The decision to single track a HSR line is one of the most shortsighted decisions on this project. This is one of the reasons why the average speed is about 101 mph. That's very disappointing considering the train is capable of 200mph. BLW has value engineered this project to death. It shouldn't take 2 hours to go 210 miles on a well designed HSR route.
@@tonyburzio4107 Right? It's almost as if he's never heard of route modeling. Or the fact that Spain, with the most extensive HSR in Europe, also makes use of single-track designs on some of its HSR routes.
@@WilliamCarterII Yeah and that adds another 1h 30m if you're hopping on a train from Union Station for example. Nobody in LA is gonna Lyft all the way to fuckin Rancho Cucamonga. The traffic heading out that way is some of the worst in LA on top of that. Not to mention $400 for a ticket? You can get a flight for like $100.
It starts on the east side of the Los Angeles metro area, so its at least an hour drive for most folks to access it. Then I'd have to park my car, probably go through a 1-hour pre-boarding ritual, then it takes two hours to get to LAs Vegas. That means its four hours, which is what it takes me to drive there in the first place. There are also premium bus lines that do round trips from various L.A. locations to Las Vegas for
The first incentive is actually learn about the train before offering whatever that was you think is factual.. Current MetroLink timetables (before upgrades due to come over the next few years) between LA Union station and Rancho Cucamonga is 1 hour 15 minutes. So there wouldn't be a need to drive "at least an hour" for "most folks". Secondly, 1 hour pre-boarding for a train? Have you ever even been to a train station? The comment is so hilariously out of touch. I'd give you a slight pass if the only station you ever went to was maybe a London or Paris Eurostar boarding with passport control but usually people will have experienced other stations outside of that so no - you don't get a pass. The bus lines you speak of will run into the same traffic along I-15 as everyone else but more importantly, you need an explanation on why someone would take a bus over a train?
Several significant errors. The owner of Brightline is Fortress Investment Group, but railroad activity started when these folks were in turn purchased by Mubadala Investment Co., which is a wholly owned company run by Abu Dhabi Government Pension Plans, one of the United Arab Emirates. Yes, remember the folks who brought the car race to Las Vegas? Yup, those guys. So, why Rancho Cucamunga? Really simple, it's a transition location for companies moving to the new cities built by the UAE in the Nevada deserts. The first city will be built around the second international airport near Primm, just past the Nevada state line. This project, along with the city already platted and approved, will be the largest project in Nevada history, and that includes Las Vegas. The train will connect New City (as yet unnamed) and Las Vegas. Brightline is a land development company, not a train company. Keep that straight.
I 1st heard of a high speed train between Anaheim and Las Vegas and/or Bakersfield to Las Vegas in the 1980s and was told it had been discussed for decades before that
@@lalakerspro .. dream on .. for some metrics, in metric system SIU .. A 220mph train = 320kph. For that u need a curve radius of 4.5km for com[fart]able in toilet ride. There is no way u can make a curve of speed eg 100mph fit double that speed. .. gonna post this on /r/shitamericansay .. rofl
@@pedromorgan99 not talking about the curve, you realize after the curve it will be completely flat down the highway median. Even trains in europe slow down in curves. We are talking about the max speed, do europeans have reading issues?
It takes 2 hours to get to Rancho and 5 to get to Vegas if youre already going to drive 2 hours why would you pay $400 to save 1 hour thats not including parking fees obviously its more convenient but is it really $400 more convenient
Well there’s millions of people who live around Rancho so it’s definitely more convenient for them lol. Also from Rancho to Vegas driving on a “good” day is about 3.5-4 hours but still $400 is crazy lol
Forget It. Amtrak eliminated The Desert Wind in 1997 due to budget cuts and was never revived. The State Of California in 27 years cannot replace ONE train on AN EXISTING track but an ENTIRELY NEW RAILROAD can be built? " Wake up Whako! We just blew that caboose all to HELL !!!"... Runaway Train.
Don t you believe it. Sooner or later the California taxpayer WILL get stuck for an incompleted project one way or another. California can t get out of it s own way.
It's NOT from LA. Not even close. If it was from LA proper, it would take 3 hours anyway, if it can even achieve that. Please realise it's a WHOLE 45 MINUTES EAST of LA Downtown via freeway speeds. So it's not really 2 hours at all. And, it will NOT be at top speed all the way, as it has to navigate the massive mountain before it finally hits top speed in SECTIONS only. Please don't call it a bullet train, it is FAR from it. So, for it to take 2 hours from Ranch Cucamonga, it tells you that it is, in fact, NOT at high speeds at all when it takes that long to get to South of the Vegas Strip.
