YJ Buggy Ep.5 Trussing Custom 14 bolt TTR Axle
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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Hey my lovelies
This was a fun but nerve wracking episode for me personally. I’ve watched many people in real life as well as your tube truss axles and always aspired to be able to do that one day and here we are! I’m so happy with the way it turned out after some heavy modification because of that custom 14 bolt axle and its new hefty diameter of 4”.
It may not look like much but what we all achieved in this episode was substantial and a lot of hard work.
The more I work on this project the more in love I am with it and taking my time and getting it done right will be the key for this.
I hope you guys are enjoying the build just as much as we are and can’t wait to catch you next time!
- Holls x
Confession: When you made your axle stands, I never thought you would ever use 'em.
Excellent foresight on your part, thanks for the great upload.
Wow The Scottish Hammer is gonna take a while to build, and I know it's gonna be AWESOME. Thanks for the video guy's.
Holly will be the go to for trusses on axles after this. The flexing of metal makes sense as when you weld it tends to pull the metal, great tip. 😊😊😊😊😊
Your welds are getting really good,
Great job, Hollz!! Looking awesome! Walter cracked me up with his OMMMING! Lol Matty knows a lot of tricks! Cool! Cheers!!
Matt knew so much. He was a hell of a guy. I miss my cuz.
It’s unreal how much practical knowledge Matty had from a lifetime of creative problem solving (and a lot of that in service to others!). I know this may seem a bit weird, but I say good night to him when I leave the shop every night…
Walter letting the stress out. To funny 😁
That Buggy is going to be amazingggg
So great to find businesses that will work with you and be trusted! So many that are not trustworthy or competent - I've found some, to the dismay of my bank account! This is really going to be a great build - can't wait to see the rest of the progress.
Wow. That is quite the job. It is fun to watch all of the little tricks that go into making these projects come alive. Keep it up 👍
Yes pre stress is a real thing and it works. It’s the same as pre stressed/arced trailers. Any time 2 structural components are merged always pre stress to share the load equally.
Loving this build!
The only axle I put a truss on was a 9". I used 3/16" thick 3.5" Sq tube.
Completely sealed the truss and vented the axle into the truss then vented the truss.
Then used a .75" plate and cut the bottom off to .25" clearance to the ring. Also had short trusses from the flat bottom to the tubes. The center section had 1"holes into the short trusses bottom edge and 1/4" into the tubes for oil movement.
Never broke the axle, never over heated it either. Drove it daily for about 6 years.
Rudy defo needed that truss wielding trick
The coolest show you have done to date.😅😊
Ms. Holly, I have done just like you did with the welding of cast, propane or MAP gas, But just watched Colt while he was working with cast and steel, different job, same materials, and he heated his pieces up too, except..... he used one of those weed burners, and it works so my faster a,d heats it so much better, I'll never heat cast up with those little bottles again.
He also post heated and let it all cool super slow with blankets. Personal experience around equipment and weld repairs I've found peening like Matt did works great too.
Tom Tom is the guy!And yes the music is too much! But good job 👍
You could use a vertical band saw
Great job you all it's coming right along. Holly, you are spending too much time with Rudy look at your nails. We are feeling it too Holly.
It's called cambering ,when weld cool they pull
Yep I remember seeing something about pre-stressing axle housings before. I question if you can really do that with ratchet straps on such a heavy duty housing though?
I remember when if you had Dana 44s you had a big axel. Trusses were cable or round stock that were attached to a saddle under the pumpkin and bolted to the axel ends. 31s were big tires. I am beginning to think that I'm old
If I ever own a TJ, it will be fairly stock with Dana44s and 35s.
@MischiefMakerTV a basicly factory tj with the old rubicon express long arm kit amd 35s was a beast 15 or so years ago. One thing that helps the pre JK wranglers is the frame is a bit higher. I remember when the LJ Rubicon with the long arm kit was about as good as you could get before going all out with custom fab.
Yes we are🙄
I feel you on that
That is cool that you can get bare axil casings from TTR! I want to build a project from the ground up.
It’s a great way to save money and get exactly what you want - especially the pinion/caster separation that’s ideal for longer travel rigs. That’s my main complaint about superduty front axles. Rear junkyard axles are fine and, if 72” wms-wms works for your rig, you can’t go wrong (especially because you can still use stock internals) …but front superduty axles were designed for highway use in hauling vehicles that were never expected to see 14-16” of travel and keeping the pinion happy sometimes means sacrificing caster at ride height and at full droop!
Yes
GO BIG or GO Home 👍👍👍👍
Looks like someone forgot to weld the backside of the truss to the diff
Usually the over the diff part isn't welded.
@@joshuabaker5712not over the diff but on the casting where the tubes slide in
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Good morning
Always a pleasure to watch your videos, love ya Holly!
It makes sense what he is saying about stressing the truss before welding. If you think about it, when objects heat up they expand, and contract when they cool. So if you were to just weld 2 flat pieces of metal together, even at a 90 degree angle, they tend to bow when they cool. So applying a force to one piece opposite of the second piece before welding would normalize it when it cools.
I had no idea how fascinating your channel was but I'm finding out quickly, you are part of a wonderful community of Offroaders, heartwarming to realize there are some great young people out there.
