Beating your horse because it just refused or got scared is absolutely disgusting and unacceptable. If he was so comfortable to beat the poor thing like that in public then IMAGINE what's going on when he is alone with the horse.
@Layla And Alastor The Mustang he is hitting the horse like beating him. The horse can feel it, that’s why horses have trust issues and through people off sometimes
For all the ones saying the horse couldn't feel that whip yall don't know what u r talking about. First off, horses have a thinner layer of skin than us. Second off, they have more nerve endings than we do, so they feel pain easier than we do. Thirdly, horses r sensitive and r prey animals. They have a fight or flight response to things. Let me start off by all of u that use whips, spurs, or other harsh equipment yall r just disgusting and disrespectful. Sorry not sorry. Horses don't deserve to be hit with whips, kicked with spurs, drugged with drugs, or be put through uncomfortable situations that make them upset just to get u fame, money, wealth, or whatever it is that u r using them for. First off, whipping a horse to go over a jump or because it refuses a jump doesn't help anyone, all that does is scare the horse and make them work with u out of fear. Also, letting ur emotions get in the way when working with animals is a huge no no. U don't let ur emotions cloud ur judgement. Animals can sense ur emotions and tell what u r feeling. I want yall to take ur whip and repeatedly hit urself in the same spot/area, and tell me how it feels after a few hits. After u get out of a pool and ur skin is wet hit urself with a whip repeatedly and tell me how it feels. Take ur spurs and hit urself in the ribs repeatedly with them just like u do to the horses u ride and tell me how u feel after. If u try to say that none of it hurts then u weren't doing it the same way u do to ur horse. Horses tell u when they r hurting or uncomfortable, but so many of yall ignore them and don't pay attention to their body language and behavior. If people went through what horses go through people would start a rebellion because they would be tired of living the shitty life they r given. Common people quit being blind and naive. Thousands of horses die a year for people, and it's sad, and it's not just how it is, it's because people r selfish, stubborn, and disrespectful.
reminder to be gentle and understanding when your horse is being "naughty". Punishing them for something they don't realise they did wrong isn't going to do them any good.
@@cha_hoe yes, they do feel it. if you knew anything about a horse you'd know their skin is a lot thinner than ours and have more nerve endings than us, the rider wasnt sitting right to jump anyway and the horse did not trust him to jump, there was no need to whip the horse like that.
He didin’t hurt him that bad. The point was if the horse doesn’t listen to leg you can touch or whip him a bit with the stick(?). Thats how I was teached to do if ur horse is stubborn enough
@@theoandhipp9661 the horse would’ve been given mixed signals. So the horse gets confused no reason for the horse to listen when it’s being confused. And not to mention pulling on the reigns so aggressively that he drops his whip. Think again before u assume
He wasn’t beating his horse. He is training and sometimes horses need that to learn. That crop didn’t hurt the horse either Bc they are such large animals
This was at the Tokyo Olympics with the new team format with no drop score that all the riders hated and protested heavily. The rider knew his team would be eliminated if he didn't finish the course and you could see the agony and indecision on his face as he rode around, knowing his horse was having some sort of issue, wanting to pull up but also not wanting to eliminate his team. I felt so bad for him because the decision to put one's country over one's horse's safety is a decision no rider should ever have to make, and shame on the Olympic committee for putting riders in that position.
@@DeluluIsTheWay I very much hope they never do this again. The drop score’s role in safety and well-being of participants was never more obvious than it was this summer.
Some of these people misuse their crop. It’s supposed to be a pressure tool, not a hitting to punish tool. The horse doesn’t know why you are punishing them as it’s not their nature to punish, just to apply pressure until someone does what they want so if you want your horse to yield in, lightly tap the opposite side of their body no harder than how hard you’d hit your own face a few times until they drop that shoulder.
Us riders don't need to beat ourselves, or our horses, up after fails. It happens. What is important is realising what went wrong, and what we should have done instead. This way we keep our horses happy, not repeating mistakes, and moving on.
By actually paying attention to my horses' body language, I've fallen once in 3+ years and that one time was because something was wrong with the girth and the saddle slid off. So yes, you shouldn't be upset with your horse after a fall, but you should definitely evaluate and think very carefully about what you did and if you paid enough attention to your horses' wants and needs
He didn't want to jump that jump, so you beat him. Real talent you have. My boy jumps if he doesn't, I give him another chance and ask, if for some reason he say's no then it's no. He never refuses without a reason and I respect that. But we don't compete at a grade level we jump for fun. No doubt if I beat him he would jump, but I would lose my heart horse. I know what I prefer. My heart horse. .
@@annarigsby4289 Oh I have, dunno if your talking to me, but Sure know the difference. I don't ride at 1 star or 5 star I'm 72 years old. But back in the day I rode 3 star and rode very different horses, please don't asume me you know what a person has or has not ridden by one comment.
Getting your horse to do something from fear of a beating is no way to build relationships. Isn't it better to have a willing partner than a fearful resentful one?
Yeah, I’ve dealt with refusals quite a bit and I never hit the horse, instead I give them a pat, take a deep breath, and go again with more determination.
