For people wanting to get into vs pumps for less money, Century motor makes a vgreen vs motor that attaches to your pump head. It has a interface to program or connects to control panels.
Because you can use lower speeds, and it's much more efficient to move water slower over more time, you can save a lot of electricity and yet have a cleaner pool at the same time. Variable speed pumps, especially the Pentair Intelliflo are the most durable and efficient pool pumps available.
Hayward variable speed pumps are junk. Every one fails. Their single speed pumps are great so not sure what the issues are. Jandy VS pumps are great but no controller is idiotic. Pentair Intelli-flo is good but the Sta-Rite Intelli-pro has more features, runs quieter and I've never seen any one fail.
Hayward had a issue when manufacturing the variable drives, the four bolts that mount the drive to the motor acts as a ground transfer from drive to motor. These bolts were not getting torqued to spec causing shorts on the drives. Hayward has addressed this. So they offer a 3 year warranty on the vs900 and 4 year on the vs950(best warranty in the game)
Jandy was the trash bucket at one point when they first came out. They have improved to become one of the best simply by buying out patents. The jandy vs pumps are a turn off for anyone without a rs system, they can however be ran as a single speed @ 2750 rpm. You do this by jumping from slot 1 to slot 3, and 2 to 4 on the comport on drive, then turn dip switch 1 and 3 on, on drive. When you do this, whenever the pump receives 240vac it will run at 2750 rpm. I've done this to keep people's pools going when their pcb takes a dump. Or they offer the iQ01 which is sorta a joke.
Intelliflo/intellipro are by far my favorite. I do not have a preference on either or as they are the same motor/drive. The body is what makes the difference in my opinion, if I am replacing a whisperflo, i will install a intelliflo for perfect plumbing line up. If I am replacing a sta rite pump, I will install the intellipro for perfect plumbing line up. If I am replacing any other pump, well time to do a lil more plumbing.
I have had a Pentair whisperflow since 2003, never , not once didi it have a single issue. But, it is now inefficient. Will replace it with a VS pump. Looking for a quiet one that costs around 800-900 US Dllrs... any recommendation?
If you purchase a Pentair Intelliflo VS pump, it should fit in exactly where the Wisperflo is - especially if your current pump is on unions that you can unscrew. But that is around $1,000. Depending on your pool you can go with the Superflo VS. I always think about the pump footprint for easy install but the Superflo will not match up with your current plumbing. Also, the voltage is important for the Intelliflo VS as it works on 230V and not on 115V. Jandy has a few new VS pumps with dual voltage and the Superflo VS is dual voltage.
I have a Hayward EcoStar (2.7 hp) who's drive just failed and I'm looking to replace the whole pump. I was going to go with the TriStar (2.7 hp) but after doing research I am wondering if we can get away with a lower hp pump? Our pool is about 13,500 gallons. I am thinking the previous owners got the higher hp because there were solar panels originally hooked up, which we have since disconnected. Can I get away with the Hayward TriStar (1.85 hp)? Or, at almost half the price, the Pentair SuperFlo (1.5 hp)?
Yes. go with a 1.5 HP VS pump. You don't need the 3HP. I've tested my pool with a 1 HP VS pump and now a 3 HP VS pump and didn't really notice any difference.
I'm in the market for a new VS pump. My state offers a $400 rebate. The Energy Star certification site that lists pumps by name doesn't appear to have been updated in at least a year, meaning newer models of pumbs aren't eligible for this benefit. Anyone have any intel on this issue? Also, what is the best time of year to buy a pump? Do they go on sale in the spring for example? Thank you.
Hey my friend..we're getting all three done, new pump vs, new heater and conversation from clorine to salt...I have a friend who does pentair wisperflow-hes giving me a good installation and price with heater ...would that be ok to use with Hayward salt water system?
@@SPL I'm am going to go with pentair..but I don't know if I should do the ic 30 or 40..he's giving me a price for installation and system for the Ic40 for just 1100.00. Do I ask for the 30 since my pool is only 13500 max gallons or do the ic 40. Is it better to go bigger and. Have it work less? Do u have any recommendations. I read alot about the ic 30 and how frequently they go bad.
