I played this demo back then... The power plant blows up when the 20 minutes are up. I remember trying to build as much as possible in those 20 minutes. Oh the memories...
When I moved last year, I found my old SC2K box, still had the floppies and manual inside, plus the Urban Renewal Kit! I spent thousands of hours playing this game.
Circuit City used to have (at the least the one near me) these and many other "demo" disks or CDs when you both first walked in on like an end-cap style metal shelf unit and also near the checkout area. Sometimes they offered freebies, but if I recall correctly this particular demo disk was about 2 bucks at checkout. The full game would come out a few months later and I believe it retailed for somewhere between $20-30 at most.
I had sim city 2000 back in the day, it ran on cd-rom with windows 98. Got it after we got our new computer which was a gateway, came in the box which resembled a milk cow 😂. Back when we used Napster and Winamp.
I remember the demo coming with SimCopter or Streets of SimCity (or both, can't remember exactly as it was a long time ago). Same demo city layout and everything. Shame I never got SimCity 2000 until it was out on GOG.
Was the full game available on floppy disk or was it only on CD? I do remember playing a demo version of SC2K that I'm sure came on a CD somewhere. Can't remember if it was from the CD "Classic" version of the original SimCity for Windows that I remember buying in like 1998. Seems most likely. The only other disc coming to mind is this Sega PC demo disc I remember getting with the original boxed release of Sonic 3 PC, which I remember having like HyperCard and Klik 'n Play demos on it, which were as equally not Sega games.
I had this for Macintosh, it came on a floppy attached to a Mac magazine. I definitely remember that demo city, I still have the save of it. But the Mac version I had definitely had sound.
Holy shit, I played Sim City 2000 for years. How did I not know you could shoot the helicopter? Nearly 30 years of ignorance. Man!! I feel such a fool.
I never got to the Arcologies as a kid... but I did when I powergamed SC2k 8 years ago or so, finally learned how to properly played it. Turns out building an airport next to an Arcology can be a very bad idea...
@@kildogery that's not what I meant... planes will crash into arcologies *every time* when taking off or landing if the arcology is right next to the airport, and the arcology is located one tile of elevation higher than the airport and in the path of the planes. Try it out some time ;)
@LGR Blerbs Clint, I was working at a Software ETC at the time those demo floppies were available. You indeed had to make a purchase, but it was free with ANY purchase, including the $.99 bin items. We got a big box of them and after the first month we were instructed by the regional manager to just give them away. I tried the one you have in this video and was impressed by it! So much so that I was hyping people up for the SC2k release. I think we sold out of the full retail game the day is went live and sold through most of our second shipment a few days later. Good times!
@@Toonrick12 IIRC, our first shipment was 40 copies, our second was 60. That was Crossroads Mall in Salt Lake City back in the early 90's. Selling out of anything was really something back then.
Wow, played in a shop long time ago, and remember clear Has 20 minutes of limit time before the city was destroyed for the all events of destruction, but in these years can "delete" this limit time via Hex editor (need find in old groups for find this software)
I miss Circuit City if for no other reason than it provided another option for nationwide electronics retail. Now we only have, what, Best Buy? Where’s the competition?
@@FlippytheMasterofPie Though locations are limited nowadays, Fry’s Electronics is still a bastion for those browsing sessions reminiscent of expensive edutainment toy stores, Circuit City’s big-boxness and Radioshack’s electronic component selection (except way higher quality). If anyone reading this is a Portland Retro Gaming Expo attendee, there’s a rather massive Fry’s in Wilsonville (16 miles SW of Portland). There’s also ‘Bullwinkle’s Miniature Golf’ and go karting there as well.
@@semuta2752 Fry’s just announced they were closing up shop effective immediately the other day. Can’t even go in the store to get clearance deals. Siiiiggghhh
I don't know how many people found it, but way back in the day someone somewhere uploaded the full version of SC2000 to a university FTP, I think my first copy was that one downloaded. Wierd it was just there open to the public. Was there for a good while too. Bought it for real a while later on a budget label but I'm still amazed I found it like that. The old internet really was the wild west.
@@kaitlyn__L I did not know that, but also internet in South Africa back then was a luxury (Can argue it still is) so I couldn't browse the net willy nilly back then unfortunately
I remember purchasing this game back in the early 90s and feeling so disappointed that my computer didn't even meet the minimum spec requirement, even with a boot disc. Never got to play it.
