Exactly, from the lyrics, to the interviews to his shirts he wears to his concerts. Everyone needs to watch his crooked I interview. He says he doesnt want to be labeled "king" but aside from that, it's just a dope interview that really shows his passion for hip hop if no other interview has done that.
don't need to. It's better to listen to thousands of MCs to diversify ones' musical scope than to just one dude that a bunch of hip hop outsiders exalt.
@@koguma.newyork1 Even if that’s the case, if you haven’t heard much of Em then judging his talent and skill against others is a moot point. I’m not saying you have to know every album but if all you can name is a few singles then you really don’t know enough about the artist to make that assessment. I don’t care for e-40 but I also haven’t heard enough of his music to judge him against others. So I wouldn’t throw him in that conversation. (When I say “you” I mean, people as a whole in this particular subject)
But Em isn't even a lyricist like that he just knows how to say a lot of words Cage actually sounded good too and Em ripped of Cages style before he used to Rap and sound like AZ
This is BS cause the industry tries their best to hide Em but uplift Jay Z and Drake Em’s music and reach is just too undeniable… the gate keepers and media can do nothing about it
7:25 a thousand other mcs that are JUST AS good, ha ha ha.... yeah I'm sure you can find thousands who can do all the things EM does on a mic, nah. You're lucky if you can find one other MC that can do that. I'm talking about all that EM does in one package, and at the same level of skill, if you think there's thousands of rappers that can do that.... oh man, you're out of touch to say the least. Stop the damn cap already. You're upset that he's white, if he was black wouldn't be no thousand others MCs just as good, you would worship him. Facts.
@@maseratirachiAlready listened to him, and all others you could mention (try me). Em was inspired by Ace but Em has far surpassed it and made his own style. You seriously going to claim that Ace can do something Em can't?
Hip hop will forever be known as black music, and eminem does his best to make that fact be known every chance he gets. Theres just no valid reason to hate eminem, hes incredibly skilled, paid his dues, shows massive respect to those before and after him, and hes just a genuine dude. I guarantee anyone who truly hates eminem are those who factor in race which eminem has no control of.
wrong. You eminEM fans get so lost trying to defend him because he is white and disregard the fact that people genuinely do not have to like him. When people say they don't like your hero, you start splainin and crying about how it's not fair. The reason to hate him is not valid to you because you love him but people who don't need not have the same opinion.
@@koguma.newyork1 you're right, you dont owe me an explanation. But considering you just grouped me into your idea of a delusional fan who disregard genuine criticism (pretty much what defines a stan,) I was giving you a chance to hear you out. I'm just trying to have a civil conversation that's all. You cant be quick to basically call me a delusional "stan" (also even when my initial comment gave no context that I am,) yet be the exact opposite of that coin.
@@edwin99901 I understand but it's a crap shoot 🎲🎲tryna have a "civil" conversation with someone who believes that "there's no valid reason to hate eminEm".
This is a very solid assessment. And hard to disagree with. Glad to see and hear a actual conversation about this topic that doesn’t sound racist or crazy
Eminem wouldn't want that. I was raised in housing projects. I remember break dancing on cardboard in front of my house with a boom box blasting the furious five. Kids today don't know what a boom box is. They don't care to learn the history of hip-hop. God bless those who made it possible for MCs to do what they do today. Real hiphop heads know and love you.
It not just Em is white, it because he has a stamp of one of the greatest black producers of all time and other great black rappers Snoop and 50 cent. Its the support he has behind him on top of his lyrical content.
I don’t see him really like wanting to join in the culture that much anymore. I don’t think he considers himself part of the culture. He pretty much always knew his place early on. It’s in all his music .. I noticed he doesn’t really deal that much he might drop but he doesn’t attend like 50th anniversary or not asking you guys to hang out with anybody in the game so it is what it is never really considered culture and I don’t think he considers himself culture I don’t think his fans do anymore either.