I would so get after my students if they hung on to the reins and tore into the poor horses mouth and I would also teach them to roll when you hit the ground to absorb the fall and get the heck clear of the horse. My students all had to practice getting off a moving horse and learning how to tuck and roll when you land, not stick out a arm to break .... Old saying, if you ride enough you will come off. I am 67, still breaking horses and still coming off... lol. gotta love it.
It's reassuring that even experienced riders fall off. I've had my horse for 3-ish years now, and I've fallen off him 9 times haha. Fell off every ride for the most recent 3 rides too.
At 1:23 is just no- someone please teach that person to not whip your horse aggressively if they don’t go over the jump!! If the horse doesn’t go over it, it’s probably because of you or it’d your fault!
Most of these riders need to learn basic skills. They do not have center of balance. Horses can't move correctly if riders are not in correct position. Learn to ride bareback. Don't rush into jumping until you have a secure seat without hanging on the horse's mouth.
First of all. Everyone falls sometimes, these are not due to lack of basic skills nor do they need to learn to ride bareback? I had my first freak accident ride by bareback due to owning a younger horse. You don’t know the training horse and rider has received, don’t make assumptions. For example my horse is green, I’ve been the person to give him lots of training and I still fall off because he has a fear of shows and simply being outside. Ive ridden him bareback but it’s not something me or him do anymore because of when he stepped on my abdomen. I know my basic skills and have a center of balance, I fell off because he spooked, everyone has their bad days. One of the people who fell off, on the grey paint, wasn’t even holding her reins, so not all were hanging on the horses mouth. Just explaining what I believe and giving examples. Hopefully I didn’t come off as rude, but have a good day^^
@@kiley7181 I am sorry you were injured. I have left dents in the ground and gone home with cactus in me. I emulated the Native American people who never rode with a saddle. Why is you horse afraid to go outside? Can you partner with another rider on a calm horse? Professional riders still fall, it happens. Their level of riding makes it a rare event. Have you watched the Lippazaner riders? They do not use stirrups. They are truly balanced. The riders in the video were not prepared for the higher jumps, mainly younger riders. Falls are going to happen when not prepared for those jumps. No, you were not rude, but defensive. If possible, long trail rides to relax both you and your young horse provided you have the open space to ride. NATRC is a great way to learn many things for partnering with your horse. I hope you can ride some trails, along with another or a small group of riders. Good luck to you and please wear a helmet!
@@cherylboelter7543 I agree maybe they weren’t ready for such heights. I have watched a few, not in person of course. Falling off is the way someone could learn - in my opinion - and through training of course and eventually learn to have a better center of gravity. I have no clue why my horse is afraid of being outside, he was fine last year but suddenly this year during the show season I noticed he hasn’t been as relaxed and is quite tense. He’s been a bit better as of lately. He’s almost always outside with other horses and riders simply because of lessons there’s usually at least four of us. I do believe the barn he was born and raised at never did take the time to realize his potential as they would only ride him directly before shoes and wouldn’t put much into his training - so his training and potential were neglected. He has been brought down in levels to resolve his show fear. Thank you for your concern and to have this nice conversation. I do think, now reading it again, I was a bit defensive and brash, so I do apologize.
1:22 what the actual heck. Just because your horse refused a jump doesn’t mean you get to abuse them. A whip is a pressure tool not an “I’m gonna hit my horse as hard as possible so he jumps and I don’t care if I loose him I just want people to say I’m a good rider.” Kind of thing. Since that terrible person doesn’t know how to use one read all the other comments talking about it because I don’t want to explain it’s 2 am.
Exactly 💯 not only was he whipping the poor horse, but he was also pulling so tightly on the mouth that the horse couldn't lower its head to look at the jump. Stop ripping their mouths off and whipping the crap out of your horses, work on your seat, and work with the horse instead of against it.
Oh barrel racers do that all the time we loose our stirrups around the barrels and some even life their leg and the stirrup falls we sometimes even turn the barrels without them
That happened to me 😭 I sat on a pony’s neck and she bucked and jumped, I already did my hands forward to put it on the ground but then she reared and I could sit back, I didn’t even know how I sat that
It looks way worse but if he let the horse have the reins the would have gone so much faster. He was getting a nice collected canter. He also wasn't pushing him too hard with the spurrs. He was being a bit harsh on the reins but he lossened up a bit after that jump
1:17 this is abuse. He whips it before giving any leg at all and you can see it’s head pinned back because he’s yanking the reins so hard 1:54 and look at her yanking. Abuse.
to he fair, the horse had lost a shoe at the jumps before, (i’ve seen this before) and the rider did say he was going to retire after the next bad jump :)
The horse (kilkenny I believe, I could be wrong.) had lost a shoe during the competition. That's why he was jumping badly. If you had seen his other rounds, you would know how amazing he is.
guys crops are not for whipping, theyre for extra help only if you really need it. you shouldnt need spurs and a crop. you shouldnt be beating your horse with a crop, thats not what theyre for
That guy who beat his horse is disgusting. It’s an animal. Not a machine. People like that don’t deserve to work with horses, or any animal for that matter.