I shouldn't be seeing this video. I'm a recovered SimCity addict. This just makes me want to install Sim City 4 or... god help me! Cities Skylines again and waste more hours of my life on a neverending game.
@@Penoatle I love megacities so I need at least 2 mods: Air purifiers and trash removals. Yeah, it's cheating but your cities will look gorgeous and you won't have to worry about the pollution.
@@Angellmbrr It is not cheating. How can you cheat with art? It assists you in making the best city you can. I am also assuming you did the fix to prevent crashing? I am glad something like that exists and is simple.
Don’t feel bad, I had this addiction to The Sims. Had the first sims along with all the expansion packs 😂. Then it went into The Sims 2 and all the expansion packs and 3. Stopped at 4, wasn’t a very big fan.
I bought one of these new at MEI MicroCenter in the 90s. It was located in the regular software section. And yes, I paid money for it. I think it was $3.00.
Ah yes, my childhood, when our home computers either didn't have soundcards, or nobody knew how to get them to work with videogames. That, or we didn't have speakers. So many videogames played without sounds. 😁
because EA are corporate shitheads. if they ever release it, it's going to be a shitty freemium atrocity full to the brim with MTX, just like sim city build it
Yoot Tower (its spiritual successor) was available on iOS but for whatever reason it was pulled from the App Store. Kind of a shame, seeing as it has a native 64-bit build and everything.
@@CharlesAnjos EA doesn't own SimTower, it was just the localized name of a game not developed by Maxis. The sequel Yoot Tower (localized by Sega) was on iOS
I always loved to find these demos at stores as a kid. A buck or 2 to get something that downloading myself may not have always been possible and getting that "new game" feel on a whim
Hell YES! This was my first taste of SimCity waaaay back when. Edit: They had this wrapped in plastic and with a little hang tag stuck to the back of it for like $2 on one of those end shelf display hanging things - like you see at the grocery store, at the local Compusmart computer/game store about 30 years ago...
Great video, I love SimCity 2000, great memories of playing it. I wonder if you save a city on the retail version, name it the same as the demo city if it'll load it, with the items that are locked out too?
SimCity 2000 was my jam as a kid, played it everywhere except at home since I did not own a copy of my own until years later. Also, Home of the Underdogs reference? Coolio.
I can confirm that the construction sprites you pointed out are not used in the full game, having spent some time staring at SC2K sprites for a project you covered in another Blerb. The game has 256 "building" assignments ("XBLD" values in the code), including things like roads, trees, the actual buildings, etc, and each of those 256 data values is used in-game; none are associated with anything that looks like the construction sprites you pointed out. My guess, given my limited knowledge, is that either the demo was completed before all the XBLD data was finalized, and those sprites were later removed; or, they used values associated with buildings they removed from the demo in order to include the extra construction sprites. Someone else may be able to correct me. Either way, great Blerb - always fun to see new SC2K content!
Crazy to think that some of the games we used to play for hours and hours came on two 3.5" Disks. I just downloaded the demo of a new game (Outriders) and the DEMO was 21GB. How times change.
Huh, I don't remember retail demos. I do remember buying the the shareware version of Quake at Kmart for $10 that could be unlocked by calling ID and buying key. Some unscrupulous people may have used cracks or key generators to get around that, but teenage me would never do such a thing. No, never.
I remember It was sold at Babbage's in the 1990's at the store near where I lived at. These demo disks were sold the front counter by the cash register.
I remember when my dad bought me this, I always had to wait till my mom got off the computer to play, she always took forever playing her POGO and Gamesville games. Especially 3 eyes bingo. Man brings back my childhood memories. Good ole days.
Clint, people who registered their games, would sometimes receive free demo discs from Maxis. I remember my father receiving that Simcity 2000 Demo disc in the mail from Maxis, along with a newsletter of sorts. I hope this helps!
I did find/buy a demo disk at best buy for the ps2 prince of persia as a kid. In hindsight I'm not sure why it existed. I suppose it was valuable marketing since prince of persia would be a lesser known property, but I imagine the sequel to sim city being valuable already
HOLY SHIT. I played this demo all the time as a kid on my family’s PowerBook 3400c. It was part of a demo pack cd I still have. I remember getting the full game for Christmas after begging my parents. Good times.
