Wheel Arch Modifications

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2023
  • Using the Golf GTi mkII model the extract wheel arches where modified to increase downforce. The aerodynamic performance increase was modest but there. Changes were most because the extra wide wheel arches, due to Hillclimb modification, removing lift. Addition benefits can from reducing the interaction between the bonnet or hood and the side of thecar.
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  • @innacrisis6991
    @innacrisis6991 7 месяцев назад +4

    Criminally underrated channel

  • @rolandotillit2867
    @rolandotillit2867 9 месяцев назад +30

    Check out a paper titled "The Effect of Camber and Yaw Angle on the Aerodynamic Performance of Rotating Wheels in Contact with the Ground" 2015. It shows that toeing the wheel in increases the tire squirt vortex inboard of the tire, and diminishes it outboard. When you toe out the wheel the inverse happens. Obviously you can't just run massive toe out, tire wear, tire heating, and stability will all suffer. However what you can do is create outwash inboard of the tires. This will make the relative airflow the tire sees as if it were toed out, without physically having to run massive toe out. This is the logic behind the M4 GT3 race car, the Porsche GT3 RS, F1 cars, LMP cars, etc. What this does is reduce the tire squirt inboard of the tire, so it affects the floor far less.

    • @nelsonphillips
      @nelsonphillips  9 месяцев назад +6

      With one of the early videos with the suzuki a particular configuration of the splitter and the air dam holding it on does something very similar. Everyone runs a round edge/corner, but If you cut out the corner and push the air at the wheel there is such a performance benefit.

  • @HansBrodiAutomotive
    @HansBrodiAutomotive 8 месяцев назад

    This is a great channel! I love that you cite your sources

  • @PapotsGarage
    @PapotsGarage 9 месяцев назад +2

    It’s almost like you’re reading into my mind. Initially My oil cooler setup took air in the cabin ventilation to exit INSIDE the wheel arch which is opened behind the wheel.
    THEN:
    Thinking the wheel rotating would interfere with the hot air exiting, I decided to channel very carefully the hot air, to a laminar region on top of the rear fender (where you’ve put the little spoiler in your simulation). I’ve haven’t noticed a huge difference, now I know why.
    THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR VIDEOS.

    • @PapotsGarage
      @PapotsGarage 9 месяцев назад

      *on top of the rear of the front fender, if it make sens.

  • @nafsucof
    @nafsucof 8 месяцев назад

    new favorite channel!

  • @half_tilt_boogie
    @half_tilt_boogie 9 месяцев назад

    Excellent info! thank you for sharing

  • @5637718
    @5637718 9 месяцев назад

    I'm no areo dynamics expert but as car enthusiast and dodge viper lover , the difference between the ACR hood and gts hood is that the ACR has massive holes (vents) right above the wheels (that cover Approxmeate the length and widths of the wheels) to remove pressure and no elongated wheel archs , just something I understood why it was done more than before thanks for the vid

  • @SummonerArthur
    @SummonerArthur 7 месяцев назад

    I don't understand crap, but these vids of you are interesting

  • @IndeterminateDesign
    @IndeterminateDesign 9 месяцев назад +1

    Love this video series and your F1 videos. I have a mk1 Golf I’m working on CFD for.
    Cutting out the bottom rear of the fender flare and curving the wheel well out towards the door edge created additional drag but more extraction from the underfloor. Very similar to the Porsche GT3 RS front fenders.
    I do wonder about the overall effectiveness of that wedge shaped body kit for aero in general.

    • @gp8666
      @gp8666 8 месяцев назад

      ah so thats how i came across this video

  • @cudedog
    @cudedog 8 месяцев назад +1

    Maybe adding airflow for brake caliper cooling would change the low pressure behind the wheel. That flow directed up and out by the louvers could help get that air from going underneath the car by a miniscule amount too.
    Also, love that book.

    • @nelsonphillips
      @nelsonphillips  8 месяцев назад +1

      super tourers had an interesting solution, venting out from in front of the front wheel. It not in a video, its from a model before I was making videos, when I do the front corner I'll show what they did.

  • @Snail_With_a_Shotgun
    @Snail_With_a_Shotgun 9 месяцев назад

    Hey Nelson, loved the video as always. Seeing the relatively poor performance of the louvres (in terms of front Cl change) in comparison to other solutions was very interesting to see, though not too surprising considering the disruptions in the flow downstream caused by the other solutions might not be desirable for most cars that might run them.
    Anyway, you use OpenFOAM for these simulations, correct? Would you mind telling me how you get those "oil flow" surface contours? I've been trying to get them working for months, but I don't even know what to search for when attempting to find the answer on Google, so I'm kinda stuck. Cheers!

    • @nelsonphillips
      @nelsonphillips  9 месяцев назад +1

      yep, it is openfoam the lines are call LIC, line integrated convolution, here is the tutorial I found it in ruclips.net/video/sjTH09Bc53M/видео.html
      That section of the car is more complex than I could've imagine. There is a bunch of interaction with the bonnet, quarter panels, wheels, windscreen and mirrors..... Then this also affects the floor because of the engine bay venting......

    • @Snail_With_a_Shotgun
      @Snail_With_a_Shotgun 9 месяцев назад

      @@nelsonphillips Oh, I thought it was an OpenFOAM functionObject. That explains a lot haha. Either way, I got it running now. Thanks, this is going to be a huge help in post-processing!

  • @Drisson42
    @Drisson42 9 месяцев назад +3

    Where do you do your sims? Ansys?

  • @Eduardo_Espinoza
    @Eduardo_Espinoza 2 месяца назад

    Does Australia calls them hoods?

  • @mightyfinejonboy
    @mightyfinejonboy 9 месяцев назад

    what would be the effect of having lots of very small/low fins on the sides of the car?

    • @nelsonphillips
      @nelsonphillips  9 месяцев назад

      lots of little fins wouldn't work all that well as they would only create small flow structure. A car with the ride height of 10cm you would need a flow structure/vortex with a diameter larger than that. A fin will be proportionally to its flow structure it creates.