Why don't they teach the people to do a sitting trot over those small fences. Gives the horse a lot of confidence. Plus it helps the rider to sit in not on the horse.
1:56 that horse just screams green or fresh. Kinda her fault, she not only got on the horse in a dangerously wet arena but also pried her spurs into the horses sides which definitely caused discomfort and escalated the situation even more than just getting off.
i noticed on 1:23 that he started furiously whipping the poor horse, you need to understand when ur horse is having an off day and his seat wasnt good to jump anyway, u dont need to whip ur horse like that when they refuse a jump. its horrific. calm the horse and either try again but with a kind mindset or simply, miss that jump and try again another day.
At 1:38 I thought it was just needing training to not stop but now I go back to see that was such a hard hit and should not be doing that to a horse that looks like is in good shape the right way is to pet them and the horse it’s okay,make a circle,pet again and, then go and try and jump it no horse should have to go through that
1:22 is absolutely disgusting. Just because your horse didn’t do the jump doesn’t mean you have to beat them. If you think this guy doesn’t deserve a horse 👇
@@natashakate5687 got me neither 😂 I have tried a one handed canter but I don’t think I steer very well because we ended up going in a circle 😅 and then my reins came undone because the knot I put in them wasn’t tight enough 👌🏼👉🏼👈🏼
I wanna know more about that grey jumper and his obvious jumping issue....and why he was allowed to jump at that level with something that was so obviously wrong.
@@briannamercedes4016 no, the horse was in some kind of pain to jump but the Olympics forced the rider to jump the horse. He was against it but they forced him.
Horrible horsemanship for the horse, he was just afraid to jump since a horse can feel your emotions, if your scared or nervous the horse can feel it too, he didnt jump because he knew their rider was anxious
The horse that jumped over the fence and landed with the legs tucked under. I am so very happy the horse's legs didn't break. The rest of the videos the horses' decided to dump their riders. It's like you can go over the fences, not me. I couldn't see one video where the rider and horse just kept jumping over the fences consecutively. Was that person jumping without holding the reins? That person is lucky their back wasn't broken when they landed on it. Such daredevils some of the riders!!!
No horse is bad, they behave only as what they are! Humans are bad and well we know we are worse! A horse is a reflection fo you! So you know what you don't know and teaching bad lessons is a start down misery...for your horse :D Animals rule!!
My whip is for training my young ones when they bite to bop them on the nose or to boo then on chest to stop when I do their feet or there are pushing on the door 1:23 is abusing never whip them for refusing as there is a reason why they refused :( I crop my horse when they are being rlly bad
@@phoebe.ponies3869 horses can be naughty take mustangs for example they aren’t broke and will do almost anything to get you off there back when the riders are doing nothing wrong, and then my horse titan is very bad at times he’ll buck when I ask to go over jumps even poles at time and I know I don’t weigh to much for him and he’s in perfect health, so that’s just him being bad
It’s so hard for me when I see horses like his his reins were so short if he hadn’t lost his wip the horse would have been hurt I can’t believe people put up with it
Are the horses okay? Some of they took devastating falls. Personally I feel bad for the horses who are forced to jump and the repetitive impact on their joints. Landing on their heads and necks is not good.
the horse is fine i do that when its being a jerk witch that horse was doing if ur horse is being stubborn, do it becuase u show whos the boss and that it cant do that so if ur horse does that its okay to smack them there little sh*** somethimes
@@lydia1642 Horses don't do things just because they are jerks. That horse saw something or felt something off so he refused, likely was afraid of the fence. If you want your horse to associate jumping with being a good thing, don't punish your horse for having a normal reaction while jumping. And if you're going to punish for a refusal, you need to do it immediately, not seconds after or else the horse will not associate the whip with the refusal. Crops are also meant to be used as a tool to encourage the horse, not a tool to take out your frustrations (as we saw in the modern pentathlon...). That man's actions were uncalled for and the horse learned nothing from it, all it did was make the rider feel better about himself.
1:21 ayo dude if you want to use crops then use 'em well, thank you. Whipping a horse like that just because he refused to jump (maybe even got scared or confused) is awful and disgusting. And let's not talk about how he pulled the reins, horrible.
I think she was probably expecting her horse to take the deep instead of the long. Ive been there😆 but yes, you are completely correct, she just wasn't expecting it
The first clip is a perfect way to break your horses jaw. Incredibly irresponsible way to handle/train a horse. If you think that is acceptable, than you need to go back to the basics and learn how to train a horse the right way or stop working with horses all together because, that is dangerous. If any of my clients did that to their horses they wouldn't be at my barn anymore. Your horse is your partner and putting a bit into their mouth then tying them down like that is a unnecessary risk to your horses life and that, is unacceptable and no way to treat your partner.
I aggree to a point however that horse was being gently lunged, anything is a hazard to them even if used correctly. That is actually a very common and normal training aid, the cord is designed to snap if a lot of pressure is put onto it. I understand it looks dangerous bit heck, a saddle is dangerous if put on wrong! That training aid is to help with relaxation- asing them to come more into the contact and as well as that - a lot of people dont have time to put on a roller with a pessoa or a saddle with side reins. That is a much more simple and still safe way of achieveing the same outcome. Secondly we have no prior information on that horse, for all you know it could of been only lunged with that on and feels better w it etc etc. We simply do not know.