Yes, that 2x2 construction tile is definitely not in the full game. I played this so much as a child each pixel of this pixel art is seared into my brain, that is definitely different!
My favorite demo disk was the 4-disk demo for Tie Fighter. It started you off right in the middle of a basic mission and it was pretty awesome. The fun part was that it was a bit glitchy, so sometimes when you started it, your tie fighter would have concussion missiles, or some other weird shit would happen from time to time.
Back then you paid $ for a demo with the full game available for more. Today you pay full price for a half baked game and eventually it becomes playable.
Imagine fitting a whole game like that nowadays under 1.44 megabytes. Even a low sprite game like Super Meatball is 500mb installed. Edit: to be fair they left off a big chunk of the game to make it fit, but still...
There's a game Called kkringer which is 96kb. You can download for windows (works upto 10). It creates sprite by program code. And speciality of this game is it's 3d fps game and it was made in 2004
Someone probably already mentioned this, but shooting down the helicopter doesn't cause a fire if you have "No Disasters" enabled, which this demo city does by default.
A couple years ago I wrote an extractor for SimCity graphics (all of them, not just what SCURK allows). If I find the time I'll see if I can dig through the data files from this, as now I'm interested in what else might be different.
Had a chance to look at the tile graphics. There wasn't much different besides what was already pointed out. The most notable thing is that one of the residential 3x3 buildings has extra features and the drive in theater has a blank screen instead of the ant animation. I've uploaded a sprite sheet to Spriter's Resource of the significant changes I could find if anyone is interested.
So many memories from my early teens - so many hours after homework did I play this game :D Trip down Memory Lane for sure :) (on an old TOSHIBA CDS Laptop - or at least, I THINK it was a CDS)
Saw stuff like this (probably even saw one of these) at CompUSA when I was a teenager. Definitely at the little spinning rack thing by the check-out lanes...Most of that stuff was like $2 to $5. Sometimes these were also free to pick from when you bought a big-box game. They just had a display with five or so different demos to pick from when you got a real game. I remember getting a Quake II demo.
a bit off topic but in case anyone agrees.... anyone played the latest demo of the new system shock ? well, that demo sold me on the game, and now i wonder why the heck doesn't more studios make any kind of demos no more ? it is nice to have a taste of the game before u pay like $40 to $60 out of ur hard earned cash , u can also see if the game runs fine, thankfully system shock ran in 60fps (mostly) and i liked that.... wish more demos are made, u can some fun for free and maybe shell some money knowing u will have a good time. miss shareware, those days were awesome!
I was playing that after school on our 486 DXII before my parents got home from work, when I heard on the radio that Kurt Kobane killed himself. Infact I just started a Cities: Skylines Industries map this morning. LOL Nothing beats that SIERRA and MAXIS intro though for nostalgia. I can hear intro over those Logitech PC speakers. Privateer was one of my all time favorites... Sim City of course... Roger Wilco(Space Quest series... and The Kings Quest ones.) Police quest too. I bought SWAT but it didn't work on out PC so I just admired the box. We had Longbow, ACES over europe, and Pacific. Microsoft Flight sims, and combat flight sims... and of course DOOM, Quakes, Duke Nuk'em... my dad loved the shooters.
I guess the system requirements on the sleeve are for the full game since it mentions sound cards there. I like how often demos were earlier version of games. Age of Empires 1 had some short, unique campaigns which weren't in the full version and you could see how some of the maps were later tweaked and changed around.
I have a Maxis Sampler Disc from 1997, which features loads of little demos from the Dark Age, along with a fun preview of the lost 3D SimCity 3000. I'll dig it up, I hope I didn't box it up with my other CD-ROMs.
Never played SC2K but since you mentioned OS/2, having played both I found that SimCity Classic for OS/2 was slightly better than SimCity Classic for Windows just in terms of visuals and game play.
Hi! First time commenting. Never seen the demo disk, but my brother did have SC2K for the SNES, which ran slow enough. Anyway, I always like the videos you make. God bless!
Come on, stop lying about it being just slightly different enough to do a Blerb.... It was just exactly SimCity enough to do a video about it no matter what. =P Peace Clint and thanks!
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I played this demo back then... The power plant blows up when the 20 minutes are up. I remember trying to build as much as possible in those 20 minutes.
