"Alex in the Middle" | Ep 32
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- This week on the Wizard’s Pod, David and Jen go back in time to the “Alex in the Middle” Episode. We discuss Uncle Kelbo’s visit and the tension it caused between Alex and her dad, as well as tips for how to nail physical comedy. Plus,we’re talking about being a competitive artist and what it’s really like taking a role that you’ll be known for your whole life. Oh, and we’re sharing deets about Brie Larson, Jennifer Lawrence, Jennette McCurdy, and Jack Black!
How would Jen and David use an emotoscope in their real lives? What is an” intimacy coordinator”? Which superstars have they auditioned with? How do family dynamics play into this episode? Tune in for more!
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The "mmm Disney" is everything! 6 per episode is a perfect amount 😆
I second that lol
HAHAAHHAHA
The “mmmm Disney 🤨” is a staple.
Something that I really loved about this episode that continued getting expanded on in future episodes was the fact that the writers gave Jerry and Theresa their own lives before marriage. Most Disney shows never treat parents as anything more than just parents, and treat them as people who have everything figured out. Meanwhile with Wizards, we saw that Jerry and Theresa sacrificed so much to be with each other. In this episode, we learned that Jerry had to sacrifice his powers, something that he's been working towards his whole life, just to be with Theresa, meanwhile in a future episode, we learned that Theresa had to sacrifice her connection with her family in order to raise her wizard kids, and in Hispanic culture, family is everything.
The writers giving both Jerry and Theresa lives before their marriage and showing that they both had to make sacrifices for their relationship to work will always be something that I respect them for for, because as supernatural as Wizards is, that message of sacrifice is so true to life.
So well said!!
i LOOOVE when David says Disneeeeeey it never fails to make me laugh
"Disneeey!" I LOVE IT! Keep being YOU David!😊😊
I love when they break down and talk about the episodes. Wow 2008 was a long time ago and I remember watching this episode like it was yesterday 😂😂😂💜🪄🔮
I became friends with these guys a year later. These characters were just coming back from their Chicago band trip.
Jen’s outfit was giving Kim Possible today (meant as a compliment btw!) and I’m here for it 🧡💚
Can we all appreciate David's "Mmmmm DISNEY!" Because if you're a parent, you get it!🤣✌️
I love the asides, I love the "hmmm Disneyyy" and I have never noticed Jen's hair thing before 😂 just keeping doing you guys! ❤
One thing I really love about wizards of waverly place is that I actually cared about Jerry and Theresa. There were many other Disney shows where the parents just kind of felt like filler because they had to be there. But I loved Jerry and Theresa being a part of the stories or having their own stories.
I love Alex/ Selena best podcast to start Monday with❤🪄
One of the magic artifacts from the entire show that stuck with me was the emotoscope! There was so much story potential with it and I wish they brought it back along with the wizard copier machine and magic marker among other things
So many things went the way of the dog.
I LOVE the “mmmm Disney” it should stay and never leave lol
The kelbo episodes are the best ❤
In the beginning of the show its said that wizards can't marry non wizards, but by season 4 it turns into mortals can't marry non mortals. When Alex wants to give up on the competition in season 4 she's told that she can't date Mason as a mortal bc he's a werewolf. I assume that David's dream ending for the show also wouldn't have had that plot line in the last season.
I know they’re not happy but tbh they don’t matter when it comes to viewers. Given that the show ended early bc max was too young it was one of the best show endings (the movie). So I don’t think anyone cares they didn’t like it. And wait they reinvented Harriet the spy?!? Michelle trachtenburg made that when we were kids
The best part about watching any Disney show or DCOM was the perfectly cheesy special effects 😂🙌
Just got off work and the pod just came out! Dang it's a good day, can't wait to watch! Love you guys so much
I absolutely love when Dave says Mmmm Disney ❤️
I absolutely love how early they post, can wake up and get my Wizards on!!!
