Brilliant! I'm a real novice restoring my TEF 20, I've started at the PTO and going to move forward along the tractor, fixing as I go. This was very helpful, easy to understand and follow
I'm over here in the States and have a to20 myself. Your videos are incredibly helpful for me! Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Parts for these tractors are still somehow dirt cheap and they are everywhere in my area. You are helping keep mine working great.
Great value Lance! I've never been near a tractor and probably never will but your insights and practical experience make 'common sense' a real handy tool to pull out of the box when jobs start to get a bit complex. Applies to all walks of life, not just in the workshops. Keep on keeping on.
Great videos Lance. I have fully rebuilt a ferguson tvo from scrapper to show tractor and your videos are always a great help! Keep up the good work. From Paschal in Ireland 🇮🇪
Hi lance joe from ireland thanks to you I now know why my lift was dropping on my Ted 20 those 3 rings on the piston .am replacing it with one ring ..great video well explained 👌👌
Hello Lance, I am trying to remove that big flat ring out and it's a real bugger as you said, I'll keep trying to get it out and I have the new type to go in after.! Love your videos mate. Jim in Dumfries & Galloway.
When I rebuilt my TED I bought the PTO shaft you are talking about with 1 3/8" stud. Very disappointing crap though. After working less than 10 hours with the tractor oil came out of the shaft seal. I have a new sparex seal here but no idea if I can change it as it looks different than the original one.
We get a good run from both Bareco and Sparex pto upgrade shafts. You will need to buy the seal for the upgrade shaft not the original one. Look for grass that has been spun into the seal.
@@BundyBearsShed I finally made it. It worked completely the other way. The snap ring is sitting on the shaft and not inside of the housing. And after removing the snap ring you have to pull the whole shaft through the bearing sitting inside of the housing. Finding parts in Germany is maybe not as easy as in Australia. The seal I got is from sparex and it has the leather lip and as well the rubber lip with the spring behind. Looks like a modern version of the old seal with the leather only. Same principle as you find at the front where the crankshaft goes through the timing cover.
Thanks for the video! Nice to see it done. Just to be picky: hitting a bearing (transferring the hammer shock through the balls) is not a good idea. You will have brinnelled the balls and races (made slight indentations into them). That's where they will start wearing now. The proper way is to support the shaft by the outer bearing ring to fit the housing. A suitable larger pipe standing vertically on the ground is the better way to fit the housing. Next time, eh?
Yeah fair comment Joe, There is very little force though, if I did it in a press I would do that but the main tension here is the seal as they are very tight and the bearing is almost a sliding fit.
I just changed my seal but found a small hole in housing to release that nasty sure clip. I pushed in the hole with an awl and it pushed the clip enough to get under it with a screw driver. Did not damage it .
@@BundyBearsShed Ok thanks. It's just that because the end is bigger ( 1" 3/8 ) than the shaft ( 1" 1/8 ) I don't see how I can get it off that end? Surely it has to slide off the front?
Hi lance , I’m just trying to remove my pto shaft but the outer housing Is seized tight , I have the bolts out , but can’t turn it or get a screwdriver or anything in behind it !! Any other way of getting it out of the tractor as want to remove my pump ??cheers mark
Some times they twist over time and it is a real problem but usually you can get them to move a little. I have had to split tractors and cut the shaft at times.
Hey Lance Do you supply the two off circlips to fit the new bearing and seal on the PTO shaft of a TED 20 grey Fergy. I bought the new bearing and seal from QLD tractor spares not realising that I would need the new circlips. I have searched the web and QLD tractor spares but cannot find these circlips. I appreciate any help that you can supply. Thanks Bill
We do them have a look here queenslandtractorspares.com.au/product/ferguson-te20-rear-pto-repair-kit-with-new-style-rubber-seal/ Ring the shop and they will be able to sort it for you.
Hey Bundy, my 135 massy has 4 forward gears and hi and low range so I assume it is considered an 8 speed ,if this makes any difference. I think it is an 72 model! Your videos are great, thanks!😇🤠🇺🇸
Hey Lance, watched your video and thought I'd give it a crack. The PTO housing separated easily and slides freely however it will not come out further than about 1 inch. I have pushed it back in and pulled out gently, rapidly many times with no luck. I tried with a pry bar but have been cautious not to go to hard, still no luck. I have a 1953 grey Fergie Any thoughts or suggestions?
