Well said my brother 😅😅😅 I'm so shocked by her nusty coment she means that people can just say things about others and be punished as simply as that without going deep to the merits of the case and fout out the truth ay shame i can't believe she says this nonsense
Mme Mamphele is wrong. The matter of ethics is not the case JP is here to meet. That matter may become relevant at a latter stage. This attempt to convolute this case to advance a feminist victimhood agenda is wrong.
exactly she is loosing focus...the case is about sexual harassment, the question is was Mengo harrassed? that is what must be proven...the case is not about the court decorum
No she's not she's just an emotional bitter gogo who have hatred of man asisezukushela manje masithanda umuntu. Lesishimane sikamama besifuna ujaji ashelwe yena that is why she's bitter
@@TsheM But the fact that he started it doesn't mean that he harassed her. It's inappropriate conduct by the judge and inappropriate conduct by the complainant to lie. The ground must be kept levelled.
JPs are not angels and therefore not perfect just like any human being. Dr Ramphele herself may have had relationships with other people. The 2 adults seem to have had a consensual relationship, chats or exchanges until something went wrong and this is what is being tested here. Indeed, there should be fairness for both.
@@mosmaja2778 that's how I understand the situation. As much as it's wrong it's still human. Bill Clinton was once there to name but few. One lady, a Premier at the time dated a boy her son's age. Unfortunately, it's life.
I fully respect Dr Mamphela Rampheles view on this matter. This case must set a precendence in that no one is above the law. I salute the victim for speaking up....(speaking from first hand exposure)
This is a sexual harassment case involving a senior judge accused of engaging in inappropriate behavior with a junior employee. The commentary implies that regardless of the judge's legal outcome-whether he is found guilty or acquitted-his reputation and credibility are irreparably damaged. It further criticizes the judge's behavior, suggesting it was inappropriate for someone of his age and professional standing to exchange salacious messages with a junior employee. The text also ties this conduct to the poor performance of the judge's division, raising concerns about professionalism and accountability, particularly within the context of black professionals.
Mamphela Ramphele, who had a well-documented relationship with a married man, Steve Biko, and has two kids with him, is now positioning herself as a moral authority in criticizing Judge President Mbenenge. It’s worth questioning the credibility of someone with her own history of moral compromises when assessing her judgment on others. Oh please man!🧐🙄
@ntombirikhotso conversing about sexual matters can not be unlawful provided we dealing with adults. Women and men are equal before the law. This grown up woman did not have a problem until the problem of the collegue against whom Menge laid a complaint was seen hugged by the Judge. The issue on money that was raised at some point but not brought to finality could be the source of Judge's problems. Women are scornful
I am so terribly sorry for Andiswa. This poor woman has gone through and is going through hell because of a dirty old man. May real justice be served for once in my life time.
@@patsysmith540 the judge is also going through a lot by being falsely accused by Andiswa. She acted exactly like a jealous side. She was misled into cutting her nose to spite her face.
@@mkatekoC what qualifies you to say he is falsely accused heh? What facts can you bolster this statement as a WOMAN? The hearing has not even been concluded though😕🤷😐
Dr Mamphele is making a mountain of ice. This is a case for law to interpreted correctly. The question is there is harassment or not? Putting ethics and emotions won't serve the legal school.
Seems like it has become a norm in the field of law and I won’t be surprised if a lot of male lawyers stand by the judges side because I know a lot of the females who have been sexually harassed while doing articles in some law firms.
JP is the victim here. Mango has lied through out the hearing. Just because she sheared a tear or two we must believe that she didn't know what ukushela and sexting is. Sikhakhane will expose this liar
At his position she thought he must to propose to her , so to me I always ask this why she didn't block him. And she was in a process of divorce now it was her plan to take man down....
This woman Mengo is bitter now. Ramphele did what Mengo did when she had a child with a married man Biko. The judge's behavior was unethical I agree bt he did not sexually harass this Nondindwa. It was a willing buyer willing seller kind of transaction.
This Ramphele is lost. This is about being harrassed, not ethics. Hiding info raises eyebrows...it speaks deception. This is not about decorum. This lady is lost Ethically both the judge & andiswa are in the same pot.
