I apologize for this message as all of you do not fall into this category but it has to be said. Since many comments make it clear they didnt make it past the 30 second mark, I'd like to make it 100% crystal clear this is NOT intended to be a replica of the Dean Annihilator 10k dollar guitar. I clearly stated this is a replica of the 2009-2011 Oktober/October Annihilator run in the first few minutes. So no, i wasnt expecting to get a 10k dollar guitar. Guitar Center was selling a fake of a guitar that originally struggled to sell for 699 msrp a decade ago. Oktober eventually dropped the price down to low 400 dollars before bankruptcy. Enjoy the video
I bought a Mesa Boogie 2:100 power amp from GC once. I was excited about it and watched the ups driver bring it up to the porch. The sob drops it right on its face on a concrete porch takes a pic and scurries off. I already knew the face was destroyed but when i opened the box, I was gutted. The box had about 6" on each side of extra room, maybe 5 pieces of popcorn and a strip of paper. This tube amp had been floating around unsecured in a giant box from new York to Detroit. So i look at it, confirm the face is destroyed, the rear only had 2 power tubes and one was floating in the box with it and somehow survived. The 2:100 comes with 8x 6l6 tubes. GC denied they sent it to me like that and even said they tested it first. I was fuming at that point but ended up getting my money back after a few weeks. never bought anything used from them again. They're crooks!
I'm a guitar tech is San Antonio, TX. You wouldn't believe (or maybe you might) how many people call me to fix what GC screws up on their guitars. The entire company is a joke anymore. I very recently had to explain to a manager at my local GC what a guitar cable is. I wish I was making that up.
A second video will be released detailing another incident guitar center sold me a fake. And another instance where I witnessed a fake for sale. All the same guitar being faked and resold by guitar center
probably more than you'd think. you don't necessarily get a guitar expert when you sell something. they just check that the electronics work then look at what they can get for them
Bro give this dude some likes, doing the lords work over here lol fr thanks dude, I wouldn't buy that guitar if I did have the money, but putting these scam artists on blast is the right thing to do, and I mean guitar center as well as the crooks who made it
I am not surprised at all. You actually bought a guitar I returned. The silver Billie joe jr you unboxed was the one that was sent to me and I returned because of qc issues.
That's crazy. I will be releasing another video where guitar center once again sold me another fake a second time for 799 dollars. And I witnessed a third time they were selling a fake a month ago. It's unbelievable three separate occasions guitar center selling fakes of the same guitar within a year
@@churchofpunkz shits getting spicy. No joke I can send you pics of the one you got when I got it. I took a bunch because I was blown away. You can see the same serial number and the same issues. Not sure where I can send you the pics but I got them
Guitar Center does next to no work on listing their used items. Sometimes it can be to your advantage though. They incorrectly listed a 90s MIJ Jackson Concert Bass as a Jackson Spectra, a much cheaper current production bass. I got it for only $150. It wasn’t playable at all out of the box as the saddles were lowered all the way and the neck needed adjusted, but a $50 setup corrected everything. Sounds ferocious and in great condition.
It is against GC policy to buy in instruments without serial numbers. The problem is that individual managers and stores will take shortcuts. I worked at a store in Murrieta CA, and I feel we really tried to change the perception of what GC meant to people. We constantly had compliments about people driving hours just to go to our store to avoid San Bernardino, Riverside, etc… I don’t say this to brag, I say this because our team including myself really made the extra effort to help everyone in the store. Buying customer or not, it was an amazing environment with people that actually enjoyed being there. Then corporate laid me off in the 2021 layoffs. No reasoning in the email either.
I won't event buy strings from a Guitar Center. On another note, if anyone has an Oktober Prophet or False Prophet they'd sell, let me know! I was at one point talking with Oktober to be an endorsed artist but it was towards then end of their business and I opted to not follow through with the band I was joining that would have been noteworthy enough for such an endorsement. I really wanted a couple Prophets!
When I was 12 years old I found a advertised red made in mexico strat on they’re used section it was 300 bucks I bought it with my Christmas money a couple weeks later it came to my guitar center and I got there and they were checking it over they noticed something off, the guitar was paper thin! And they ended up realizing it was a squire with a fender neck, I was devastated, this guitar center was cool though they called the store and flipped out and sold me a brand new attic white fender strat for a little over the same price
There are guitars out there without serial numbers: Custom-made or vintage guitars Lower-end guitars Prototype or factory-reject products Employee models B-stock or factory second
Welcome to GetScammed Center! You should parody their logo with their guitar outline and the name above on a sticker. Hand them to people at the brick and mortar near you with a link to your video. LOL
My dad and uncle grew up with the owner of Oktober Guitars. I got to go to his shop a couple times and play a bunch of his guitars and I remember thinking this was the most uncomfortable guitar I had ever played(I was sitting down though). They got the high school band back together one day in 2010-2011 to jam out in our garage(I believe they used to jam there as kids) A video exists somewhere from 2010-2011 of him, me, and my dad playing Santeria by Sublime. I would love to find that video, I was probably 16 at the time. But I love seeing his guitars pop up in articles/videos every once in a while. I think he shut down in like 2016.
Ngl all the guitars at my local guitar center feel like fake guitars, it's pretty crazy the quality of stuff they're willing to receive too. They had some used MIM fender strat that had a random chunk missing out of the side of the fretboard where the side dots are so if you attempted a slide you'd cut your thumb off lmao and it had a custom pickguard and knobs so you can tell it wasn't some B stock. The guitar center fall off has been rough on them
Some differences you didn't mention that could help someone in the future. 1) the space of the pickup and the floyd rose. The real one has a space. The fakes are much closer together. 2) location of the knob. Using the Floyd of the real one for reference. The fakes are too far back 3) pickup location in respect to the arching C curves on each side. On the real one, the top of pickup is nearly (just a tad under) halfway of the arching curves on both sides of the guitar. The fakes are further back 4) If you look at the end of the neck where the cutoff is on the real one. The metal fret markers specifically. The strings going from E to e ,each one is positioned in a way to cut an equal amount of the metal fret marker off. On the fakes, the amount is random 5) the part of the guitar that meets the neck. If you look at it. On the fake ones, it goes up to the 2nd bat. On the real one, it only goes up to the 1st bat inlay 6) the large wings of the guitar. If you look on the real one. They go up on each side to about halfway of the Doyle inlay. On the fakes, they are much shorter and do not reach to the same spot. 7) On the fakes, they have silver screws for the plastic pickup covers/braces/brackets or whatever those things are called. The rectangle around the pickups, lol 8) The shape of where the neck meets the body on the back of the fake ones are way too pointy and traingular 9) The tuning pegs on the headstock on the fake are not aligned perfectly. The 2 on top are misaligned. 10) The grey plastic ring around the tuning pegs. (The part you turn with your thumb) is like double to triple the width on the fake. The real is much thinner 11+) There is so much more, lol.
when I was a kid, like 25 years ago GC was king. Great prices, selection and cust service. I stopped going there like 15 ish years ago. I bought a guitar that was shipped and it was unplayable. Now it's all poor stock and mediocre prices, it's a shame it's nowhere near what it once was.