So happy there back. Love Mondays and this podcast ❤❤
Happy Monday 😊 I’m so excited you’re back. This episode is amazing.😍🤩🥰 Wizards of waverly place is my favorite show on Disney Channel! 🥰❤️ I love Alex/ Selena best podcast to start Monday with❤
Merry Christmas Jen and David 🎅☃️🎄❄️
Talking about the voices made me realize how unique both of your voices are, it would be hard to find someone with the same intonation. Perfect podcast voices though haha
Im sure more of us like mmm Disney more than that one girl who hated it
Awesome episode and please don’t stop saying the Disney gag David because I love it you are hilarious😃📺
Yes, an early podcast!!
Mr. Deluise! I had no idea you were in Robin Hood Men in Tights! I wanted to ask if you met my grandfather, Joe Dimmick?! He was Dirty Ezio!
Also everyone in my family is such a huge fan of you and your father! When I would watch Wizards, my mom would tell me she watched your Dad all the time and showed me some of his movies 😊
I love his Disney thing. Can’t wait until the Shakira episode one!!! The next episode is one of my faves too! Report Card!!! Mean Girls 2 was on tv today and I watched it for the first time.
But in Peter’s ending, if Alex would have had to give up her powers for Mason, wouldn’t that mean that Justin would have had to give up his powers for Juliette?
Possibly, which would have left Max, the Kelbo of their family, the one with the powers.
but i thought the whole point of alex competing was to be with mason?
@@savvyaranda When she found out that if she became mortal she could not be with Mason that is correct. But that was different writers/different rules not what Peter had planned out.
i think they only have to give up their powers if they get with a mortal a regular human
@@Jesusmendoza_ Depends on if you are talking about Peter’s version or the version after Peter left. With Peter it was any non-wizard. The writers/producers/show runners changed it in the 4th season so it was just mortals.
Jen, I feel the same way when my hair is down.
36:11 the Ending was good and I enjoyed it cause it shows on how much they grown and how much they have matured. Justin admitting that Alex would have won if she didn’t come back to help him win and even her choosing to go back, telling him “I don’t want to win this way” instead of a easy win she wanted to be fair.
I love when he says mmmm Disney!
Love watching yall podcast.. Been watching since yall came out with it ♥️.
Happy holidays WIz-pod! And happy Monday!❤️💯
David saying f*ck will NEVER get old for me 😂
Davis dont feel bad for Mmmmm Disney! just go for it
With the alternate ending: while I like the parallel with Jerry (especially since the movie showed he was more like Alex than he let on), I don’t like the idea of Alex giving up her power for a guy. With how her family tended to look down on her I think Alex proving herself and becoming the family wizard was important.
The Russo's as you should know are not an affection family, thats why the awkward hugs work!
everybody loves uncle kelbo
Love you both. yes you can’t please everyone. I like all the little bits you both do to getter. Love to feel like I’m inside on some of your guys jokes and little bits.
I actually loved the ending that they were all happy, Alex needed her powers to stay with Mason, and Justin becoming headmaster! But it would be cute to see the parallel repeat of one of the kids giving up their powers to marry someone they love! I guess were getting that in the reboot now!! SInce Justin apparently marries a mortal!
I LOVE the alternate ending, that ending is more the wizards I know!
I literally just realized as Jen said it that Uncle Kelbo and Murray Goldberg are played by the same actor.
I love it!! Love this episode
Love Jen's note about how comedic tempo might be affected by translation
I think a better ending would be if justin won and gave his powers to alex since from the beginning he was always so smug in thinking he was gonna win it would be a good humbling moment for justin. I think with all her charcter development alex definitely deserved to keep her powers so i prefer the show ending over murieta ending. But justin giving up his powers wouldve been better.
Im pretty sure that the rule was that mortals couldnt be with any magical beings, whether that be wazards, werewolves, vapmires, etc. So if Justin lost his powers he wouldn't be able to be with Juliet and the same goes for Alex and Mason.