Oh the memories...
I know you can kind of recreate that with disasters on, so that the plants age and die, but also having it as a game mode sounds amazing
Ha ha yes! This demo is what got me to pirate the whole game!
And just like this sc2000 battle royale was born in 2021.
@@Linuxpunk81 I'm sure that's the outcome the marketers had in mind when green lighting this demo release
Same lol yes!
When I moved last year, I found my old SC2K box, still had the floppies and manual inside, plus the Urban Renewal Kit! I spent thousands of hours playing this game.
Ah SCURK! Spent waaaaay to much time in that editing cities to then be played in Streets of SimCity or SimCopter.
LGR doing a great Nero impression at the end watching his burning city.
YES! Sim City is my bag baby. I have all the media including this one.
Circuit City used to have (at the least the one near me) these and many other "demo" disks or CDs when you both first walked in on like an end-cap style metal shelf unit and also near the checkout area. Sometimes they offered freebies, but if I recall correctly this particular demo disk was about 2 bucks at checkout. The full game would come out a few months later and I believe it retailed for somewhere between $20-30 at most.
this is still my favorite sim city.
I played SC2K on my mac, I never knew that the Newspaper Strike meant out of memory, I went crazy changing tax rates
Dude I didn't know about /w for dir. This is a game changer
/p and /on are also useful, showing long file lists in single-screen pages and organizing files alphabetically.
@@LGRBlerbs you're amazing thank you. I've started learning dos a few years ago but never really knew all these commands to make life easier
@@LGRBlerbs what does /on do? In dosbox it doesn't seem to do anything.
I had sim city 2000 back in the day, it ran on cd-rom with windows 98. Got it after we got our new computer which was a gateway, came in the box which resembled a milk cow 😂. Back when we used Napster and Winamp.
I remember the demo coming with SimCopter or Streets of SimCity (or both, can't remember exactly as it was a long time ago). Same demo city layout and everything. Shame I never got SimCity 2000 until it was out on GOG.
Loved that game..
Mine was bundled with a new PC I bought in 1994!
Hey! You mentioned El-Fish! I loved that "game." Still have my boxed copy. Unfortunate I can't get it to run on anything these days.
Great video!
Was the full game available on floppy disk or was it only on CD? I do remember playing a demo version of SC2K that I'm sure came on a CD somewhere. Can't remember if it was from the CD "Classic" version of the original SimCity for Windows that I remember buying in like 1998. Seems most likely. The only other disc coming to mind is this Sega PC demo disc I remember getting with the original boxed release of Sonic 3 PC, which I remember having like HyperCard and Klik 'n Play demos on it, which were as equally not Sega games.
I'm now curious about other SimCity things you found on eBay!
I had this for Macintosh, it came on a floppy attached to a Mac magazine. I definitely remember that demo city, I still have the save of it. But the Mac version I had definitely had sound.
Zone toons watching LGR? Always strange seeing unrelated RUclipsrs interacting.
This is the last place I ever expected to see you
It's this comment because Clint commented on one of the out of context SFW video?
Fancy seeing you here, Zone!
Holy cow what are you doing here
Holy shit, I played Sim City 2000 for years. How did I not know you could shoot the helicopter?
Nearly 30 years of ignorance. Man!!
I feel such a fool.
I never got to the Arcologies as a kid... but I did when I powergamed SC2k 8 years ago or so, finally learned how to properly played it. Turns out building an airport next to an Arcology can be a very bad idea...
@@ROTTERDXM I filled every square of the map with archolgies. Still never shot down a helicopter.
@@kildogery that's not what I meant... planes will crash into arcologies *every time* when taking off or landing if the arcology is right next to the airport, and the arcology is located one tile of elevation higher than the airport and in the path of the planes. Try it out some time ;)
Don't feel bad. I've got hundreds of hours in SC2K and I had no idea you could do that!
Wait...what?
@LGR Blerbs
Clint, I was working at a Software ETC at the time those demo floppies were available. You indeed had to make a purchase, but it was free with ANY purchase, including the $.99 bin items. We got a big box of them and after the first month we were instructed by the regional manager to just give them away. I tried the one you have in this video and was impressed by it! So much so that I was hyping people up for the SC2k release. I think we sold out of the full retail game the day is went live and sold through most of our second shipment a few days later. Good times!