I'm looking to go with a vs pump I found some generic Chines pumps, are they any good? and switch to SWG, I see people using a direct Chlorine pump, what's the difference? I'm looking to keep my maintenance as little as possible, Thank you
The chlorine pumps are good. For me I would purchase a brand with a presence in the USA. Waterway makes an inexpensive VS Pump and the Pentair Superflo VS is good for most pools unless it is larger than 20,000 gallons. That VS pump is priced very well too.
I would like to know which is better in performance, reliability ,and longevity. That's why I watched your video. The car analogy is not a good one. Al l.j 3 are not good. All 3 are popular but Lexus by far is more reliable and last longer the Mercedes and BMW. Therefore it's very unlikely the 3 pool parts makers pentair and so on are all reliable and good. There has to be one better then the other 2. Can you please make a video being more specific. Thanks.
I finally had a VS pump installed! Went with a Pentair superflo. I have a quick question about cleaning out the basket. When I turn the pump off, a majority of the leaves get sucked back into the suction pipes. Then when I restart the pump all the leaves shoot back in. So I'm never really able to fully clean the basket. My single speed pump never did this. Did the guy do my install incorrectly? Thanks for your help as always
This does not mean the install is bad. In fact it means the install was good. It's a sealed system. This sounds like a back pressure issue. When pumps are running back pressure is created between pump and filter(especially if filters are dirty). When the pump shuts off the water will backflow towards the pool. Here are some remedies, ensure your filters are clean, be sure solar is not activated when turning off pump, be sure spa mode and or spillway mode is not on when turning off pump. If you have solar ensure that the check valves have not failed as water draining from solar will do this as well. If all else fails, have a check valve installed on pump inlet.
I will never buy Pentair equipment again, after being a faithful customer for 30 years on pool equipment. Recently, I called Pentair customer services to check on the validity of a Pentair product n all I obtained was a bunch of lies or n wrong informations n also experienced an obnoxious treatments from Pentair customer service’s higher management person. Other than this, its 2 month warranty if you do not get a Pentair Installer to perform even a simple job of replacing a pump is an insult or a means to victimize customers to benefit its installers/dealers!
I switched to the pentair intellaflow VS a couple of years ago. At the same time I disconnected my booster pump for my pressure side cleaner and switched to a robot. The robot was a nightmare, I now have had a Polaris PB4SQ and a Polaris 3900 installed. The issue is now my 3900 doesn’t not receive enough pressure? Is this setup doable? If so, any ideas what is wrong?
Swimming Pool Tips, Reviews & How To - SPL, I tried it. I don’t think my booster pump is switching on, I’m not sure how they hooked it up to the timer. I turn the main pump on at the control display on the pump and the booster should be turned on at the timer box, main circuit and 3rd load, nothing. I’m going have to have a tech come back out, third time. Thanks for for the help, it’s appreciated.
@@calivalley9056 How did things work out? Like you I’m not a fan of running my robot everyday, lot easier to do so with a pressure pump on a timer. Also looking at that Pb4sq.
I’d love to see your review on the new black and decker pumps, so far people are loving it
I've seen it before. It is the same as the Circupool VS pump I reviewed here.
For people wanting to get into vs pumps for less money, Century motor makes a vgreen vs motor that attaches to your pump head. It has a interface to program or connects to control panels.
Pentair vs and iAqualink. Perfect vac suction every time
The Jandy automatically senses the voltage.
My DS Jandy is 2 yrs old and it seems now I can 'hear' it running while I did not when it was new. Should I be concerned?
Does a 3HP VS pump use more electricity? or Because you can lower the speed it is very effiecient?
Because you can use lower speeds, and it's much more efficient to move water slower over more time, you can save a lot of electricity and yet have a cleaner pool at the same time. Variable speed pumps, especially the Pentair Intelliflo are the most durable and efficient pool pumps available.
I HAVE A HAYWARD 2 SPEED, ITS GREAT! NEVER HAD A ISSUE WITH IT.....
Hayward variable speed pumps are junk. Every one fails. Their single speed pumps are great so not sure what the issues are.
Jandy VS pumps are great but no controller is idiotic.
Pentair Intelli-flo is good but the Sta-Rite Intelli-pro has more features, runs quieter and I've never seen any one fail.
