Not once did the interviewer ask her to distinguish between anti-semitism and criticism of the state of Israel. A clear distinction should be made so people know what is being talked about.
There is a huge difference between specific criticism of current Israeli government policy and demonising Israel and Israelis and openly saying that Israel as a Jewish state has no right to exist! Corbyn was of the latter and therefore an anti-semite. Just do a RUclips search of "Jeremy Corbyn blames an Islamist terrorist attack on the “hand of Israel”. This video (one of many examples) clearly shows Corbyn believing in Anti-Israel conspiracy theories that, even after Al-Quada took responsibility for this terrorist attack, Corbyn still believed that it was really the Jews who did it! It shows that he irrationally demonises Israel and Israelis. According to the internationally recognised definition of Antisemitism, his words are Anti-Semitic.
Oh a document was written, I'm sure it was completely accurate , Israel is a far right government that deserves criticism ,Palestine deserves there own land back .
Israel has universal healthcare, recognizes women as equals, supports lgbtq rights…it’s a more left wing country than most states in America. The Palestinians were given multiple opportunities to form a state and refused every single time because they didn’t want Israel to exist at all; they’ve literally stated that they want to erase Israel and have a state where no Jews are allowed. Lol. So YOU are advocating for right wing extremists who want to impose ACTUAL apartheid. And I’ll bet you’re of ACTUAL Christian colonialist heritage because y’all are always the ones who want to blame the jews for literally everything. And that’s the reason we have Israel, because y’all will never stop doing that, no matter how evident it is that you’re the ones causing your own damn problems, not “the joooos”
The idea that Corbyn would "profoundly refuse" to confront antisemitism is something that I profoundly refuse to accept. I find this whole episode bizarre in the extreme. The idea simply makes no sense.
Corbyn’s selective reticence, was clearly analysed, by those who are not Anti-Semitic! His insidious manoeuvring, was the key, in perpetuating the Socialist Labour Zeitgeist under Corbyn’s tenure! To put it crudely: If it Looks, Walks, Quacks like a Duck…
Why Jeremy only really understands the world as a romantic struggle between oppressor and oppressed, and anything outside of that is the media conspiracy. When racism or racist conspiracy theories come from the left or Muslims, as in Raed Salah who said 9/11 was Jews, of whom Jeremy praised to the skies, or when it's a conspiracy theory he's actually quite susceptible to, it doesn't compute and never will.
The fact that you "profoundly refuse to accept" that A/S was rampant in the Labour party is very much part of the problem. Several national polls were carried out at the time amongst the Jewish community which showed that nearly half said they were so scared of Corbyn's Anti-Semitism that if he got into power, they would leave the country. The late Chief Rabbi of Great Britain Lord Sacks, stood up in the House of Lords and spoke about these fears. He was then publicly accused by member sof the Labour party as being a racist. Do you not remember this?
On the 13th September 2018, Rabbi Lord Sacks stood up in the House of Lords and said that most Anti-Semites swear blind that they aren't Anti-Semites! He said "Anti-Semitism or any hate becomes dangerous when three things happen. First when it moves from the fringes of politics to a mainstream party and its leadership. Second, when the party sees that its popularity with the general public is not harmed thereby. And three, when those who stand up and protest are vilified and abused for doing so. All three factors exist in Britain now. I never thought I would see this in my lifetime. That is why I cannot stay silent for it is not only jews who are at risk, so too is our humanity". The fact that you "profoundly refuse to accept" this was happening, is indeed the central part of the problem which enabled these anti-semites to thrive.
That’s first-past-the-post politics for you. It forces broad coalitions to coexist alongside one another in megaparties, when in a proportional system, as you say, Jeremy Corbyn would probably be in something called the Socialist Party and Tony Blair would be in something called the Social Democratic Party, which would often but not always cooperate in coalition Incidentally the same is true of the Conservatives. Tom Tugendhat and Jacob Rees-Mogg really don’t belong in the same party either
@@Matt-cz6ti Nigel Farage became an MEP by proportional representation . No you hold him and his Brexit Party/Reform Public Limited Company Party as a shining example of democracy ?
It's no longer possible to criticise Israel without being labelled as anti-sematic. I deplore everyone that uses religion (or lack of) and race to stigmatise. However, I reserve the right to criticise a State that uses apartheid as a weapon against the Palestinians.