Ahh, nice to know!
Shocked how a city builder back in the day would sell out so quickly. Then again, how many copies did they carry, usually?
@@Toonrick12 IIRC, our first shipment was 40 copies, our second was 60. That was Crossroads Mall in Salt Lake City back in the early 90's. Selling out of anything was really something back then.
@@lexluthermiester Do tell! That's like a whole shelf of boxes, right?
@@Toonrick12 We never kept them all on the shelf. Some on shelf, some in the back room. We were constantly heading back to get more the whole day.
Clint I would have loved to see what happens after 20 Minutes!
After 20 min the game plays Never Gonna Give You Up videoclip
@@sedme0 Yes, your copy of Microsoft Office will explode if you get to 20 minutes.
Me: "You had to pay for the demo? How lame."
Me a few seconds later: "If those were free I would have grabbed 50 of them and formatted them."
Someone scrounged for AOL disks.
I like it.
@@Penoatle I remember doing that, they never minded sending discs to the same address, same person, several times a month.
@@alastairward2774 , @Penoatle yeah remember having family members save them for me so I didn't have to buy floppies, memories.
1:16 Maybe they sized the case to accept a 5 1/4" disk as well, if that design is used for other things/formats? That manual looks about 5 1/4" size.
This is the correct answer. Practically everything was offered in both 5 1/4" and 3 1/2" in parallel at that time.
Ah demos, from a time when you couldn't afford the full game and had to make do with feature-limited, time-restricted demos... :P
Uuuuh...I'd love an OS/2+SimCity show and tell.
Me too
Hell yes
He did that in his main channel
I love how casually Clint just grabs the Japanese special edition for a simple size comparison.
oh, sim city content 😊👍
Wow, played in a shop long time ago, and remember clear
Has 20 minutes of limit time before the city was destroyed for the all events of destruction, but in these years can "delete" this limit time via Hex editor (need find in old groups for find this software)
1:40 of course Clint has the Sim City serial numbers committed to memory 🏘
sc2000.exe - There's a name I haven't heard in a long time.
Well of course I know him, it's me!
@@fryncyaryorvjink2140 «Oh boy, Im glad to see you!»
We gave those out with computer purchases at Circuit City if I remember correctly....but that was long ago when I was back in my teens.
Man, I remember Circuit City. Last thing I bought there was a hard copy of Battle Realms. It got turned into a Savers lol
I miss Circuit City if for no other reason than it provided another option for nationwide electronics retail. Now we only have, what, Best Buy? Where’s the competition?
@@FlippytheMasterofPie Though locations are limited nowadays, Fry’s Electronics is still a bastion for those browsing sessions reminiscent of expensive edutainment toy stores, Circuit City’s big-boxness and Radioshack’s electronic component selection (except way higher quality).
If anyone reading this is a Portland Retro Gaming Expo attendee, there’s a rather massive Fry’s in Wilsonville (16 miles SW of Portland). There’s also ‘Bullwinkle’s Miniature Golf’ and go karting there as well.
@@semuta2752 RIP Fry’s Electronics, now gone.
@@semuta2752 Fry’s just announced they were closing up shop effective immediately the other day. Can’t even go in the store to get clearance deals.
Siiiiggghhh
man, hearing that drive wake up when you hit enter on a: brought back sublime memories... haha
I don't know how many people found it, but way back in the day someone somewhere uploaded the full version of SC2000 to a university FTP, I think my first copy was that one downloaded. Wierd it was just there open to the public. Was there for a good while too. Bought it for real a while later on a budget label but I'm still amazed I found it like that. The old internet really was the wild west.
Clint, you are the Bob Ross of the video game world :)
@Jani Akujärvi exactly! I love this
Bob ross sucks, fucking boring ass bullshit
*goes to RCT World and some of his Sims reviews*
Devs don’t make mistakes, they just release happy accidents!
@@SevenCompleted damn he must be so boring that you had to edit your comment
@@carmenwinstead693 i added the part after the comma to clarify why he sucks
Your delight at the national guard and the random explosion at the end was so fantastic that I had to replay it several times. Authenticity!
Reminds me of the Spore creature creator that you could buy for a few bucks at checkout counters.
You mean the only good part of Spore?