Guitar Center re lists all their returns without care. I've seen many of my returns re listed at the local store by the time I get home from returning them. Including one very obvious defective Fender Rumble 100 amp. I returned it for being broken, demonstrated as such when I returned it and an hour later it was relisted. I also called GC corporate who acted surprised but we now know that's just how they do business.
A couple of years ago I was at my local GC & saw a cherry Gibson ES-335 on their used wall. I was in the market for a 335 at the time so I took a closer look at it. Before I even took it off the hook I knew it was fake. Headstock angle was much greater than it should be. Once I had it in hand it weighed next to nothing. Then I turned it over & it had a SCARF JOINT. The fact that someone at that GC has the authority to buy in used guitars but doesn’t know that Gibson doesn’t use scarf joints is mind boggling. They’re Gibson dealers for crying out loud. I took the guitar to the manager & pointed out the issues to him. He was extremely embarrassed & said he’d handle it. Never saw the guitar again but I don’t go into GC very often, maybe once every couple of months to get strings or cables. I would never recommend to anyone to buy used gear from them without putting hands on it first.
I saw when they were selling what I thought was the legit guitar even last year. LIke 9K+. Now, I love Misfits. The world is a better place because they have been here, but I would never have guessed their fretwork would have been worth a signature guitar at all, much less one that expensive. Props for that insane design, though. Not surprising to learn there's fakes out there, but yeah, GC should have been able to spot that the minute someone tried to trade it in. Maybe not the electronics details but no serial number? Doing a lookup is step number one, I would think, even if you got a drummer covering the counter while the guitarist is taking a leak.
Dude, they had TWO $169 Grote guitars for sale for $699 each! Marked down from $899! They're $169 new! All they had to do was Google Grote T style and it came up on Google immediately. Somehow, they valued them at $899 initially. It took me emailing them at corporate for 2 weeks before they were pulled. I emailed the respective stores at first, even to get details, and they refused to reply. It was a crap show. $170 guitars for $700 😂😂😂
It got to the point that I threatened to order 5 from Amazon so I could sell them as used to GC for $300/pop and make some money since they were giving away money for guitars they should have paid $75 for LOL.
sometimes it can be to your advantage. They priced a 2nd gen sire bass as a 1st gen and saved a few bucks. Hope the return policy covers this good luck.
I had a similar experience a few years back guitar center sold me a fake ltd kh-202,frets were all uneven logo wasn’t In the right spot the Floyd rose wasn’t even branded a Floyd rose. Never bought a guitar from guitar center since
Could be a bad employee swapped out a real one for a fake one he owned thinking he could get away with it. Meaning guitar center might have passed all the requirements and the swap took place afterwards. I could be wrong but as a businessman I know my business just like guitar center does. This wouldn't get past the test.
I bought a used bass online from GC.The guitar was severely damaged during shipping because there were barely any packing materials inside the box to protect it. I sent it back for a refund. I haven't spent a dime at GC since. They should have known that most carriers couldn't care less if they damage your property.
As a very amateur musician, this exact scenario was what I was worried about when I started seeing all these "I bought a custom ______ guitar from Ali Express" videos. I know stores like Guitar Center and other shady individuals will knowingly sell them at authentic prices, making it very discouraging to buy used guitars. Which in turn, will also discourage the beginner from buying a good used higher end guitar to learn.
This is a good reason to check the speakers in a used cab at guitar center. They dont check any of that stuf. Wind up with a mess with no celestions and some cheap speakers. My point being, no surprise they sold a wish/temu version thinking it was the real deal. 😂
Yeah, they also put a significantly higher quality Ibanez 6 string picture on the used korean made SR506 ad that I got a while back. But it has been a solid bass over the last decade.
Two months ago I bought my first GC used guitar. I knew I was taking a gamble because of similar stories to yours, but I was willing to take that bet. It's a specific 8-String that rarely comes up on the used market and usually new ones are back ordered. I didn't want a new one, so I've been checking out the used market for many months. Reverb has only sold 6 used ones in the last two years, so when I took a gander at GC for the hell of it after work one night I couldn't believe it. I bought it sight unseen aside from their potato cam pictures at 12:30am. I was lucky, there was no damage, but the two lowest string saddle posts had some slight stripping, so every new day I played, those two strings had to be re-tuned as the saddles kept moving towards the body. It took a few days to figure out what was going on, but I just ordered two new Hipshot saddles and it's GTG. (Side note, Hipshot takes forever to ship their parts.) I'll bet whoever had it before me was dealing with the same problem and couldn't figure it out. It's not just used guitars though. I bought a brand new Hagstrom Fantomen from AMS. It has an offset point on the headstock and they ship without a case in a double box. It took three returns before I got a fourth without a giant chip on the headstock point. On that fourth re-order, I specifically told them to check it, wrap it inside the inner box, add more padding on the headstock, and add filling to outside of the inner box so it wouldn't move and they complied.
Tip. Guitar Center has no idea what they are selling many times. Sometimes it can go in your favor as you can get some great deals because of their lake of knowledge.
I bought a used Arturia KeyStep 37 through their site or app last year. It had a very busted knob with damage all the way down into the pot. I returned it. They re-listed it without fixing anything. The Jackson SL4X that I bought this year had several issues including missing trem arm and very loose tone pot and no instructions about how to remove those knobs. I found out how to remove those knobs days later on RUclips. I returned it too. I live near the Kennesaw Guitar Center on Crater Lake.
if we are veering off of the norms, you do want to speak to a luthier directly or make one yourself. luthier banks on reputation carrying his/her/their name. a big retailer wants to find a balance between ripping you off and serving your needs to keep you not happy, but not angry enough to bother doing anything. this is what happens to companies veering towards a downhill marathon. the standards slip. yes. i think G.C. is about to crash during any of the years to come.
I received a bass from GC that was completely unplayable, the trussrod was rattling and the strings were almost a half inch off the fretboard while laying flat against the pickup if fretted past the 12th, the electronics werent working either due to a disconnected wire. When I left a review they asked for an email and then emailed to ask for a phone number because "we want to make it right". Never heard from them after that. After setting it up it plays really nicely but it was a wreck when it came in "play tested".
Any business working with the public gets screwed and in return may screw someone else. It is indeed shitty but a real problem as well. With every wharehouse from Amazon to Walmart opening their doors to "sellers" as well buckle up the counterfeit age is upon us.