In a country where there are Arab diplomats representing the State of Israel abroad, Supreme Court judges who have taken former Israeli Prime Ministers to jail, where there are heads of government departments, heads of corporations, police, fire, teachers, doctors and nurses, all Arabs and all working side-by-side their Jewish colleagues, serving all, town and cities where Arabs and Jews live together, school classrooms with Arabs and Jews...... claiming that Israel in an apartheid state like South Africa was, is a grotesque lie and is, yes demonising an entire State of Israel is anti-semitic under the international recognised definition of Anti-Semitism.
Oh, and by the way, a part of the Internationally agreed definition of Anti-Semitism which the Labour party signed up to. states "Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor, is anti-semitic".
It is when, instead of making specific criticisms of current Israeli government policy, you instead simply demonise Israel and Israelis and openly say that Israel as a Jewish state has no right to exist! That's exactly what Corbyn did. In a RUclips video entitled "Jeremy Corbyn blames an Islamist terrorist attack on the “hand of Israel” (one of many examples), Corbyn is recorded as making racist statements in the form of bizaar Anti-Israel conspiracy theories, saying that the thought the the Israelis were responsible for this terrorist attack even after Al-Quada had taken responsibility for it. It clearly shows that he irrationally demonises Israel and Israelis. According to the internationally recognised definition of Antisemitism, his words are Anti-Semitic.
Agreed. I often criticise the state of Israel. But I also unequivocally condemn the terrorism of Hamas, and unequivocally condemn anti-semitism. I doubt Berger would have any problem with me.
I find this interview so inane. It is one sided. Doesn't challenge berger nor the state of the party now. As for berger becoming an m.p. which constituency will she be flown into.?
@@mariogmajner6549 can't say I was a fan of corbyn myself. But he was democratically elected by the party. And was politically assassinated from within the party. If anyone cannot agree with that then they are just not honest. Also anyone who feels comfortable joining a party that is to the right of the one they left is either a professional politician or narcissistic
@@mariogmajner6549 actually it was still a broad church. Yes the membership had grown and it was to the left but the right wing of the party WAS still in place as well. What was happening was more democraticisation was happening within therefore M.P. 's didn't like that
What I have to laugh at is that I've never heard anyone accuse Jeremy corbyn of being PERSONALLY racist or anti semitic, yet because people use his picture or name on the Internet then he obviously must be.
@@Canadian_Skeptical Apart from campaigning against it, literally being on record for denouncing it and being arrested for protesting against such things......yeah screams "ambivalent". Just search Al jeezra Labour Files. The times are always peddling the most convenient lies.
Never heard of anyone? So take your fingers out of your ears. Corbyn has made statements which are clearly anti-semitic under the internationally recognised definition of Anti-Semitism, which the Labour party signed up to. His demonisation of Israel and Israelis and saying that Israel has no right to exist, bearing in mind that he singled out the only Jewish state in the world and never called for any other country to cease to exist, except Israel, meets the definition.
All of the abuse she received was from the far right which resulted in prosecutions. She was criticised by the constituency chair for her conduct, who was then rounded upon by the press even though he was Jewish. She was never popular having been parachuted into a safe Labour seat, I told this to her advisors when she decided to run for mayor. I'm absolutely certain she'll make a good MP somewhere, just never in Liverpool after how she treated us.
I am not sure whether Luciana has watched Peter Oborne on this. Obviously everyone should all have the greatest respect for her but just wonder if her sources of Anti Semitism are different to the academic sources that appear to exonerate Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party? Oborne might of course be wrong Luciana? What is your opinion?
You are like the person who says that he isn't racist but hates all Asian-looking people. When asked he replies that racism only means hatred of blacks. You cannot get around this. The Labour Party signed up for the Internationally recognised Definition of Anti-Semitism and that's her source. According to that definition, there were prominent members of the Labour party who were Anti-Semites. So, instead of admitting to it, they want to redefine Anti-Semitism as something else, which doesn't include them. You don't get to do this. Sorry.
@@mariogmajner6549 it feels like he’s quite judgemental. Some groups look down on others but if you dare say anything about them you are suddenly anti Semitic. You should be allowed to criticise anybody imo
And now when Israel finally have a fascist government (not my words, Bezalel Smotrich said it himself that he is a fascist homophobe) she can dream sweet dreams
The Internationally agreed definition of Anti-Semitism which the Labour party signed up to. includes this: "Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor", is anti-semitic. Come on, don't be shy. Apartheid? Which country are you referring to?