G Day Anthony, It sounds like your "PTO shaft has been twisted in side and will not pull out through the pump. Sometimes you will need to split the tractor to get them apart.
@@BundyBearsShed Will using a pry bar cause damage. As I say I havent lent on it very had, Yet. I will probably need to split it any way as it appears I have other oil leaks as well (split pin just forward of gear box sump plug and drain in bell housing). Given I am new to these machines can you give me an idea where the oil may be coming from and hopfully a video link to show spitting this tractor and necessary repairs. Thanks for help so far and any future help.
hi Lance - cant seem to get the PTO shaft to slide out any more than about 2-3inches (just to the back of the bearing housing).- seems to bind up somewhere. Any ideas? should I jst put a drift thru the hole in the end of the pto shaft & tap it back?? not sure what year model it is (has a zenith 24T2 carby) tar
OOps - jst read your reply to others who have had probs removing the pto shaft. If I apply a pulling force to the shaft will that damage the hydraulic pump?? How much $ is a new pto shaft? R
I have enjoyed watching your videos. I have watched you remove the PTO shaft on the TE20 tractor and it looks easy. Mine is only pulling out about three quarters of an inch and I can't get it any farther. I have engaged and unengaged the PTO, put the tractor in neutral, made sure there is no hydraulic pressure on it and it will still move only the three quarters of an inch freely. I was considering using a slide hammer to try to remove it but didn't want to damage the pump. Any suggestions, Thanks
Your shaft will be twisted in front of the pump, I have had to split reactors or work through the top to get some off. It comes from not using a slip clutch.
Hi Lance, your videos are great, thanks. Got a problem with a new PTO shaft I bought. It goes all the way in to the old TEA20 diff housing but stops short off 5mm. I am told I should grind some excess off in either the PTO collar or the tractor diff housing. I am not sure how to do this or if its going to damage the parts. Any ideas? thanks
G Day Ed, Sit the two shafts next to each other and make sure the shafts are the same. The things to look for are the length of the inner spline is the same length as the old etc. I was told of one that wasnt machined quite right so worth a good look with verniers etc.
@@BundyBearsShed Ok! Thanks for replying so fast! I have been working on my great grandfathers TE20 and have found your channel amazing! Thanks so much!
And to add, Could you do a video on fitting Barnwell sleeves for folks who don't have access to a lathe?, I've used them, bloody great- but for the uninitiated a little troublesome I would guess?, J, again.
I had to go and google Barnwell Sleeves, we call them Speedi Sleeves over here and I don't use them often as I usually turn up a sleeve myself. Leave it with me I will see if I can work one in to a job.
Thanks Lance is it the same for all the T20 Ferguson tractors, and can I ask is that a home made vice in the first part of the video, if so it's the business great piece to have in the work shop.Cheers.Jimmy.
GDay Beår 😉🤙🏼 I’ve got 2X Fergïes ín Need of same seal 🦭 replacements, so Cheers 🍻 for the ‘Heads 🆙’❗️ My Deår Få🌱her., passed away., 🕊 recently., so.., ThanKs 🙏🏻 Again for your Welcomed, Custodial Review ✅ 🐝 🦋ëLL 🙂🖖🏼
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Brilliant!
I'm a real novice restoring my TEF 20, I've started at the PTO and going to move forward along the tractor, fixing as I go.
This was very helpful, easy to understand and follow
Best of luck!
I'm over here in the States and have a to20 myself. Your videos are incredibly helpful for me! Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Parts for these tractors are still somehow dirt cheap and they are everywhere in my area.
You are helping keep mine working great.
Glad to help!
Great value Lance! I've never been near a tractor and probably never will but your insights and practical experience make 'common sense' a real handy tool to pull out of the box when jobs start to get a bit complex. Applies to all walks of life, not just in the workshops. Keep on keeping on.