Indeed. The decision to single track a HSR line is one of the most shortsighted decisions on this project. This is one of the reasons why the average speed is about 101 mph. That's very disappointing considering the train is capable of 200mph. BLW has value engineered this project to death. It shouldn't take 2 hours to go 210 miles on a well designed HSR route.
@@mrxman581 They did it to save costs, although I feel like they should have just spent the money now so that they don't have spend maybe double in 10-20 years when they realize a single track is not enough.
@@ripjawfang20 They continue to build sub-par railways to "save cost." Florida got a wannabe high speed train that is plagued with accidents with cars, and now they're building a single track high speed railway that doesn't even reach the two areas it claims to connect. Maybe one day Americans will finally demand better. NO reason why other countries can do this and we can't.
😊 does anyone want to explain to me............ JUST HOW IN THE HELL BULLET🚅 TRAINS OPERATE ON A SPHERICAL 🌏 EARTH MEASURING 25 THOUSAND MILES IN CIRCUMFERENCE 🤔🤔🤔 ah -DUH
This will not be true high speed rail, most of this one lime will be required to travel at normal and severely reduced speeds in most sections. California High Speed Rail will be America’s 1st truly high speed rails
This will be America's first 200 MPH train. High speed rail is not determined by average speed and even then the 100-119 MPH average speed of this route is more than competitive with many European HSR routes.
@@Ven100 Europe isn’t even close to the average standard for good high speed rail anymore (which is clearly set by the communist party of China now) so it doesn’t make much sense comparing BLW to how it barely meets those subpar european standards, unless you’re trying to run cover for a private company stealing public tax dollars to give us yet another shitty basic cookie-cutter rail line that barely goes faster than our other fastest shitty lines so they can call it high speed rail and claim private companies are beating America’s first truly high speed rail LINES being built by the public of the state of California.
@@MarxistNurse Saying Europe isn't even close to the standard of "good high-speed rail" because another place now has faster trains is the epitome of silliness, fanboyism, and making the perfect the enemy of the good. 🙄🙄
@@Ven100You can deny reality all you want, but good high-speed rail is now defined by the Chinese. I don’t view countries same way I judge music, because I’m not a child living in delusion, so I don’t fanboy over government entities like that. You can also cope all you want, but Europe’s rail infrastructure is also largely not advancing, and in most sections it’s actually crumbling, of course not to the extent the arrogant American’s rail lines are, but the British, the French, etc. are not too far behind if you don’t just take your mainstream media’s word for it on the matter haha. Thanks for the laugh, it was nice reading your childish comments defending more indisputably subpar public infrastructure projects being handed over to private companies to run amok. Remember, this (among many other reasons obviously) will be the reason China wins this century and the evil American empire’s imperialist ambitions crushed.
@@MarxistNurse That was a whole lot of words to say you're a child who sees a shiny new toy and immediately thinks the previous/other toy is bad or "isn't even close to good". Keep going though, you might just earn the clown status with these comments just yet. 😏
I realize now that I pronounced Cajon Pass COMPLETELY wrong. Yikes....
And also Shinkansen. It's SHIN Kan SEN.
Toponyms and place names: you just have to know 'em. I always used to pronounce Willamette wrong too. You can't determine it from the spelling.
@@passatboiwell it is called EL CAJON pass which means it’s a Spanish name and the J is pronounced with an H.
Great information, graphics and details on the project. Really great video, don't worry about the pronunciation.
Also Victor Valley instead of Victorville lol
The decision to single track a HSR line is one of the most shortsighted decisions on this project. This is one of the reasons why the average speed is about 101 mph. That's very disappointing considering the train is capable of 200mph. BLW has value engineered this project to death.
It shouldn't take 2 hours to go 210 miles on a well designed HSR route.
I was thinking the exact same thing.
This is incorrect, it's very easy to pass trains with their large sidings. The slower speed is because there is a HUGE MOUNTAIN in the way,
@@tonyburzio4107 i was about to say the same thing lol
You make this same silly statement on every Brightline West video and you get corrected each and every time. 😏
@@tonyburzio4107 Right? It's almost as if he's never heard of route modeling. Or the fact that Spain, with the most extensive HSR in Europe, also makes use of single-track designs on some of its HSR routes.
It’s not LA to Vegas..it’s actually Rancho Cucamonga to Vegas
15 miles from LA County line on the I10, to outside Vegas city, near Silverton Casino Resort.