I love David's movie trailer voice and i don't see anything wrong when he says "mmm Disney", Also.... which Michael J Fox Documentary was being referenced? :)
I love this podcast so much
What do I have to do to become a part of the podcast? I want to talk to these guys so badly!
Don’t stop “mmm Disney”❤❤
Where are my Harriet the Spy: Blog Wars people at??!!! I loved the movie as a kid. I was sad when Disney Channel stopped playing several movies, and I didn't get a chance to see it again in the past 10 or so years. However, I'm excited to watch it again since I now have Peacock and Tubi
the Beverly Hills housewives reference was great😂💕
Jennifer unlocking memories for me of that John Cena prank thing
😂😂 10:38 I thought I was the only one who was with David I really thought Jen ment blow up like explode 🤯 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’m not a fan of Peter’s ending, personally. It was really romantic to see Jerry give up his powers for Theresa, but the second it’s a strong woman giving up her powers for a man, it feels less rewarding. Alex deserved to win and to erase all her hard work by surrendering her powers to the men in her life just feels unsatisfying. Especially for Mason, who was honestly a terrible boyfriend by the end of the series. As a 10 year old girl watching the finale in 2011, I surely appreciated seeing Alex succeed (also loved the plot twist of Justin winning initially but revealing Alex to be the true winner)
While I’m not a fan of a lot of things about season 4 & think they did a lot wrong. I think Alex giving up her power to Justin the way it actually ends makes more sense to me than her doing it for mason plot twist. Mason is a god awful boyfriend & the show was always about family love not romance & especially Alex and Justin’s relationship. So this finale while not very good in general execution makes sense to me because she always wanted Justin’s approval. Plus I think both of them need to be wizards or all of them should have been human. The show message said love overall but specifically family love over all and peters ending I feel betrays the core of the show being Alex & justin.
Definitely agree about family love being the core theme. In the real finale though, Alex doesn't give her powers to Justin. She keeps her powers and Justin gets powers through Professor Crumbs (who retires from headmaster at WizTech and passes his role to Justin)@@aishwarya8241
I would’ve loved the original ending more. Very full circle
😊😊 so cool episode 🧡🧡
It’s been a while since I watched the whole series (I’m following you guys on y’all’s rewatch journey!) But the way I see it for the whole “giving up powers for a mortal” it’s implied that full wizards live an extended life, right? Like Headmaster Crumb is like 700+ years old?? And other fantasy folk like werewolves and vampires are also said to live very long lives (Juliette and Mason dated in like, the 1700s, right?) perhaps the rule is there to not expose the magic world? Like, it would be suspicious if you were an immortal living with a mortal family and everyone watched your family age while you stayed relatively young. You have to give up your magic in order to fully immerse into the mortal world.
That means Alex and Kelbo outlive their family, that's kinda depressing to see everyone die.
I love the “mmm Disney” there could never be too many IMO
I feel -strongly- about Disney myself so I really find it funny & agree with the sentiment fully
I love Peter’s version of the ending, but would that mean that Max becomes the family wizard like Kelbo? Alex and Justin are both with non-wizards, which obviously means neither could be wizards based on the rules in the early seasons. In season four after Peter is gone though, it is said that Alex and Mason can’t be together if she is a mortal because his instincts would lead to him eventually eating her. So based on this episode’s rule establishment, Alex would give her powers to Max, and Justin wouldn’t be the headmaster at WizTech
David, please continue with "Mmmm, Disney" 😄
Happy Monday!
The hair thing gets me too! But I know how she feels with it stuck to your neck. I wear mine up all the time too for the same reason
I love the mmm Disney! I’ve caught myself doing it and realizing no one knows what I’m talking about 😂
Since you guys are doing the reboot you should bring up the idea of should move the reboot in the direct of getting rid of the wizard competition. I could definitely see the ending of the show
Love the hmmm disney tbh
I would love to hear about Mr. Deluise’s time on the show Stargate
Yes! Every time he mentions his past work I want him to bring up Stargate!