The test is not that alone. You're ready for impeachment. What was the complaint about? Did the judge commit an offense of sexual harassment? These are the questions that ought to be answered? Does the judges rule of conduct have a penalty clause for such a conduct? If the tribunal finds that there was no sexual harassment, what is the likely suction available at the tribunals disposal?
Tnere are ppl mistakenly convicted for the crime neve committed coz a victim was trusted without evidence or not investigated throughly. In this case both adults flatting but the woman should have blocked him or report the first mesaage.
Guilty of what? Those people sitting in that tribunal are lawyers and are smart and educated enough to pronounce on the fate of JP, not grade 12 drop outs
The rant by mme Maphele is neither here nor there. As much as the claim is that of harassment, the process still has to be robust serious questions asked to ensure that the tribunal arrives at the correct conclusion. With so many women exposed to harassment there are also so many men who are falsely accused not only of harassment but also of rape. Sikhakhane is doing a great job.
But, Mamphela, can not talk as if she is a custodian of ethics and morality. Unequal power relationships between herself and Biko, have led to illegitimate child.What about her sexual impropriety with Biko.I carry no candle for the JPbut, those who are living in class houses must not throw stones.
Intelligence n education is not the same thing some people really don't understand what is justice n fairness according to them JP is wrong without facts
Former Justice Kampempe she's always ranting rather than putting law into perspective. Judges Matter has eloquently stated the law and the standard of judges that must be adhered to. I like how he comment without putting his emotions in this sensitive matter.
The same doctor Mamphele Mamphele said as black students our sponsorships should be terminated as black students we were seeing fridges and self catering residences for the first time
Mme Mamphele, I appreciate your righteous indignation, because indeed JP Mbenenge's conduct in exchanging explicit messages with his colleagues and nudes has exposed his weak character, but I feel it is misplaced. That said, so far, the tribunal has not yet proved the charge of sexual harassment beyond reasonable doubt. Perhaps, it's early days. But to criticise a man for pursuing a woman, you're simply going against the game of courtship. Of course, there are pitfalls when you want to enter into a romantic relationship with a colleague, because of other power dynamics that are at play. Unfortunately, in the Mbego-Mbenenge case that falutline, although Ms. Mengo has claimed it, has not yet been established. In fact, some of her texts have shown that she was her own woman and acted abrasively against the court manager and swore even at the JP. I'm sure, Mme Mamphele, you'll appreciate that romance between colleagues tended to happen a lot in our society, because of the close association the two have, that feeds to stronger bonds.
Yes, she knows from experience that 2 colleagues can have an affair. She had an affair with the late Steve Biko, and bore 2 kids for him. The last one was born after Biko's death.
@@millionairesmile1430 SHhhhhh! Sukukhwaza! These are sensitive matters. By the way, she came across as a hypocrite when she expressed her anger in Mbenenge. If sexual harassment was clear I would have understood her kneejerk reaction.
So according to this lady, if a woman complains about harassment then it should be the law and then the decision is taken there and then without any investigation???????
What is at the core of the matter here is the conduct of this judge. This judge was wrong, whether consensual or not. The power dynamic is real, and no one can say, with conviction, that Andiswa's reason for responding the way she did was not as a result of fear as she stated.
We can't prove if the complainant was indeed assaulted but The position of JP as JP could have put her under duress and We can prove with the evidence before us that JP was Unethical.
Mamphele and ilk should retire from and be left out of the South African public opinion space. She's out of touch with obvious realities canvassed during the tribunal.