@@aw4483 Pretty much yeah, and that at a fraction of the price minus the 5 times key activation limit
They also released the creature creator for free download!
@@kaitlyn__L I did not know that, but also internet in South Africa back then was a luxury (Can argue it still is) so I couldn't browse the net willy nilly back then unfortunately
I remember purchasing this game back in the early 90s and feeling so disappointed that my computer didn't even meet the minimum spec requirement, even with a boot disc. Never got to play it.
You weren't alone. Tons of games back then needed more memory than most people had in their home computer.
I shouldn't be seeing this video. I'm a recovered SimCity addict. This just makes me want to install Sim City 4 or... god help me! Cities Skylines again and waste more hours of my life on a neverending game.
SC4+RH is still a game I can lose hours in.
I never modded it either just the game and the expansion is a great sink.
@@Penoatle I love megacities so I need at least 2 mods: Air purifiers and trash removals. Yeah, it's cheating but your cities will look gorgeous and you won't have to worry about the pollution.
@@Angellmbrr It is not cheating. How can you cheat with art? It assists you in making the best city you can.
I am also assuming you did the fix to prevent crashing? I am glad something like that exists and is simple.
Don’t feel bad, I had this addiction to The Sims. Had the first sims along with all the expansion packs 😂. Then it went into The Sims 2 and all the expansion packs and 3. Stopped at 4, wasn’t a very big fan.
@@Angellmbrr The trash removal mod I had was a sprite of a ramp you attached to the side of the map. Apparently it just got shoved off into the void.
I bought one of these new at MEI MicroCenter in the 90s. It was located in the regular software section. And yes, I paid money for it. I think it was $3.00.
SimCity 2000... without "Reticulating Splines"!?!?! But yeah, without the sound & music, it just feels wrong.
Yeah, I can hear the bulldozing sound in my head despite the lack of sound.
Or the soundtrack. “Baaa daaa bada. Baa daa daa daa daa daa daa daaaaa daa daa dada.”
Ah yes, my childhood, when our home computers either didn't have soundcards, or nobody knew how to get them to work with videogames. That, or we didn't have speakers. So many videogames played without sounds. 😁
What does "Reticulating Splines" mean anyways?
I wonder, if you start the demo, then set the system clock back, could you get more than 20 mins?
you can shoot the heli?! :O
You can in the final game too.
I bought this exact demo cd at my local “All a Dollar” store. I had a little change left over from buying a full copy of Warcraft II
Nice! How much did you pay for it?
Even though I wasn't a super hardcore PC gamer...I still felt this
Got the original Warcraft on sale for like $10-15 when I was like 7 or 8 I think. Soooo pretty much the same price it is now 😂
@@FinestCitizen It was 1-3 dollars.. I can't remember the price exactly
I've been playing this game for 25 years and I never knew you could shoot down the helicopter... I know what I'm doing this evening.
I still dont understand why they havent released Simtower for ios or Android.
They did release Simtower on ios, not sure if it's on sale anymore but I did but it and play it.
Two letters, E & A.
because EA are corporate shitheads. if they ever release it, it's going to be a shitty freemium atrocity full to the brim with MTX, just like sim city build it
Yoot Tower (its spiritual successor) was available on iOS but for whatever reason it was pulled from the App Store. Kind of a shame, seeing as it has a native 64-bit build and everything.
@@CharlesAnjos EA doesn't own SimTower, it was just the localized name of a game not developed by Maxis. The sequel Yoot Tower (localized by Sega) was on iOS
Whenever I see SimCity 2000 I think of the "zzz zzz" UFO sound.
Before I saw the UFO part I thought Sim City just made you sleepy
I always loved to find these demos at stores as a kid. A buck or 2 to get something that downloading myself may not have always been possible and getting that "new game" feel on a whim
Hell YES! This was my first taste of SimCity waaaay back when.
Edit: They had this wrapped in plastic and with a little hang tag stuck to the back of it for like $2 on one of those end shelf display hanging things - like you see at the grocery store, at the local Compusmart computer/game store about 30 years ago...
That's so weird.
A retail demo from a game.
Never seen those before from any game.
Or maybe I've just been blind always and didn't see it. Heh. 😂
Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes was basically a retail demo for Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain. I can't think of any examples right now.
Shareware retail discs were essentially pay for demo discs
Sony used to sell Jampack demo discs for PS1 (and maybe PS2) for like $6
I still have a copy of ICO for PS 2 that I got from blockbusters.
