of guessing although your quite experienced in the game at the very least you can make it translate the names and info as what if a errata was done on this list how would you know what it does other then searching for it specifically
So after 8 years we are finally getting the rest of the performage card?
PEPE format really fucked up the OCG. And the TCG still has the hatred of pendulums thanks to PEPE.
I don't think this list doesn't anything if anything things are gonna get worse with 3 Colossus like why
Thunder Dragons are unplayable. This isn't Toss format anymore
@@soukenmarufwt5224yeah but Thunder Dragon Colussus is a mistake
@@Liliana_the_ghost_cat what's an actual mistake. Extremely biased combo players which is the majority of you
@@soukenmarufwt5224 no I mean Thunder Dragon Colussus litterally has the effect of the continuous trap card "Mistake".
@@soukenmarufwt5224Woosh
The way Snake Eye becomes fair is Ban Flamberge.
Ocg just made the deck an engine that deck just died for yall today
"fair"= "omg kill the deck"
SE is still around in OCG thanks to fiendsmith, poplar is another ban worthy card
@@Efgand0894 no you only need to ban Flamberge and then Snake Eye is fair cause now they’re boss monster can’t revive them upon destruction the only decks that can defeat Flamberge specifically are decks that have banish removal like Mirrorjade but you have to run a branded engine for the mirrorjade and so few decks can use the Branded engine. You only need to ban Flamberge and then it’s fine.
Does this ocg banlist also affect the ae only tournament?
Sorry I am new and confused
People complaining about Maxx C not being hit in the OCG have ZERO clue about what goes on in the OCG.
I hope tcg just goes mad to differentiate itself at the point.
I say it each time to. Supreme king starving venom to 1 though. Miss that card
Same. At 1 its fine
S:P on her own isn’t much of an issue, but it’s annoying when used with I:P in going first strats, S:P could have made a really cool going second card, but was designed super poorly
That's a pretty good OCG Ban List
They banned catapult turtle it’s not a “good” list it’s a meme list.
@@vanguardRailgun924 good point. I have no idea why they banned that card
@@animeknight99 tachyon cards enable a consistent ftk with it. Horus aswell from what i heard.
Yeah right lol, it's a almost borderline useless list
Ash to oneis the only relevant move i saw lol @matija5748
They can always just negate Beatrice with a hand trap which might have been what Konami was thinking
Ash is not going to get hit because it just got an Ulti. So its very unlikely imo.
Beatrice to 1, jokes .. should be banned everywhere.
Well for Summon Limit and Skill Drain ( i think its going to 1 or banned even in TCG), you still have Summon Breaker and Powersink Stone.
I think I:P gets banned over S:P, when that time comes.
For TCG i would love to see the DRs at 2 and Glow-Up Bulb at 1.
Plushfire got a hard OPT on its monster effect.
Also why does Konami print a Temu version of Maxx C but doesnt ban Maxx C? I'm tired of seeing both Maxx C and Ash Blossom together in MD, one should go imo.
For TCG i hope Snake-Eyes gets hit, Kash engine gets hit, Beatrice/Sanctifire/Calamity banned, Electrumite/SKSV/Glow-Up Bulb come back. I think Zoodiac should also get cards back.
Since people want to argue about something thats gets banned from RC2 : I would guess I:P and Skill Drain + Crossout Designator to 1.
My god I wish they would get limited at the least (I like the Ash Blossom artwork ❤)…..
Don't forget about Apollousa.
*Vader breathez heavy* wow... wat did I say??? Komoni hit JUST enough cardz in snake-eye d@ they NOW have space fa oil... *Vader breathez heavy*
Damn why is being locked into performages a bad thing, if that was added to the card, I wouldn't mind
honestly this list is booty bro snake eyes is still best deck in OCG
Still better than the TCG lists. At least OCG does actual hits to fire. TCG ignores the actual problem decks and does blind hipfire on generics hoping it will do something
@@mrharvy100
Linkuriboh died for nothing.
@@darkglass3011 nah, it's legit too good to stay unbannned, but the problem is that tcg chose to wimp out and not hit proper snake eyes cards on top of it. had they did something like ban flamberge, limit ash, AND ban linkuriboh, then the problem would have been solved, instead, they banned pieces of nonengine, and left the whole core intact for no reason.
@@vla1ne And made the problem even worse considering there other decks that used the generic cards. Baronne is too good, but Savage was kinda falling out of favor outside Dragon Link because it demanded a link monster alongside a Synchro package, preferably a link 2 at least making so it often comes too late to negate stuff or forces predictable lineups.
