0:15 Hela is actually hitscan, quite a lot of characters are hitscan but look like projectile characters. The official marvel rivals characters has dmg numbers, projectile speeds, cooldown numbers, etc shows more information that show stuff like this
@@casss8605I love Storm but in higher ranks you just get doinked by Hela because she’s just an easy target. It’s the same with iron man he just gets blown up.
@@daymianhayes2493 No she doesn't, Mantis gets another buff/heal charge for every headshot she gets. If you've got decent aim you shouldn't ever be out of charges in combat.
One thing people forget about is that Hela currently has a seasonal buff for 20% additional damage. And this boost is active regardless of if the team-up character is selected or not. Without that boost, she may not hit the same breakpoints she does now
Video suggestion: A walkthrough all 8 maps with all the important paths, useful destructible, achievement for destrying something or interacting with an npc in spawns, every thing in depth. Love the Marvel Rivals content so far btw 🙂keep it up!
Rn Im seeing a team comp pattern in ranked. Its always a Dr Strange Thor Hela Hawkeye Mantis Luna or Claok. I can see why its a common team comp. Dr Strange will counter other Helas and his ult is insanely strong for combos, Thor I think is there for the 20% damage boost to Hela and his ult is an okay throwaway ult to force defensive ults. Hela and Hawkeye dont need explanation, really strong m1s high impact low risk Qs. Luna and Mantis for their defensive ults and stuns while C&D have a defensive ult and strong utility. Its insane how I always meet atleast 3-4 of these characters on the same team in Diamond elo.
I’m diamond right now as well, and I can confirm that there will always be at least three of these characters. I actually haven’t seen Hawkeye as much as I thought I would, but I have seen a lot of winter soldier. Him being able to just hook a tank into your team causes the enemy team to fall apart.
@@hiatus2286 yeah Winter soldier is incredibly strong. Hes basically the same as Hela and Hawkeye with high damage m1s and high impact but riskier ultimate. His hooks are insanely good too.
I feel like the Thor and Cap combo can work with that as well if you replace strange or Hawkeye, he’s great for tanking hella damage while being a nuisance for the back line.
I could not hit anything with her until I learned she was hitscan within 20 meters. After learning that I totally understood how people were running lobbies with her, especially when taking advantage of her team-up for free rezzes
Let's gooo. I've been waiting for the next Marvel Rivals hero video! I've been having an absolute blast with Peni Parker now and I think you would enjoy playing around with her mines haha
Personally I think a better passive would simply be increased movement speed… it’s so easy just to walk away. Possibly also riffing off Genji from OW as well and resetting dash/leap cooldowns off a kill/assist
There is definitely a way to DDOS the game you're in. I've only had it happen to me once, but like EVERYone on my team was on comms going 'is the server lagging?' It was so bad, that I was trying to get from my spawn back to the fight, and like every 10 steps I'd take, I'd warp back 8 of them. It was extremely frustrating, as I would get to where I could almost see the fight and then BAM I was teleported back two rooms to where I had been previously. Or, if I tried to take it sloooow so my progress wasn't wiped, I'd get to a window to where I could see the fight and I'd try and put some shots in on the enemy, only to warp to like 5 feet to the left of the window I'd previously been looking out of. We're pretty sure it was from the enemy team, because their iron man wasn't having any issues from the lag and was just slaughtering us.
People recognize hela’s only counter play is making sure she is dead as often as possible. I don’t mind easy to play characters, but I prefer easy to play hard to master, if you have high tier aim you are a high tier hela there is that little to learn about her and she is stupidly strong off raw numbers alone
Literally the win button is picking her. Barely have to hit shots to frag out. She’s fun to play. But frustrating to get deleted in 2 shots by an enemy hela.
Bro I can tell people haven’t explored the game. Wolverine is her weakness that Wolverine was missing the dive. He catches her and she’s a body easy then ult take out 3 heads all at once
@whisperofthebookworm5341 I was gonna say that, even if your getting heals you lose Hela 1s with wolverine that's with damage reduction and healing factor passive. Wolverine needs a buff and Hela/Hawkeye need a nerf
That 20% seasonal dmg boos is fucking atrocious. It wouldn't be as bad if those ancor boosts were on onpy if you had the team up character on your team. But being always on guarantees that you'll always be seing her.
