@@heatherryan9820they are really quite difficult to tear, waterproof (also leaving in ur pocket in the washing machine proof), they dont catch fire easily, hard to reproduce and counterfit, easier to sanitize, etc, lots of advantages when you think about it😅
My great grandma in hospice on her deathbed found a paper cup was better than the hearing aid that she paid tons of money to all of those years. "This is the best I've been able to hear in years" as we spoke to her, we all laughed so hard. If only we also had the paper cone 😂
That was a really cool episode. Music has always been a big part of my life, and I've always been fascinated with the way lp's and records work. But I have to say, your 'copyright-free impression' at the end takes the cake. That was great.
Dude, just come over to my apartment. My grandmother left me her hand-cranked Victorola, and the thing pretty much uses what looks like carpet nails for a needle.
When I was about 14, I used a piece of ordinary paper. Just hold a letter-size piece of paper, by one short end, and put a curve in it, to make it sturdier. Then, place one corner in the groove and voila!
I first heard Ryer's voice going all the way back to when he was an intern at ICS. It never occurred to me until this exact moment I had no idea what he looked like and this is not at all what I expected It should have been, to be clear. He looks like he should.
4:15 he said valleys and pits; vinyl is encoded in analogue so its one groove that moves "left or right" unlike a cd that reads vertically with a laser to measure what points of the disk are "raised" "up"
Somethings gotta improve soon. At least when whiskey mom and dad split over on the tribe and vault channel we got a clear explanation and their content didn't really take much of a hit. Meanwhile here we're still in a fog as to what is going on?
@@Kannushi5 yeah, I honestly think he’ll pull the plug once this channel’s contract with Squarespace is up, then he’ll just focus on the podcast(s) and the store and prioritize shorts for engagement and ride the revenue the back catalog of both channels give him.
Few people know this but when Beethoven started to go deaf he used to put a rod into his piano that would hook to his jaw so that he can feel the frequencies as he played
So what I’m seeing is that if you have a lazy Susan, a needle, and a cup, you don’t even need a record player 😮 I’d be curious to see the record play while spinning on a grinder or lathe 😀
I've listened to too much Knocked Loose because every time I hear an old song slowed down and warbling/crackling like that I expect it to just burst into caveman chugs
First, Ryer is dope. Second, as a "gramophone entusiast" I just want to give moderate warning. Your old 78's were designed to be used with soft disposable needles. The needle companies said to use needles only once then sling them, now of course this was marketing its alright to use them two or three times but thats it. The shellac of the record is very hard so the idea was that you wear the needle out not the record. Modern sewing needles are harder than shellac so don't put too much pressure on them if you do this and definitely don't use a sewing needle in an old gramophone/phonograph. You could also make needles out of rose wood, if you split it down to about 3mm and cut a 45 degree point on them they'd be hard enough to play 1 side without wearing out the record, but you have a lot more debris to wipe off the record. Point is, as always on the modern rogue, when SHTF get an old ass gramophone and some old shellac records and that should be your entertainment because you can theoretically play music with no electricity or industrially made needles.
The entire first point is inaccuracies but leads to the same end result. The record here is an edison diamond disc, they are designed to he be played with a specialty cut vertical diamond stylus on an edison style machine, playing one with a steel needle will do irreversible damage
Upon further research, the "one from the 60s" (actually 1951-1965) was called "Watch Mr. Wizard". So my old person joke has blown up in my face, so to speak.
every sense is just touch, hearing as explained, sight is photons touching receptors, taste and smell are chemicals touching sensors in the mouth and nose...
Some of us did stealth 45 & LP playing that way when we only had one record player. You’re all whippersnappers. You should invite Walcom7 again & ask him about Tamiya Mini4x4s You’d have fun building a circuit.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, RUclips for the love of everything on this planet please don’t let this channel die… these guys have always been my favorite duo.
can we give the channel a break. just because one of the hosts no longer wants to be part of it doesn't mean we can bash them over and over again. its been a bit already, let brain work with his guests for now. if your from scam school like me, then you will remember that Jason was seen there as a guest only at first. maybe someone else will try and fill his spot after awhile
The issue is not just that Jason left with no word (although being left in the dark about it definitely isn't helping), the problem is the quality of the videos went WAY down since he left. They were just reading articles for a few months. So far removed from the "science-adjacent" channel we used to love. This specific video is more of the style we've come to expect from the channel, so if they keep doing this (and we're officially told Jason moved on to work on personal projects) I think people will start to be more understanding.