@@gaelynnpim hoping they see these comments 😂🤞🏼
I need them to talk about the episode with Harper from the future
How do I summit a video question to be answered on the podcast? How does that work?
12:05 it got real there haha
Family Ties is my favorite show!
David, you were talking about your dad in Cannonball run, I happend to see they want to do an updated remake. Would you ever reprise your dad's role?
I stand with Stevie
Jen is correct -- Spaniards do not consider their Spanish a lisp because that's how everyone in Spain speaks the language. However, there are still Spaniards that do have lisps. For those who aren't native Spaniards or linguists, it's challenging to tell which Spaniards have lisps because it sounds to outsiders like all Spaniards do, but native Spaniards, good linguists, and good speech pathologists can tell the difference between a Spaniard with or without a lisp. David has the origin story of the accent correct.
Didn’t the parallel happen though? Justin gave it to Alex because he didn’t feel right about winning because he was stuck on the branch and she helped him.
Fight me but David’s ”Mmm Disney” is kinda hawt
Yeah I don’t know if I would’ve liked Alex giving her powers up for Mason…. Especially when their relationship was kind of toxic looking back.
Plus, as a kid, Alex was like a fantasy for me of a girl who is smart enough to always get her way in the end. She was scrappy and cool and I liked seeing her in power. 🤷🏽♀️ It was something I wanted for myself and I liked seeing on-screen.
Mhhm, Disney!! Is my fave.
Wait now I’m confused…in Peter’s ending he wanted Alex to give her powers to Justin to be with Mason, but since Mason‘s a werewolf, wouldn’t she have to be a wizard in order to keep dating him? Since the rule was that supernatural people can’t be with non-supernatural people, then, by giving her powers away, she wouldn’t be able to be with him, right? Am I missing something?
Peter’s rule was wizards cannot marry non-wizards. Didn’t matter mortal or other supernatural. However Peter was unfortunately fired between seasons 3 and 4. So the writers then just made it so that supernatural people (wizards, vampires, werewolves) could not marry non-supernaturals.
So that’s why. Peter had a different idea/set of rules he used when he was in charge of the show. When he was fired those ideas and world building went with him.
@@oneearrabbitbut then Justin can’t be the family wizard unless he’s not with Juliet right so it goes to max? Idk I feel while the execution of the finale was bad it makes more thematic sense to me the center family love over romantic love becoz that’s what the show is about.
@@aishwarya8241 Agreed. And according to Peter’s rules you would be correct. But that’s what happens when you fire the guy who pretty much set the groundwork for the entire series.
I LOVE Peter's ending with Alex (winning the wizard competition and) giving up her powers to be with Mason like Jerry did to be with Theresa, BUT it wouldn't really make sense. Like, first of all, Alex HAD to be a wizard in order to be with Mason because he's a werewolf. And second of all, if she was just going to give up her powers to be with Mason, then why bother even trying in the wizard competition? Like why would she try so hard to win just to give up her powers anyway?
You have to realize though you are talking 4th season regarding Mason and Chancelor Tootietootie and the Love and Romance Council rule. Peter was unfortunately fired by that point. So what Peter had planned and his vision went with him.
@@oneearrabbit True. If Mason wasn't a werewolf (and was a mortal instead like Theresa was), then that ending would've made sense.
When is Selena coming back to the Pod?
the whole wizard competition was so dumb; i mean they spend all those years learning magic to prepare for this only to find out the contest is decided by a footrace through a maze?
To be fair it also involved a quiz and the whole griffin test. Plus they did have to use various spells to make it through the maze/hinder the others. But I get it. I mean look at the Wizard's movie. The competition there was pretty much just a giant wizard battle. Which while kind of cool does nothing to take most of the things they learned into account.
Hi! The dream ending wouldn’t really have fit the plot because I think it was in season 3, Alex gives up on the competition and she gets told then she can’t be with Mason is she’s a mortal. So if we got the dream ending, she wouldn’t have had to give up her powers to be with Mason. Dream ending probably would have worked if they never started the thing about mortals can’t date werewolves.