She is so good for such a simple character. Only bad thing is that her bird form automatically flies upward, get stuck in doorways and random geometry.
Hela is super strong but stands as one of the best lazy ranged team meta as she can actually out damage basic heals when she crits. And the only person with limited damage fall off to shut down iron man from camping in the air out of range. She reminds me of the old school Mcree those dinks mean business and feel so good
She fires two projectiles a second. Her body shot damage is 70 and headshot damage is 140. Her TTK for most characters is one second. Or you can get 4 body shots in two seconds and kill. I think the issue is that she does too much body shot damage. I don’t really get two shot headshot by Hela’s, it’s usually one headshot and two body shots, which is still a 1.5 second TTK. Why would I play spider man where you need to combo your abilities, when I could just dink with Hela?
Mr fruit: "Look at that thor, what is bro doing" *enemy thor trying his best without any Oden force (so no abilities, appart from his bubble, and no mobility), just fucking swinging 😂
Hela has only 2 types of situations: 1. She has little to no pressure on her and essentially carries the game as a result 2. She has way too much pressure on her, and makes it very difficult to get value, and most likely end up loosing Saying this from experience, if you have little to no pressure on you, it can be easy to put in work. But if divers are in your face, it can be tough to hold your own.
She also gets a 20% damage boost for the season from team up boosts, but you dont need a teammate to activate it. Same for hawkeye. This seasonal stat boost is creating this meta were complaining about, They arent this strong they just have a stat boost for the season... We need to build awareness and complain😂 unless yall like it... i hate it. Were about to have a meta they control with the new movies coming out and screw balance😂
@AceUrsineCh I didn't say you were invulnerable, but the people that dive you will most likely not have enough burst to get you. Also Hela's ult really is not difficult to avoid unless you are in the middle of nowhere. That being said usually your shift is enough to take down divers.
@@synysterR6 sorry forgot to put a comma. I meant No, your ult is not for countering divers and you are not invulnerable. You probably havent experienced Diamond+ lobbies yet but when there is a dive attempt its not just 1 guy diving you. It could be the Thor or Venom with a Black Panther or Psylock diving which even your shift wont help you get out without the help of your team. Since this is a team game you should also time your ult with your teammates' ult (Dr Strange is very common in higher elo lobbies) to guarantee value. Even if you ult and there is no one in sight, if used properly you can get 10 seconds free to push or capture an objective. Her ult is one of the most powerful in the game because of the value it brings and that and you should not waste it on a 1 off dive attempt by enemies.
My issue with her is EVERY other throwing weapon character character is projectile, but she's hit scan, and then every character that uses a gun is hit scan, EXCEPT Bucky!? Why lmfao.
Playing any game without having some sort of aim down sights mechanic feels so weird to me nowadays. But I'm still gonna try and get into this game cz there's nothing to play nowadays lol
I think they just need to nerf her ultimate. I don’t really have a problem with Hela because if I die to her I know she had to hit some good shots. There’s so many melee characters and abilities that require no skill but provide huge value. At least she requires aim
Imo it's kinda scary its taking this long to do somethin w/ Hela. I wonder if they're planning something as big as role queue or something, not that I'm for role queue, but it feels like they're either being way too patient or adding a chance equivalent to that.
Legitimately i just hate her ult. Its so free. It cannot be interrupted as shes not technically there, has a stupid health pool, and even if you kill it she doesnt die so wtf. I'd rather they revert her ult to a semi-quick free float but ditch the grand visage thing so she can actually be countered.
100 ping is nothing my internet is so bad right now I hit 1200 ping. I was supposed to have new Internet installed but the power went out all over town a couple days ago when they were gonna show up.
@drstranger4407 Shes hit scan. Making a hitscan character into a projectile character will throw off the players that play her. Its not smart to turn hitscans to projectile for that reason.