Are these just vanity pieces? Doyle said these Oktober guitars were shit and he didn't even play them so I am just assuming these are wall hangers, sucks they are peddling counterfit goods though.
It's so wild to see a fake get sold on GC when the one next to me wouldn't take a vintage hondo bass I was just trying to get rid of because it didn't have a serial number. Like they should've refused it on that alone lol
They were selling a fake Gibson, I pointed it out to them. They kept selling it. I called Gibson and sent them photos and they got Guitar Center to remove the fake.
The same thing happend to me whem i got a dimebag southerm cross got ripped off house got broken into rencent i feel for you frustrstion i lost a few guiars but the one the hurt me the most was the dean dime bag rust my mom got it for me its gone cant affirsna other one and now they are not made will you help me get one please
I too was interested in the Oktober Doyle von Frankenstein Guitar back around 2010... but I didn't want to pay full price. And soon it was discontinued.... I also have bhad shady issues with G.C. and just some of their listings. Obvious mislabeled listings. I mean. If GUITAR is in your Company name.... You could at Least hire people who actually know Guitars... Now I know it's not all stores or employee's that are lacking. But. I've seen 8% - 12% of obvious flaws in their knowledge. And once I bought a Fender Squire Skull Showmaster . For the neck mostly. And the knockoff licenced Floyd Rose. Had a Short 28mm brass block (as I already had one and used it for those parts). I purchased it online. Then I received notice that they couldn't send it because the floating Trem was damaged .... I told them I didn't care about it. I wanted it for parts. I had bought it for $99.99 they eventually sent it and charged me only .99¢ for my troubles. Minus the trem
About 35 years ago I had a candy apple red B.C. Rich Beach (sorry, but the RUclips censors won't let me post the actual name of the guitar) knockoff made by Harmony guitars. Does anyone remember Harmony? They were a crappy cheap entry level guitar that you'd buy your 10 year old to see if he/she was even interested in learning to play, before you shelled out the money to buy them a real guitar. Now I will say it was about as top level as you could get in a Harmony guitar. I paid $200 brand new for it in 1984. It wasn't claiming to be an actual B.C. Rich. It had the perfect body shape of a Rich Beach, but didn't even have the right head stock shape a BC Rich would have with the tuners split three on top and three on the bottom. Nope, mine had all six tuners on the top side, and the tip of the head stock slightly curved to a sharp point. It was actually a lot cooler looking than an actual B.C. head stock, but obviously a knockoff. Now, to be perfectly honest, it was a pretty good guitar for the money, and I had it for years. I even played in several cover bands with it. Wish I could post photos here, because I have a photo of me playing a gig with the guitar back when I was 20 years old. I'm now 57. However, in the early 1990's I had my eye on a Japanese made Jackson Soloist, but I sure as hell didn't have Jackson soloist money. So being the honest upstanding citizen I was, I repainted my Harmony B.C. R.B. fake. I even carefully hand painted the B.C. Rich signature logo on the obviously incorrect head stock, and then clear coated the entire guitar so it appeared like it was done at the factory. I walked into Guitar Center in Chicago with the fake guitar in hand, and walked out with a brand new $1,500 Japanese made Jackson Soloist without paying a single penny out of pocket. I had the GC manager convinced I was trading them even up with a one of a kind BC Rich from B.C.'s custom shop. Hook Line and Sinker! It took me all of about 30 minutes to convince them to swap me even up. I'd like to apologize to the sucker to whom GC sold my old guitar. I don't know what they charged you for it, but I'm quite sure it was probably somewhere around $2,000. Oops! I hope you learned a valuable lesson. I know I did. I learned that Guitar Center managers are not only a bunch of crooks, but they're also often just as gullible as the people they're trying to scam. So keep that in mind when you're trying to make a deal with them. 🤣
Great work on exposing the fake. I hope they did the right thing.. They sold me a Schecter they listed in "Excellent" condition, but was far from it. The fretboard was covered in finger funk, needed a cleaning, oiling, frets polished, and all the hardware on the tremolo was red and rusty, one of the pot knobs was missing when I came to pick it up. It was ridiculous and none of that showed up in the photos. As a guy that does his own setups, the only criticism I have is that you complained about something every guitar owner should know how to do for themselves. Truss rod / action height adjustments. I've never run across a guitar I couldn't reasonably set up unless the fretboard was separating from the neck or clearly twisted from some sort of heat stress like it had been through a fire.
Honestly the neck was super comfortable. Very thin. Not at all like the originals. But I've held 3 different fakes and they all have widely varying neck sizes. I will be uploading a second video in the future where guitar center sold me another fake annihilator
I actually purchased one of these off eBay. It was actually really well made and plays great. I actually had a custom lefty order from Oktober guitars when they first announced these but never received it. So I was stoked when these started popping up on eBay. Not looking like dean is ever gonna really make one for customers and oktober guitars is long gone and never met Doyle’s quality.
I have an original run Oktober Annihilator (when the were still 'October' without the 'K'), its a shame there are such crappy knock offs out there, I was hoping Dean would release a better quality import line but there really isn't as much demand for this guitar (and this is coming from someone who owns one!). Great video, I heard about how crappy Guitar Centre could be but I really didn't think they would be this shady!
From working at guitar center I can easily say half the people they hire don’t care about the job or doing a good job you’d be surprised how many fakes I’ve seen bought in over my short time working there
As a former GC employee I must say. Leave it up to Guitar Center to sell you junk! I'm surprised they are still in business 👈🤯 Everything is overpriced...!!!
Last November, Guitar Center sold me a smashed up Gretsch. They advertised it as mint, charged me, and even created a shipping label. Then a few days later they called me to tell me it was smashed and if id like a discount (which i declined). After I cancelled the order, I noticed that they kept the guitar listed as mint presumably to do the same thing to someone else :(
call the better business beuro or the attorney general and report guitar center for selling counterfeit guitars as real ones. maybe then guitar center will take you seriously. also make sure to record all conversations when you have them.
To Hell with these selfish corporations who could care less about their own customers. I work for one and it's called Extra Space Storage but that's beside the point. I'm just glad my Epiphone SG that I got from GC has a serial number
I had acquired a Guitar Center store card about 3 -4 years ago but terminated my account about 1 year later because I never purchased anything from them. After watching numerous videos about Guitar Center, it looks like I made a wise decision without even knowing it.
Twice I've come into GC with a few grand looking to spend and no one really addressed me. Even after telling them what I was looking to spend. They just stood there chatting. They also spent over a month with my guitar to be setup and new pups installed. Took a whole month to call me. Didn't even ask about action or what tuning I was looking for. Just "your guitar is done". I've given these guys multiple opportunities. They charged me twice for an order. Then when it got reversed, a day later the extra charge happened again. I had to do another reversal and remove my card on file. One more reason Sweetwater is the best. Just wish they had more locations.