@@christopherjames7477Biased? What am I being biased about exactly and why? Immoral? Are you saying that all Jews are immoral, just some or just me? Please explain.
She has returned because Labour has now become the Liberal Democrat’s. And she was of course a member of that party and campaigned against Labour. She has now returned home. She is a liberal and is in the liberal party called the Labour Party. Just be honest about it.
What price and what loyalty are you talking about? Would you mind explaining exactly what you mean? She left the party because of Anti-semitism. Are you saying that you don't believe that was the reason and think there's another one connected with "price" and dual loyalties, because that's what it sounds like.
I agree and what it shows is that there are still so many Labour Party supporters who are anti-semites, it's just that, at the moment, post-Corbyn, they are (at least for the moment) no longer the leaders of the party. However, as we see from the comments section, the Corbynists are still very much alive and active.
Oldest hatred is loxism. The canannites are the first people to be wiped from the face of the earth. Their crime was not being Jewish. You do realise that the oldest holy book states all non Jews are animals? I'm Scots/irish , there's never been persecution of Jews in Scotland or Ireland. Yes, there's been racism. But no government persecution. That was us for 700 years and Jews actively took part. Antisemitism was weaponised to hide true racism and hatred of the working classes.
This is not news.the world is on the brink and all we care about is a political party,who in my view should be disbanded.its no longer relevant to the working man Not one party is worthy of anybody's vote.
@@mariogmajner6549 You should stop assuming you know who did and who didn't vote for Corbyn. You can only be certain of your own vote; unless others showed theirs to you before dropping it in the box.
You clearly don't know what the Internationally agreed definition of Anti-Semitism is then, which the Labour party signed up to. Corbyn was in breach of at least one clause, namely: "Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor."
@@RebMordechaiReviews Making stuff up wont make you sound smarter. When Kier Starmer started making these alligations, the EHRC coordinated with the UK gov to investigation the matter. They found no credible alligations that Corbyn was intentionally anti-semitic. But they said there was political interference in antisemitism complaints, failure to provide adequate training to those handling antisemitism complaints, and some people felt harrassed or intimidated under his leadership. Basically alot of BS heresay you come up with when you cant find anything credible. But when Corbyn's lawyer pressed and and said who were these people, and why they didnt come and speak to him about, there was silence. So ya, i personally think he gave in way too easily. But thats why i think Keir starmer is way smarter then him.
Just reading these comments below shows a complete lack of understanding of what has been uncovered concerning Corbyn's Labour party and what Luciana says in this video. This has nothing to do with criticizing Israels policies, it is about anti-Semitic hatred of individuals and Corbyn's part in either protecting individuals or looking the other way. The similarity between Corbyn and Trump fanatics is uncanny in their total blindness concerning their idols, both sets of supporters have an almost DPRK cult-like mindset concerning their dear leaders.
Have you watched the Labour Files doc? It's roundly trashes the smear and shows just how very much it was about insulating Israel from criticism, and it's forensic in its detail. If you're going to accuse others of fanaticism, you should at least be willing to hear the counter-arguments to prove you're not one yourself.
Yes. I have heard before people from your political perspective try to smear Corbyn as being like Trump. It is nonsensical, of course, but I don't expect you will stop.
I agree. While, of course, Corbyn himself is nothing like Trump, the most ardent Corbyn supporters have a lot in common with the most ardent Trump supporters.
That mural was not antisemitic. It featured the drawing of 6 specific individuals, 5 bankers and Aleister Crowley only 2 of those bankers were Jewish: Warburg and Rothchild. So no it wasn't an antisemitic cartoon. It featured prominent historical capitalists. The drawings of each individual accurately represented them and were not drawn with large noses.