This of Woman must stand together no matter what the circumstances or situation,is bcmng difficult,I trust South African Women will stand for each in difficult situations,but heey ! In some cases we will end up being called hypocrites etc…,,guys no matter what the outcome of this will be,But inyani izakohlula ubuxoki. Not by us…
Morals are to be upheld by both seniors and juniors....here it's an issue of morals for all concerned. Luckily they're both adults...what is sad is when such tribunals are done in a more punitive way....let us not negate the country's moral decay accross all board... I speak from experience...when I was young my manager started conversations that were not of moral standard, I stood my ground as young as I was...of course bore the brunt, but I continue to hold my head up high. So All of us should keep the standard...do not mislead or string along because that language is not shun on due to so much moral decay...I was even told that I must take this particular manager's name out of my CV, yet this person had been my manager on various companies for my years of work experience....so the order is tall for both...it's a two way street...it would have been better to fight in the labour court if you felt aggrieved than this...I end...I can say a lot...😢
Mama Mphahlele is is being bias and emotional. She is totally missing the point. They were both into such conduct. Why is we always turn a blind eye when woman is at fault? This is sickening 😢 both are in the wrong or they both enjoyed it
Is it a crime to date someone in an office setting? The answer is no. Many people met their partners at work. Andiswa should come clean. Her version has more holes than all the potholes in the Eastern Cape.
How do you test complaints then, Dr. Mamphela? This must be interrogated. In the absence of a policy, we cannot create one just because we are not happy. Maphela wants the tribunal to focus on a standard that does not exist. If judges are not prohibited from starting a relationship with staff members who are adults, then that is a problem that must be fixed. Where is a policy that she is talking about?
People what's wrong with Mampile Rampile. She's mixing issues. Yes the JP must be held accountable for misconduct, but the sex harassment is a total different issue which is on the table at tribunal. Talk about the alleged sex harassment and deal with its merit.
She's no victim that one. She's an adult busy doing adult things at work. There is power balance what what... Adults must be accountable for their actions and not try to hide evidence to claim the victimhood when its..... convenient🤥🤥🤥
The Good Dr is not the one to speak of “Morality Issues”, we still remember what she did to Biko household! Oh I forgot she’s probably the victim and not the Wife of Bantu Biko 🙃
Mama is using her hate for the Man and emotions on this issue, but I understand her, on basis of where she comes from... And I think young women are milead these days by such comments
Sies such an old man abusing his power. He must step down. Advocate Skhakhane must control himself. He has been angry for a long time. He needs to get some counseling.
I think Skhakhane was doing his job but also playing to the gallery just a little bit 😊. He was also applying for jobs when he said, "Don't lawyer me," or "Don't take that tone with me." He knows he will have many clients who are harassing small girls in the workplace.
The Mengo lady will lose the case and they will turn it into a emotions more than law! Moral and ethics must be taken to the HR,here the case is about law
That why she failed in a small political party called Agang. No reasoning at all, only emotions.
😂😂😂😂😂 lol
Very true
Nje 😂😂
The good Dr is on point. This Judge must be impeached. Throwing insults to her confirms how many men in this country have gone so low
Well said my brother 😅😅😅 I'm so shocked by her nusty coment she means that people can just say things about others and be punished as simply as that without going deep to the merits of the case and fout out the truth ay shame i can't believe she says this nonsense
The problem in this country is that people in power positions always want to remove each other from positions
Most black scholars celebrate the downfall of a black person to prove cleverness to the whites.
So you are ignoring his behaviour and concerned about his position?
Suzenza isidenge wena awuboni lento ine position phakathi
U miss Dr lo ongu ngcwele ngcwele.ungakhombi ngomnwe eminintsi ikhombe wena
Nenza ngathi abantwana anibazi umamele kakuhle incoko Yaba babini.benza nantoni for money
Mme Mamphele is wrong. The matter of ethics is not the case JP is here to meet. That matter may become relevant at a latter stage. This attempt to convolute this case to advance a feminist victimhood agenda is wrong.
Mamphele is confused. It was about textual harassment
Mama is confused about what this tribunal must investigate😅
Well said. Classic case of “show me the man, I’ll show you the crime”.
Absolutely!!💯
She's confused no abuse here it's a relationship.,mutual agreement haybo dokotela...
Is Mama Mphahlele a Legal Practitioner. She is more emotional and partisan than objective to be a lawyer.
No, she is just being a typical woman being driven by emotions and blabbering about.
exactly she is loosing focus...the case is about sexual harassment, the question is was Mengo harrassed? that is what must be proven...the case is not about the court decorum
Are u a Legal Practitioner?
No she's not she's just an emotional bitter gogo who have hatred of man asisezukushela manje masithanda umuntu. Lesishimane sikamama besifuna ujaji ashelwe yena that is why she's bitter
Will support Andiswa kude kubesekugqibeleni❤
Me too
Ixoki Andiswa
@@MaryMemela-e8d say that again when it happens to you.