There's a slim possibility it's not a fake...oktober guitars were so difficult to deal with when I tried to order a custom bass (want to say around 2002???) Found multiple stories of people chasing deposits left for materials after 6 months of no contact, shoddy work when items did arrive. Seems a shame as some of the designs were cool!
Hey there...I'm the original owner of Oktober Guitars. Not long after we stopped making the Annihilator line, the Chinese knockoffs started popping up all over the internet. Alibaba, DH Gate, Ebay etc etc. A few times people have reached out to me to ask if one was a fake, because some of the knockoffs had the Oktober name on them. It's very easy to tell a "real" Oktober model from a knockoff: Look at the truss rod cover. It should be in a point, mimicking the headstock. That's the ONLY TR cover we did. Look at the neck heel. Early models had a rounded heel, later models had a very deep recess that Doyle requested. Check the hardware: We didn't use any "Floyd Rose Licensed" knockoffs. It should have a Floyd Rose Special. Look at the end of the fretboard. They should be noticeably curved, not a straight line like in the video. Look at the headstock: It should curve in on both sides, not just come to a straight point. On a side note, we never did sell them for $400 "before we went bankrupt". Surprisingly to everyone, the Annihilators, while super cool, were not big sellers, so after our contract with Doyle was up, we didn't make any more. Eventually we got tired of the frivolous lawsuits coming once a week from "The Big G" and what was once the greatest job ever became the biggest headache ever, so I took a buyout and walked away. ;-) Hope this info helps someone else to be able to spot a real Oktober from a Chinese knock-off. They were VERY well made guitars, and there were not that many made...under 200 probably. They're rare.
I grew up in Maryland Like a couple of hours from the Oktoberfest warehouse I remember the XP model they had I ended up finding one from a guy on Craigslist about 4 hours away It was a great guitar except whoever built it glued the neck on crooked and the treble strings were almost off the end of the fretboard Some QC problems but it was a great guitar Tbh wish I kept it An explorer with a Floyd is sick
I’ve never had a bad experience with guitar center, but I also stand by the fact that ordering guitars or any instrument online is a bad idea. I’ll order an amp or cable but never a guitar or bass. I have had a bad experience with Sam ash though, they tried to give me like $45 for a mint condition affinity p-bass. And the guy tried telling me they’re $200 new, but there was one like 20 feet away that was labeled $280. Idk what he was yapping about lol. Guitar center have me either $140 cash for the bass and an old amp I had, or a trade, and I got a gsr200 with Seymour Duncan’s and upgraded tuners and a set of strings for the trade, the bass pretty much just has a chip in between the pickups, and a somewhat shotty soldering job on the upgraded pickups, which I can fix if there’s a problem further down the road.
Guitar Center has been absolutely atrocious recently. An amp I bought got busted in shipping. I returned it and the very next day I saw it listed on the floor. I thought "oh. maybe they found out was wrong with it!" Nope, still busted. Edit: I just looked it up and they listed it online. I'm going there today and if it's still busted they're going to get an earful.
GC used to be better. When I worked there. The guitar guys knew everything. Now they’re all a bunch of people who know they have to sell guitars. I miss the old days. You could almost build a guitar back then. Yeah man. I shop at the local spots or Sam ash in town. And sweetwater online. Yeah. You got to crusade against this crap. Nice video. Thanks!
Thank You Sincerely! I just bought a Carvin and ugh….. what a nightmare. I have to go in and fight with them now. Too much bull going on. Shall I add they are also Musicians Friend
I noticed also that on the fake, the upper and lower cutaways/horns are symmetrical. The real one has a much deeper cutaway on the lower horn. If people are going to fake guitars, they should at least have a SEMI-good eye for detail. Those doods get an F on both the details and ethics of guitar making.
I stopped buying new gear from them. I bought a new MPC One just to find it was used. Even had a used sticker on the bottom of the unit. Bought a higher end midi controller with a similar story. Nearly $1k of gear. They took care of me but it should have never happened in the first place. They also have a $75 used Arturia MineLab listed as a used Arturia Microfreak at my local store. I used to have friends work for them that all left due to issues with GC management. Seems anyone left just genuinely doesn’t care about the job to perform better quality control.
I have been taking guitar lessons and playing for only a little over one year and I would never buy a guitar I could touch, feel and play for at least 10 minutes.
The fakes are definitely low quality. I will be doing a video on a fake one of my friends gifted to me. The one he got struggles to stay in tune at all. Prices have since dropped on fakes. You can now buy them for under 200 bucks on aliexpress Last I checked
I have so many questions. Was this guitar sold by Guitar Center or do they have a marketplace where third parties can sell things? Since this was used I'm guessing whoever it was at guitar center who bought it didn't know any better. I can't really blame them since I think most people probably wouldn't know the difference. Then there's the question of why these are in any kind of demand; from everything I've heard, they aren't very good and even Doyle said he didn't like them. I find it bizarre that anyone would bother to counterfeit a signature guitar from an artist with a niche following and where the artist publicly put it down.
I apologize for this message as all of you do not fall into this category but it has to be said. Since many comments make it clear they didnt make it past the 30 second mark, I'd like to make it 100% crystal clear this is NOT intended to be a replica of the Dean Annihilator 10k dollar guitar. I clearly stated this is a replica of the 2009-2011 Oktober/October Annihilator run in the first few minutes. So no, i wasnt expecting to get a 10k dollar guitar. Guitar Center was selling a fake of a guitar that originally struggled to sell for 699 msrp a decade ago. Oktober eventually dropped the price down to low 400 dollars before bankruptcy. Enjoy the video
Former GC employee here. It’s the Walmart of music shops, one step up from a pawn shop. Set expectations accordingly.
I bought a Mesa Boogie 2:100 power amp from GC once. I was excited about it and watched the ups driver bring it up to the porch. The sob drops it right on its face on a concrete porch takes a pic and scurries off. I already knew the face was destroyed but when i opened the box, I was gutted. The box had about 6" on each side of extra room, maybe 5 pieces of popcorn and a strip of paper. This tube amp had been floating around unsecured in a giant box from new York to Detroit. So i look at it, confirm the face is destroyed, the rear only had 2 power tubes and one was floating in the box with it and somehow survived. The 2:100 comes with 8x 6l6 tubes. GC denied they sent it to me like that and even said they tested it first. I was fuming at that point but ended up getting my money back after a few weeks. never bought anything used from them again. They're crooks!
I can’t believe there’s a market for knock offs of that ugly monstrosity
I'm just happy to know there are still Misfits fans out there.
I'm a guitar tech is San Antonio, TX. You wouldn't believe (or maybe you might) how many people call me to fix what GC screws up on their guitars. The entire company is a joke anymore. I very recently had to explain to a manager at my local GC what a guitar cable is. I wish I was making that up.