There is no such thing, even the PM of Israel stated that, as he was years ago the one with his team came up with the term to just make it harder to criticise them, in that documentary he admits all of this in particular there is no such thing as Anti Semitism
Fantastic news that Luciana has felt that she can return to the Labour Party. Proof that Keir Starmer has done brilliant work so far on purging the antisemitic poison
On the 13th September 2018, Rabbi Lord Sacks stood up in the House of Lords and said that most Anti-Semites swear blind that they aren't Anti-Semites! He said "Anti-Semitism or any hate becomes dangerous when three things happen. First when it moves from the fringes of politics to a mainstream party and its leadership. Second, when the party sees that its popularity with the general public is not harmed thereby. And three, when those who stand up and protest are vilified and abused for doing so. All three factors exist in Britain now. I never thought I would see this in my lifetime. That is why I cannot stay silent for it is not only jews who are at risk, so too is our humanity". The fact that so many Labour Party supporters in this very comments section, even now, deny that there ever was A/S in the party, is indeed the central part of the problem which enabled these anti-semites to thrive. Indeed, at the time, Labour Party members went on the attack in reaction to Rabbi Lord Sack's speech and openly accused him of having "dual loyalty" (that classic A/S trope), and of being a fascist and a racist. To think that Corbyn almost won an election still fills the Jewish community with dread.
I think its because many people who voted for Corbyn didn't know his track record. And the media, by and large, did not focus on it in the way they would have if it had been anyone else. He was seen as just an eccentric. The old ideological left. He wasn't. Labour itself tolerated the far left for way too long. And you can still see it now within the unions. It's still there.
Yeah but ain't it funny how racism is cried when some one critique's Israel? How many Palestinian people need to die before we are allowed to speak up for them? Should we wait for death camps made by the Jewish state? I don't doubt there is anti-Semitism, but isn't racial prejudice a legal matter? I say let's have a police investigation. Keep your speechs, I won't listen to the people crying wolf.
😂😂😂😂😂 Well there's a surprise, running out of easy money i guess, lied constantly along with hodge and mann, back for 5 minutes and kid starver will give her a peerage
@@Jack-e5t Corbyn created the mess by betraying Labour Party policy which was to remain in the EU. He failed to energise the party to campaign to Remain in 2016 and then supported the Tories to get Article 50 through parliament, by imposing a 3 line whip. He’s as culpable as the Tories.
@@californiadreamin8423 he’s not great but the wetbrain original poster claiming he’d have been far worse than the successive shambles you’ve had up to now is deluded
Not once did the interviewer ask her to distinguish between anti-semitism and criticism of the state of Israel. A clear distinction should be made so people know what is being talked about.
There is a huge difference between specific criticism of current Israeli government policy and demonising Israel and Israelis and openly saying that Israel as a Jewish state has no right to exist!
Corbyn was of the latter and therefore an anti-semite. Just do a RUclips search of "Jeremy Corbyn blames an Islamist terrorist attack on the “hand of Israel”.
This video (one of many examples) clearly shows Corbyn believing in Anti-Israel conspiracy theories that, even after Al-Quada took responsibility for this terrorist attack, Corbyn still believed that it was really the Jews who did it!
It shows that he irrationally demonises Israel and Israelis. According to the internationally recognised definition of Antisemitism, his words are Anti-Semitic.
Those two have been colluding against Corbyn for years.
Totally agree
@@afa4727 😂😂😂
@@afa4727 Isn't it the only state, however small, that can do anything without being criticised?
Wonder what she thinks of Al Jazeera's Labour files. Doesn't look good on you Luciana...
Oh a document was written, I'm sure it was completely accurate , Israel is a far right government that deserves criticism ,Palestine deserves there own land back .
Israel has universal healthcare, recognizes women as equals, supports lgbtq rights…it’s a more left wing country than most states in America. The Palestinians were given multiple opportunities to form a state and refused every single time because they didn’t want Israel to exist at all; they’ve literally stated that they want to erase Israel and have a state where no Jews are allowed. Lol. So YOU are advocating for right wing extremists who want to impose ACTUAL apartheid. And I’ll bet you’re of ACTUAL Christian colonialist heritage because y’all are always the ones who want to blame the jews for literally everything. And that’s the reason we have Israel, because y’all will never stop doing that, no matter how evident it is that you’re the ones causing your own damn problems, not “the joooos”
And british jews deserve to feel at home at any party they decide to join
Smells like lies to me.
Wait a sec. I didn't think you could rejoin labour if you'd campaigned for another party? Can't wait for Keel Starboard to justify this!!
Forde report
The idea that Corbyn would "profoundly refuse" to confront antisemitism is something that I profoundly refuse to accept. I find this whole episode bizarre in the extreme. The idea simply makes no sense.
Corbyn’s selective reticence, was clearly analysed, by those who are not Anti-Semitic!
