SOUL IS SHINRA'S SON?! The Ancestors of Soul Eater and Fire Force Explained
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- soul eater has many references in this series and the fire force devil himself shinra has finally shown up The fire force anime ended a while ago and now all we have are hopes and prayers for fire force season 3 in this fire force explained video or fire force analysis our fire force chapter review this takes place way after fire force arthur vs dragon the manga has been building up to hell for quite sometime and now we finally have it and can see the fire force demon in full glory this is definitely something to mention in terms of the recent fire force news and the connection to soul eater where we see fire force excalibur finally make his way to the scene and we see the best character in fire force arthur use him in combat making it one of the best fire force moments and best fire force fights to date and fire force badass moments once it is animated I hope we see a lot of in compilations and a fire force top 10 in the future also listen to the fire force opening and the fire force ending they are catchy tamaki is a waifu fire force chapter 304 and fire force chapter 302 is crazy Fire Force is a Japanese manga series written and illustrated by Atsushi Ōkubo. It has been serialized in Kodansha's Weekly Shōnen Magazine since September 2015, and collected into 31 tankōbon volumes as of October 2021. In North America, the manga has been licensed for English language release by Kodansha USA
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Complete fan theory but what if Excalibur’s 1,000 demands for a prospective Meister are because he feels no one could really replace Arthur (or if they could they have to be truly exceptional). It would be an interesting twist if Excalibur’s obnoxious personality might be partly because he misses Arthur
That would be cute
Idc what anyone says it’s cannon to me now thanks
Personally I think the 1000 demands for a Meister was Arthur's routine or what was happening in a normal day in Arthur's brain
@@purpleguy97355 this is valid as well
@[_______] exactly. I think Arthur told him to be so harsh in order to make sure only the best of people get their hands on him. A weapon that has standards and morals, one that can't be used for evil.
Death the kid is also technically Shinras descendant since he was made in Shinras image by Death, that means that Shinra was a god twice now, the author really loves Shinra or Death the kid
Yeah. He said that in the video
well yes its shinras grandson
I think soul is Sho’s descendent
Death the kid was just willed into existence and homies hair still screwed up
No
Soul eater deserves the FMA brotherhood treatment I’ll be waiting for the day 😮💨
@Bryce Theobald source ?
Soul Eater: Resonance
that would be dark, the manga is wildly different than the anime for soul eater. a lot darker with more killing
@@laing4045 that's what people want
@@dgrogan8423 yes i want to see black star beat everyone
Hero is definitely related to Authur. Although, I wish we got to see someone ask Authur what it's like having Excalibur, just so we see that ick face from Soul Eater.
What's kinda sad though, hero could've been the strongest in the dwma but he put excalibur back.. because excalibur got a cold.. he could deal with everything else but no he can't deal with a little guy with a head cold. 😤
I'm still to this day thinking wtf dude you got rid of a bada$$ legendary weapon boi after meeting all requirements all cuz the little guy got the sniffles.
I think Inca’s most likely descendant based off looks would be Kim Diehl. They both have that pink hair blue eye color and also Kim is confirmed to be a witch in soul eater not. Also the weapon she uses is fire based as well even using it as a broom to fly around on.
Kim is a witch in the Soul Eater manga as well.
Plus they're a lot alike personality wise. Before Inca joined the evangelist she used to bribe people out of money to protect them from ongoing fires. Kim is also a money hungry character.
Yeah that was my first thought as well Inca being Kim's ancestor the pink hair is very striking
I think it Inca could be Kim too but i would also think about Crona
Spirit is obviously the descendant of Scythe, the man at the bar from when Assault was doing his training to take on Tamaki.
Scythe had a daughter called Makami
@@isramubashar5080 I said descendant, not son.
What you mean?
We see this guy in a bar who some ladies refer to as 'Scythe'
Our friend Scythe is upset about his daughter disliking him, he calls this daughter by the name 'Makami'
What exactly is the problem here?
@@isramubashar5080 Descendant does not mean immediate family
@@KhiemNguyen-ly1wz I know that, I never said that
I wish we had a prequel to fire force where they showed us how the characters lived straight after death was created.