People keep not mentioning when Eminem was underground he had a hard time because he was white. He had to climb his way up battling his way up that's how he got his respect that's how he paid his due. He earned where he is now. He made it thru the essence of hip hop.
@@raveytzib2055 Mel wrote the last verse and you can hear it in another song from 78 or 79 the rest was written by Duke Bootee. The song is Duke and Mel both singing and writing.
I dont think is possible to erase black people creation. I am white and i admire alot of things about the black culture. Especially the talent! Black people are the most talented people on earth and always will be. But you gotta admit, Em helped making hip hop global and both colors brought food on the table do to it.
@wildangel3571 Hip Hop was already world wide. I can confirm this from being stationed multiple places overseas starting in the 80's. Holland someone broke into my car, and stole nothing but my hip hop. All the clubs most popular music was Hip Hop back then til now. Just new rap faces were born into what was already growing on its own. Now there trying to fool us into going Country music 😂 😂😂
Wildangel don’t bother deaf ears for some reason I don’t know what this is with the black community. They have to be the best of everything created everything and in charge of everything. I don’t know it’s the most arrogant thing I’ve ever seen.
hip hop going global is of what importance? nothing great has occurred because hip hop is "global", eminEm is just another brick in a structure not the foundation or spire.
@@ginaj617 no it's actually people like you trying to prove that those who dislike eminEM are discriminating against him but the reality is Nobody regardless of color is required to love and worship eminEM just because you do. That's worse than arrogance.
Here we go why is race come into factor??? It’s the skill set that put him in position … hold that L …. Race was and is not a factor when it comes to skill… 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
Nothing but haters....has nothing to do with his skin color...EM is just the GOD. He's 51 years old and he's still Dropping Diamond shit. He's top notch still putting rappers to shame.
@@AffA_LaVey.. the fact that you're literally going after every comment (I just saw your comments on the same video) try to downplay Em is just... Pethetic to say the least.. 😑What makes it even worse is that you're wrong and confident.. 🤦♂️😒
Im not wrong Em has no bars he has songs like Fack he dissed gay people then hugged Elton John on stage 😂 and sacha had his ass in his face 😂 I'm confident about what im saying because I'm right Em doesnt have bars he doesn't rap over hip hop beats there more alternative hip hop fused with rock because hes not a good rapper how you stans make him out to be
@@AffA_LaVey.. Em has no bars 😐 Dissed gay ppl and then hugged Elton John..😕You're confident bcs Em has no bars 🤦♂️ Doesn't rap on hip-hop beats 🙃 He's not a good rapper 🤔.... These are your points in your comment.. And you want me to take you serious 😑!!... If there is a word can describe the level of delusion, hatred and desperation in you haters, it wouldn't be enough to... Cry silently. 😒
Caz always been my favorite sence 184 on creston and Burnside on Davison ..lightbskin Rican 59 strong. BX TBB CREW. COLD CRUS loved the battles with Romantic 5 dope as groups
Grandmaster Caz is super nice with his rhymes. Lyrically he's great..bring able too do albums songs song titles album titles selling music commercials is different story..than being freestyle rapper ot battle cat 🐈.
I'm waiting for an example of one of the "thousand" of MC's out there that even come "Close" to Eminem! So how come the other white rappers out there.. haven't hit anywhere near the level of Eminem???!!! And I've got news for you ....the Osmond brothers were out before the Jackson 5! There are several other examples that go in that direction as well! This whole thing is ridiculous!
the fact that any white rappers received an inkling of success was largely due to the dominant society who prop them up; but since eminEm has a huge african and caribbean (not American Black) following, plus affiliated with dr. dre, he gets to be the biggest name. But give it time, you'll find a way to squeeze in jack harlow or post malone since mack le more failed.
@@RubiaStorm Superrappin with the furious 5 who is fooled but you because you just found that out today. But at least you learned something today be thankful.
That’s why Eminem always mentioned the old pioneers. He doesn’t what to be the face of hip hop. He just wants to be respect.
He deserves that respect too! He's earned it!