@@AceUrsineCh Imo there shouldn't be any hitscan in a game like this. Especially where there's already so few characters that have it, and literally all those characters are problematic and have incredibly high ban rates. Hitscan in Rivals feels great to use, but feels awful to fight against, since there's really just not a lot of couterplay outside of 'hide or wiggle like an idiot and pray'. This is especially so since, characters that have massive damage like Hela or Punisher typically would be incredibly immobile, so the counter would be to rush them...but they have some of the best mobility/survivability in the game on top of it, so that counter goes out of the window.
@@BucketKingu removing hitscan from a hero shooter game is a bad take, especially when there are players who would not touch projectile heroes. Its too early for us to really tell if Hela will continue to dominate in games. If she still is a problem then the damage nerfs is what she needs, not the total removal of hitscan.
@@drstranger4407 Or...get this make her body shot do 60 instead of 70 and make headshot x1.5 times the dmg. So it's 60 body and 120 headshot. There, she is now more manageable.
She does Hela damage that’s for sure.
Ah ha!
0:15 Hela is actually hitscan, quite a lot of characters are hitscan but look like projectile characters. The official marvel rivals characters has dmg numbers, projectile speeds, cooldown numbers, etc shows more information that show stuff like this
"Wolverine, nobody panic!"
Ouch.
OUCH.
I don't think his regenerative factor can heal that degree of burn.
adding mantis dmg boost makes her even more insane its ridiculous
people r sleeping on storm damage boost for now just u wait 🙌
@@casss8605I love Storm but in higher ranks you just get doinked by Hela because she’s just an easy target. It’s the same with iron man he just gets blown up.
She has to sacrifice healing for it tho
@@daymianhayes2493don’t need to heal when you’re killing
@@daymianhayes2493 No she doesn't, Mantis gets another buff/heal charge for every headshot she gets. If you've got decent aim you shouldn't ever be out of charges in combat.
One thing people forget about is that Hela currently has a seasonal buff for 20% additional damage. And this boost is active regardless of if the team-up character is selected or not. Without that boost, she may not hit the same breakpoints she does now
But no one else has hitscan :/
Video suggestion: A walkthrough all 8 maps with all the important paths, useful destructible, achievement for destrying something or interacting with an npc in spawns, every thing in depth.
Love the Marvel Rivals content so far btw 🙂keep it up!
meanwhile Black Widow: mmmmmh, I can only fire a single target bullet at a slow rate and I have no utility
The game is incredibly unbalanced
I think it should stay this away any cac could be a problem in the right hands
@@MrFoolD I'm starting to feel like it's not that Hela and Hawkeye is OP, it's just that other heroes in the same role does not give anything else
Hela is the tru hazo of Marvel rivals, I had 30-0 game where all I did was spam shots down a choke point. I didn't even know who I was hitting 🤔
I had a game close to that going 28-0.
Hazo?Hanzo? Don't we have Hawkeye? Cos his arrows hit the same way, you walk into it.
Oh my god is that Sharktoof!! Been 82 years!
I've actually started playing Rivals cause of the videos, its not as easy as you make it look
Rn Im seeing a team comp pattern in ranked. Its always a Dr Strange Thor Hela Hawkeye Mantis Luna or Claok. I can see why its a common team comp. Dr Strange will counter other Helas and his ult is insanely strong for combos, Thor I think is there for the 20% damage boost to Hela and his ult is an okay throwaway ult to force defensive ults. Hela and Hawkeye dont need explanation, really strong m1s high impact low risk Qs. Luna and Mantis for their defensive ults and stuns while C&D have a defensive ult and strong utility. Its insane how I always meet atleast 3-4 of these characters on the same team in Diamond elo.
I’m diamond right now as well, and I can confirm that there will always be at least three of these characters. I actually haven’t seen Hawkeye as much as I thought I would, but I have seen a lot of winter soldier. Him being able to just hook a tank into your team causes the enemy team to fall apart.
@@hiatus2286 yeah Winter soldier is incredibly strong. Hes basically the same as Hela and Hawkeye with high damage m1s and high impact but riskier ultimate. His hooks are insanely good too.
Teleporter abilities will always be useful in competitive, I don't think Dr. Strange is going anywhere.
Guy plays ranked guy surprised people play meta or play like rats.