At the end of FF it mentions a new series called Soul World
@@aethqr9647 yeah if they follow through with that then it’ll be a banger. Fire force was an amazing manga. After finishing it just now I’m definitely gonna rewatch soul eater. I hope they follow through with it.
that would be so funny ngl, it would be just watch us living our life right now but with a manga style
@@aethqr9647 no Ohkubo is done making manga he was just stating that they are now in the soul eater world
@@kotatheboata they won’t ohkubo said he’s done
“And they both wear glasses 🤓” love it
to be fair... bad eyesight can be inherited... so... it is not a totally bonkers argument.
I was crying so hard when soul eater ended now hearing all this and knowing that there is a bigger story behind it all is so uplifting
when I look at Free he reminds me of Capt Obi. Other similarities such as
Jericho - Pan
Kilik - Ogun
Hero - Arthur
Liz and Patty - Sister Iris and Shinra
Tsubaki and Masamune - Benimaru and vice Capt Konro, Yu
Stein - Hinawa, Licht, Joker
Maki - Marie
Spirit - Vulcan, Lisa
Black Star - Assault
Ox - Asako Hague
Kim - Inca
Joe - Huo Yan Li, Burns
Black Star is a descendant of Rekka tho
@@brushido4641 could be possible that assault's descendant married a star clan member.
@@brushido4641 Black star is speculated to be a descendent of Rekka...it's not officially confirmed
This is all speculation based on the idea that everyone in soul eater has a known descendent in Fire Force
@@Jo_youwhatmate well , that's the point of the epilogue. Otherwise it would be pointless to show so much about descendant x)
@Satan but you can call me Joey Rekkas last name and Black Stars family name are similar, Hoshi I think.
Tbh, there are 800 (probably way more) years between Soul eater and FF. Many characters could have multiple ancestors from Fire Force.
But I definitely see some resemblances.
Sho-Soul
Rekka-Black Star
Arthur-Hero
Iris- Thompson sisters (probably Shinra too even if they don't look alike )
Konro-Tsubaki and her brother
Kurono-Medusa(probably the ancestor of the Gorgon sisters )
I think Eibon is either Yu (the doll he was holding) or one of his descendants.
Soul could also just be shinras descendant considering that his descendants could just get the same look as shou after a while(shou could also resemble a ancestor of his)
Then why is scythe in season 2 ep 18 of FIREFORCE crying about how Maka doesnt want to talk to him in the next booth? .. She does that for 800 years? Seems they happen at the same time to me.
@@ryuvereignnolife3980 I agree with this
It was 10 years after fire force
@@JustSomeoneWatchingYou Inca is the first witch and witches have existed since at least 800 years before Soul eater main time-line
Rekka would also be akane hoshi's ancestor aswell since the star clan and hoshi clan used to be one and akane has the star eyes aswell
Also rekka last name is hoshimiya, just remove the Miya part and you just got hoshi
I have a weird feeling soul world will have characters from fireforce return in some new mechanic.. Like maybe something death can do, bringing the souls out of storage so to speak.
He did take their souls at the end, which resulted in them losing their fire powers.
Thus having them return as defenders of sorts, soul defenders. Either that or he does some soul thing to make the souls being revealed to be his initial soul weapons which he brings out during a special event.
Yes part 2 please. This is an interesting topic.
I always thought Kimial Diehl and Crona resemble Inca, while Maka and Crona having some resembles to Haumea.
Tbh as soon as I saw Benimaru in Fire Force, I thought of Spirit
Hm I could tell immediately soul is connected to sho and shines definatley. I believe soul has similar demon attributes as him. Who knows maybe he can somehow use the Adolla link!?? But his son…that would be crazy interesting . I can not wait for SE 2 and seeing the true connection. Pretty good connections I like
Medusa also kinda looks like Orochi and she had a move called Medusa whip
Here me out i think liz and patty is a descendent of arthur (or one of his siblings) they have a really similar face
This is a loose point as well but when arthur shinra and iris are together in vulcans arc they all have similarities to death the kids group.