Thanks for the feedback. Hayward had a bad run for sure. I think Jandy assumes everyone has an Aqaulink - LOL 👍
Hayward had a issue when manufacturing the variable drives, the four bolts that mount the drive to the motor acts as a ground transfer from drive to motor. These bolts were not getting torqued to spec causing shorts on the drives. Hayward has addressed this. So they offer a 3 year warranty on the vs900 and 4 year on the vs950(best warranty in the game)
Jandy was the trash bucket at one point when they first came out. They have improved to become one of the best simply by buying out patents. The jandy vs pumps are a turn off for anyone without a rs system, they can however be ran as a single speed @ 2750 rpm. You do this by jumping from slot 1 to slot 3, and 2 to 4 on the comport on drive, then turn dip switch 1 and 3 on, on drive. When you do this, whenever the pump receives 240vac it will run at 2750 rpm. I've done this to keep people's pools going when their pcb takes a dump. Or they offer the iQ01 which is sorta a joke.
Intelliflo/intellipro are by far my favorite. I do not have a preference on either or as they are the same motor/drive. The body is what makes the difference in my opinion, if I am replacing a whisperflo, i will install a intelliflo for perfect plumbing line up. If I am replacing a sta rite pump, I will install the intellipro for perfect plumbing line up. If I am replacing any other pump, well time to do a lil more plumbing.
Does pentair own sta-rite?
I had a Hayward vsp3400 installed in 2014, every 3 years I have to replace the motor, going on number 3, is this common?
That is not normal at all. Maybe there is some type of electrical issue going on at your equipment.
Depends, is it in the sun and exposed to weather, also rain off the roof will shorten equipment lifespan. 😳
What about the 3 hp Harris vs
I have had a Pentair whisperflow since 2003, never , not once didi it have a single issue. But, it is now inefficient. Will replace it with a VS pump. Looking for a quiet one that costs around 800-900 US Dllrs... any recommendation?
If you purchase a Pentair Intelliflo VS pump, it should fit in exactly where the Wisperflo is - especially if your current pump is on unions that you can unscrew. But that is around $1,000. Depending on your pool you can go with the Superflo VS. I always think about the pump footprint for easy install but the Superflo will not match up with your current plumbing. Also, the voltage is important for the Intelliflo VS as it works on 230V and not on 115V. Jandy has a few new VS pumps with dual voltage and the Superflo VS is dual voltage.
I read that the Intelliflo I2 vs pump 208/ 230V can be connected to a 15amp. Is that correct?
Black and Decker VS
I have a Hayward EcoStar (2.7 hp) who's drive just failed and I'm looking to replace the whole pump. I was going to go with the TriStar (2.7 hp) but after doing research I am wondering if we can get away with a lower hp pump? Our pool is about 13,500 gallons. I am thinking the previous owners got the higher hp because there were solar panels originally hooked up, which we have since disconnected. Can I get away with the Hayward TriStar (1.85 hp)? Or, at almost half the price, the Pentair SuperFlo (1.5 hp)?
Yes. go with a 1.5 HP VS pump. You don't need the 3HP. I've tested my pool with a 1 HP VS pump and now a 3 HP VS pump and didn't really notice any difference.
I'm planning to run a aquatrol rj for my semi above ground pool. Any recommendations for variable speed pump? Thank you in advance.
Depends on the size but a 1 hp VS pump should be fine.
Speck A91?
I'm in the market for a new VS pump. My state offers a $400 rebate. The Energy Star certification site that lists pumps by name doesn't appear to have been updated in at least a year, meaning newer models of pumbs aren't eligible for this benefit. Anyone have any intel on this issue? Also, what is the best time of year to buy a pump? Do they go on sale in the spring for example? Thank you.
I sent you an email directly.
I'd like to replace my Whisperflo pump with a Pentair Intelliflo - which is the best choice /part number currently?
That is a smart idea as it uses the same footprint. So very little replumbing is needed. I would go for the 3 hp model.
@@SPL thank you. Your videos are awesome and very helpful!
Hey my friend..we're getting all three done, new pump vs, new heater and conversation from clorine to salt...I have a friend who does pentair wisperflow-hes giving me a good installation and price with heater ...would that be ok to use with Hayward salt water system?
It will be fine if you don't have an automated system. Is there a reason you are not going with the pentair ichlor salt system?