I feel like the Thor and Cap combo can work with that as well if you replace strange or Hawkeye, he’s great for tanking hella damage while being a nuisance for the back line.
As a Thor player I appreciate her.
No matter how loud her ult voice line is, my teammates still dont know how to look up at the ac130 shooting them
I could not hit anything with her until I learned she was hitscan within 20 meters. After learning that I totally understood how people were running lobbies with her, especially when taking advantage of her team-up for free rezzes
is training before illegal
As soon as I found her here, in this unknown territory of a game, it was love at first sight!
She will be my main for eternity.
Been enjoying the rivals content, hope the game pops off and you keep having fun with it
Let's gooo. I've been waiting for the next Marvel Rivals hero video! I've been having an absolute blast with Peni Parker now and I think you would enjoy playing around with her mines haha
Hela currently has a damage bonus for the season, so once she loses that, I dont think people will play her as much
Not in my case. I’ll play her forever, despite any of debuff which may come her way.
@@IvoryTempestCandleOfStories I respect a guy that just plays the characters they like regardless of meta
"it's Wolverine, I'm perfectly fine" 🤣
Wolverine should have a passive to cause bleed damage that reduces healing, revieved which allows you to get some dot in.
Personally I think a better passive would simply be increased movement speed… it’s so easy just to walk away.
Possibly also riffing off Genji from OW as well and resetting dash/leap cooldowns off a kill/assist
The other Hela was just hanging out with you, floating buddies 😌 but there's no time for friend when you're fragging out!!!!
There is definitely a way to DDOS the game you're in. I've only had it happen to me once, but like EVERYone on my team was on comms going 'is the server lagging?' It was so bad, that I was trying to get from my spawn back to the fight, and like every 10 steps I'd take, I'd warp back 8 of them. It was extremely frustrating, as I would get to where I could almost see the fight and then BAM I was teleported back two rooms to where I had been previously. Or, if I tried to take it sloooow so my progress wasn't wiped, I'd get to a window to where I could see the fight and I'd try and put some shots in on the enemy, only to warp to like 5 feet to the left of the window I'd previously been looking out of. We're pretty sure it was from the enemy team, because their iron man wasn't having any issues from the lag and was just slaughtering us.
"I can't handle all this COCKtober" Mr. Fruit, 2024
People recognize hela’s only counter play is making sure she is dead as often as possible. I don’t mind easy to play characters, but I prefer easy to play hard to master, if you have high tier aim you are a high tier hela there is that little to learn about her and she is stupidly strong off raw numbers alone
god bless mr fruit uploads, always a great day when i see the glorious thumbnail
Literally the win button is picking her. Barely have to hit shots to frag out.
She’s fun to play. But frustrating to get deleted in 2 shots by an enemy hela.
Bro I can tell people haven’t explored the game. Wolverine is her weakness that Wolverine was missing the dive. He catches her and she’s a body easy then ult take out 3 heads all at once
@ maybe you didn’t notice but hela still deletes at close range and still 2 taps wolverine. He cannot compete with her damage.
@whisperofthebookworm5341 I was gonna say that, even if your getting heals you lose Hela 1s with wolverine that's with damage reduction and healing factor passive. Wolverine needs a buff and Hela/Hawkeye need a nerf
@@Даниел-з6з agreed
@@fabolousjada5070 Wolverine is absolutely not her weakness what is this low level trolling lol.
That 20% seasonal dmg boos is fucking atrocious. It wouldn't be as bad if those ancor boosts were on onpy if you had the team up character on your team. But being always on guarantees that you'll always be seing her.
I like how the silhouette of her hips sways behind the cape
10:50 Pause yourself, sir! You wildin’, Fruit!
Wasn’t around for OG overwatch days. But glad I’m here for you and the boys now!
She's hitscan somehow too which makes her a lot better over most of the projectiles
She is so good for such a simple character. Only bad thing is that her bird form automatically flies upward, get stuck in doorways and random geometry.