1:20 What a horrible thing to do. Yanking on the horses mouth and wipping them because they don’t feel comfortable with a ugly rude big pig on there back.
Why hasn't anyone told these children that the way you stay seated is by pushing down with your legs and centering your weight on that horse not disconnecting wtf ugh
Beating your horse because it just refused or got scared is absolutely disgusting and unacceptable. If he was so comfortable to beat the poor thing like that in public then IMAGINE what's going on when he is alone with the horse.
Yes, I almost cried seeing that. Like all the horse did is refuse a jump-Horses aren’t machines that work for you, horses are innocent animals.
@Layla And Alastor The Mustang he is hitting the horse like beating him. The horse can feel it, that’s why horses have trust issues and through people off sometimes
@Layla And Alastor The Mustang yep you are righr
Yes you are sooooo right
For all the ones saying the horse couldn't feel that whip yall don't know what u r talking about. First off, horses have a thinner layer of skin than us. Second off, they have more nerve endings than we do, so they feel pain easier than we do. Thirdly, horses r sensitive and r prey animals. They have a fight or flight response to things. Let me start off by all of u that use whips, spurs, or other harsh equipment yall r just disgusting and disrespectful. Sorry not sorry. Horses don't deserve to be hit with whips, kicked with spurs, drugged with drugs, or be put through uncomfortable situations that make them upset just to get u fame, money, wealth, or whatever it is that u r using them for. First off, whipping a horse to go over a jump or because it refuses a jump doesn't help anyone, all that does is scare the horse and make them work with u out of fear. Also, letting ur emotions get in the way when working with animals is a huge no no. U don't let ur emotions cloud ur judgement. Animals can sense ur emotions and tell what u r feeling. I want yall to take ur whip and repeatedly hit urself in the same spot/area, and tell me how it feels after a few hits. After u get out of a pool and ur skin is wet hit urself with a whip repeatedly and tell me how it feels. Take ur spurs and hit urself in the ribs repeatedly with them just like u do to the horses u ride and tell me how u feel after. If u try to say that none of it hurts then u weren't doing it the same way u do to ur horse. Horses tell u when they r hurting or uncomfortable, but so many of yall ignore them and don't pay attention to their body language and behavior. If people went through what horses go through people would start a rebellion because they would be tired of living the shitty life they r given. Common people quit being blind and naive. Thousands of horses die a year for people, and it's sad, and it's not just how it is, it's because people r selfish, stubborn, and disrespectful.
reminder to be gentle and understanding when your horse is being "naughty". Punishing them for something they don't realise they did wrong isn't going to do them any good.
1:23 isn’t a fall, it’s a man abusing his horse, no wonder it doesn’t listen to him.
there’s a difference between Abuse and Discipline, damn.
There's no abuse happening
@@cha_hoe it isn't discipline getting beat is abuse DaMn
@@BigboyJose-v8 bruh he wasn’t beating the horse. he just hit the horse with this crop, they don’t really feel it.
@@cha_hoe yes, they do feel it. if you knew anything about a horse you'd know their skin is a lot thinner than ours and have more nerve endings than us, the rider wasnt sitting right to jump anyway and the horse did not trust him to jump, there was no need to whip the horse like that.
1:23 Furiously whipping your horse after he refuses a jump is horrible horsemanship. Give it a rest, geez.
He didin’t hurt him that bad. The point was if the horse doesn’t listen to leg you can touch or whip him a bit with the stick(?). Thats how I was teached to do if ur horse is stubborn enough
@@visperilda this is not whipping a bit.... it was the riders fault. Horse doesn’t trust his rider to jump.
And the horse i Way to thin it need more fat it looks like a skeleton
@@karinadahl-olsen7542 he looks fine?
He did not win him he dropped it
1:22 okay we don’t need to hit him that aggressively, thank you
Ikr
Lowkey hoped that horse would buck him off ...
@@theoandhipp9661 the horse would’ve been given mixed signals. So the horse gets confused no reason for the horse to listen when it’s being confused. And not to mention pulling on the reigns so aggressively that he drops his whip. Think again before u assume
@@theoandhipp9661 no excuse to yank its head around, nor whack it with the crop ...
@@amandalarsen9121 ye same
1:20 thank god he lost his crop so he couldn't unfairly beat the shit out of his horse again :)
THANK GOD
It was his error! He stopped riding the horse to the jump then smacked him for it! Shoulda whacked him lol
It stoped don’t make it learn bad lessons
@@eq___lily what do you mean? that he did wrong or right?
He wasn’t beating his horse. He is training and sometimes horses need that to learn. That crop didn’t hurt the horse either Bc they are such large animals
2:06 obviously the horse is having an issue please stop asking it to jump the rest of them
This was at the Tokyo Olympics with the new team format with no drop score that all the riders hated and protested heavily. The rider knew his team would be eliminated if he didn't finish the course and you could see the agony and indecision on his face as he rode around, knowing his horse was having some sort of issue, wanting to pull up but also not wanting to eliminate his team. I felt so bad for him because the decision to put one's country over one's horse's safety is a decision no rider should ever have to make, and shame on the Olympic committee for putting riders in that position.