That tells me they knew and were hoping no one caught it.
Wow, that's crazy. What an exposé. I wonder how many counterfeits guitar center has sold unwitting customers on the past 🤔
A second video will be released detailing another incident guitar center sold me a fake. And another instance where I witnessed a fake for sale. All the same guitar being faked and resold by guitar center
@@churchofpunkzask guitar center to sponsor it😉
probably more than you'd think. you don't necessarily get a guitar expert when you sell something. they just check that the electronics work then look at what they can get for them
Bro give this dude some likes, doing the lords work over here lol fr thanks dude, I wouldn't buy that guitar if I did have the money, but putting these scam artists on blast is the right thing to do, and I mean guitar center as well as the crooks who made it
I am not surprised at all. You actually bought a guitar I returned. The silver Billie joe jr you unboxed was the one that was sent to me and I returned because of qc issues.
That's crazy. I will be releasing another video where guitar center once again sold me another fake a second time for 799 dollars. And I witnessed a third time they were selling a fake a month ago. It's unbelievable three separate occasions guitar center selling fakes of the same guitar within a year
@@churchofpunkz shits getting spicy. No joke I can send you pics of the one you got when I got it. I took a bunch because I was blown away. You can see the same serial number and the same issues. Not sure where I can send you the pics but I got them
All good I believe you
@@churchofpunkz did you end up keeping it? The scraps on the lower horn, that really blew me away.
No I returned it
They do that all the time!
I bought a stolen one, and I discovered it when looking into its measurements and year.
Guitar Center does next to no work on listing their used items. Sometimes it can be to your advantage though.
They incorrectly listed a 90s MIJ Jackson Concert Bass as a Jackson Spectra, a much cheaper current production bass. I got it for only $150. It wasn’t playable at all out of the box as the saddles were lowered all the way and the neck needed adjusted, but a $50 setup corrected everything. Sounds ferocious and in great condition.
It is against GC policy to buy in instruments without serial numbers. The problem is that individual managers and stores will take shortcuts. I worked at a store in Murrieta CA, and I feel we really tried to change the perception of what GC meant to people. We constantly had compliments about people driving hours just to go to our store to avoid San Bernardino, Riverside, etc…
I don’t say this to brag, I say this because our team including myself really made the extra effort to help everyone in the store. Buying customer or not, it was an amazing environment with people that actually enjoyed being there.
Then corporate laid me off in the 2021 layoffs. No reasoning in the email either.
Good on you for going to such lengths. You had no obligation to do so, but did anyone. Shows a lot of integrity.
I won't event buy strings from a Guitar Center.
On another note, if anyone has an Oktober Prophet or False Prophet they'd sell, let me know! I was at one point talking with Oktober to be an endorsed artist but it was towards then end of their business and I opted to not follow through with the band I was joining that would have been noteworthy enough for such an endorsement. I really wanted a couple Prophets!
When I was 12 years old I found a advertised red made in mexico strat on they’re used section it was 300 bucks I bought it with my Christmas money a couple weeks later it came to my guitar center and I got there and they were checking it over they noticed something off, the guitar was paper thin! And they ended up realizing it was a squire with a fender neck, I was devastated, this guitar center was cool though they called the store and flipped out and sold me a brand new attic white fender strat for a little over the same price
There are guitars out there without serial numbers:
Custom-made or vintage guitars
Lower-end guitars
Prototype or factory-reject products
Employee models
B-stock or factory second
Welcome to GetScammed Center!
You should parody their logo with their guitar outline and the name above on a sticker. Hand them to people at the brick and mortar near you with a link to your video. LOL
My dad and uncle grew up with the owner of Oktober Guitars. I got to go to his shop a couple times and play a bunch of his guitars and I remember thinking this was the most uncomfortable guitar I had ever played(I was sitting down though). They got the high school band back together one day in 2010-2011 to jam out in our garage(I believe they used to jam there as kids) A video exists somewhere from 2010-2011 of him, me, and my dad playing Santeria by Sublime. I would love to find that video, I was probably 16 at the time. But I love seeing his guitars pop up in articles/videos every once in a while. I think he shut down in like 2016.
Ngl all the guitars at my local guitar center feel like fake guitars, it's pretty crazy the quality of stuff they're willing to receive too. They had some used MIM fender strat that had a random chunk missing out of the side of the fretboard where the side dots are so if you attempted a slide you'd cut your thumb off lmao and it had a custom pickguard and knobs so you can tell it wasn't some B stock. The guitar center fall off has been rough on them
Some differences you didn't mention that could help someone in the future.
1) the space of the pickup and the floyd rose. The real one has a space. The fakes are much closer together.
2) location of the knob. Using the Floyd of the real one for reference. The fakes are too far back
3) pickup location in respect to the arching C curves on each side. On the real one, the top of pickup is nearly (just a tad under) halfway of the arching curves on both sides of the guitar. The fakes are further back
4) If you look at the end of the neck where the cutoff is on the real one. The metal fret markers specifically. The strings going from E to e ,each one is positioned in a way to cut an equal amount of the metal fret marker off. On the fakes, the amount is random
5) the part of the guitar that meets the neck. If you look at it. On the fake ones, it goes up to the 2nd bat. On the real one, it only goes up to the 1st bat inlay
6) the large wings of the guitar. If you look on the real one. They go up on each side to about halfway of the Doyle inlay. On the fakes, they are much shorter and do not reach to the same spot.
7) On the fakes, they have silver screws for the plastic pickup covers/braces/brackets or whatever those things are called. The rectangle around the pickups, lol
8) The shape of where the neck meets the body on the back of the fake ones are way too pointy and traingular
9) The tuning pegs on the headstock on the fake are not aligned perfectly. The 2 on top are misaligned.
10) The grey plastic ring around the tuning pegs. (The part you turn with your thumb) is like double to triple the width on the fake. The real is much thinner
11+) There is so much more, lol.
You have got to go to the house of guitars in Rochester New York if you ever get around this area it will blow your mind
when I was a kid, like 25 years ago GC was king. Great prices, selection and cust service. I stopped going there like 15 ish years ago. I bought a guitar that was shipped and it was unplayable. Now it's all poor stock and mediocre prices, it's a shame it's nowhere near what it once was.
Guitar Center re lists all their returns without care. I've seen many of my returns re listed at the local store by the time I get home from returning them. Including one very obvious defective Fender Rumble 100 amp. I returned it for being broken, demonstrated as such when I returned it and an hour later it was relisted. I also called GC corporate who acted surprised but we now know that's just how they do business.
A couple of years ago I was at my local GC & saw a cherry Gibson ES-335 on their used wall. I was in the market for a 335 at the time so I took a closer look at it. Before I even took it off the hook I knew it was fake. Headstock angle was much greater than it should be. Once I had it in hand it weighed next to nothing. Then I turned it over & it had a SCARF JOINT.