Come on people. Jason left TMR on good terms. Appreciate the new direction they're going in. At least they're trying to entertain all of us with new ideas
I must agree: we all ABSOLUTELY LOVE JASON, but if he wanted to pursue his own projects after contributing so much to The Modern Rogue, congratulations to him. We will miss him, absolutely, and we would be THRILLED if he made guest-appearances here and there still, but we’ve got to be happy for him and realize that the Modern Rogue, while changed, is still the great channel we’ve all grown to know, love, and follow. #TheModernRogueRules.
So that's what happened! I didn't realize that he's completely gone now. I assumed that he was taking a break or something. Makes sense why the videos have been boring.
@@JakeAutis-fn7pw From the little information that Brian shared over the last year or two it seems that most people involved in production left because the Modern Rogue fell into financial trouble.
This was a great episode, another Modern Rogue classic! This is phenomenal content. 🥰 While we all ABSOLUTELY LOVE JASON, we must all recognize that, if he wanted to pursue his own projects after contributing so much to The Modern Rogue, we should offer congratulations to him. 👏 We will miss him, absolutely, and we would be THRILLED if he made guest-appearances here and there still, but we’ve got to be happy for him and realize that the Modern Rogue, while changed, is still the great channel we’ve all grown to know, love, and follow. 😎 #TheModernRogueRules
I was expecting, "Your mission, should you choose to accept it,...." ... wait I skipped, shit... " ... this recording will self destruct in 5 seconds." Wait no wait wait wait wait!
@@Boneyard1no, he was laid off. Brian had to let most of the crew go because he literally couldn’t afford to write the checks. Look at Great Night 137 at about 1:11:00
@@Boneyard1 same. I saw that and it made me lose all respect for Brian. Watching it, it even looked like Justin then and there was blindsided by this information and was kinda trying to run damage control in real time while processing that his friend may be a POS, especially at the part where Brian talked about having crew more or less work for free, outside of food and housing. It, to me, looked like Justin was debating walking off that episode.
They make things to push needles through I think. Would a thimble work? I used one but the needle would slide alot. Maybe I should make a thimble made specifically for pushing through harder stuff
I did this as a kid with just a sewing needle, paper, tape, and a pencil...we spun the record like a top by putting the pencil through it...don't need a record player at all!
I remember doing this as a kid, with my bro, who said 'Listen to this!' and he's playing one of my mothers Barry Manilow records, dancing like an idiot.
Should have tried hot gluing the needle into the cup, then hot gluing a semi open cone in the cup as well. put some metal washers in the cup for weight and magnet it to the stand.
2:02 WTF is this guy talking about? There's no "44" in records. There's 33, 45, and 78 RPM, and this is a 78. 4:28 and then he doesn't know whether a modern record is a 33 or a 78? How is he supposed to be any sort of an expert on this subject when he doesn't know the absolute basics of it?
The ironic fact is that you are harshly lambasting this dude for not knowing the intricacies of record collecting, and yet the record in question isn't even a 78. It's in edison dimond disc which is a completely different category of recording all together. We should seek to educate not to beat people down.
I tried this with my younger brother like a week ago. your timing couldn't have been more amazing. he actually made a short about this.
You can use plastic money bills, like we have in Canada. Just hold it still and put the corner on the record. It's really crazy
I have played money by pink floyd using a plastic £5 note
I didn't know that Canada has plastic bills. That's really interesting. I wonder why Canada decided to make theirs plastic?
@@heatherryan9820They're supposed to be really durable, and (theoretically) maybe harder to counterfeit.
@@heatherryan9820they are really quite difficult to tear, waterproof (also leaving in ur pocket in the washing machine proof), they dont catch fire easily, hard to reproduce and counterfit, easier to sanitize, etc, lots of advantages when you think about it😅
@nerd20fromdiscord That's really cool, if for no other reason than it's easier to sanitize. I think that alone makes it worth it.