His insidious manoeuvring, was the key, in perpetuating the Socialist Labour Zeitgeist under Corbyn’s tenure!
To put it crudely:
If it Looks, Walks, Quacks like a Duck…
Why
Jeremy only really understands the world as a romantic struggle between oppressor and oppressed, and anything outside of that is the media conspiracy. When racism or racist conspiracy theories come from the left or Muslims, as in Raed Salah who said 9/11 was Jews, of whom Jeremy praised to the skies, or when it's a conspiracy theory he's actually quite susceptible to, it doesn't compute and never will.
The fact that you "profoundly refuse to accept" that A/S was rampant in the Labour party is very much part of the problem.
Several national polls were carried out at the time amongst the Jewish community which showed that nearly half said they were so scared of Corbyn's Anti-Semitism that if he got into power, they would leave the country.
The late Chief Rabbi of Great Britain Lord Sacks, stood up in the House of Lords and spoke about these fears. He was then publicly accused by member sof the Labour party as being a racist.
Do you not remember this?
On the 13th September 2018, Rabbi Lord Sacks stood up in the House of Lords and said that most Anti-Semites swear blind that they aren't Anti-Semites! He said "Anti-Semitism or any hate becomes dangerous when three things happen. First when it moves from the fringes of politics to a mainstream party and its leadership. Second, when the party sees that its popularity with the general public is not harmed thereby. And three, when those who stand up and protest are vilified and abused for doing so. All three factors exist in Britain now. I never thought I would see this in my lifetime. That is why I cannot stay silent for it is not only jews who are at risk, so too is our humanity".
The fact that you "profoundly refuse to accept" this was happening, is indeed the central part of the problem which enabled these anti-semites to thrive.
@@RebMordechaiReviews thats right, if you deny being a racist or a bigot, that automatically makes you a racist or a bigot...right? Excellent logic.
You really need more political parties in the UK. Corbyn and Tony Blair coming from the same party is ridiculous .
You’re dead right ….and the best party to look at is the Tory party.
That’s first-past-the-post politics for you. It forces broad coalitions to coexist alongside one another in megaparties, when in a proportional system, as you say, Jeremy Corbyn would probably be in something called the Socialist Party and Tony Blair would be in something called the Social Democratic Party, which would often but not always cooperate in coalition
Incidentally the same is true of the Conservatives. Tom Tugendhat and Jacob Rees-Mogg really don’t belong in the same party either
@@Matt-cz6ti Yeah, in the US it's almost like two tribes going to war now. In most parts of Europe we don't have that winner-takes-all system.
@@Matt-cz6ti Nigel Farage became an MEP by proportional representation . No you hold him and his Brexit Party/Reform Public Limited Company Party as a shining example of democracy ?
It's no longer possible to criticise Israel without being labelled as anti-sematic. I deplore everyone that uses religion (or lack of) and race to stigmatise. However, I reserve the right to criticise a State that uses apartheid as a weapon against the Palestinians.
In a country where there are Arab diplomats representing the State of Israel abroad, Supreme Court judges who have taken former Israeli Prime Ministers to jail, where there are heads of government departments, heads of corporations, police, fire, teachers, doctors and nurses, all Arabs and all working side-by-side their Jewish colleagues, serving all, town and cities where Arabs and Jews live together, school classrooms with Arabs and Jews...... claiming that Israel in an apartheid state like South Africa was, is a grotesque lie and is, yes demonising an entire State of Israel is anti-semitic under the international recognised definition of Anti-Semitism.
Oh, and by the way, a part of the Internationally agreed definition of Anti-Semitism which the Labour party signed up to. states "Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor, is anti-semitic".
@@RebMordechaiReviews Amnesty International reported Israel as an Apartheid State.
@@RebMordechaiReviews exactly
So selfless of her , because I'm sure she's not returning just because there's nowhere else offering her a better opportunity .
These two obsession over Corbyn is unreal
It's her meal ticket
Criticism of the state of Israel is not anti-semitism
It is when, instead of making specific criticisms of current Israeli government policy, you instead simply demonise Israel and Israelis and openly say that Israel as a Jewish state has no right to exist! That's exactly what Corbyn did.