Iris and shinra look like patty and kid and arthur has a resemblance to liz
Stein = joker in my eyes honestly
There's also Shinra's and Arthur's sons on last chapter's page 16, most likely Shinra's and Iris' son
And also Syd as a possible Ogun descendant or Stein being actually a Licht descendant
Maka - I think actually is descended from Haumea and could give reason to her Anti-Demon Wavelength
Soul - Definitely Sho
Black Star - Rekka
Tsubaki - I wanna say this one is Maki
Kid - Told to be made in Shinra's image
Liz & Patty - They give me Hibana and Iris vibes
Kilik - Ogun for sure
Ox - Maybe Vulcan, just based on what he looks like with hair and the Kim story
Kim - Inca, no doubt
Spirit - I'd say based on his posture to walk around with his hands in his pockets, hairstyle, and constant drinking, I'd give him Benimaru genetics
Stein - This one is really hard, but if mannerisms are anything to go off then Joker feels the most like him, or if Stein and Benimaru were related I wouldn't be surprised
Marie - Probably descendant of Iris
Medusa - Kurono, the most snake like character
Blair - If she were to have a human ancestor then this is where I'd put Tamaki
Honestly think Licht became Eibon, becoming the Madness of Knowledge, but if not having connection to Crona makes sense. Arthur, aside from Hero, I can't match him with anyone from Soul Eater easily. Obi I actually have no idea as his face, build and mannerisms don't appear unless Free the Werewolf counts. Hinawa and Lisa I just put with their respective partners Maki and Vulcan. But since at least 800 years have passed between end of Fire Force and beginning of Soul Eater as 800 years prior is when :"Demon Weapons" were created, so bloodlines could have been diluted by the time Soul Eater starts
GACHI- AKUTA ( THE SAID MIDDLE STORY OF FIRE FORCE AND SOUL EATER) OHKUBO-sensei passed down the baton to his assistant/succesor
Soul could also be shinra decendant due to his features also him having white hair does not mean he can only be sho decendant remember sho and shinra are brothers meaning shinra can also carry white hair gene also remember that soul was the one actually performing the soul resonate was soul not Maka she was just using the power soul made.
sprit can be form beimaur dud spirt show up in fire force they cal himj death styhe in bar place so there no way he be form benemaur whn he all reday ecist in fire forve
and fire froc eall made big plot hole if lord death can remcvoe fpwoe form some one wya fuck did he not sue tha abity on the ksihn to steel has pwoer
@@sesanokamura7311 srsly
I think Inca is still alive in soul eater
And she is the head of the witches
Fire and thunder from Soul eater should be Haumea and Charons descendants. Thunder has electricity like Haumea's plasma and Fire has fire from Charon. They also have a similar eye design to Haumea too.
Honestly you could say Stein is related to Kurono both characters enjoy hurting things
I wouldve assumed Maka was a descendant of Haumea tbh, and Blair as a descendant Tamaki.
yout jokeing right maka lookni liek hauema nro dos maka mother
Both of them being fan service characters and having catlike aesthetics ow shit!!! Why didn’t I see it
Blair it's a cat, a literal 9 lives magic monster cat, I don't think she descends from any person
I honestly don't see the characters being descendents of each other making sense to the lore of both Soul Eater and Fire Force
It takes place in the same universe it makes the most sense that some people might be related seeing as how soul eater takes place I think 500 years or more later from fire force
@@infinitedowns6630 Where did you get this information? I don't mind spoilers?
@@seekeroftruth45 the last pages of the Fire Force Manga
@@seekeroftruth45 it’s literally in the last 2 chapters
Yup
I think shinra and soul is more likely because with genetics you dont always keep the same hair passed down.
the passion in the first 5 seconds is dope
Personally think Vulcan became Eibon
Scythe is talking about how Maka does not want to talk to him in the background of Fire Force season 2 ep 18. Seems like they are happening at the same time.
I definitely called it rekka are related to Black Star it would make sense Maka takami and juggernaut everything we see our fight she has determination as a tank inherit from juggernaut strength what's about a good thing she her great grandma you know the stripping
what you tlaking maka come orm her mother dude we saw her her mother looks
in on roder black to star to come form rekka rekka wood have kdis as rekka died and what ao in soul eater not manga she has the soem as as black star and rekka
It gets me kindve heated how fire force is slept on
Very nice vid loved it, but what throws me off still is that one joke episode where Makas dad is in the timeline where he's sad over her and talks about it with those two women, but in that timeline she's older somewhere around Shinras age along with Soul.