@@ddoppster station should of been built a further north
its close enough lmao
@@WilliamCarterII Yeah and that adds another 1h 30m if you're hopping on a train from Union Station for example. Nobody in LA is gonna Lyft all the way to fuckin Rancho Cucamonga. The traffic heading out that way is some of the worst in LA on top of that.
Not to mention $400 for a ticket? You can get a flight for like $100.
@@seventh-hydrayou’re saying it as if there isn’t millions of people who live in the I.E 🤷🏽♂️ I’m sure the train will get plenty use lol
It is pronounced Ca 'Hone' pass.
Thanks for the updates, I am very interested to see how Brightline can complete this project, compared to the CA-HSR project thats taking FOREVER
It starts on the east side of the Los Angeles metro area, so its at least an hour drive for most folks to access it. Then I'd have to park my car, probably go through a 1-hour pre-boarding ritual, then it takes two hours to get to LAs Vegas. That means its four hours, which is what it takes me to drive there in the first place. There are also premium bus lines that do round trips from various L.A. locations to Las Vegas for
The first incentive is actually learn about the train before offering whatever that was you think is factual.. Current MetroLink timetables (before upgrades due to come over the next few years) between LA Union station and Rancho Cucamonga is 1 hour 15 minutes. So there wouldn't be a need to drive "at least an hour" for "most folks". Secondly, 1 hour pre-boarding for a train? Have you ever even been to a train station? The comment is so hilariously out of touch. I'd give you a slight pass if the only station you ever went to was maybe a London or Paris Eurostar boarding with passport control but usually people will have experienced other stations outside of that so no - you don't get a pass. The bus lines you speak of will run into the same traffic along I-15 as everyone else but more importantly, you need an explanation on why someone would take a bus over a train?
Several significant errors. The owner of Brightline is Fortress Investment Group, but railroad activity started when these folks were in turn purchased by Mubadala Investment Co., which is a wholly owned company run by Abu Dhabi Government Pension Plans, one of the United Arab Emirates. Yes, remember the folks who brought the car race to Las Vegas? Yup, those guys.
So, why Rancho Cucamunga? Really simple, it's a transition location for companies moving to the new cities built by the UAE in the Nevada deserts. The first city will be built around the second international airport near Primm, just past the Nevada state line. This project, along with the city already platted and approved, will be the largest project in Nevada history, and that includes Las Vegas. The train will connect New City (as yet unnamed) and Las Vegas. Brightline is a land development company, not a train company. Keep that straight.
I 1st heard of a high speed train between Anaheim and Las Vegas
and/or Bakersfield to Las Vegas in the 1980s and was told it had been discussed for decades before that
high-speed rail between LA and Vegas by summer 2028? I'll eat my hat if that happens.
It’s being done by a private company so you better get ready to eat that hat. Otherwise I will have to eat my hat 😂
@@mxdangerI don’t know man. I live in Vegas and I’m not seeing anything yet.
I'm going to make my hat out of lettuce
Gonna be more like higher speed rail
I do not sense any integrated thinking behind this project, so I have my expectation that this will drag out just like the previous one.
You pronounced cajon wrong.
Nice video! Would be appreciated if you could also mention the speeds in metric for us non american viewers too
How many stops is it going to have ? 4 or 3 ?
Meanwhile in Japan.. a regular 20 min service at 190mph++ ruclips.net/video/Cc8_kjaUorI/видео.html
this train will be 220 mph, faster than japan
@@lalakerspro .. dream on .. for some metrics, in metric system SIU .. A 220mph train = 320kph. For that u need a curve radius of 4.5km for com[fart]able in toilet ride. There is no way u can make a curve of speed eg 100mph fit double that speed. .. gonna post this on /r/shitamericansay .. rofl
@@pedromorgan99 not talking about the curve, you realize after the curve it will be completely flat down the highway median. Even trains in europe slow down in curves. We are talking about the max speed, do europeans have reading issues?
The USA must have high speed trains across the country to replace the old, outdated Amtrak
Can you do a video on the 1000 acre heartland theme park?
It takes 2 hours to get to Rancho and 5 to get to Vegas if youre already going to drive 2 hours why would you pay $400 to save 1 hour thats not including parking fees obviously its more convenient but is it really $400 more convenient
Well there’s millions of people who live around Rancho so it’s definitely more convenient for them lol. Also from Rancho to Vegas driving on a “good” day is about 3.5-4 hours but still $400 is crazy lol
Victorville isn’t Los Angeles
Rajon cajon pass
Through the WHAT pass lmao
It’s not Cajun. It’s Cajon (ca-hon). It’s a Spanish word
LOL This is not a bullet train. It will rarely get to 150 mph, much less the 200 mph of the Shinkansen.