Me too
@@CallHerBlessed1 it won't happen because I'm not hypocrite
To whom much is given, much is expected
Well said thank you
Those were my thoughts,jst was lazy to go to the bible.Pls dnt be lyk Mengo maam,dont omit that you quoting som1
@@DingaHlangani-s3b I do not have laughing emojis this side I wanted to 😂
She's correct. The judge was not even supposed to start it!
@@TsheM But the fact that he started it doesn't mean that he harassed her. It's inappropriate conduct by the judge and inappropriate conduct by the complainant to lie. The ground must be kept levelled.
Exactly! What was he doing! Man of his stature!
@@ntombirikhotso it's the nature of the beast. He was being human who was tricked at the moment of his weakness. They are both wrong.
@@mkatekoC hmm beast! Very scary analysis!!
@@ntombirikhotso we seperate issues and deal with them, emotion aside. Andiswa's complicit in this whole thing. She's no Angel.
JPs are not angels and therefore not perfect just like any human being. Dr Ramphele herself may have had relationships with other people. The 2 adults seem to have had a consensual relationship, chats or exchanges until something went wrong and this is what is being tested here. Indeed, there should be fairness for both.
A relationship with a certain married Black Conscious leader
@@mosmaja2778 that's how I understand the situation. As much as it's wrong it's still human. Bill Clinton was once there to name but few. One lady, a Premier at the time dated a boy her son's age. Unfortunately, it's life.
What if Married Man, want a 2nd wife, let's just be fair towards Judges they are human beings not Angels @@luyandamgaba3937
I fully respect Dr Mamphela Rampheles view on this matter. This case must set a precendence in that no one is above the law. I salute the victim for speaking up....(speaking from first hand exposure)
She's not doing well under cross-examination. So far, not credible
Dr. Mamphela Ramphele, co-founder of Reimagine SA is 1000% CORRECT in her analysis of THIS situation. I could NOT have said it any better.
Nonsense
This woman is too emotional, we are dealing with facts not emotion here
This is a sexual harassment case involving a senior judge accused of engaging in inappropriate behavior with a junior employee. The commentary implies that regardless of the judge's legal outcome-whether he is found guilty or acquitted-his reputation and credibility are irreparably damaged. It further criticizes the judge's behavior, suggesting it was inappropriate for someone of his age and professional standing to exchange salacious messages with a junior employee. The text also ties this conduct to the poor performance of the judge's division, raising concerns about professionalism and accountability, particularly within the context of black professionals.
Regardless of what,bad behavior.
Mamphela Ramphele, who had a well-documented relationship with a married man, Steve Biko, and has two kids with him, is now positioning herself as a moral authority in criticizing Judge President Mbenenge. It’s worth questioning the credibility of someone with her own history of moral compromises when assessing her judgment on others. Oh please man!🧐🙄
That woman was not afraid of anything. She is a liar of note. She wanted money and was not given.
Yes but as a judge you must not entertain women cause their dangerous we all know
Brilliant expose by Dr Mamphele
Why start coversing with a junior subordinate in such a manner! Being a senior a judge!! Time is up for the Judge!!!
@ntombirikhotso conversing about sexual matters can not be unlawful provided we dealing with adults. Women and men are equal before the law. This grown up woman did not have a problem until the problem of the collegue against whom Menge laid a complaint was seen hugged by the Judge. The issue on money that was raised at some point but not brought to finality could be the source of Judge's problems. Women are scornful
Love knows no boundaries. Stop acting tough.
Why is this lady convoluting this thing. This is about sexual harassment. His ethics and morals will bite him after this case is done
I am so terribly sorry for Andiswa. This poor woman has gone through and is going through hell because of a dirty old man. May real justice be served for once in my life time.
As old as he is he is not allowed to propose to an adult who is even in a process to dervoce
@@patsysmith540 the judge is also going through a lot by being falsely accused by Andiswa. She acted exactly like a jealous side. She was misled into cutting her nose to spite her face.