G Day Mark, Yes sadly common sense isn't that common any more, bloody shame really. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Lance, great video. Was a big help changing the seal on a 1959 Dexta. Very same design. 👍
Glad it helped! There is a lot in common with them it seems.
This the Exact same as Fords 8N. This was a Great film. I hope the 8N people watch this. Thanks.
Thankyou.
Very good Lance, I watch your videos and it feels like I am an expert fixing my TEA 20 1948. It has a P3 conversion.
Im pleased it helps. Thats why I do them.
Excellent video. Your explanations are alway very clear and easy to understand along with good camera work and lighting. Thanks again!
Thanks It is all hit and miss at times but generally not too bad, I have learnt a lot.
Life saver - was totally stuck until I watched this, Happy days, back to work
good to hear Neil.
Thanks a lot for your video 😊 then it was easy for me to change the pto seals 👍🏻
Glad it helped.
I have not been able to find much on a 135-this looked very similar to what I was working on. Thank you!
Glad I could help!
Great videos Lance. I have fully rebuilt a ferguson tvo from scrapper to show tractor and your videos are always a great help! Keep up the good work. From Paschal in Ireland 🇮🇪
Glad to help
Thank you for all your hard work! It makes my life very easy! Love the amount of detail
You are so welcome!
Hi lance joe from ireland thanks to you I now know why my lift was dropping on my Ted 20 those 3 rings on the piston .am replacing it with one ring ..great video well explained 👌👌
Glad I could help
Did this after watching your video! Excellent!, many thanks
Thanks Ulf, Glad it helped.
Enjoyed this Lance. So nice to see someone do something properly eh!
G day Malc, Thanks its the only way to go.
Hello Lance, I am trying to remove that big flat ring out and it's a real bugger as you said, I'll keep trying to get it out and I have the new type to go in after.! Love your videos mate. Jim in Dumfries & Galloway.
Thanks Jim.
G'day Lance that one was a good one to watch thanks mate John
Thanks John, Glad you enjoyed it.
Absolute good hands so clean detail top bloke
Thanks 👍
Very informative. Just working on a 20 at the moment
Good stuff!
Hey lance, Great video, good that i watched your video was just going to do the seal, now going to do the bearing aswell, cheers, like your videos
thanks Aaron.
Thanks a lot. This video helped me al lot to replace the bearing. Greetings from germany
Glad it helped
G'day Lance. That was a Furgeson good job on the Furgeson seal.
For anyone interested, there is a 1 1/8" quick connect yoke available from Sparex, part# S.3430 that fits straight on to an original Ferguson PTO.
Yes and in Australia Bareco has one as well.
When I rebuilt my TED I bought the PTO shaft you are talking about with 1 3/8" stud. Very disappointing crap though. After working less than 10 hours with the tractor oil came out of the shaft seal. I have a new sparex seal here but no idea if I can change it as it looks different than the original one.
We get a good run from both Bareco and Sparex pto upgrade shafts. You will need to buy the seal for the upgrade shaft not the original one. Look for grass that has been spun into the seal.
@@BundyBearsShed I finally made it. It worked completely the other way. The snap ring is sitting on the shaft and not inside of the housing. And after removing the snap ring you have to pull the whole shaft through the bearing sitting inside of the housing. Finding parts in Germany is maybe not as easy as in Australia. The seal I got is from sparex and it has the leather lip and as well the rubber lip with the spring behind. Looks like a modern version of the old seal with the leather only. Same principle as you find at the front where the crankshaft goes through the timing cover.
Nice job Lance, as usual
Thanks Darren
thanks lance very handy tips
Thanks Craig.
Thanks Lance. Working on mine now
Have fun!
Thanks for the video! Nice to see it done.
Just to be picky: hitting a bearing (transferring the hammer shock through the balls) is not a good idea. You will have brinnelled the balls and races (made slight indentations into them). That's where they will start wearing now. The proper way is to support the shaft by the outer bearing ring to fit the housing. A suitable larger pipe standing vertically on the ground is the better way to fit the housing.
Next time, eh?
Yeah fair comment Joe, There is very little force though, if I did it in a press I would do that but the main tension here is the seal as they are very tight and the bearing is almost a sliding fit.