@@DeluluIsTheWay I very much hope they never do this again. The drop score’s role in safety and well-being of participants was never more obvious than it was this summer.
2:56 the fact that shy literally jumped 2 jumps on the horses frickin’ neck 😳😧
@@DeluluIsTheWay where can I see a full video of it?
The riders heels aren’t even down
Some of these people misuse their crop. It’s supposed to be a pressure tool, not a hitting to punish tool. The horse doesn’t know why you are punishing them as it’s not their nature to punish, just to apply pressure until someone does what they want so if you want your horse to yield in, lightly tap the opposite side of their body no harder than how hard you’d hit your own face a few times until they drop that shoulder.
You're right vhat you wrote
Yes the more you hurt them the more they don’t understand and keep acting out.
Us riders don't need to beat ourselves, or our horses, up after fails. It happens. What is important is realising what went wrong, and what we should have done instead. This way we keep our horses happy, not repeating mistakes, and moving on.
Very well said 👏🏻
By actually paying attention to my horses' body language, I've fallen once in 3+ years and that one time was because something was wrong with the girth and the saddle slid off. So yes, you shouldn't be upset with your horse after a fall, but you should definitely evaluate and think very carefully about what you did and if you paid enough attention to your horses' wants and needs
He didn't want to jump that jump, so you beat him. Real talent you have. My boy jumps if he doesn't, I give him another chance and ask, if for some reason he say's no then it's no. He never refuses without a reason and I respect that. But we don't compete at a grade level we jump for fun. No doubt if I beat him he would jump, but I would lose my heart horse. I know what I prefer. My heart horse. .
Well said wise soul!❤
i only buy horses that really like/love to jump themselves, i don't want to force them :D worked pretty well so far XD
You’ve clearly never ridden or had experience of a horse who takes the piss then… they’re not always push button and not always so “genuine”
@@annarigsby4289 Oh I have, dunno if your talking to me, but Sure know the difference. I don't ride at 1 star or 5 star I'm 72 years old. But back in the day I rode 3 star and rode very different horses, please don't asume me you know what a person has or has not ridden by one comment.
The 3rd comment is a bit mean in mu opinion and that’s what’s I do I give another chance not hit
Getting your horse to do something from fear of a beating is no way to build relationships. Isn't it better to have a willing partner than a fearful resentful one?
1:56 she had a good seat for most of it!
Yeah especially with 1 stirrup😳
@@chickennuggetssupremacy4167*no stirrups*
Rider at 1:25 shouldn’t have whipped the horse so hard
I was going to say that if someone had not already poor horse the rider was probably doing something wrong!
@@HorseyEditzzz I really didn’t see the need for him to hit the horse so hard at a simple refusal 😕
@@jessie333 I could hear the noise of the crop!!! 😬😬😬
Yeah, I’ve dealt with refusals quite a bit and I never hit the horse, instead I give them a pat, take a deep breath, and go again with more determination.
He also whipped him after turning away which no longer connects the "correction" to the jump. Its just him hitting out of anger
Плохой лошади не бывает, бывает плохой всадник
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Exactly
Why do we have to look at the grass & dirt at the beginning of a jump gone bad? There's nothing to see..
I would so get after my students if they hung on to the reins and tore into the poor horses mouth and I would also teach them to roll when you hit the ground to absorb the fall and get the heck clear of the horse. My students all had to practice getting off a moving horse and learning how to tuck and roll when you land, not stick out a arm to break .... Old saying, if you ride enough you will come off. I am 67, still breaking horses and still coming off... lol. gotta love it.
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It's reassuring that even experienced riders fall off. I've had my horse for 3-ish years now, and I've fallen off him 9 times haha. Fell off every ride for the most recent 3 rides too.
@@jermajayjay1092 good for you.... lol. I never think about it. I just all of a sudden find myself sitting on the ground cursing...
@@donelookin3386 Yes haha it happens so quickly
@@jermajayjay1092 how is he getting you off? buck, spin?? if you want to chat I can provide my email
At 1:23 is just no- someone please teach that person to not whip your horse aggressively if they don’t go over the jump!! If the horse doesn’t go over it, it’s probably because of you or it’d your fault!
Most of these riders need to learn basic skills. They do not have center of balance. Horses can't move correctly if riders are not in correct position. Learn to ride bareback. Don't rush into jumping until you have a secure seat without hanging on the horse's mouth.
First of all. Everyone falls sometimes, these are not due to lack of basic skills nor do they need to learn to ride bareback? I had my first freak accident ride by bareback due to owning a younger horse. You don’t know the training horse and rider has received, don’t make assumptions. For example my horse is green, I’ve been the person to give him lots of training and I still fall off because he has a fear of shows and simply being outside. Ive ridden him bareback but it’s not something me or him do anymore because of when he stepped on my abdomen. I know my basic skills and have a center of balance, I fell off because he spooked, everyone has their bad days. One of the people who fell off, on the grey paint, wasn’t even holding her reins, so not all were hanging on the horses mouth. Just explaining what I believe and giving examples. Hopefully I didn’t come off as rude, but have a good day^^
@@kiley7181 I am sorry you were injured. I have left dents in the ground and gone home with cactus in me. I emulated the Native American people who never rode with a saddle.