I wonder how it'd react if you'd replace that democity.sc2 file with a save from the full game with stuff that isn't available in the demo.
Great video, I love SimCity 2000, great memories of playing it. I wonder if you save a city on the retail version, name it the same as the demo city if it'll load it, with the items that are locked out too?
I think the reason the helicopter didn't cause any fires is because it landed on an empty tile.
I got some retail disks like this before. they were usually like you said free with purchase or $0.99 ish.
I wonder if the different graphics were early version or if they were changed (in the demo) to ones with smaller file sizes.
SimCity 2000 was my jam as a kid, played it everywhere except at home since I did not own a copy of my own until years later. Also, Home of the Underdogs reference? Coolio.
I'm always down for some floppy action.
That is what she said.
I got that demo disk as bonus when I subscribed to the German magazine "PC Joker" back in I think March of 1994. Greetings from Hamburg, Germany. :)
I can confirm that the construction sprites you pointed out are not used in the full game, having spent some time staring at SC2K sprites for a project you covered in another Blerb. The game has 256 "building" assignments ("XBLD" values in the code), including things like roads, trees, the actual buildings, etc, and each of those 256 data values is used in-game; none are associated with anything that looks like the construction sprites you pointed out. My guess, given my limited knowledge, is that either the demo was completed before all the XBLD data was finalized, and those sprites were later removed; or, they used values associated with buildings they removed from the demo in order to include the extra construction sprites. Someone else may be able to correct me. Either way, great Blerb - always fun to see new SC2K content!
Crazy to think that some of the games we used to play for hours and hours came on two 3.5" Disks. I just downloaded the demo of a new game (Outriders) and the DEMO was 21GB. How times change.
Huh, I don't remember retail demos. I do remember buying the the shareware version of Quake at Kmart for $10 that could be unlocked by calling ID and buying key. Some unscrupulous people may have used cracks or key generators to get around that, but teenage me would never do such a thing. No, never.
I remember It was sold at Babbage's in the 1990's at the store near where I lived at. These demo disks were sold the front counter by the cash register.
I remember when my dad bought me this, I always had to wait till my mom got off the computer to play, she always took forever playing her POGO and Gamesville games. Especially 3 eyes bingo. Man brings back my childhood memories. Good ole days.
Clint, people who registered their games, would sometimes receive free demo discs from Maxis. I remember my father receiving that Simcity 2000 Demo disc in the mail from Maxis, along with a newsletter of sorts. I hope this helps!
I did find/buy a demo disk at best buy for the ps2 prince of persia as a kid. In hindsight I'm not sure why it existed. I suppose it was valuable marketing since prince of persia would be a lesser known property, but I imagine the sequel to sim city being valuable already
I bought the cd version together with my dad, playing it together, good times. He froze his pc, building a pyramid haha.
HOLY SHIT. I played this demo all the time as a kid on my family’s PowerBook 3400c. It was part of a demo pack cd I still have. I remember getting the full game for Christmas after begging my parents. Good times.
There's such a charm to the pixel-art SC2000 city buildings.
Yes, that 2x2 construction tile is definitely not in the full game. I played this so much as a child each pixel of this pixel art is seared into my brain, that is definitely different!
This was the first PC game I've ever played. Very fun game at the time, and one of the best looking.
My favorite demo disk was the 4-disk demo for Tie Fighter. It started you off right in the middle of a basic mission and it was pretty awesome. The fun part was that it was a bit glitchy, so sometimes when you started it, your tie fighter would have concussion missiles, or some other weird shit would happen from time to time.
Back then you paid $ for a demo with the full game available for more. Today you pay full price for a half baked game and eventually it becomes playable.
If you try looking up the UPC sometimes you can find records that way I've done it a time or two on old things
I played this in 98 for the first time on the Sega Saturn.
I love that version.
Loved the Snes version.
Imagine fitting a whole game like that nowadays under 1.44 megabytes. Even a low sprite game like Super Meatball is 500mb installed. Edit: to be fair they left off a big chunk of the game to make it fit, but still...
I remember Cave Story was designed to fit on an NES cartridge so similar to a floppy.
There's a game Called kkringer which is 96kb. You can download for windows (works upto 10). It creates sprite by program code.