@@SPL I'm am going to go with pentair..but I don't know if I should do the ic 30 or 40..he's giving me a price for installation and system for the Ic40 for just 1100.00. Do I ask for the 30 since my pool is only 13500 max gallons or do the ic 40. Is it better to go bigger and. Have it work less? Do u have any recommendations. I read alot about the ic 30 and how frequently they go bad.
Hayward hands down. 4 year warranty. Jandy has always been junk
Nope lol
Umm there should be two different ways to wire a pantair pump 110-220 different wiring on the back of the pump.
I'm looking to go with a vs pump I found some generic Chines pumps, are they any good? and switch to SWG, I see people using a direct Chlorine pump, what's the difference? I'm looking to keep my maintenance as little as possible, Thank you
The chlorine pumps are good. For me I would purchase a brand with a presence in the USA. Waterway makes an inexpensive VS Pump and the Pentair Superflo VS is good for most pools unless it is larger than 20,000 gallons. That VS pump is priced very well too.
Hayward or Pentair are my first choice for all equipment replacement.
I would like to know which is better in performance, reliability ,and longevity. That's why I watched your video. The car analogy is not a good one. Al l.j 3 are not good. All 3 are popular but Lexus by far is more reliable and last longer the Mercedes and BMW. Therefore it's very unlikely the 3 pool parts makers pentair and so on are all reliable and good. There has to be one better then the other 2. Can you please make a video being more specific. Thanks.
Can't go wrong with the Pentair Intelliflo VSF
I finally had a VS pump installed! Went with a Pentair superflo. I have a quick question about cleaning out the basket. When I turn the pump off, a majority of the leaves get sucked back into the suction pipes. Then when I restart the pump all the leaves shoot back in. So I'm never really able to fully clean the basket. My single speed pump never did this. Did the guy do my install incorrectly? Thanks for your help as always
This does not mean the install is bad. In fact it means the install was good. It's a sealed system. This sounds like a back pressure issue. When pumps are running back pressure is created between pump and filter(especially if filters are dirty). When the pump shuts off the water will backflow towards the pool. Here are some remedies, ensure your filters are clean, be sure solar is not activated when turning off pump, be sure spa mode and or spillway mode is not on when turning off pump. If you have solar ensure that the check valves have not failed as water draining from solar will do this as well. If all else fails, have a check valve installed on pump inlet.
FRANK Widdifield .
You can solve this by inserting a check valve on the intake pipe
What about the Leslie Pool brand, Jacuzzi? Heard anything about theirs?
Tommy Salami save yourself time and don’t do it. Pentair VSF all the way!!
Jacuzzi is the original creator of, you guess it, "Jacuzzi" whirlpool hot tubs.
you can buy Jacuzzi brand whirlpool hot tubs at Lowes.
@@davidjacobs8558 right, but how is their pool pump systems?
the lack of enthusiasm in the voice is putting me to sleep.... lol. informative, but DO NOT watch in bed or when even remotely sleepy!
Good night! 😂👍
I will never buy Pentair equipment again, after being a faithful customer for 30 years on pool equipment. Recently, I called Pentair customer services to check on the validity of a Pentair product n all I obtained was a bunch of lies or n wrong informations n also experienced an obnoxious treatments from Pentair customer service’s higher management person.
Other than this, its 2 month warranty if you do not get a Pentair Installer to perform even a simple job of replacing a pump is an insult or a means to victimize customers to benefit its installers/dealers!
I switched to the pentair intellaflow VS a couple of years ago. At the same time I disconnected my booster pump for my pressure side cleaner and switched to a robot. The robot was a nightmare, I now have had a Polaris PB4SQ and a Polaris 3900 installed. The issue is now my 3900 doesn’t not receive enough pressure? Is this setup doable? If so, any ideas what is wrong?
Maybe the VS pump is not running at a high enough RPM for the Booster Pump. Try setting the VS pump to 3100 RPM when Polaris Booster pump is running.
Swimming Pool Tips, Reviews & How To - SPL, I tried it. I don’t think my booster pump is switching on, I’m not sure how they hooked it up to the timer. I turn the main pump on at the control display on the pump and the booster should be turned on at the timer box, main circuit and 3rd load, nothing. I’m going have to have a tech come back out, third time. Thanks for for the help, it’s appreciated.
@@calivalley9056 How did things work out? Like you I’m not a fan of running my robot everyday, lot easier to do so with a pressure pump on a timer. Also looking at that Pb4sq.