@@N12015 Savage being another generic omni negate meant it would have just been the next monster to be top dog after baronne. Using links isn't really that big of an ask, it was just easier to make baronne, so it fell off.
The issue really is that konami hit some of the big names, but chose not to follow through to hit some combination of ash, poplar, OSS, and -block dragon- flamberge.
Hot take. But I think tenpai is dead in the ocg.
It was pretty much dead on arrival here.
@@vanguardRailgun924 would you mind elaborating?
@@shadowcloud6841Maxx C probs
If Catapult Turtle now a soft once per turn then whst was the point having it banned?
Tachyon ftk. It searchable with seventh tachyon by revealing c101. The gameplan is basically summon numeron dragon with huge attack and then catapult tribute it for game.
Galaxy had a combo that got out a 16k Numeron dragon and turtled it for 8k damage lol
Ah yes...the ocg banlist... where nothing gets solved for the tcg...
That's the point of different formats
I need branded fusion and branded opening back at 3
GIVE. ME. MORE. TIDAL!!!!!
This just means konami is gonna make light and dark dragon rulers
2+ Colossus can dodge Imperm, that's about the only real difference.
Beatrice to 1 is bc of Burning Abyss, Cap!
Not now it isn't. It's balanced over something like Lavalval Chain because Rank 6 isn't as accessible. Curious dodged the ban for a long time due to being a Link 3 that needs 3 materials but it's the fact it's a Link monster that can do what it does that's the issue and it was extremely easy to make for any Deck that can facilitate the Danger engine. In the case of Beatrice, Bystials exist and they're a very splashable engine with mostly Level 6 monsters.
They’re going for everything…except for maxc
Keep coping.
OCG will never ban it.
Last time Maxx C was hit in the OCG was 6 years ago and that was one format where it was semi limited.
Then they'll go after Yugitubers they don't like. Starting with Cimo AKA the big Yugituber they blacklisted at one point.
@@soukenmarufwt5224 keep editing and sucking hahahaha
Argue with a wall.
Personally I like Maxx C. I really hate the fact TCG banned it. But I've learned to adjust without it. Max C will always be a devils advocate card. You either like it or you don't. Sadly, modern Yu-Gi-Oh has made my appreciation for it's mere existence only grow more and more
It is gp of strings there was a some what an ftk with it
News flash! Maxx C will be limited to 1 on the TCG xD
Not in rage it was in the animation chronicle
Unless the stupid TCG did a name change, in which case Idk what it is, that says SPYRAL Genius.
Not gonna lie this list felt like a joke.
Just like the last Tcg list
Just further proof Konami doesn’t care anymore.
Who the hell is playing catapult turtle in 2024?
The new tachyon cards enable a consistent ftk with catapult turtle. MKohl40 uploaded it a while ago.
@@kingfatihHow? What way do they have to summon catapult turtle?
@@vanguardRailgun924 seventh tachyon can search catapult turtle by revealing number c101 and then you can normal summon it, because that comboline doesnt require it to that point - then NS, tribute Numeron Dragon gg wp.
@@kingfatih How are you normal summoning it, it’s level 5.
@@vanguardRailgun924 you are tribute summoning it by tributing number 97 draglubion, after using numeron dragon's effect to gain ATK (ofc).
I love you Cap. You are my favorite yugituber but this title is clickbait
Welp at least i can actually buy sp little knight and use her for casual play with shitty decks :D
Also capg, bonfire getting limited cuz genex not snake eyes. Bonfire, gives u lvl 3 genex for ravenous draw 3, syn 10 genex. N fa, genex, or clear wing syn 7. And go plus 6
No.
@@HapsterHap it is also the only card in game generic that search any genex
@@HapsterHap going second snake-eyes cant beat it, u ss rav, genex, n fa in def, if they remove genex u rav, then ss genex 2, n make 10 again cuz link, besides fact u know can have max 4 more handtraps
@@HapsterHap it is plus 4, from 1 bonfire
@@HapsterHap in hand, not field
This list was mediocre, next one will probably be nuclear.
Yeah it is strings
My bday banlist lol
Free my boi maxx c for the tcg!
1st
You feel good about yourself? What did this comment do for you huh?
Unfunny memes
@@javiergonzalez3047I read this comment with Stewie Griffins voice in my head 😂