And speciality of this game is it's 3d fps game and it was made in 2004
BLERB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Someone probably already mentioned this, but shooting down the helicopter doesn't cause a fire if you have "No Disasters" enabled, which this demo city does by default.
I saw this on the SimAnt CD and it came on my mac performa 5260/120, but that was the full version :)
Now remember, we have exactly 1 fire.
A couple years ago I wrote an extractor for SimCity graphics (all of them, not just what SCURK allows). If I find the time I'll see if I can dig through the data files from this, as now I'm interested in what else might be different.
Had a chance to look at the tile graphics. There wasn't much different besides what was already pointed out. The most notable thing is that one of the residential 3x3 buildings has extra features and the drive in theater has a blank screen instead of the ant animation. I've uploaded a sprite sheet to Spriter's Resource of the significant changes I could find if anyone is interested.
What happened at the 20 minute mark? Any pop-up alerts, or were you just booted out?
the power plant explodes.
Supports Pro Audio Spectrum. ✔️
"This is SimCopter 1, reporting heavy traffic."
So many memories from my early teens - so many hours after homework did I play this game :D Trip down Memory Lane for sure :) (on an old TOSHIBA CDS Laptop - or at least, I THINK it was a CDS)
I’m on a mission to buy everything simcity this year, only the base games for right now, I have the gba(simcity3000) and first snes one(sim city)
Always great to see a new LGR video on my recommendations.
Blerrrb, for me
I remember playing this demo on the Mac. The 20-minute demo. It came on a disc called, 1000 Games in one.
Cool.
SVGA with 512K was not your base configuration in 1993. VGA with 256K was more common.
Saw stuff like this (probably even saw one of these) at CompUSA when I was a teenager. Definitely at the little spinning rack thing by the check-out lanes...Most of that stuff was like $2 to $5. Sometimes these were also free to pick from when you bought a big-box game. They just had a display with five or so different demos to pick from when you got a real game. I remember getting a Quake II demo.
I remember this came bundled with an AST computer I had access to in 1993/1994.
What happens if you inport Democity into the full version of SimCity 2000?
a bit off topic but in case anyone agrees....
anyone played the latest demo of the new system shock ?
well, that demo sold me on the game, and now i wonder why the heck doesn't more studios make any kind of demos no more ? it is nice to have a taste of the game before u pay like $40 to $60 out of ur hard earned cash , u can also see if the game runs fine, thankfully system shock ran in 60fps (mostly) and i liked that....
wish more demos are made, u can some fun for free and maybe shell some money knowing u will have a good time.
miss shareware, those days were awesome!
Thank you so much for actually sharing the floppy disk image! Many people don't care to do this!
I was playing that after school on our 486 DXII before my parents got home from work, when I heard on the radio that Kurt Kobane killed himself. Infact I just started a Cities: Skylines Industries map this morning. LOL Nothing beats that SIERRA and MAXIS intro though for nostalgia. I can hear intro over those Logitech PC speakers. Privateer was one of my all time favorites... Sim City of course... Roger Wilco(Space Quest series... and The Kings Quest ones.) Police quest too. I bought SWAT but it didn't work on out PC so I just admired the box. We had Longbow, ACES over europe, and Pacific. Microsoft Flight sims, and combat flight sims... and of course DOOM, Quakes, Duke Nuk'em... my dad loved the shooters.
I guess the system requirements on the sleeve are for the full game since it mentions sound cards there.
I like how often demos were earlier version of games. Age of Empires 1 had some short, unique campaigns which weren't in the full version and you could see how some of the maps were later tweaked and changed around.
I have a Maxis Sampler Disc from 1997, which features loads of little demos from the Dark Age, along with a fun preview of the lost 3D SimCity 3000. I'll dig it up, I hope I didn't box it up with my other CD-ROMs.
Never played SC2K but since you mentioned OS/2, having played both I found that SimCity Classic for OS/2 was slightly better than SimCity Classic for Windows just in terms of visuals and game play.
Hi! First time commenting. Never seen the demo disk, but my brother did have SC2K for the SNES, which ran slow enough. Anyway, I always like the videos you make. God bless!
Come on, stop lying about it being just slightly different enough to do a Blerb....
It was just exactly SimCity enough to do a video about it no matter what.
=P
Peace Clint and thanks!