The fact that someone at that GC has the authority to buy in used guitars but doesn’t know that Gibson doesn’t use scarf joints is mind boggling. They’re Gibson dealers for crying out loud. I took the guitar to the manager & pointed out the issues to him. He was extremely embarrassed & said he’d handle it. Never saw the guitar again but I don’t go into GC very often, maybe once every couple of months to get strings or cables. I would never recommend to anyone to buy used gear from them without putting hands on it first.
I saw when they were selling what I thought was the legit guitar even last year. LIke 9K+. Now, I love Misfits. The world is a better place because they have been here, but I would never have guessed their fretwork would have been worth a signature guitar at all, much less one that expensive. Props for that insane design, though. Not surprising to learn there's fakes out there, but yeah, GC should have been able to spot that the minute someone tried to trade it in. Maybe not the electronics details but no serial number? Doing a lookup is step number one, I would think, even if you got a drummer covering the counter while the guitarist is taking a leak.
If I was A manager at GC... I would say. Keep the guitar, and give you a full refund.
That's crazy they would sell knowing it's a fake wtf
Dude, they had TWO $169 Grote guitars for sale for $699 each! Marked down from $899!
They're $169 new! All they had to do was Google Grote T style and it came up on Google immediately. Somehow, they valued them at $899 initially.
It took me emailing them at corporate for 2 weeks before they were pulled. I emailed the respective stores at first, even to get details, and they refused to reply. It was a crap show. $170 guitars for $700 😂😂😂
It got to the point that I threatened to order 5 from Amazon so I could sell them as used to GC for $300/pop and make some money since they were giving away money for guitars they should have paid $75 for LOL.
The difference in the neck carve is huge as well.
First red flag should've been that it doesn't have a zombie skin guitar case
Another thing about guitar center that’s bad is they are very hit or miss on a proper setup.
I see that exact guitar for sale on eBay all the time, from Chinese “custom shops.”
sometimes it can be to your advantage. They priced a 2nd gen sire bass as a 1st gen and saved a few bucks. Hope the return policy covers this good luck.
Thanks for the heads up on Guitar Center.👍🤘
GC sales many fakes .. mostly high end Gibsons .. and with the Gibsons high end .. they HAVE to know
I had a similar experience a few years back guitar center sold me a fake ltd kh-202,frets were all uneven logo wasn’t In the right spot the Floyd rose wasn’t even branded a Floyd rose. Never bought a guitar from guitar center since
Could be a bad employee swapped out a real one for a fake one he owned thinking he could get away with it. Meaning guitar center might have passed all the requirements and the swap took place afterwards.
I could be wrong but as a businessman I know my business just like guitar center does. This wouldn't get past the test.
the music in the background was going perfectly with my jazz. also beautiful guitar, sucks it was a dupe :/
I bought a used bass online from GC.The guitar was severely damaged during shipping because there were barely any packing materials inside the box to protect it. I sent it back for a refund. I haven't spent a dime at GC since. They should have known that most carriers couldn't care less if they damage your property.
As a very amateur musician, this exact scenario was what I was worried about when I started seeing all these "I bought a custom ______ guitar from Ali Express" videos. I know stores like Guitar Center and other shady individuals will knowingly sell them at authentic prices, making it very discouraging to buy used guitars. Which in turn, will also discourage the beginner from buying a good used higher end guitar to learn.
That coffin shaped case is pretty cool.
This is a good reason to check the speakers in a used cab at guitar center. They dont check any of that stuf. Wind up with a mess with no celestions and some cheap speakers. My point being, no surprise they sold a wish/temu version thinking it was the real deal. 😂
I bet you anything the kid who sold this monstrosity to gc told them it was a copy and gc gave them 50 bucks for it 😂😂😂
Yeah, they also put a significantly higher quality Ibanez 6 string picture on the used korean made SR506 ad that I got a while back. But it has been a solid bass over the last decade.
Damn shame you can't trust people any more
Two months ago I bought my first GC used guitar. I knew I was taking a gamble because of similar stories to yours, but I was willing to take that bet. It's a specific 8-String that rarely comes up on the used market and usually new ones are back ordered. I didn't want a new one, so I've been checking out the used market for many months. Reverb has only sold 6 used ones in the last two years, so when I took a gander at GC for the hell of it after work one night I couldn't believe it. I bought it sight unseen aside from their potato cam pictures at 12:30am. I was lucky, there was no damage, but the two lowest string saddle posts had some slight stripping, so every new day I played, those two strings had to be re-tuned as the saddles kept moving towards the body. It took a few days to figure out what was going on, but I just ordered two new Hipshot saddles and it's GTG. (Side note, Hipshot takes forever to ship their parts.) I'll bet whoever had it before me was dealing with the same problem and couldn't figure it out.
It's not just used guitars though. I bought a brand new Hagstrom Fantomen from AMS. It has an offset point on the headstock and they ship without a case in a double box. It took three returns before I got a fourth without a giant chip on the headstock point. On that fourth re-order, I specifically told them to check it, wrap it inside the inner box, add more padding on the headstock, and add filling to outside of the inner box so it wouldn't move and they complied.
Tip. Guitar Center has no idea what they are selling many times. Sometimes it can go in your favor as you can get some great deals because of their lake of knowledge.
Who down voted this? WTF? Great Vid, GC employees be trolling the thumbs down button LMFAO
Thing looks like it weighs a ton
I bought a used Arturia KeyStep 37 through their site or app last year. It had a very busted knob with damage all the way down into the pot. I returned it. They re-listed it without fixing anything. The Jackson SL4X that I bought this year had several issues including missing trem arm and very loose tone pot and no instructions about how to remove those knobs. I found out how to remove those knobs days later on RUclips. I returned it too. I live near the Kennesaw Guitar Center on Crater Lake.
Wait you’re talking about the Allentown GC? They sold a former band mate of mine a fake Washburn a few years back too
this is SAD = I always wanted one of these = looks like I'll have to build it myself as usual
if we are veering off of the norms, you do want to speak to a luthier directly or make one yourself. luthier banks on reputation carrying his/her/their name. a big retailer wants to find a balance between ripping you off and serving your needs to keep you not happy, but not angry enough to bother doing anything.
this is what happens to companies veering towards a downhill marathon. the standards slip.
yes. i think G.C. is about to crash during any of the years to come.
Well, that's what Doyle did.
Also, the fake doesn't have a volute at the headstock
I received a bass from GC that was completely unplayable, the trussrod was rattling and the strings were almost a half inch off the fretboard while laying flat against the pickup if fretted past the 12th, the electronics werent working either due to a disconnected wire. When I left a review they asked for an email and then emailed to ask for a phone number because "we want to make it right". Never heard from them after that. After setting it up it plays really nicely but it was a wreck when it came in "play tested".