Damn this video isn’t available.
But...who are Shinra's blood descendants? Appart from Asura and Kid? Cuz Shinra has a kid himself at the end of Fire Force. Where did his bloodline end up?
Why is he speaking like soul eater took place directly after fire force. Like the characters are direct descendants of the characters
At first when I didn't know both series had the same author i was shocked at why tamaki looks so similar to maka lmao
You☝️forgot😶about the👁️dummy thicc😰😰😰cat mage🥶🥶🥶need part 2😱😱😱😱😱
Finally a theory that us mortals can understand
I thought stein would be a descendent of licht because there both "scientists" but him being related to hinawa makes alot more since
Solid video bro
Everyone’s asking why obi and free weren’t in the video but no one is asking if free is obi
All I can say is now that it’s been confirmed that fire force is a prequel to soul eater. That would be amazing if soul eater had a season three in regards to fire force.
Season three is confirmed as well as soul world.
I think soul is related to sho. Since sho and shinra have the same eyes and teeth, the hair color would be the deciding factor. Sho’s hair being white, matches soul’s.
He said that in the vid
Definitely do more of this
Soul is probably a descendant of Sho's lineage, white hair the teeth etc... Shinra's only son is Kid...and is not really a son is just a split of his own soul probably to fight off loneliness. Looks like by Shinra becoming the Shinigami didn't allow him to pursuit a family.
There's multiple branching families connected to the fire force characters
I was going to make this video a while back damn 😁 early bird gets the worm👍
i think that Steins ancestor could be benimaru, they look very similar face wise and both of them take on the teacher/mentor role.
😈Looks like Inca got what she wanted
Is fire force the secret past of the world of soul eater
Spirit was already shown in fire force on a bar club
Benimaru - crona.
They both have the same lazy looking eyes. and the appearance of cronas soul exactly resembles benimarus left eye
Obi & Free are the same exact character designs pretty much but I don’t they are related
To anybody confused about how Soul Eater and FF are connected, here is a heavy spoiler about what happens in the Manga. I am assuming most of the people here are anime only people, and are puzzled as to what is going on.
In the Ending of Fire Force, Shinra basically creates Lord Death, performs the first Soul Resonance, and creates the Soul Eater world, where Combustion doesnt exist, and the Main power is a person's Soul. About 1000 years later, the Events before Soul Eater takes place, and the ending Panels of Fire Force shows Maka, Makas Mom, Spirit Black Star, Death the Kid, and Soul, and the formation of the DWMA. The final Panel, is a picture of Baby Maka, Spirit, And Maka's mom, with a caption saying "Next Up... Soul World".
To the people that are confused as to why Spirit was referenced in the Anime, that was highly likely to be an Easter Egg placed by David Productions, to pay homage to Okubo and Soul Eater. The manga doesnt show that panel, and its highly likely that they did not know Okubo's ending, while animating Season 2.
Black star is the decendent of Arthur, you can’t convince me otherwise, both unexplainably strong idiots charged by the power of will and a crazy dream no one believes is possible until they accomplish it
Hey men, just found your channel. You are great at what you do
I never imagine both fire force and souls eater made by the same creator
I think arrow is more like Azusa
Justin law may be descended from Iris
I wonder if benimaru had descendants
Masamune
I think maka would come from Beni bloodline especially if you look at her dad
steins could be a descendant of licht victor because like they have the same goals that are to find truth.
Nah, I dont think Soul is Sho's descendant. When Soul Smiled when being faced with the red demon. He looked kind of like Shinra. I'm gonna go on a limb and say that just because Shinra's hair is black doesn't mean his descendant's hair can't be white. It might as well just be a recessive gene that got passed down to Soul
Question for ya'll...anybody see "Soul Eater NOT"? I think the 1st episode with the girl, Meme Tatane, was a CLEAR easter egg that she is a descendant of Arthur Boyle!! Especially how the show focused on her ponytail at the top of her head and how clueless she seems to be...what ya'll think?