Great video, learned a lot,thank you sir!
Thanks Larry.
This is a Nice video! I am going to buy my own little tractor this week its a ted20! I can pick her up for 450euro's.
Sounds good, I find it a good hobby.
What is vidre. This was Ireland. Gerry Mannion.
I just changed my seal but found a small hole in housing to release that nasty sure clip. I pushed in the hole with an awl and it pushed the clip enough to get under it with a screw driver. Did not damage it .
G Day Dave, Sounds like you got a bit lucky. Good to have a win now a days.
I can't seem to find the rubber seal here in the UK, all seem to be felt.
Check the www.sparex.com website.
I have one of the shafts with the 1" 3/8 splined end. Does the bearing etc have to slide off the opposite end?
They take a different seal and bearing so I dont think so but in saying that I cant remember doing one so I might need to have a look.
@@BundyBearsShed Ok thanks. It's just that because the end is bigger ( 1" 3/8 ) than the shaft ( 1" 1/8 ) I don't see how I can get it off that end? Surely it has to slide off the front?
How many splines should the PTO shaft have on the internal side?
1952 TO 30
6 i would think, 10 on the later tractors 21 on the late 100 series.
Great video 👍
Hi lance , I’m just trying to remove my pto shaft but the outer housing Is seized tight , I have the bolts out , but can’t turn it or get a screwdriver or anything in behind it !! Any other way of getting it out of the tractor as want to remove my pump ??cheers mark
Some times they twist over time and it is a real problem but usually you can get them to move a little. I have had to split tractors and cut the shaft at times.
Hey Lance
Do you supply the two off circlips to fit the new bearing and seal on the PTO shaft of a TED 20 grey Fergy. I bought the new bearing and seal from QLD tractor spares not realising that I would need the new circlips. I have searched the web and QLD tractor spares but cannot find these circlips. I appreciate any help that you can supply.
Thanks Bill
We do them have a look here queenslandtractorspares.com.au/product/ferguson-te20-rear-pto-repair-kit-with-new-style-rubber-seal/
Ring the shop and they will be able to sort it for you.
Wow great job I am going to try this on my 135! 😇🤠🇺🇸Do you have a video on a 135 by any chance? Thanks
Yes a whole play list look for MF135 6 speed series
Hey Bundy, my 135 massy has 4 forward gears and hi and low range so I assume it is considered an 8 speed ,if this makes any difference. I think it is an 72 model! Your videos are great, thanks!😇🤠🇺🇸
Yes 8 speed by the sound of it
Hi Lance, Just put new seal in housing and it virtually fell in....is that going to be a problem
Usually you need to bump them in, have you been supplied with a metric seal?
Hey Lance, watched your video and thought I'd give it a crack. The PTO housing separated easily and slides freely however it will not come out further than about 1 inch. I have pushed it back in and pulled out gently, rapidly many times with no luck. I tried with a pry bar but have been cautious not to go to hard, still no luck.
I have a 1953 grey Fergie
Any thoughts or suggestions?
G Day Anthony, It sounds like your "PTO shaft has been twisted in side and will not pull out through the pump. Sometimes you will need to split the tractor to get them apart.
@@BundyBearsShed
Will using a pry bar cause damage. As I say I havent lent on it very had, Yet. I will probably need to split it any way as it appears I have other oil leaks as well (split pin just forward of gear box sump plug and drain in bell housing). Given I am new to these machines can you give me an idea where the oil may be coming from and hopfully a video link to show spitting this tractor and necessary repairs.
Thanks for help so far and any future help.
hi Lance - cant seem to get the PTO shaft to slide out any more than about 2-3inches (just to the back of the bearing housing).- seems to bind up somewhere. Any ideas? should I jst put a drift thru the hole in the end of the pto shaft & tap it back?? not sure what year model it is (has a zenith 24T2 carby) tar
OOps - jst read your reply to others who have had probs removing the pto shaft. If I apply a pulling force to the shaft will that damage the hydraulic pump?? How much $ is a new pto shaft? R
Shafts are not too expensive but getting yours out can be a pain. I have had people cut them out as the only option.