Hearing the needle transmit intermittently had some war-time walkie-talkie vibes to it.
The ol' foxhole radio
My great grandma in hospice on her deathbed found a paper cup was better than the hearing aid that she paid tons of money to all of those years. "This is the best I've been able to hear in years" as we spoke to her, we all laughed so hard. If only we also had the paper cone 😂
This MUST be how they play the "on hold" music over the phone. Sounds identical.
That was a really cool episode. Music has always been a big part of my life, and I've always been fascinated with the way lp's and records work. But I have to say, your 'copyright-free impression' at the end takes the cake. That was great.
all these "wheres jason" "whens he coming back"
but not a single soul ballsy enough to ask *h o w s* jason
I saw a comment in the video about his new channel asking if his RFID implant still works.
according to his channel he's busy moving and job hunting as of 5 days ago
He got fired
@@CruelQuertos No, he didn't, he's just stepped away to work on his own projects
Dude, just come over to my apartment. My grandmother left me her hand-cranked Victorola, and the thing pretty much uses what looks like carpet nails for a needle.
That's no vinyl turntable that's a shellac record gramophone
This is how the aliens are gonna listen to that golden record and find Earth's location.
I really have enjoyed everything the Rogues have done over the years good to see they're still standing after all this time.
When I was about 14, I used a piece of ordinary paper. Just hold a letter-size piece of paper, by one short end, and put a curve in it, to make it sturdier. Then, place one corner in the groove and voila!
Wow man, flashbacks from one of my grade school science fair projects. The paper cone works so well, I used solo cups, also had the cups and string.
Happy to see the channel bounce back!!! Shame Murphy isn’t here anymore though
I wish they’d at least address it
@@michaelhenderson6786 I saw Brian addressed it in a podcast episode, it was posted to the subreddit a while ago
@@emarino9805 whats the tldr of it?
@@emarino9805 What happened to him?
@@emarino9805 Where'd he go
Awesome, love little projects like this that one can do at home
I have for my great-grandfather some old Edison records a collection of about five It's really cool to see them on this video.
Edison diamond discs are meant to be played at 80rpm
I first heard Ryer's voice going all the way back to when he was an intern at ICS. It never occurred to me until this exact moment I had no idea what he looked like and this is not at all what I expected
It should have been, to be clear. He looks like he should.
4:15 he said valleys and pits; vinyl is encoded in analogue so its one groove that moves "left or right" unlike a cd that reads vertically with a laser to measure what points of the disk are "raised" "up"
Instantly knew what song he was gonna play when i saw the Record cover! Thats everyones Go to Fleetwood Mac song!
Seeing these here view counts. Looks like thr modern Rouge days are numbered....
What happened to Jason don't see him any more?
Somethings gotta improve soon. At least when whiskey mom and dad split over on the tribe and vault channel we got a clear explanation and their content didn't really take much of a hit. Meanwhile here we're still in a fog as to what is going on?
Look at Great Night 137 at about 1:11:00. Long story short, Brian screwed the pooch big time.
@@InfernalBanana I just watched it. That's horrible. Yeah, channel is pretty much dead... didn't realize it was limping along so bad for so long.
@@Kannushi5 yeah, I honestly think he’ll pull the plug once this channel’s contract with Squarespace is up, then he’ll just focus on the podcast(s) and the store and prioritize shorts for engagement and ride the revenue the back catalog of both channels give him.
Few people know this but when Beethoven started to go deaf he used to put a rod into his piano that would hook to his jaw so that he can feel the frequencies as he played
So what I’m seeing is that if you have a lazy Susan, a needle, and a cup, you don’t even need a record player 😮
I’d be curious to see the record play while spinning on a grinder or lathe 😀
I've listened to too much Knocked Loose because every time I hear an old song slowed down and warbling/crackling like that I expect it to just burst into caveman chugs
First, Ryer is dope. Second, as a "gramophone entusiast" I just want to give moderate warning. Your old 78's were designed to be used with soft disposable needles. The needle companies said to use needles only once then sling them, now of course this was marketing its alright to use them two or three times but thats it. The shellac of the record is very hard so the idea was that you wear the needle out not the record. Modern sewing needles are harder than shellac so don't put too much pressure on them if you do this and definitely don't use a sewing needle in an old gramophone/phonograph.