@@mkatekoC what qualifies you to say he is falsely accused heh? What facts can you bolster this statement as a WOMAN? The hearing has not even been concluded though😕🤷😐
@victoriaknkuna654 watch the enquiry. It's crystal clear and that fact cannot be logically, rationally and legitimately denied.
This is secondary victimisation
Most lawyers are arrogant.
Kakhulu
I agree with you Dr Ramphele
Dr Mamphele is making a mountain of ice. This is a case for law to interpreted correctly. The question is there is harassment or not? Putting ethics and emotions won't serve the legal school.
Outraged my foot,what constitution says you can't pursue a woman.
I don’t understand how does an inquiry turns into a court/ trial. They need to look into the terms of reference honestly when it comes to an inquiry.
Ramphele must go retire and rest. ❤
I think you are being unreasonable here. Age is not an issue here. A senior person has misused his position
Respecfully , Mme Ramamphele is very confused.
She doesn't know whether it's sunset or sunrise 😮
Seems like it has become a norm in the field of law and I won’t be surprised if a lot of male lawyers stand by the judges side because I know a lot of the females who have been sexually harassed while doing articles in some law firms.
JP is the victim here. Mango has lied through out the hearing. Just because she sheared a tear or two we must believe that she didn't know what ukushela and sexting is. Sikhakhane will expose this liar
And the evidence she produced?
At his position she thought he must to propose to her , so to me I always ask this why she didn't block him. And she was in a process of divorce now it was her plan to take man down....
Exactly
@@SharonKeune-zo1ziwhat evidence?
This woman Mengo is bitter now.
Ramphele did what Mengo did when she had a child with a married man Biko.
The judge's behavior was unethical I agree bt he did not sexually harass this Nondindwa. It was a willing buyer willing seller kind of transaction.
Let’s remember how Mamphele Ramphele met Steve Biko? 😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂 say that again
Tshn😂😂😂😂
How and what’s the relevance?
Lmao
They may not be aware that she was busy indoda yomuntu….😂😂😂😂😂
As much as power can work in your favour it can also work against you.
This Ramphele is lost. This is about being harrassed, not ethics.
Hiding info raises eyebrows...it speaks deception.
This is not about decorum. This lady is lost
Ethically both the judge & andiswa are in the same pot.
The test for sexual Harassment is :
.It must be unwanted
.The harasser must have been told/ made aware
This doctor has this one wrong here.
The test is not that alone. You're ready for impeachment. What was the complaint about?
Did the judge commit an offense of sexual harassment?
These are the questions that ought to be answered?
Does the judges rule of conduct have a penalty clause for such a conduct?
If the tribunal finds that there was no sexual harassment, what is the likely suction available at the tribunals disposal?
This reminds me of Kwezi and the ANC womans League, celebrating Zuma. This judge is guilty.
@@SharonKeune-zo1zi guilty of what... thought the enquiry was still in progress.
Tnere are ppl mistakenly convicted for the crime neve committed coz a victim was trusted without evidence or not investigated throughly. In this case both adults flatting but the woman should have blocked him or report the first mesaage.
Guilty of what? Those people sitting in that tribunal are lawyers and are smart and educated enough to pronounce on the fate of JP, not grade 12 drop outs
Emotional woman...the tribunal is there to ascertain the facts.
Very emotional akaphenduli lento ibuzwayo
The rant by mme Maphele is neither here nor there. As much as the claim is that of harassment, the process still has to be robust serious questions asked to ensure that the tribunal arrives at the correct conclusion. With so many women exposed to harassment there are also so many men who are falsely accused not only of harassment but also of rape. Sikhakhane is doing a great job.
Nonsense.
Mamphele, are you positive that you comprehended the question? That's quite embarrassing!
But, Mamphela, can not talk as if she is a custodian of ethics and morality. Unequal power relationships between herself and Biko, have led to illegitimate child.What about her sexual impropriety with Biko.I carry no candle for the JPbut, those who are living in class houses must not throw stones.
Brilliant interview.
Intelligence n education is not the same thing some people really don't understand what is justice n fairness according to them JP is wrong without facts
Newsroom Afrika keeps inviting people who don't understand the matter at hand very disappointing
Former Justice Kampempe she's always ranting rather than putting law into perspective. Judges Matter has eloquently stated the law and the standard of judges that must be adhered to. I like how he comment without putting his emotions in this sensitive matter.