Exactly, from the lyrics, to the interviews to his shirts he wears to his concerts. Everyone needs to watch his crooked I interview. He says he doesnt want to be labeled "king" but aside from that, it's just a dope interview that really shows his passion for hip hop if no other interview has done that.
The funny thing is, everybody who hates him be poking him, making Em finish them, increasing his legacy even more 😂
If you think there’s “thousands” of other emcee’s just as good as Em, you haven’t listened to much of Em.
don't need to. It's better to listen to thousands of MCs to diversify ones' musical scope than to just one dude that a bunch of hip hop outsiders exalt.
@@koguma.newyork1 Even if that’s the case, if you haven’t heard much of Em then judging his talent and skill against others is a moot point. I’m not saying you have to know every album but if all you can name is a few singles then you really don’t know enough about the artist to make that assessment.
I don’t care for e-40 but I also haven’t heard enough of his music to judge him against others. So I wouldn’t throw him in that conversation.
(When I say “you” I mean, people as a whole in this particular subject)
Cage ?
@@AffA_LaVey Cage was interesting but I wouldn't say he was an elite lyricist. Way below Em in that regard.
But Em isn't even a lyricist like that he just knows how to say a lot of words Cage actually sounded good too and Em ripped of Cages style before he used to Rap and sound like AZ
This is BS cause the industry tries their best to hide Em but uplift Jay Z and Drake
Em’s music and reach is just too undeniable… the gate keepers and media can do nothing about it
hahahaha sure his music is suppressed are you for real?
@@antskaljurand3091 no, his GOAT status is suppressed
@@antskaljurand3091 eminem has the most fans of any hip hop artist by far, and yeah most aren't black, thats just facts
@@Matt77125 na tech n9ne does
@@Mattone_Beats who ?
7:25 a thousand other mcs that are JUST AS good, ha ha ha.... yeah I'm sure you can find thousands who can do all the things EM does on a mic, nah. You're lucky if you can find one other MC that can do that. I'm talking about all that EM does in one package, and at the same level of skill, if you think there's thousands of rappers that can do that.... oh man, you're out of touch to say the least. Stop the damn cap already. You're upset that he's white, if he was black wouldn't be no thousand others MCs just as good, you would worship him. Facts.
Go listen to master ace then come back and respond
@@maseratirachi That’s one. Not thousands.
@@maseratirachiAlready listened to him, and all others you could mention (try me). Em was inspired by Ace but Em has far surpassed it and made his own style. You seriously going to claim that Ace can do something Em can't?
You got that right!
Knock it off
Hip hop will forever be known as black music, and eminem does his best to make that fact be known every chance he gets. Theres just no valid reason to hate eminem, hes incredibly skilled, paid his dues, shows massive respect to those before and after him, and hes just a genuine dude. I guarantee anyone who truly hates eminem are those who factor in race which eminem has no control of.
wrong. You eminEM fans get so lost trying to defend him because he is white and disregard the fact that people genuinely do not have to like him. When people say they don't like your hero, you start splainin and crying about how it's not fair. The reason to hate him is not valid to you because you love him but people who don't need not have the same opinion.
@@koguma.newyork1 tell me why dont you like eminem, I'll here you out.
@@edwin99901 that's my point. NOBODY OWES YOU AN EXPLANATION.
@@koguma.newyork1 you're right, you dont owe me an explanation. But considering you just grouped me into your idea of a delusional fan who disregard genuine criticism (pretty much what defines a stan,) I was giving you a chance to hear you out. I'm just trying to have a civil conversation that's all. You cant be quick to basically call me a delusional "stan" (also even when my initial comment gave no context that I am,) yet be the exact opposite of that coin.
@@edwin99901 I understand but it's a crap shoot 🎲🎲tryna have a "civil" conversation with someone who believes that "there's no valid reason to hate eminEm".
Em always pays homage to those who came before him.