Why is you horse afraid to go outside? Can you partner with another rider on a calm horse? Professional riders still fall, it happens. Their level of riding makes it a rare event.
Have you watched the Lippazaner riders? They do not use stirrups. They are truly balanced.
The riders in the video were not prepared for the higher jumps, mainly younger riders. Falls are going to happen when not prepared for those jumps.
No, you were not rude, but defensive.
If possible, long trail rides to relax both you and your young horse provided you have the open space to ride. NATRC is a great way to learn many things for partnering with your horse. I hope you can ride some trails, along with another or a small group of riders. Good luck to you and please wear a helmet!
@@cherylboelter7543 I agree maybe they weren’t ready for such heights. I have watched a few, not in person of course. Falling off is the way someone could learn - in my opinion - and through training of course and eventually learn to have a better center of gravity.
I have no clue why my horse is afraid of being outside, he was fine last year but suddenly this year during the show season I noticed he hasn’t been as relaxed and is quite tense. He’s been a bit better as of lately. He’s almost always outside with other horses and riders simply because of lessons there’s usually at least four of us.
I do believe the barn he was born and raised at never did take the time to realize his potential as they would only ride him directly before shoes and wouldn’t put much into his training - so his training and potential were neglected. He has been brought down in levels to resolve his show fear.
Thank you for your concern and to have this nice conversation. I do think, now reading it again, I was a bit defensive and brash, so I do apologize.
@@kiley7181 No need to apologize. Good luck with your horse!
At my riding school our instructor won’t let us jump till she Knows we’re ready
1:22 what the actual heck. Just because your horse refused a jump doesn’t mean you get to abuse them. A whip is a pressure tool not an “I’m gonna hit my horse as hard as possible so he jumps and I don’t care if I loose him I just want people to say I’m a good rider.” Kind of thing. Since that terrible person doesn’t know how to use one read all the other comments talking about it because I don’t want to explain it’s 2 am.
2:50 the girl couldnt even sit properly 100% her fault the horse did fine-
It’s never the horses fault but she just didn’t get into the jump? It’s not that big of a deal..
Exactly she’s not sitting in the appropriate way
1:23 poor horse
Exactly 💯 not only was he whipping the poor horse, but he was also pulling so tightly on the mouth that the horse couldn't lower its head to look at the jump. Stop ripping their mouths off and whipping the crap out of your horses, work on your seat, and work with the horse instead of against it.
This is AWFUL, at 1:23 the rider whipped his horse too hard that must hurt the poor horse. It's sad to see how animals get treated horribly
These animals deserve so much respect.
2:01 she sat that without stirrups I could never (yes I know she fell)
Oh barrel racers do that all the time we loose our stirrups around the barrels and some even life their leg and the stirrup falls we sometimes even turn the barrels without them
That happened to me 😭 I sat on a pony’s neck and she bucked and jumped, I already did my hands forward to put it on the ground but then she reared and I could sit back, I didn’t even know how I sat that
Wish my seat was that good I'm so jealous 😂
1:31 poor horse the ridder is holding him back so much yet spurring him at the same time and he is so sif going over the jumps
i see where your coming from but the rider is pushing the horse into the bridle which is correct
yes he is giving the horse mixed signals, he is also being very hard in the hands
It looks way worse but if he let the horse have the reins the would have gone so much faster. He was getting a nice collected canter. He also wasn't pushing him too hard with the spurrs. He was being a bit harsh on the reins but he lossened up a bit after that jump
@@macylemmen4100 have you jumped big courses like that?
@@kaleyandmac yes agreed!
Why did he hit the horse like that,a person like that should be banned to work with horses😭😡
1:17 this is abuse. He whips it before giving any leg at all and you can see it’s head pinned back because he’s yanking the reins so hard
1:54 and look at her yanking.
Abuse.
1:54 she is not yanking she's just holding on like everyone would do
The thumbnale is totally my riding when I have a wedge
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Omg yesss
2:44 ok she is very lucky that, that horse did not squash her legs!!
2:08 have you ever seen a video of your horse jump?? i would’ve retired
Ikr
Oh yeah that was horrible
to he fair, the horse had lost a shoe at the jumps before, (i’ve seen this before) and the rider did say he was going to retire after the next bad jump :)
I have NO idea why that horse was even used? Those were the most shocking jumps I've ever seen; it could have been seriously injured.
The horse (kilkenny I believe, I could be wrong.) had lost a shoe during the competition. That's why he was jumping badly.