She's emotional udokotela😂😂😂😂
Lols, this is not former justice. This medical doctors. No lawyer speak l;ike that.
Her relationship with the father of her child was also seen as power relations.
Mampele and ethics again, and yet she was Steve Bikos side mistress, allow the court to get to the bottom of this case without prejudging
Ai ai ai Ramphele ae butle.batho ba jola every single day wena o iketsa angel
She also had an affair with Steve Biko went as far having 2 kids...while Biko was married..haybo
@LeeYD2019 o sele man.she is taking that anger out on other people kgaa
Including yena. A re jwetse ka Steve Biko.
The same doctor Mamphele Mamphele said as black students our sponsorships should be terminated as black students we were seeing fridges and self catering residences for the first time
This old mama is very emotional, which clouds her judgement.
How do you protect someone who voluntarily engages in such relationship. Thus is politically motivated, now it's clear.
Is Ramphele's Doctorate an honorary one😂😂😂???
People wants to crucify anyone even when there is clearly that the complaint is lying to the cure 😂😂.
Mme Mamphele, I appreciate your righteous indignation, because indeed JP Mbenenge's conduct in exchanging explicit messages with his colleagues and nudes has exposed his weak character, but I feel it is misplaced.
That said, so far, the tribunal has not yet proved the charge of sexual harassment beyond reasonable doubt. Perhaps, it's early days. But to criticise a man for pursuing a woman, you're simply going against the game of courtship.
Of course, there are pitfalls when you want to enter into a romantic relationship with a colleague, because of other power dynamics that are at play. Unfortunately, in the Mbego-Mbenenge case that falutline, although Ms. Mengo has claimed it, has not yet been established. In fact, some of her texts have shown that she was her own woman and acted abrasively against the court manager and swore even at the JP. I'm sure, Mme Mamphele, you'll appreciate that romance between colleagues tended to happen a lot in our society, because of the close association the two have, that feeds to stronger bonds.
Yes, she knows from experience that 2 colleagues can have an affair. She had an affair with the late Steve Biko, and bore 2 kids for him. The last one was born after Biko's death.
@@millionairesmile1430 SHhhhhh! Sukukhwaza! These are sensitive matters. By the way, she came across as a hypocrite when she expressed her anger in Mbenenge. If sexual harassment was clear I would have understood her kneejerk reaction.
So umama uthi the judge was supposed to deny,tht he initiated this.??👂👂
So according to this lady, if a woman complains about harassment then it should be the law and then the decision is taken there and then without any investigation???????
What is at the core of the matter here is the conduct of this judge. This judge was wrong, whether consensual or not. The power dynamic is real, and no one can say, with conviction, that Andiswa's reason for responding the way she did was not as a result of fear as she stated.
We can't prove if the complainant was indeed assaulted but The position of JP as JP could have put her under duress and We can prove with the evidence before us that JP was Unethical.
Imagine a case of sexual harassment brought before this judge… will he judge impartially?
NO! 😢😢
No. Giving a social justification is not enough . The complainant is lying ......and getting caught...
Mme Ramphela received a dangerous kiss from Helen Zille and she died a painful death politically.
not shocked by the comments of Igang leader . She is wrong in her opinion
The case is still on.Let us not speculate.
I just wonder if this judge has ever convicted someone for sexual misconduct in a similar case situation
Mamphele and ilk should retire from and be left out of the South African public opinion space. She's out of touch with obvious realities canvassed during the tribunal.
Mamphele Ramphele should be looking after her grand children, she is irrelevant and she is being emotional about this matter.
This of Woman must stand together no matter what the circumstances or situation,is bcmng difficult,I trust South African Women will stand for each in difficult situations,but heey ! In some cases we will end up being called hypocrites etc…,,guys no matter what the outcome of this will be,But inyani izakohlula ubuxoki. Not by us…
Mamphela has lost us here.