I’ve never heard of bending the opposite way while welding but I get the principle. I would be surprised if that strap could bend 4” x .5” tube but I think it could hold it in place while your welds cool. My thought on truss work is to treat it like body work. 1-2” here and there and not overheat an area causing a warp. Shops burn it all in to save time but weekend warriors can do some and let it cool over and over again 🤷🏻♂️
Those axle tubes aren’t spinning!
I’ve never preloaded an axle before welding a truss, but I will on my next one. Almost every truss that gets welded pulls the tubes up in that direction. Creating a little bit of negative camber. You don’t have to do it, but to check it, you bolt the tires on and measure between the top of the tires. Then spin the axle housing upside down (truss down) and measure between the tops of the tires again. Keep it under an 1/8”.
Hey Holly.. I was wanting to ask you if you are for or against the Campbell clan
Did you leave room for replacement of the air locker fitting? It looks like there is no room for a wrench on it. 🤷♂️
We call it pre-stressing in construction. The giant concrete beams across the freeway have prestressed cables in them etc
Pre stressing is used buildings, aircraft, the steel in concrete, bridges why not use in in the trusses to strengthen them
And biggest bonus is we all gets more great contents 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Pre tension the axle and weld the truss on. Interesting idea. But if its worked for Matt then it has to work. I might try this on my next set of axles.
I wish you get rid of that "music", it kills my ears, it is not necessary, I have to mute the audio
Never heard of doing a truss like that, but it makes TOTAL sense. Great tip and I'll try to remember it next time I weld one up.
I have found watching Walter's growth in front of the camera to be pretty cool, no more hiding. Awesome job Walter. 👍👍
Sounds similar to pre-stressed concrete.
Marlin and Luna look like some pretty chill cats.
My HS metal shop teacher taught us about preloading. The lesson was learned while we were working on a trailer as a class project. The truss support underneath the trailer was all preloaded.
I love your attitude, because you can.
Question, is that a 11.5 GM style 14 bolt?(OPINION ) Do you think a Gm 10.5 14 bolt rear with D50 front would be good solid combo in building a one ton swapped Jeep XJ CHEROKEE
My 14B housings are for a 10.5” ring gear. I have a D80 with an 11.25” ring gear in MM and I wanted slightly smaller, but just as strong and I think these will hit the mark for this buggy. The housings just look massive because they are not shaved - which is my (very unpopular) preference.
I’m not the most experienced with junkyard axles and XJs but if your XJ will be on 40s and as light as the Rudicon, that axle combo should be more than adequate. 💪🏻😎
I kind of wish you went without trusses. I think axles look super clean without them! I do get that it makes brackets easier to locate and get on the axle. I just like the look of a big axle with beefy brackets and no truss.
I get what you mean. They are beautiful, but I’m pretty sure that’s impossible for a cast center-style diff with a double triangulated suspension setup. Totally doable with a set of fabricated axles though ( but 🤑💸💸)
This 14B would, at a minimum, need a bridge truss for the axle side uppers.
@@MischiefMakerTV yea for the rear I’d totally get it for that style suspension. For the front though you could do without a truss! 😁
Hollie, how many hats do you have?
An outrageous amount! But it’s way better than shirts because they take up way too much room and I end up donating like 100 every year 🤣
Great job guys. Thank you 😊
If you break that you are definitely in someplace you REALLY shouldn't be! Just kidding, but it's sure going to take a lot to break it. Have fun and stay safe,
I fabricate trailers, and while setting up and tacking the first side, the bottom, the frame sags down several inches when welded. After turning over to weld the top I usually find that there is a considerable arch upward. I measure it and put a 55gal drum on the high spot on 4x4s, and fill it up till it sags the same amount below the centerline, welderup, drain your drum, and it will be perfectly flat with a nice preload the length of the unit.
Load compensation has to be set so everything will stay more straight-ish under load. Do the same when you truss a bridge or trailer frame so they don't end up immediately sagging when you start loading them.
Best!
Hey Hollie your nearly 100k subscribers I'll be the first to congratulate you.
love your show
Austin is a great guy. I haven't bought anything from him YET but he still answered every question i have while waiting to get to the 14 Bolt Steer axle i have planned.
He seems to have a hard time delivering for people. There’s a thread over on irate4x4 talking about him getting the money then ghosting people.
@lgray647 I’m a bit concerned myself. We haven’t heard from him since March 3rd and the giveaway Jeep axles are paid in full. Still holding out hope, but he has been unresponsive for weeks 🫤
@@MischiefMakerTV another “Doug’s axles”. Bummer.
@@Chansen231 hopefully not, that would suck and I’d hate to think someone stole funds from a charity. There really isn’t anything lower than that 😔.
We debated going with a more well established company, but in the end, we wanted to support a small business…
@@MischiefMakerTV it looks like his Accounts got hacked or something. It was mentioned in a comment on a post on his FB Page.
Great job guys. Thank you 😊
Good job on your welding 😎
HEY Holly! Hello lovely lady!!
Hello Walter !
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That axle sure looks heavy. 😁
It sure will be, but also (hopefully) capable of taking years of abuse without failure. And ‘heavy’ is a relative term. It’s incremental. I’m sure we’ll be within 300lbs of a fully dressed junkyard 14B (but infinitely stronger).
@@MischiefMakerTV they get heavy fast with trusses, mounts, high steer, locker, hydro steering. Is is good weight though
@@MischiefMakerTV they get heavy fast with trusses, mounts, high steer, locker, hydro steering. Is is good weight though