Hela is super strong but stands as one of the best lazy ranged team meta as she can actually out damage basic heals when she crits. And the only person with limited damage fall off to shut down iron man from camping in the air out of range. She reminds me of the old school Mcree those dinks mean business and feel so good
She fires two projectiles a second. Her body shot damage is 70 and headshot damage is 140. Her TTK for most characters is one second. Or you can get 4 body shots in two seconds and kill. I think the issue is that she does too much body shot damage. I don’t really get two shot headshot by Hela’s, it’s usually one headshot and two body shots, which is still a 1.5 second TTK. Why would I play spider man where you need to combo your abilities, when I could just dink with Hela?
Appreciate it when you explain the hero before the gameplay starts ✨️
Coming from the nuzlocke episode now I get to enjoy this great day. Keep up the work fruit
Mr fruit: "Look at that thor, what is bro doing"
*enemy thor trying his best without any Oden force (so no abilities, appart from his bubble, and no mobility), just fucking swinging 😂
Lov seeing shark in there
Hela has only 2 types of situations:
1. She has little to no pressure on her and essentially carries the game as a result
2. She has way too much pressure on her, and makes it very difficult to get value, and most likely end up loosing
Saying this from experience, if you have little to no pressure on you, it can be easy to put in work. But if divers are in your face, it can be tough to hold your own.
I love that your example for Hela being OP is losing every game you played with her
Somewhat convinced Hela is the way she is because the devs wanted everyone saying “Hela is hella good”
Winter Soldier next?
Poke-Rivals video when?
She also gets a 20% damage boost for the season from team up boosts, but you dont need a teammate to activate it.
Same for hawkeye.
This seasonal stat boost is creating this meta were complaining about,
They arent this strong they just have a stat boost for the season...
We need to build awareness and complain😂 unless yall like it... i hate it. Were about to have a meta they control with the new movies coming out and screw balance😂
10:07 Gingee from Shrek?? Is that you???
As a Mantis main : take a nap you’ve been working too hard 🤣
In my experience, save your ult and dash for when people dive you that is by far hela's biggest weakness.
No you are not invulnerable when transforming to ult form. You should use ult for getting kills and turning teamfights instead.
@AceUrsineCh I didn't say you were invulnerable, but the people that dive you will most likely not have enough burst to get you. Also Hela's ult really is not difficult to avoid unless you are in the middle of nowhere. That being said usually your shift is enough to take down divers.
@@synysterR6 sorry forgot to put a comma. I meant No, your ult is not for countering divers and you are not invulnerable. You probably havent experienced Diamond+ lobbies yet but when there is a dive attempt its not just 1 guy diving you. It could be the Thor or Venom with a Black Panther or Psylock diving which even your shift wont help you get out without the help of your team. Since this is a team game you should also time your ult with your teammates' ult (Dr Strange is very common in higher elo lobbies) to guarantee value. Even if you ult and there is no one in sight, if used properly you can get 10 seconds free to push or capture an objective. Her ult is one of the most powerful in the game because of the value it brings and that and you should not waste it on a 1 off dive attempt by enemies.
My issue with her is EVERY other throwing weapon character character is projectile, but she's hit scan, and then every character that uses a gun is hit scan, EXCEPT Bucky!? Why lmfao.
Playing any game without having some sort of aim down sights mechanic feels so weird to me nowadays.
But I'm still gonna try and get into this game cz there's nothing to play nowadays lol
Enjoying the marvel rivals vids 😊
I think they just need to nerf her ultimate. I don’t really have a problem with Hela because if I die to her I know she had to hit some good shots. There’s so many melee characters and abilities that require no skill but provide huge value. At least she requires aim
Nice to know others are affected by the ping. I thought it was just me.😅 I hope that's fixed soon.
Imo it's kinda scary its taking this long to do somethin w/ Hela. I wonder if they're planning something as big as role queue or something, not that I'm for role queue, but it feels like they're either being way too patient or adding a chance equivalent to that.
I got that cool Hela skin, so I resolved to learn how to play her.
Really curious how the first patch for the game is gonna look like
If I’m playing strange and hear that crow lover yell hell unleashed im throwing myself into that ult and tanking most of it
You should play with Luna Snow in a future video
And since Robby is a Jeff main, She perfect for him because Jeff has a team up with Luna
favorite hero by far lol, all i gotta do is aim
Guess I’m the only one that heard chief keef😭 1:55
Rhabby play a character other than Jeff challenge: impossible
Loving the Rivals content!