Caz is on Point this Brother knows his History He's really in Tune well spoken
This is a very solid assessment. And hard to disagree with. Glad to see and hear a actual conversation about this topic that doesn’t sound racist or crazy
Caz said some real shit "you better be better than me!"
this mans knowlege on music history is impressive, real student of culture much Respect To grandmaster caz..
Eminem has no say in the business stuff.. that is Paul Rosenberg.. Eminem just raps his ass off.. Paul Rosenberg is the one that sells it
Eminem wouldn't want that. I was raised in housing projects. I remember break dancing on cardboard in front of my house with a boom box blasting the furious five. Kids today don't know what a boom box is. They don't care to learn the history of hip-hop. God bless those who made it possible for MCs to do what they do today. Real hiphop heads know and love you.
Shout out to grandmaster for keeping it real like a real OG
Em always shows respect to all the pioneers and legends of hip hop who came before him and has NEVER claimed to be the best.
It not just Em is white, it because he has a stamp of one of the greatest black producers of all time and other great black rappers Snoop and 50 cent. Its the support he has behind him on top of his lyrical content.
I don’t see him really like wanting to join in the culture that much anymore. I don’t think he considers himself part of the culture. He pretty much always knew his place early on. It’s in all his music .. I noticed he doesn’t really deal that much he might drop but he doesn’t attend like 50th anniversary or not asking you guys to hang out with anybody in the game so it is what it is never really considered culture and I don’t think he considers himself culture I don’t think his fans do anymore either.
The worst rap beef ever . FFS
People keep not mentioning when Eminem was underground he had a hard time because he was white. He had to climb his way up battling his way up that's how he got his respect that's how he paid his due. He earned where he is now. He made it thru the essence of hip hop.
All that back in the day shit doesn't fly in a battle. That old shit will forever be old shit.
black racists exists too.
Ironically enough, Eminem prolly still got love for Melle Mel.
Melle Mel didn't wrote his famous verse on the message!! L
yes he did and he was only about 17, while you probably almost 30 and can't write a sentence.
@koguma.newyork1 are you sure 🤔 looks like you're uninformed about that issue!
@@raveytzib2055 while u hatin' in the comment section.
@@raveytzib2055 Mel wrote the last verse and you can hear it in another song from 78 or 79 the rest was written by Duke Bootee. The song is Duke and Mel both singing and writing.
I love this 😂 because REAL RECOGNIZE REAL. This how the OG's do it!!
I dont think is possible to erase black people creation. I am white and i admire alot of things about the black culture. Especially the talent!
Black people are the most talented people on earth and always will be.
But you gotta admit, Em helped making hip hop global and both colors brought food on the table do to it.
@wildangel3571 Hip Hop was already world wide. I can confirm this from being stationed multiple places overseas starting in the 80's. Holland someone broke into my car, and stole nothing but my hip hop. All the clubs most popular music was Hip Hop back then til now. Just new rap faces were born into what was already growing on its own. Now there trying to fool us into going Country music 😂 😂😂
Wildangel don’t bother deaf ears for some reason I don’t know what this is with the black community. They have to be the best of everything created everything and in charge of everything. I don’t know it’s the most arrogant thing I’ve ever seen.
hip hop going global is of what importance? nothing great has occurred because hip hop is "global", eminEm is just another brick in a structure not the foundation or spire.
@@ginaj617 no it's actually people like you trying to prove that those who dislike eminEM are discriminating against him but the reality is Nobody regardless of color is required to love and worship eminEM just because you do. That's worse than arrogance.
@@koguma.newyork1 are you really commenting on something I wrote two months ago 😂😂 grow up
Caz is a pioneer who I respect. Well said GrandMaster Caz
A thousand other MC's as good as Em is crazy! Laughable!
Caz is the blueprint
Thousands of MC’s like Em? Not 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 or 8?
@stevie knight, check out this video. One of the greatest speaking facts.
Naw he making excuses for Mel 😂
Here we go why is race come into factor??? It’s the skill set that put him in position … hold that L …. Race was and is not a factor when it comes to skill… 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
Nothing but haters....has nothing to do with his skin color...EM is just the GOD. He's 51 years old and he's still Dropping Diamond shit. He's top notch still putting rappers to shame.