Fact is that the judge abused his position of power to impose himself on the junior officer
Morals are to be upheld by both seniors and juniors....here it's an issue of morals for all concerned. Luckily they're both adults...what is sad is when such tribunals are done in a more punitive way....let us not negate the country's moral decay accross all board...
I speak from experience...when I was young my manager started conversations that were not of moral standard, I stood my ground as young as I was...of course bore the brunt, but I continue to hold my head up high. So All of us should keep the standard...do not mislead or string along because that language is not shun on due to so much moral decay...I was even told that I must take this particular manager's name out of my CV, yet this person had been my manager on various companies for my years of work experience....so the order is tall for both...it's a two way street...it would have been better to fight in the labour court if you felt aggrieved than this...I end...I can say a lot...😢
Mama Mphahlele is is being bias and emotional. She is totally missing the point. They were both into such conduct. Why is we always turn a blind eye when woman is at fault? This is sickening 😢 both are in the wrong or they both enjoyed it
As a country we never hold women accountable never
Is it a crime to date someone in an office setting? The answer is no. Many people met their partners at work.
Andiswa should come clean. Her version has more holes than all the potholes in the Eastern Cape.
We should report In a neutral manner without being or seeming tobe of a certain leg
What the Dr. Is saying is just pure nonesense!
Where were her morals and values when she was sleepinnng and having a child with Steve Biko while he was married?
So rich coming from uMama.....
How do you test complaints then, Dr. Mamphela? This must be interrogated. In the absence of a policy, we cannot create one just because we are not happy. Maphela wants the tribunal to focus on a standard that does not exist. If judges are not prohibited from starting a relationship with staff members who are adults, then that is a problem that must be fixed. Where is a policy that she is talking about?
Hypergamy vs leverage of power...
If Menge was not interested in the proposal of JP she should have involved the third party honesty, to confirm her not interested in the proposal
I also agree with Dr Rampeli why he started it kwasekuqaleni worse a whole J.P 🤮
It takes two to Tango bethunana
So, you mean they were dancing together in bed? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
But the case at hand is an harassment case, he has to prove himself otherwise ,
Why did she ommit the texts, that on its own smells like a dead rat
People who don't get unequal power relations here is beyond me😢
Ms Mamphele is a bitter maan she is missing the point, I agree with her on decorum of being a judge. He must be brought to book.
People what's wrong with Mampile Rampile. She's mixing issues. Yes the JP must be held accountable for misconduct, but the sex harassment is a total different issue which is on the table at tribunal.
Talk about the alleged sex harassment and deal with its merit.
She's no victim that one. She's an adult busy doing adult things at work. There is power balance what what... Adults must be accountable for their actions and not try to hide evidence to claim the victimhood when its..... convenient🤥🤥🤥
Mamphela must not lecture about morality. She has had multiple relationships at once, including with Steve Biko
The Good Dr is not the one to speak of “Morality Issues”, we still remember what she did to Biko household! Oh I forgot she’s probably the victim and not the Wife of Bantu Biko 🙃
Are we watching different matter or some aren't even watching these proceedings and rely on the media to formulate misguided opinions?
We are dealing with facts here Gogo not Emotions
Totally agree with Mnyamezeli
This is the same constitution that allows marriage btwn people of same sex
Ramphele Mamphela
Doc, lets wait for cross examination haybo...shes not reporting to JP direct..whose rights are being violated
Mama is using her hate for the Man and emotions on this issue, but I understand her, on basis of where she comes from... And I think young women are milead these days by such comments
Sies such an old man abusing his power. He must step down. Advocate Skhakhane must control himself. He has been angry for a long time. He needs to get some counseling.
I think Skhakhane was doing his job but also playing to the gallery just a little bit 😊. He was also applying for jobs when he said, "Don't lawyer me," or "Don't take that tone with me." He knows he will have many clients who are harassing small girls in the workplace.
Glad Dr. Mamphela Ramphele is not a judge
SOUTH AFRICA IS A MOVIE...
1. Basic instincts
2. The pursuit of sexual happiness
3. 50 shades of Grey
Mamphele is wrong, how many man are saving sentences for some things they have not done.
The Mengo lady will lose the case and they will turn it into a emotions more than law! Moral and ethics must be taken to the HR,here the case is about law