You could also make needles out of rose wood, if you split it down to about 3mm and cut a 45 degree point on them they'd be hard enough to play 1 side without wearing out the record, but you have a lot more debris to wipe off the record. Point is, as always on the modern rogue, when SHTF get an old ass gramophone and some old shellac records and that should be your entertainment because you can theoretically play music with no electricity or industrially made needles.
The entire first point is inaccuracies but leads to the same end result. The record here is an edison diamond disc, they are designed to he be played with a specialty cut vertical diamond stylus on an edison style machine, playing one with a steel needle will do irreversible damage
This is just so cool
Can I get a mixtape of your record scratch samples plz
Mind blown!
Sing with me! Sing with me! Sing with me!
Re. scratching the record: would a plastic needle or toothpick avoid that?
Kinda sounds like the lavender town music lol
I came here to comment the same thing
Cool fun video dudes
@11:20 Mr. Wizard's World from the 80s or the 60s? lol
Upon further research, the "one from the 60s" (actually 1951-1965) was called "Watch Mr. Wizard". So my old person joke has blown up in my face, so to speak.
If you play modern vinyl on a Crosley, it will sound like this. 3:10
Art teacher in high school showed us this.
you should do a video on meshtastic if you liked ham radio you will definitely like meshtastic + you dont need a license to use it
every sense is just touch, hearing as explained, sight is photons touching receptors, taste and smell are chemicals touching sensors in the mouth and nose...
This must be how they felt discovering it for the first time.
Some of us did stealth 45 & LP playing that way when we only had one record player.
You’re all whippersnappers.
You should invite Walcom7 again & ask him about Tamiya Mini4x4s
You’d have fun building a circuit.
Did that as a kid back in the 90s, might have ruined my dad's original Metallica and iron maiden LPs
Next, you need to move onto the diy tape heads made from wire wrapped around a washer.
Boredom can be a wonderful thing 😊
wait until they see what an AM radio tower can do.
As neat as this is, what's the point of the video? If the arm on your record player breaks you can improv a fix?
Salt Pork, Ryer!
my schools robotics team just won a competition
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, RUclips for the love of everything on this planet please don’t let this channel die… these guys have always been my favorite duo.
it's not youtube's fault, they made bad financial decisions
@@TheAechBomb how?
I love the enthusiasm but the sheer lack of knowledge on display is frustrating.
second most fun time I've experienced watching someone ruin Aerosmith records
Awesome video Brian I hope to one day be a guest on your show.
Wouldn’t that be bad for the record?
Very bad!
Oh cool Ryer. But he’s no Doug.
Comments have been nasty but I'm still enjoying the MR vibe
can we give the channel a break. just because one of the hosts no longer wants to be part of it doesn't mean we can bash them over and over again. its been a bit already, let brain work with his guests for now. if your from scam school like me, then you will remember that Jason was seen there as a guest only at first. maybe someone else will try and fill his spot after awhile
The issue is not just that Jason left with no word (although being left in the dark about it definitely isn't helping), the problem is the quality of the videos went WAY down since he left. They were just reading articles for a few months. So far removed from the "science-adjacent" channel we used to love.
This specific video is more of the style we've come to expect from the channel, so if they keep doing this (and we're officially told Jason moved on to work on personal projects) I think people will start to be more understanding.
Those poor records
I know. I felt bad, too.
This video is totally bogus!
this sucks with just you, dude :/
when you have a working record player but no record needle, for some reason. lol.
Come on people. Jason left TMR on good terms. Appreciate the new direction they're going in. At least they're trying to entertain all of us with new ideas
When did he leave and why? Just curious
@@cardpopcorn13 he wanted to pursue his own projects. He has his own channel called The Strangerous
@@cardpopcorn13 Brian explained in a podcast segment that the channel was out of money and they had to me mass layoffs
I must agree: we all ABSOLUTELY LOVE JASON, but if he wanted to pursue his own projects after contributing so much to The Modern Rogue, congratulations to him. We will miss him, absolutely, and we would be THRILLED if he made guest-appearances here and there still, but we’ve got to be happy for him and realize that the Modern Rogue, while changed, is still the great channel we’ve all grown to know, love, and follow. #TheModernRogueRules.