In a RUclips video entitled "Jeremy Corbyn blames an Islamist terrorist attack on the “hand of Israel” (one of many examples), Corbyn is recorded as making racist statements in the form of bizaar Anti-Israel conspiracy theories, saying that the thought the the Israelis were responsible for this terrorist attack even after Al-Quada had taken responsibility for it. It clearly shows that he irrationally demonises Israel and Israelis. According to the internationally recognised definition of Antisemitism, his words are Anti-Semitic.
It is in Starmer's eyes.
Antisemitism isnt criticisim. Is bigotry
Agreed. I often criticise the state of Israel. But I also unequivocally condemn the terrorism of Hamas, and unequivocally condemn anti-semitism. I doubt Berger would have any problem with me.
I find this interview so inane. It is one sided. Doesn't challenge berger nor the state of the party now. As for berger becoming an m.p. which constituency will she be flown into.?
Both of these women hate Corbyn.
@@mariogmajner6549 can't say I was a fan of corbyn myself. But he was democratically elected by the party. And was politically assassinated from within the party. If anyone cannot agree with that then they are just not honest. Also anyone who feels comfortable joining a party that is to the right of the one they left is either a professional politician or narcissistic
@@spartacusforlife1508 She left precisely because Labour were a left wing Party under Corbyn.
@@mariogmajner6549 actually it was still a broad church. Yes the membership had grown and it was to the left but the right wing of the party WAS still in place as well. What was happening was more democraticisation was happening within therefore M.P. 's didn't like that
@@spartacusforlife1508 I meant more left wing policies than.left wing Party.
What I have to laugh at is that I've never heard anyone accuse Jeremy corbyn of being PERSONALLY racist or anti semitic, yet because people use his picture or name on the Internet then he obviously must be.
no he is just ambivalent towards it!
@@Canadian_Skeptical She falsely accused Corbyn of Antisemitism
@@Canadian_Skeptical Apart from campaigning against it, literally being on record for denouncing it and being arrested for protesting against such things......yeah screams "ambivalent".
Just search Al jeezra Labour Files. The times are always peddling the most convenient lies.
@@Canadian_Skeptical ambivalent. Have you read the forde report?
Never heard of anyone? So take your fingers out of your ears.
Corbyn has made statements which are clearly anti-semitic under the internationally recognised definition of Anti-Semitism, which the Labour party signed up to. His demonisation of Israel and Israelis and saying that Israel has no right to exist, bearing in mind that he singled out the only Jewish state in the world and never called for any other country to cease to exist, except Israel, meets the definition.
All of the abuse she received was from the far right which resulted in prosecutions. She was criticised by the constituency chair for her conduct, who was then rounded upon by the press even though he was Jewish.
She was never popular having been parachuted into a safe Labour seat, I told this to her advisors when she decided to run for mayor. I'm absolutely certain she'll make a good MP somewhere, just never in Liverpool after how she treated us.
On a positive note, Israel has a far right government. Just don’t say it. Bezalel Smotrich may get upset.
They will never tell the truth on this, as it's an establishment hatchet job all the way through, from the media to the party.
So why was she not happy in the Liberal Democrats
I am not sure whether Luciana has watched Peter Oborne on this. Obviously everyone should all have the greatest respect for her but just wonder if her sources of Anti Semitism are different to the academic sources that appear to exonerate Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party? Oborne might of course be wrong Luciana? What is your opinion?
You are like the person who says that he isn't racist but hates all Asian-looking people. When asked he replies that racism only means hatred of blacks. You cannot get around this. The Labour Party signed up for the Internationally recognised Definition of Anti-Semitism and that's her source. According to that definition, there were prominent members of the Labour party who were Anti-Semites. So, instead of admitting to it, they want to redefine Anti-Semitism as something else, which doesn't include them. You don't get to do this. Sorry.
What a joke . The anti corbyn crusade has been ridiculous
Agreed. He’s different. But he’s not evil
@@krob2327 Starmer is evil.
@@mariogmajner6549 it feels like he’s quite judgemental. Some groups look down on others but if you dare say anything about them you are suddenly anti Semitic. You should be allowed to criticise anybody imo
Agreed
I’m so pleased that Luciana can sleep at night.
And now when Israel finally have a fascist government (not my words, Bezalel Smotrich said it himself that he is a fascist homophobe) she can dream sweet dreams
The most famous Theocracy on the planet, apartheid is OK in a Theocracy .......
The Internationally agreed definition of Anti-Semitism which the Labour party signed up to. includes this: "Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor", is anti-semitic.