I might just be getting old but man this game feels so fricken hard
Yay, the only character in the game that is full hitscan! I love that I know the punchline before hearing it, but it's still funny cause it's true. 🤣
Insults wolverine then proceeds to push to deep alone and dies to wolverine.
Your the best player ever!
Uh huh its You're
What is the problem exactly if u keep missing all shots?
Insane hero
Her left click needs a slight cd after 3 shots or something. The damage is just too easy to do and never ending
Were people in China just really big fans of Thor Ragnarok?
This looks way better than OW
the fact that Hella have 275 HP while every other range character have 250 HP means that DEVS did her OP on Purpose, but whyyyyyyyyyy?
Most of the heroes people are complaining about have season dmg buffs lol
Hela is most OP and on every team in ranked facts.
The latest "this character is op" clickbait of the week, whos next week? Stay tuned
I've been maining Hela, she's bonkers
You should make a video on black panther for 1 reason alone very unga bunga so make money brain happy 😁
First game with Hela, I went 30 and 0…. I mean I ain’t mad
Legitimately i just hate her ult. Its so free.
It cannot be interrupted as shes not technically there, has a stupid health pool, and even if you kill it she doesnt die so wtf.
I'd rather they revert her ult to a semi-quick free float but ditch the grand visage thing so she can actually be countered.
100 ping is nothing my internet is so bad right now I hit 1200 ping. I was supposed to have new Internet installed but the power went out all over town a couple days ago when they were gonna show up.
I went 54-3 comp. Someone told me she aint op
I literally try and ban someone else cuz it's guaranteed the enemy team bans hela
I’m still a Hawkeye main after watching your video.
Just click heads. It’s the ultimate advice.
SHARKK
Return of the King(‘s son)
Someday she'll get nerfed and then I can finally play her regularly. She's so rad, but ain't no way I'll be part of the problem right now. lol
I guess you could say that Hela is .... Hela broken
Fighting against her is Hela annoying.
her ult is a big problem
When u starting ranked?
Character actually needs an emergency nerf. Spiderman players out here struggling for a kill this dood stealing them on accident.
BRING US VENOM !!!!
how is bluewestlo?
The console helas ain't doing all this. least not yet but I'd be ok if they started I wanna excuse to use loki more often
For me hawkeye and iron fist are my bane
I’m going to be honest I pretty much stopped playing the game every match having a hella and iron fist has gotten stale
She is strong, but not that op, i have outplayed Hela's with Squirrel Girl, Hawkeye, Scarlet Witch, Ironman, .Psylocke, Magneto, Peni and Venom.
I do like almost every hero is broken.
she's only good imo because of the seasonal boost, remove that from her so she can't 3 tap squishies and she'll be balanced
First game with her i went 44-2
Please gatekeep nerfs for like 2 more months bro plz I don’t wanna play overwatch anymore
Her body shot damage is too much lol
Keep damage make harder to hit, slower projectile speed and maybe arc ?
@drstranger4407 Shes hit scan. Making a hitscan character into a projectile character will throw off the players that play her. Its not smart to turn hitscans to projectile for that reason.
@@AceUrsineCh Imo there shouldn't be any hitscan in a game like this. Especially where there's already so few characters that have it, and literally all those characters are problematic and have incredibly high ban rates.
Hitscan in Rivals feels great to use, but feels awful to fight against, since there's really just not a lot of couterplay outside of 'hide or wiggle like an idiot and pray'.
This is especially so since, characters that have massive damage like Hela or Punisher typically would be incredibly immobile, so the counter would be to rush them...but they have some of the best mobility/survivability in the game on top of it, so that counter goes out of the window.
@@BucketKingu removing hitscan from a hero shooter game is a bad take, especially when there are players who would not touch projectile heroes. Its too early for us to really tell if Hela will continue to dominate in games. If she still is a problem then the damage nerfs is what she needs, not the total removal of hitscan.
@@drstranger4407 Or...get this make her body shot do 60 instead of 70 and make headshot x1.5 times the dmg. So it's 60 body and 120 headshot. There, she is now more manageable.