If you had seen his other rounds, you would know how amazing he is.
at 0:37 that horse probably broke it’s leg. if you watch closely you see the front leg give out
Have you ever heard of thing called tripping and A horses leg doesn’t break that easily when it trips
1:23 crop isn’t meant to be used for punishment.
guys crops are not for whipping, theyre for extra help only if you really need it. you shouldnt need spurs and a crop. you shouldnt be beating your horse with a crop, thats not what theyre for
At :44 seconds … that’s a bad bad fall 😬
1:17 this guy dose not deserve achievement
0:42 the poor horsey 😢
1:24 That poor horse! Why are you hitting him so hard with the crop! It refused, and now you beat him up. This is so rude.
3:47 is so disgusting. You can tell its a young horse and has no jumping experience. Makes me absolutely sick.
1:20 c'est clairement de la maltraitante
i feel sorry for the white horse
That guy who beat his horse is disgusting. It’s an animal. Not a machine. People like that don’t deserve to work with horses, or any animal for that matter.
1:43 he was kicking the horse and holding him back, which gave the horse mixed signals
It's hard for me to comment on your videos because my language is Portuguse 😞 Most love your videos ☺😍☺
Why don't they teach the people to do a sitting trot over those small fences. Gives the horse a lot of confidence. Plus it helps the rider to sit in not on the horse.
1:15 Stop whipping that poor horse!
at 1:22 that man did not need to whip the horse that hard for a refusal. it is good to correct a horse but not the point where is could hurt them
And at 3:04 … don’t we all love when we go over the second jump on the neck 😂😂😂
1:56 that horse just screams green or fresh. Kinda her fault, she not only got on the horse in a dangerously wet arena but also pried her spurs into the horses sides which definitely caused discomfort and escalated the situation even more than just getting off.
1:07 NHS! Yep! You will need to call that afterwards 😂
3:37 yep I’ve totally done this before lol
No one is truly first except the queen herself
What…?
At 1:83 after the guy smacked him with the crop, the horse was obviously anxious he’s backing up and his head was pretty high. This makes me sad😕😞
2:06, that horse is OBVIOUSLY not prepared/trained enough for that show! Bros trying to fly!
i noticed on 1:23 that he started furiously whipping the poor horse, you need to understand when ur horse is having an off day and his seat wasnt good to jump anyway, u dont need to whip ur horse like that when they refuse a jump. its horrific. calm the horse and either try again but with a kind mindset or simply, miss that jump and try again another day.
At 1:38 I thought it was just needing training to not stop but now I go back to see that was such a hard hit and should not be doing that to a horse that looks like is in good shape the right way is to pet them and the horse it’s okay,make a circle,pet again and, then go and try and jump it no horse should have to go through that
I feel,like the first clip of the person lunging the horse,is trying to train in rollker witch I hate
1:22 is absolutely disgusting. Just because your horse didn’t do the jump doesn’t mean you have to beat them. If you think this guy doesn’t deserve a horse
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-not me watching this the day before my riding lesson to remind me of ways the horse might end me.-
0:37 hope the horse is ok
That guy at 1:28 slapped that horse so hard
I really hope the horses are okay, some of the falls look really bad for them
At 3:07 wtf was she doing with her hand like come on if you’re doing bouncers and that huge fence you should know not to do that lmao
she was trying to do no handed
@@emilyhetherington4739 oh nvm
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That one was great, tho I’m not sure I wanna try that move yet
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@@natashakate5687 got me neither 😂 I have tried a one handed canter but I don’t think I steer very well because we ended up going in a circle 😅 and then my reins came undone because the knot I put in them wasn’t tight enough 👌🏼👉🏼👈🏼
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00:56 was completely the riders fault. Not at all in sync with her horse
POV the third vid:
Me: OMG IS MY HORSE OK!?!?
My mom: OMG MY MONEY!!!!!
Normalement l'équitation c'est pour le plaisir si le cheval n'a pas envie de sauter on le fouette pas comme ça
Pauvre cheval
Je suis d'accord
I love every video keep it up
An diesen Beispielen sieht man warum man einen Helm tragen sollte
I wanna know more about that grey jumper and his obvious jumping issue....and why he was allowed to jump at that level with something that was so obviously wrong.
Me talking to a “pro rider” and they say they have never fallen off before and I’m like “ girl no way if your good I know you have fallen before!
does anyone know why that horse at 2:07 jumped like that? multiple jumps in the same course... seems like somethings off/hurt?
He lost a shoe
@@briannamercedes4016 no, the horse was in some kind of pain to jump but the Olympics forced the rider to jump the horse. He was against it but they forced him.
"But my horse loves to jump".
0:38 omg😢😢😢
Horrible horsemanship for the horse, he was just afraid to jump since a horse can feel your emotions, if your scared or nervous the horse can feel it too, he didnt jump because he knew their rider was anxious
Most of these were the riders making mistakes or just being plain out bad
The horse that jumped over the fence and landed with the legs tucked under. I am so very happy the horse's legs didn't break. The rest of the videos the horses' decided to dump their riders. It's like you can go over the fences, not me. I couldn't see one video where the rider and horse just kept jumping over the fences consecutively. Was that person jumping without holding the reins? That person is lucky their back wasn't broken when they landed on it. Such daredevils some of the riders!!!
Hello Melissa,how are you doing and your family,how is everything going with you?