Didn't Jerry & Kelbo have a sister? She was the one who was like an older version of Alex
We love the mmm DISNEY😍😂🎉!!!!!
you switched places it’s the only thing that bothers me 😂 i got used to Jen sitting where David sits
36:45 i would not have like that I wanted for all the siblings to have kept their powers
Something I just thought more about after watching this podcast. I assume Jerry grew up in the Wizard world since I’m also assuming his parents were both wizards. So does this mean only one child per family gets to stay in the Wizard world (Like Kelbo) and the rest get booted out and basically banished to the mortal world? The wizard world that Disney created is honestly super fucked and I just realized it🤣
True on all counts. It’s why I sided with Stevie in her whole wizard rebellion thing. It’s like “you guys in the wizard world suck and so does your way of doing things”
I didn't want Justin to win the wizard competition! He made so many stupid choices along the way that I think Alex deserved it.
Yeah, the last couple seasons really tainted Justin. Not to mention he was perfectly fine leaving Harper and Zeke to die in the finale so he could finish the competition. That pretty much made him irredeemable.
Prank call
Caller, ''Hello, hello. I am looking for Leek Key...last name Bump''
Bartender, ''Hang on, I;ll check'' calls out to the bar, ''Is there a Leek Key Bump here? (numb)...''hey everyone quiet for a sec....I am looking for a Leaky bum''
Bayfly, ''Look behind you)
Listening a bit later… but Alex had to keep her powers to stay with Mason I’m pretty sure. Like a human and werewolf was a no no… not sure if that concept came up before season 4 but 🤷🏻♀️
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It was too late for Alex to give up her powers for Mason after the Cuckoo family yacht episode obviously. I would have preferred to see Alex give up her powers to Justin. I then would have loved another twist where Justin has to give up his powers to Max in order to be with Juliet. I also would have thought it would have been cute if Max didn’t want the powers either. I hated the way Juliet just showed up at the end. I felt the 4th season should have had more emphasis on Alex and Mason getting closer in season 4. There was a hatred I had for Mason once he got jealous in the Wizard of the Year Banquet. I felt they should have really patched that up. Juliet and Justin bothered me because again, no development. The relationships felt so lack luster by the end. It would have been cool to see none of the kids end up with powers by choice. It would have made sense because magic really caused so much chaos for each of them. The full circle of none of the kids having powers due to the love of being human and having a family.
My biggest thing was - Harper says to Alex, “did Mason break up with you yet?” Was this the break up we saw or later? I felt Alex and Mason were so toxic by the end. I wanted Dean to be with her. I hated how Alex ended up with powers by default. The way the director by the end made Alex seem useless or hopeless without magic in season 4 - bothered me. We should have seen Alex go longer without powers.
Agreed. A lot of the problems stem from Peter Murrieta being fired between seasons 3 and 4. So a lot of the storyline and world building Peter had done went with him. David and Jen have even said he was the voice of the series and that Wizards jumped the shark between seasons 3 and 4.
So yeah, that’s why.
One question I always had was if Alex won was going to be with Mason why couldn’t she keep her powers he was werewolf, not a human and they said that justin would win and get to be with Juliet but she’s a vampire so I don’t get it tbh someone explain
Love you two so much.
Jen, if your hair bothers you...why not shave your head? 😂 But seriously, would you consider doing that for a charity fund raiser. I'm sure the podcast fans could make a lot of donations.
Jennifer Looking Gooooodt😂😂🔥🔥🔥My.Wife One Day😂😂
I m so used to the dubbed voices that it s so weird hearing your real voices damn
Oh weirdddddd they're on opposite sides of the table 😅😅😅😅 idk how I feel about it 🤣
Also people prank call using *67 before the entire number
alex did not have to give up her powers because mason was not human at all so she was in the clear
Jerry & Theresa have definitely kissed a few times in the show! I remember!