I have enjoyed watching your videos. I have watched you remove the PTO shaft on the TE20 tractor and it looks easy. Mine is only pulling out about three quarters of an inch and I can't get it any farther. I have engaged and unengaged the PTO, put the tractor in neutral, made sure there is no hydraulic pressure on it and it will still move only the three quarters of an inch freely. I was considering using a slide hammer to try to remove it but didn't want to damage the pump. Any suggestions, Thanks
Your shaft will be twisted in front of the pump, I have had to split reactors or work through the top to get some off. It comes from not using a slip clutch.
Thanks for your previous response. Is there a way to change the seal without removing the shaft, because that would resolve the issue I have.
Thanks for the info Lance. Can you point me to a good video on splitting a TEA 20 as I have no experience with tractors.
G Day Anthony, No I have not done one yet, should be in the near future,
What is the part number for the oil seal
queenslandtractorspares.com.au/product/tea20-ted20-tef20-rear-pto-seal/
Thanks Harrold.
Hello does the pto have to be engaged before removing the pto. Thanks
G Day David, No It cant go anywhere.
Hi Lance, your videos are great, thanks. Got a problem with a new PTO shaft I bought. It goes all the way in to the old TEA20 diff housing but stops short off 5mm. I am told I should grind some excess off in either the PTO collar or the tractor diff housing. I am not sure how to do this or if its going to damage the parts. Any ideas? thanks
G Day Ed, Sit the two shafts next to each other and make sure the shafts are the same. The things to look for are the length of the inner spline is the same length as the old etc. I was told of one that wasnt machined quite right so worth a good look with verniers etc.
What is the name of the tune in the start of the film??? Cant find nothing
Swamp Stomp it is on the RUclips open license list.
I am trying to find the conversion to a 1 3/8" for my TE20. Could you give me the link to the one you had?
queenslandtractorspares.com.au/product/1-3-8-pto-conversion-shaft-b280/
@@BundyBearsShed Ok! Thanks for replying so fast! I have been working on my great grandfathers TE20 and have found your channel amazing! Thanks so much!
Could the end cap be machined to accept an O-ring?, jus' wondered.
And to add, Could you do a video on fitting Barnwell sleeves for folks who don't have access to a lathe?, I've used them, bloody great- but for the uninitiated a little troublesome I would guess?,
J, again.
G Day Joe, Yes probably, I just received the short cover and hopefully I can play with it this weekend.
I had to go and google Barnwell Sleeves, we call them Speedi Sleeves over here and I don't use them often as I usually turn up a sleeve myself. Leave it with me I will see if I can work one in to a job.
I think people will appreciate watching an old beard(no offence!) doing it right,.
Thanks Lance is it the same for all the T20 Ferguson tractors, and can I ask is that a home made vice in the first part of the video, if so it's the business great piece to have in the work shop.Cheers.Jimmy.
G day Jimmy, The vice is a 150mm fabricated offset vice, made in India probably. They should be easy enough to buy.
Thanks
Welcome
I got a seal off you and now I’ve watched the video I want a bearing do you have one listed on eBay thank mate
It would be on the web site
Thanks mate
Where can i buy the thick oil seal can't find one help!
It depends where you are but look for a Sparex dealer, thats where I get mine.
Thank You I love your video's
Hola que tal donde puedo comprar esos mismos repuestos para ese modelo soy de uruguay
Im not sure in Uruguay.
GDay Beår 😉🤙🏼
I’ve got 2X Fergïes ín Need of same seal 🦭 replacements, so Cheers 🍻 for the ‘Heads 🆙’❗️
My Deår Få🌱her., passed away., 🕊 recently., so.., ThanKs 🙏🏻 Again for your Welcomed, Custodial Review ✅
🐝 🦋ëLL 🙂🖖🏼
Glad it helped, Im doing a similar video soon on the 1954 we are working on in the TEA20 Play List.
What is this B Blasting? Or how do I spell that to look it up on Google? Cheers
will usher G day Will, it is bead blasting, like sand blasting but with glass beads.
Yeh thanks. I'm watching your fuel tap video and just realised it was 'bead'!
Basically like a old ford
Probably the same I would think.