Come on, don't be shy. Apartheid? Which country are you referring to?
@@RebMordechaiReviews You're a jew
@@christopherjames7477 How astute of you. And your point is?
@@RebMordechaiReviews you are majorly biased, and immoral.
@@christopherjames7477Biased? What am I being biased about exactly and why?
Immoral? Are you saying that all Jews are immoral, just some or just me? Please explain.
She has returned because Labour has now become the Liberal Democrat’s. And she was of course a member of that party and campaigned against Labour. She has now returned home. She is a liberal and is in the liberal party called the Labour Party. Just be honest about it.
No such thing as "left and right wing". Just good and bad.
That’s three times she’s switched what price loyalty
What price and what loyalty are you talking about? Would you mind explaining exactly what you mean?
She left the party because of Anti-semitism. Are you saying that you don't believe that was the reason and think there's another one connected with "price" and dual loyalties, because that's what it sounds like.
Tim Comley…..You mean the loyalty of Brexiteer Corbyn !!!
@@californiadreamin8423 Corbyn.over the EU all day long.
@@RebMordechaiReviews I’m saying she joined another party , so not the most loyal of people but nothing wrong with ego
@@timcomley5948 I'd say a large ego was a prerequisite for becoming a politician, but I suppose she'd argue, who betrayed who?
Might want to read the Forde report
You read the comments below and you realise what a huge problem the oldest hatred is.
I agree and what it shows is that there are still so many Labour Party supporters who are anti-semites, it's just that, at the moment, post-Corbyn, they are (at least for the moment) no longer the leaders of the party. However, as we see from the comments section, the Corbynists are still very much alive and active.
Oldest hatred is loxism. The canannites are the first people to be wiped from the face of the earth. Their crime was not being Jewish. You do realise that the oldest holy book states all non Jews are animals? I'm Scots/irish , there's never been persecution of Jews in Scotland or Ireland. Yes, there's been racism. But no government persecution. That was us for 700 years and Jews actively took part. Antisemitism was weaponised to hide true racism and hatred of the working classes.
Is the terribly lit and almost invisible interviewer Ayesha Hazarika?
This is not news.the world is on the brink and all we care about is a political party,who in my view should be disbanded.its no longer relevant to the working man
Not one party is worthy of anybody's vote.
You should have voted for Corbyn
@@mariogmajner6549 why?
@@deanbr6ndo70 For the many, not the few.
Vote Green Party?... or are they all tree hugging antizionist antisemites too???
Methinks (Zionist) Labour cries "Wolf!" just a little too often...
@@mariogmajner6549 You should stop assuming you know who did and who didn't vote for Corbyn. You can only be certain of your own vote; unless others showed theirs to you before dropping it in the box.
Go Luciana!!
To another party. Again.
There was no anti-semitism under Corbyn. It was just a good tactic by Kier Starmer. Got to give him credit for that.
You clearly don't know what the Internationally agreed definition of Anti-Semitism is then, which the Labour party signed up to.
Corbyn was in breach of at least one clause, namely:
"Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor."
@@RebMordechaiReviews Israel propaganda
@@RebMordechaiReviews Making stuff up wont make you sound smarter. When Kier Starmer started making these alligations, the EHRC coordinated with the UK gov to investigation the matter. They found no credible alligations that Corbyn was intentionally anti-semitic. But they said there was political interference in antisemitism complaints, failure to provide adequate training to those handling antisemitism complaints, and some people felt harrassed or intimidated under his leadership. Basically alot of BS heresay you come up with when you cant find anything credible. But when Corbyn's lawyer pressed and and said who were these people, and why they didnt come and speak to him about, there was silence. So ya, i personally think he gave in way too easily. But thats why i think Keir starmer is way smarter then him.
Of course there was, but not at his instigation, and not on the scale that his critics claim.
@@LordAmbrosia1 Please tell us what anti-semitism occured under Corbyn?
So happy you’re back 😊❤
She falsely accused Corbyn of Antisemitism.
Come off it where’s her loyalty
Just reading these comments below shows a complete lack of understanding of what has been uncovered concerning Corbyn's Labour party and what Luciana says in this video. This has nothing to do with criticizing Israels policies, it is about anti-Semitic hatred of individuals and Corbyn's part in either protecting individuals or looking the other way.