Any business working with the public gets screwed and in return may screw someone else. It is indeed shitty but a real problem as well. With every wharehouse from Amazon to Walmart opening their doors to "sellers" as well buckle up the counterfeit age is upon us.
Are these just vanity pieces? Doyle said these Oktober guitars were shit and he didn't even play them so I am just assuming these are wall hangers, sucks they are peddling counterfit goods though.
It's so wild to see a fake get sold on GC when the one next to me wouldn't take a vintage hondo bass I was just trying to get rid of because it didn't have a serial number. Like they should've refused it on that alone lol
You're really out here telling everyone what literally everyone already knows about Guitar Center.
They were selling a fake Gibson, I pointed it out to them. They kept selling it. I called Gibson and sent them photos and they got Guitar Center to remove the fake.
The same thing happend to me whem i got a dimebag southerm cross got ripped off house got broken into rencent i feel for you frustrstion i lost a few guiars but the one the hurt me the most was the dean dime bag rust my mom got it for me its gone cant affirsna other one and now they are not made will you help me get one please
I too was interested in the Oktober Doyle von Frankenstein Guitar back around 2010... but I didn't want to pay full price. And soon it was discontinued....
I also have bhad shady issues with G.C. and just some of their listings. Obvious mislabeled listings. I mean. If GUITAR is in your Company name.... You could at Least hire people who actually know Guitars... Now I know it's not all stores or employee's that are lacking. But. I've seen 8% - 12% of obvious flaws in their knowledge. And once I bought a Fender Squire Skull Showmaster . For the neck mostly. And the knockoff licenced Floyd Rose. Had a Short 28mm brass block (as I already had one and used it for those parts). I purchased it online. Then I received notice that they couldn't send it because the floating Trem was damaged .... I told them I didn't care about it. I wanted it for parts. I had bought it for $99.99 they eventually sent it and charged me only .99¢ for my troubles. Minus the trem
About 35 years ago I had a candy apple red B.C. Rich Beach (sorry, but the RUclips censors won't let me post the actual name of the guitar) knockoff made by Harmony guitars. Does anyone remember Harmony? They were a crappy cheap entry level guitar that you'd buy your 10 year old to see if he/she was even interested in learning to play, before you shelled out the money to buy them a real guitar. Now I will say it was about as top level as you could get in a Harmony guitar. I paid $200 brand new for it in 1984. It wasn't claiming to be an actual B.C. Rich. It had the perfect body shape of a Rich Beach, but didn't even have the right head stock shape a BC Rich would have with the tuners split three on top and three on the bottom. Nope, mine had all six tuners on the top side, and the tip of the head stock slightly curved to a sharp point. It was actually a lot cooler looking than an actual B.C. head stock, but obviously a knockoff.
Now, to be perfectly honest, it was a pretty good guitar for the money, and I had it for years. I even played in several cover bands with it. Wish I could post photos here, because I have a photo of me playing a gig with the guitar back when I was 20 years old. I'm now 57. However, in the early 1990's I had my eye on a Japanese made Jackson Soloist, but I sure as hell didn't have Jackson soloist money. So being the honest upstanding citizen I was, I repainted my Harmony B.C. R.B. fake. I even carefully hand painted the B.C. Rich signature logo on the obviously incorrect head stock, and then clear coated the entire guitar so it appeared like it was done at the factory. I walked into Guitar Center in Chicago with the fake guitar in hand, and walked out with a brand new $1,500 Japanese made Jackson Soloist without paying a single penny out of pocket. I had the GC manager convinced I was trading them even up with a one of a kind BC Rich from B.C.'s custom shop. Hook Line and Sinker! It took me all of about 30 minutes to convince them to swap me even up. I'd like to apologize to the sucker to whom GC sold my old guitar. I don't know what they charged you for it, but I'm quite sure it was probably somewhere around $2,000. Oops! I hope you learned a valuable lesson. I know I did. I learned that Guitar Center managers are not only a bunch of crooks, but they're also often just as gullible as the people they're trying to scam. So keep that in mind when you're trying to make a deal with them. 🤣
Thanks man, great post!
Same exact thing happened to me with a different guitar. I bought an Ibanez tod10 and they shipped it with the wrong pickups
Great work on exposing the fake. I hope they did the right thing.. They sold me a Schecter they listed in "Excellent" condition, but was far from it. The fretboard was covered in finger funk, needed a cleaning, oiling, frets polished, and all the hardware on the tremolo was red and rusty, one of the pot knobs was missing when I came to pick it up. It was ridiculous and none of that showed up in the photos. As a guy that does his own setups, the only criticism I have is that you complained about something every guitar owner should know how to do for themselves. Truss rod / action height adjustments. I've never run across a guitar I couldn't reasonably set up unless the fretboard was separating from the neck or clearly twisted from some sort of heat stress like it had been through a fire.
Ever read the Yelp reviews on your local Guitar Center? The negative reviews of course. That’s some quality entertainment right there.
Still looks kinda cool. How does it play?
Honestly the neck was super comfortable. Very thin. Not at all like the originals. But I've held 3 different fakes and they all have widely varying neck sizes. I will be uploading a second video in the future where guitar center sold me another fake annihilator
I actually purchased one of these off eBay. It was actually really well made and plays great. I actually had a custom lefty order from Oktober guitars when they first announced these but never received it. So I was stoked when these started popping up on eBay. Not looking like dean is ever gonna really make one for customers and oktober guitars is long gone and never met Doyle’s quality.
I have an original run Oktober Annihilator (when the were still 'October' without the 'K'), its a shame there are such crappy knock offs out there, I was hoping Dean would release a better quality import line but there really isn't as much demand for this guitar (and this is coming from someone who owns one!).
Great video, I heard about how crappy Guitar Centre could be but I really didn't think they would be this shady!
From working at guitar center I can easily say half the people they hire don’t care about the job or doing a good job you’d be surprised how many fakes I’ve seen bought in over my short time working there
That’s some pawn shop material right there. Shame on GC.
As a former GC employee I must say.
Leave it up to Guitar Center to sell you junk!
I'm surprised they are still in business 👈🤯
Everything is overpriced...!!!
Last November, Guitar Center sold me a smashed up Gretsch. They advertised it as mint, charged me, and even created a shipping label. Then a few days later they called me to tell me it was smashed and if id like a discount (which i declined). After I cancelled the order, I noticed that they kept the guitar listed as mint presumably to do the same thing to someone else :(
call the better business beuro or the attorney general and report guitar center for selling counterfeit guitars as real ones. maybe then guitar center will take you seriously. also make sure to record all conversations when you have them.