@@nelsonwesson9644 We're all fine. Going good.
@@melissawarfield alright pretty
Okay pretty it’s me pleasure meeting you here,where are you from?
@@nelsonwesson9644 Minnesota
No horse is bad, they behave only as what they are! Humans are bad and well we know we are worse! A horse is a reflection fo you! So you know what you don't know and teaching bad lessons is a start down misery...for your horse :D
Animals rule!!
My whip is for training my young ones when they bite to bop them on the nose or to boo then on chest to stop when I do their feet or there are pushing on the door 1:23 is abusing never whip them for refusing as there is a reason why they refused :(
I crop my horse when they are being rlly bad
Remember to let go of the reins if you think you will fall or are falling, thank you :)
le cheval ne voulait juste pas franchir l'obstacle pas besoin de le tapper comme sa !
The Grey one try to Jim so high he don't jump well at all.
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Several of these were just horses being naughty but some were funny
Horses aren’t naughty its the rider
@@phoebe.ponies3869 horses can be very naughty and some of these were
@@phoebe.ponies3869 horses can be naughty take mustangs for example they aren’t broke and will do almost anything to get you off there back when the riders are doing nothing wrong, and then my horse titan is very bad at times he’ll buck when I ask to go over jumps even poles at time and I know I don’t weigh to much for him and he’s in perfect health, so that’s just him being bad
That guy whipped that horse so hard, that horse didn’t want to jump that fence ( horse fall 6 )
It’s so hard for me when I see horses like his his reins were so short if he hadn’t lost his wip the horse would have been hurt I can’t believe people put up with it
Are the horses okay? Some of they took devastating falls. Personally I feel bad for the horses who are forced to jump and the repetitive impact on their joints. Landing on their heads and necks is not good.
Nothing beats going over the fence without your horse....
Pet them and feed them more. That'll fix em.
1:23 he whipped the horse with his hand poor thing 🥺Never treat a horse like that 😔
the horse is fine i do that when its being a jerk witch that horse was doing if ur horse is being stubborn, do it becuase u show whos the boss and that it cant do that so if ur horse does that its okay to smack them there little sh*** somethimes
One whack is okay but you should never yank their mouth.
@@lydia1642 Horses don't do things just because they are jerks. That horse saw something or felt something off so he refused, likely was afraid of the fence. If you want your horse to associate jumping with being a good thing, don't punish your horse for having a normal reaction while jumping. And if you're going to punish for a refusal, you need to do it immediately, not seconds after or else the horse will not associate the whip with the refusal. Crops are also meant to be used as a tool to encourage the horse, not a tool to take out your frustrations (as we saw in the modern pentathlon...). That man's actions were uncalled for and the horse learned nothing from it, all it did was make the rider feel better about himself.
First off learn what things are called and he whipped him with a crop
@@briannamercedes4016 totally wrong
2:32 what was he trying to get out of that
1:21 ayo dude if you want to use crops then use 'em well, thank you.
Whipping a horse like that just because he refused to jump (maybe even got scared or confused) is awful and disgusting. And let's not talk about how he pulled the reins, horrible.
The first was not a fail it was a horse being excited on the lunge
1:24 people that think the horse learns like this doesn’t deserve a horse
The girl with the grey pony where it flipped over after the jump was extremely lucky the horse didn’t fall on top of her
01:22 he hits the horse right on it so that he already loses the whip
Hello Marie
3:37 That was her fault she didn't do 2-point, causing her to fall forward.
I think she was probably expecting her horse to take the deep instead of the long. Ive been there😆 but yes, you are completely correct, she just wasn't expecting it
1:23 YOU DO NOT HIT THE HORSE WITH THE WHIP SO HARD LIKE WTF
The first clip is a perfect way to break your horses jaw. Incredibly irresponsible way to handle/train a horse. If you think that is acceptable, than you need to go back to the basics and learn how to train a horse the right way or stop working with horses all together because, that is dangerous. If any of my clients did that to their horses they wouldn't be at my barn anymore. Your horse is your partner and putting a bit into their mouth then tying them down like that is a unnecessary risk to your horses life and that, is unacceptable and no way to treat your partner.
I aggree to a point however that horse was being gently lunged, anything is a hazard to them even if used correctly. That is actually a very common and normal training aid, the cord is designed to snap if a lot of pressure is put onto it. I understand it looks dangerous bit heck, a saddle is dangerous if put on wrong! That training aid is to help with relaxation- asing them to come more into the contact and as well as that - a lot of people dont have time to put on a roller with a pessoa or a saddle with side reins. That is a much more simple and still safe way of achieveing the same outcome. Secondly we have no prior information on that horse, for all you know it could of been only lunged with that on and feels better w it etc etc. We simply do not know.
Please what is name music🙏 BTW very nice video!
Is it really bad of me to be more concerned about the horse than the rider?
1:20 What a horrible thing to do. Yanking on the horses mouth and wipping them because they don’t feel comfortable with a ugly rude big pig on there back.
You are absolutely right ✅️
Why hasn't anyone told these children that the way you stay seated is by pushing down with your legs and centering your weight on that horse not disconnecting wtf ugh