The similarity between Corbyn and Trump fanatics is uncanny in their total blindness concerning their idols, both sets of supporters have an almost DPRK cult-like mindset concerning their dear leaders.
How many citizens can't afford food in the UK? Can you tell me that? No. Instead your obsessing over this, the elites have you distracted very well.
If I need to join a cult to not support a fascist Israel, sure. Israel = fascism.
Have you watched the Labour Files doc? It's roundly trashes the smear and shows just how very much it was about insulating Israel from criticism, and it's forensic in its detail. If you're going to accuse others of fanaticism, you should at least be willing to hear the counter-arguments to prove you're not one yourself.
Yes. I have heard before people from your political perspective try to smear Corbyn as being like Trump. It is nonsensical, of course, but I don't expect you will stop.
I agree. While, of course, Corbyn himself is nothing like Trump, the most ardent Corbyn supporters have a lot in common with the most ardent Trump supporters.
That mural was not antisemitic. It featured the drawing of 6 specific individuals, 5 bankers and Aleister Crowley only 2 of those bankers were Jewish: Warburg and Rothchild. So no it wasn't an antisemitic cartoon. It featured prominent historical capitalists. The drawings of each individual accurately represented them and were not drawn with large noses.
There is no such thing, even the PM of Israel stated that, as he was years ago the one with his team came up with the term to just make it harder to criticise them, in that documentary he admits all of this in particular there is no such thing as Anti Semitism
That's ridiculous.
Fantastic news that Luciana has felt that she can return to the Labour Party. Proof that Keir Starmer has done brilliant work so far on purging the antisemitic poison
Are you being sarcastic?
On the 13th September 2018, Rabbi Lord Sacks stood up in the House of Lords and said that most Anti-Semites swear blind that they aren't Anti-Semites! He said "Anti-Semitism or any hate becomes dangerous when three things happen. First when it moves from the fringes of politics to a mainstream party and its leadership. Second, when the party sees that its popularity with the general public is not harmed thereby. And three, when those who stand up and protest are vilified and abused for doing so. All three factors exist in Britain now. I never thought I would see this in my lifetime. That is why I cannot stay silent for it is not only jews who are at risk, so too is our humanity".
The fact that so many Labour Party supporters in this very comments section, even now, deny that there ever was A/S in the party, is indeed the central part of the problem which enabled these anti-semites to thrive. Indeed, at the time, Labour Party members went on the attack in reaction to Rabbi Lord Sack's speech and openly accused him of having "dual loyalty" (that classic A/S trope), and of being a fascist and a racist. To think that Corbyn almost won an election still fills the Jewish community with dread.
I think its because many people who voted for Corbyn didn't know his track record. And the media, by and large, did not focus on it in the way they would have if it had been anyone else. He was seen as just an eccentric. The old ideological left. He wasn't. Labour itself tolerated the far left for way too long. And you can still see it now within the unions. It's still there.
Yeah but ain't it funny how racism is cried when some one critique's Israel? How many Palestinian people need to die before we are allowed to speak up for them? Should we wait for death camps made by the Jewish state?
I don't doubt there is anti-Semitism, but isn't racial prejudice a legal matter? I say let's have a police investigation.
Keep your speechs, I won't listen to the people crying wolf.
I imagine they were Labour supporters with the previous leader, but I wonder if most of them are Labour supporters now.
Having heard how the hard left is reacting to this news I can see why she left.
What a wonderful lady.
Amen Amen
How can you just straight up lie like this? Disgusting
She is beautiful those eyes 😅
😂😂😂😂😂 Well there's a surprise, running out of easy money i guess, lied constantly along with hodge and mann, back for 5 minutes and kid starver will give her a peerage
Imagine if Corbyn was our P.M (what a mess we would all be in now )
As opposed to the mess you’re all in now? 😂
@@Jack-e5t Corbyn created the mess by betraying Labour Party policy which was to remain in the EU. He failed to energise the party to campaign to Remain in 2016 and then supported the Tories to get Article 50 through parliament, by imposing a 3 line whip. He’s as culpable as the Tories.
@@Jack-e5t 😂😂😂
@@californiadreamin8423 he’s not great but the wetbrain original poster claiming he’d have been far worse than the successive shambles you’ve had up to now is deluded
@@Jack-e5t Poster ??? Not interested. Do you deny the accuracy of my post ?