Yeah do part two
how can he be soul ancostro when maka dad spirt show up in fire force and maka dad was kid when lord death made dwma so i dont see how thuis even works i poitned this out before but you seme ot irgne it any one who seen the show andf mang know spirt showed up so how can there be tha tbgi if gip betwn soul eater and fire if he show up in fire force
Personally, what makes this theory even better is that the brazillian VAs for Stein and Hinawa, and for Soul and Sho are the same, it obviously wasnt intentional (i think) but its such a cool coincidence
Didn't know I was related to everyone that wears glasses
i still think soul eater manga needs a hail mary brotherhood. the manga was too good to not be animated with the same finesse.
Lol, random biology fact, dark hair is a dominant gene while blond is a recessive one found within people with darker hair. In the genetic pool, when two dominant phenotype features clash, a compatible recessive gene found in both DNA strains are used to replace the dominating genes since there’s no conflict to structuring the DNA. Recessive genes tend to win when there’s battling dominating genes, due to recessive genes being more accommodating or complimenting to each other than fighting for dominance. This is how couples with high melanin are capable of having children with lower to almost no melanin. It’s fun that Ohkubo decided to play by some accurate real life biology factors in his world building to give clues.
At the end of fire force when death comes back to the plant in a very distant future the plant looks dead and it looks like all life is gone behind death is a bunch of crosses which i thought were the resting places of those who lived their before they died so i always thought that shinra and the others never had ancestors and the plant became to dangerous or everyone there died out and when everyone died out thats when death came to rebuild the world and make new life there and thats how soul eater began
There’s a bit of a flaw is that Medusa part…
Also last time I checked the firer force happened only 20 years prior to the actual soul eater series… so it would be direct descendent and there isn’t any distant descendants possible to exists. It would only be 1 generation…
This is what I think is your biggest flaw in your claim. Shinra isn’t the father to Medusa. Madusa used to be part of soul society and the school. Soul is the son of shinra.
I think black star is Arthur’s kid. I mean they’re both swordsman but I haven’t read the manga but I think black star is stronger than hero.
I think steins ancestor was licht and that sho is makas sister
also sho and the head band like soul
I literally never thought of how similar they look wow. I’m not sure if this is true or not and whether they are father and son but it’s a really good theory I like it. Creative❤😊
Medusa looks more like orochi to me than inca but the hoodie part is a good point
I didn't see anyone talking about it, but in my opinion I think Iris is the ancestor of Justin the death scythe
Il this video old asf but i feel like theres a connection between karim and Justin. Both priest/holy men that always have music playing/Headphones in
Idk about all the ancestor, only 25 years passed between fire force and soul eater. In this logic, Maka would be more aged than Dr. Stain
Sho is soul father because there both have white hair
Wait but doesn’t soul eater take place like a ridiculously long time after fire force.
I think shinra is souls uncle
Just watched the epi in fire force where thevwhie clan chick cut off homeboys head and juggernaut goes ham on her .
Spirit actually existed while Vulcan was alive
If your talking about the scene in the anime where he was crying In a booth, that was an Easter Egg by David Productions, who probably didn't know Fire Force would be a prequel, since the manga wasn't finished while they animated it
Great video this was so entertaining you on point with what you said about sho and sol
both of my favorite animes together, nice
I mean death is Shinra's creation.
so, everything death created is kind of his kids..
Interestingly sister is another term for a nun. That would be an interesting take.
I think you forgot that is only like 35 years after fire force or something
How can soul he shinras son if he was made before him 🤦♂️
Pls pt. 2
I think soul white hair come from hibana and his eyes and teeth from shinra
Ok so when the fire force anime ends soul eater needs a reboot so we can get it's true ending
Dr Maury soul eater/fire force edition
You could here the excitement in your voice.
I am also present in the comment section
I can toatly see it and Im a die hard soul eater fan
I thought soul was a descendant of hibana and shinra since he is lightskin and has white hair
Arthur is black stars ancestor 💀😭👏🏽