I stopped listening when the bald guy said there is a thousand emcee like Em 😑🤦♂️
But there is though gravediggaz, Esham, cage, ICP there was people doing the same style before Em
@@AffA_LaVey.. the fact that you're literally going after every comment (I just saw your comments on the same video) try to downplay Em is just... Pethetic to say the least.. 😑What makes it even worse is that you're wrong and confident.. 🤦♂️😒
Im not wrong Em has no bars he has songs like Fack he dissed gay people then hugged Elton John on stage 😂 and sacha had his ass in his face 😂 I'm confident about what im saying because I'm right Em doesnt have bars he doesn't rap over hip hop beats there more alternative hip hop fused with rock because hes not a good rapper how you stans make him out to be
@@AffA_LaVey.. Em has no bars 😐
Dissed gay ppl and then hugged Elton John..😕You're confident bcs Em has no bars 🤦♂️
Doesn't rap on hip-hop beats 🙃
He's not a good rapper 🤔.... These are your points in your comment.. And you want me to take you serious 😑!!... If there is a word can describe the level of delusion, hatred and desperation in you haters, it wouldn't be enough to... Cry silently. 😒
Exactly
Em is 🔥 em is gaving respect to all rappers before him . But old rappers never gave respect to EM... Fact is real
Nobody is as good as Em, the rappers know
You buggin
I'd rather listen to Nobody then.
Grand Master Caz Legend 💯🔥🔥💪🏾
Caz always been my favorite sence 184 on creston and Burnside on Davison ..lightbskin Rican 59 strong. BX TBB CREW. COLD CRUS loved the battles with Romantic 5 dope as groups
Come on what? No one said, " hi my name is" Slim did. He made good music. Period!
Honest.
Grandmaster Caz is super nice with his rhymes. Lyrically he's great..bring able too do albums songs song titles album titles selling music commercials is different story..than being freestyle rapper ot battle cat 🐈.
No one is erasing black history - no one could even if they tried LOL. Read a book.
I'm waiting for an example of one of the "thousand" of MC's out there that even come "Close" to Eminem! So how come the other white rappers out there.. haven't hit anywhere near the level of Eminem???!!! And I've got news for you ....the Osmond brothers were out before the Jackson 5! There are several other examples that go in that direction as well! This whole thing is ridiculous!
the fact that any white rappers received an inkling of success was largely due to the dominant society who prop them up; but since eminEm has a huge african and caribbean (not American Black) following, plus affiliated with dr. dre, he gets to be the biggest name. But give it time, you'll find a way to squeeze in jack harlow or post malone since mack le more failed.
Cage the dude Eminem copied his style and Everlast was way more better than Em
@@Sunny-jz3dy Rakim Papoose Nas Beanie Siegel Jada Kiss Black Thought Steady B Rass Kass . I can go on
@@bwalker665bw None of those guys are legends? Like stop talking...
🔥
Who cares what a bunch of washed up rappers from the 80's think lol. It doesn't matter what you think.
Washed up rappers from the 80's? These are the pioneers - the originators of Hip Hop. You better put some respek on it. 💯💯💯
Em is the GOAT periottttt
Eminem could fart on the mic and people would say oh man em dope. Who listens to Eminem? I still bump Mel weekly.
@@RubiaStorm Reading skills are lacking.
@@RubiaStorm Reading 101 this guy needs help.
@@RubiaStorm You know nothing Mel wrote the last part of the song ,starting with a child is born. Go do your research before trying to school others.
@@RubiaStorm Superrappin with the furious 5 who is fooled but you because you just found that out today. But at least you learned something today be thankful.
@@RubiaStorm "it's interesting to see you would also believe about Superrapping" Communication is not your strong point.
Em not the best , check out k rino
Just did. Not great.
Come on man. Stop hating and recognize. You all sounded like a bunch of old bitter ladies talking in the corner.