So that's what happened! I didn't realize that he's completely gone now. I assumed that he was taking a break or something. Makes sense why the videos have been boring.
jason is gone remove him from the channel icon, i still love and miss him
@@JakeAutis-fn7pw From the little information that Brian shared over the last year or two it seems that most people involved in production left because the Modern Rogue fell into financial trouble.
He's still in most of their videos though.
He worked for that.
yes, but he is doing his own thing now
@@Basilmomentright but hes no longer a face of the channel which is kinda what the pfps are for
@@Basilmomenthe's in the shorts, which were just cut from old videos
Personally representing the audiophiles having a panic attack.
This was a great episode, another Modern Rogue classic! This is phenomenal content. 🥰 While we all ABSOLUTELY LOVE JASON, we must all recognize that, if he wanted to pursue his own projects after contributing so much to The Modern Rogue, we should offer congratulations to him. 👏 We will miss him, absolutely, and we would be THRILLED if he made guest-appearances here and there still, but we’ve got to be happy for him and realize that the Modern Rogue, while changed, is still the great channel we’ve all grown to know, love, and follow. 😎 #TheModernRogueRules
..... you okay bro?
@@johnsmitty Yeah, I’m ok: thanks for asking and for the thought, I appreciate it greatly. :)
Stephen Tyler is turning in his grave right now. 😂
I was expecting, "Your mission, should you choose to accept it,...." ... wait I skipped, shit... " ... this recording will self destruct in 5 seconds." Wait no wait wait wait wait!
If Jason has let, please update the channel photo and bio.
Ryer is the tshirt cannon maker!!!!!!
All of my worlds are colliding!!
Where Jason?
He quit
@@Boneyard1no, he was laid off. Brian had to let most of the crew go because he literally couldn’t afford to write the checks. Look at Great Night 137 at about 1:11:00
@@InfernalBanana thanks for the heads up..... Unsubscribed now.
@@Boneyard1 same. I saw that and it made me lose all respect for Brian. Watching it, it even looked like Justin then and there was blindsided by this information and was kinda trying to run damage control in real time while processing that his friend may be a POS, especially at the part where Brian talked about having crew more or less work for free, outside of food and housing. It, to me, looked like Justin was debating walking off that episode.
Records will always be pure magic to me. It doesn't seem possible but it is
They make things to push needles through I think. Would a thimble work? I used one but the needle would slide alot. Maybe I should make a thimble made specifically for pushing through harder stuff
Haven’t been here in a while. It’s not the same. Went the same direction as whiskey tribe
Please do an episode about method acting and the while stories that come with that!
Well… it’s better than being bombarded with shorts. At least this is new content.
This is awesome
I did this as a kid with just a sewing needle, paper, tape, and a pencil...we spun the record like a top by putting the pencil through it...don't need a record player at all!
I remember doing this as a kid, with my bro, who said 'Listen to this!' and he's playing one of my mothers Barry Manilow records, dancing like an idiot.
Don't Edison records require a different player then the standard record player?
Should have tried hot gluing the needle into the cup, then hot gluing a semi open cone in the cup as well. put some metal washers in the cup for weight and magnet it to the stand.
6:58 Can you just appreciate the talent that it takes to make such a noise come from one's mouth?
Oh my god it feels like Im learning now and i still love it what did you do to me brushwood
I remember this as science experiment as a kid
15:03 so thats how they do hold music
Wow! That's an amazing episode! love you guys
2:02 WTF is this guy talking about? There's no "44" in records. There's 33, 45, and 78 RPM, and this is a 78. 4:28 and then he doesn't know whether a modern record is a 33 or a 78? How is he supposed to be any sort of an expert on this subject when he doesn't know the absolute basics of it?
Heh. Ryer misspoke. No worries.
The ironic fact is that you are harshly lambasting this dude for not knowing the intricacies of record collecting, and yet the record in question isn't even a 78. It's in edison dimond disc which is a completely different category of recording all together. We should seek to educate not to beat people down.
....im blown away that anyone actually thought jason added anything to the show... He was consistently the worst part of every episode for me