Forget It. Amtrak eliminated The Desert Wind in 1997 due to budget cuts and was never revived. The State Of California in 27 years cannot replace ONE train on AN EXISTING track but an ENTIRELY NEW RAILROAD can be built? " Wake up Whako! We just blew that caboose all to HELL !!!"... Runaway Train.
Not being built by California.
Don t you believe it. Sooner or later the California taxpayer WILL get stuck for an incompleted project one way or another. California can t get out of it s own way.
It's NOT from LA. Not even close. If it was from LA proper, it would take 3 hours anyway, if it can even achieve that.
Please realise it's a WHOLE 45 MINUTES EAST of LA Downtown via freeway speeds.
So it's not really 2 hours at all. And, it will NOT be at top speed all the way, as it has to navigate the massive mountain before it finally hits top speed in SECTIONS only.
Please don't call it a bullet train, it is FAR from it.
So, for it to take 2 hours from Ranch Cucamonga, it tells you that it is, in fact, NOT at high speeds at all when it takes that long to get to South of the Vegas Strip.
Calm down, Skippy.
@@carsonfranHe's right, though.
Indeed. The decision to single track a HSR line is one of the most shortsighted decisions on this project. This is one of the reasons why the average speed is about 101 mph. That's very disappointing considering the train is capable of 200mph. BLW has value engineered this project to death.
It shouldn't take 2 hours to go 210 miles on a well designed HSR route.
@@mrxman581 They did it to save costs, although I feel like they should have just spent the money now so that they don't have spend maybe double in 10-20 years when they realize a single track is not enough.
@@ripjawfang20 They continue to build sub-par railways to "save cost." Florida got a wannabe high speed train that is plagued with accidents with cars, and now they're building a single track high speed railway that doesn't even reach the two areas it claims to connect. Maybe one day Americans will finally demand better. NO reason why other countries can do this and we can't.
😊 does anyone want to explain to me............ JUST HOW IN THE HELL BULLET🚅
TRAINS OPERATE ON A SPHERICAL 🌏 EARTH MEASURING 25 THOUSAND MILES IN CIRCUMFERENCE 🤔🤔🤔
ah -DUH
😂😂😂😂 cayjen passs😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 bruh 😂😂
This will not be true high speed rail, most of this one lime will be required to travel at normal and severely reduced speeds in most sections. California High Speed Rail will be America’s 1st truly high speed rails
This will be America's first 200 MPH train. High speed rail is not determined by average speed and even then the 100-119 MPH average speed of this route is more than competitive with many European HSR routes.
@@Ven100 Europe isn’t even close to the average standard for good high speed rail anymore (which is clearly set by the communist party of China now) so it doesn’t make much sense comparing BLW to how it barely meets those subpar european standards, unless you’re trying to run cover for a private company stealing public tax dollars to give us yet another shitty basic cookie-cutter rail line that barely goes faster than our other fastest shitty lines so they can call it high speed rail and claim private companies are beating America’s first truly high speed rail LINES being built by the public of the state of California.
@@MarxistNurse Saying Europe isn't even close to the standard of "good high-speed rail" because another place now has faster trains is the epitome of silliness, fanboyism, and making the perfect the enemy of the good. 🙄🙄
@@Ven100You can deny reality all you want, but good high-speed rail is now defined by the Chinese. I don’t view countries same way I judge music, because I’m not a child living in delusion, so I don’t fanboy over government entities like that. You can also cope all you want, but Europe’s rail infrastructure is also largely not advancing, and in most sections it’s actually crumbling, of course not to the extent the arrogant American’s rail lines are, but the British, the French, etc. are not too far behind if you don’t just take your mainstream media’s word for it on the matter haha.
Thanks for the laugh, it was nice reading your childish comments defending more indisputably subpar public infrastructure projects being handed over to private companies to run amok. Remember, this (among many other reasons obviously) will be the reason China wins this century and the evil American empire’s imperialist ambitions crushed.
@@MarxistNurse That was a whole lot of words to say you're a child who sees a shiny new toy and immediately thinks the previous/other toy is bad or "isn't even close to good". Keep going though, you might just earn the clown status with these comments just yet. 😏
$400 per person...lmfao.... I can drive it for $50 to and from...lmfao
.
wool socks to sleep = best sleep youve experienced 🟣🟦