To Hell with these selfish corporations who could care less about their own customers. I work for one and it's called Extra Space Storage but that's beside the point. I'm just glad my Epiphone SG that I got from GC has a serial number
I had acquired a Guitar Center store card about 3 -4 years ago but terminated my account about 1 year later because I never purchased anything from them. After watching numerous videos about Guitar Center, it looks like I made a wise decision without even knowing it.
Twice I've come into GC with a few grand looking to spend and no one really addressed me. Even after telling them what I was looking to spend. They just stood there chatting. They also spent over a month with my guitar to be setup and new pups installed. Took a whole month to call me. Didn't even ask about action or what tuning I was looking for. Just "your guitar is done". I've given these guys multiple opportunities. They charged me twice for an order. Then when it got reversed, a day later the extra charge happened again. I had to do another reversal and remove my card on file. One more reason Sweetwater is the best. Just wish they had more locations.
There's a slim possibility it's not a fake...oktober guitars were so difficult to deal with when I tried to order a custom bass (want to say around 2002???) Found multiple stories of people chasing deposits left for materials after 6 months of no contact, shoddy work when items did arrive. Seems a shame as some of the designs were cool!
Hey there...I'm the original owner of Oktober Guitars. Not long after we stopped making the Annihilator line, the Chinese knockoffs started popping up all over the internet. Alibaba, DH Gate, Ebay etc etc. A few times people have reached out to me to ask if one was a fake, because some of the knockoffs had the Oktober name on them. It's very easy to tell a "real" Oktober model from a knockoff:
Look at the truss rod cover. It should be in a point, mimicking the headstock. That's the ONLY TR cover we did.
Look at the neck heel. Early models had a rounded heel, later models had a very deep recess that Doyle requested.
Check the hardware: We didn't use any "Floyd Rose Licensed" knockoffs. It should have a Floyd Rose Special.
Look at the end of the fretboard. They should be noticeably curved, not a straight line like in the video.
Look at the headstock: It should curve in on both sides, not just come to a straight point.
On a side note, we never did sell them for $400 "before we went bankrupt". Surprisingly to everyone, the Annihilators, while super cool, were not big sellers, so after our contract with Doyle was up, we didn't make any more. Eventually we got tired of the frivolous lawsuits coming once a week from "The Big G" and what was once the greatest job ever became the biggest headache ever, so I took a buyout and walked away. ;-)
Hope this info helps someone else to be able to spot a real Oktober from a Chinese knock-off. They were VERY well made guitars, and there were not that many made...under 200 probably. They're rare.
I grew up in Maryland
Like a couple of hours from the Oktoberfest warehouse
I remember the XP model they had
I ended up finding one from a guy on Craigslist about 4 hours away
It was a great guitar except whoever built it glued the neck on crooked and the treble strings were almost off the end of the fretboard
Some QC problems but it was a great guitar
Tbh wish I kept it
An explorer with a Floyd is sick
I’ve never had a bad experience with guitar center, but I also stand by the fact that ordering guitars or any instrument online is a bad idea. I’ll order an amp or cable but never a guitar or bass. I have had a bad experience with Sam ash though, they tried to give me like $45 for a mint condition affinity p-bass. And the guy tried telling me they’re $200 new, but there was one like 20 feet away that was labeled $280. Idk what he was yapping about lol. Guitar center have me either $140 cash for the bass and an old amp I had, or a trade, and I got a gsr200 with Seymour Duncan’s and upgraded tuners and a set of strings for the trade, the bass pretty much just has a chip in between the pickups, and a somewhat shotty soldering job on the upgraded pickups, which I can fix if there’s a problem further down the road.
So i felt like i got some counterfeit Ernie Ball strings the last time i purchased there in-store
Guitar Center has been absolutely atrocious recently. An amp I bought got busted in shipping. I returned it and the very next day I saw it listed on the floor. I thought "oh. maybe they found out was wrong with it!" Nope, still busted.
Edit: I just looked it up and they listed it online. I'm going there today and if it's still busted they're going to get an earful.
GC used to be better. When I worked there. The guitar guys knew everything. Now they’re all a bunch of people who know they have to sell guitars.
I miss the old days. You could almost build a guitar back then. Yeah man. I shop at the local spots or Sam ash in town. And sweetwater online. Yeah. You got to crusade against this crap.
Nice video. Thanks!
The fake has the last inlay on the neck further inside the body . The real one the last inlay is right when the neck meets the body. So it looks.
No more Guitar Center for me. Just imagine how many other musicians got long stroked, believing what they thought they were buying was top-notch gear.
Thank You Sincerely! I just bought a Carvin and ugh….. what a nightmare. I have to go in and fight with them now. Too much bull going on. Shall I add they are also Musicians Friend
I hate GC, they have killed all my local shops off. One that has been around since the 50s. Broke my heart. They are the Walmart of guitar stores
I noticed also that on the fake, the upper and lower cutaways/horns are symmetrical. The real one has a much deeper cutaway on the lower horn. If people are going to fake guitars, they should at least have a SEMI-good eye for detail. Those doods get an F on both the details and ethics of guitar making.
I stopped buying new gear from them. I bought a new MPC One just to find it was used. Even had a used sticker on the bottom of the unit. Bought a higher end midi controller with a similar story. Nearly $1k of gear. They took care of me but it should have never happened in the first place.
They also have a $75 used Arturia MineLab listed as a used Arturia Microfreak at my local store.
I used to have friends work for them that all left due to issues with GC management. Seems anyone left just genuinely doesn’t care about the job to perform better quality control.
One of their buddies brought that in and got a good high trade value.
I have been taking guitar lessons and playing for only a little over one year and I would never buy a guitar I could touch, feel and play for at least 10 minutes.
Sorry man,that sucked to get your dreams annihilated.....
Weird watching a metal guitar video with elevator music
I would buy it. No matter if it's fake. I love how it looks.
The fakes are definitely low quality. I will be doing a video on a fake one of my friends gifted to me. The one he got struggles to stay in tune at all. Prices have since dropped on fakes. You can now buy them for under 200 bucks on aliexpress Last I checked
I have so many questions. Was this guitar sold by Guitar Center or do they have a marketplace where third parties can sell things?
Since this was used I'm guessing whoever it was at guitar center who bought it didn't know any better. I can't really blame them since I think most people probably wouldn't know the difference.
Then there's the question of why these are in any kind of demand; from everything I've heard, they aren't very good and even Doyle said he didn't like them. I find it bizarre that anyone would bother to counterfeit a signature guitar from an artist with a niche following and where the artist publicly put it down.
my question is, how the frick do you play that guitar sitting down?
Who even plays sitting down? You don't go to war sitting down.
@@hatredbydesign if you are learning a song for example.
That's the fun part. You don't.
This used to be a problem with dimes guitars, it died down but now I fear it will resurface with the tribute tour..
At least you got a cool case and an Awesome Frankie knob head.