@@dewy7478 any counter measure works on IRCCM. the only difference between large and normal is large needs less as it gives off more heat. the way you defeat IRCCM is completely different than just flaring. you need to know what missile it is, what kind of IRCCM it has and then can dodge easily. if it has gatewidth IRCCM then you have to try and get the flares between the missile and you cause of how narrow the seeker head gets after launch. if it has flare rejection then you need to keep flaring to keep the seeker turned off while maneuvering out of the way of IOG guidance as if you dont move then it will still hit you cause you stayed on the same path
These days F-4S players are not joke. Failing every bombing run due to MiG-23ML, F-104S TAFs and other more faster bois, they finally gave up base bombing and armed with sparrows. It seems these stupidity moved to MiG-23MLs for now.
@@hydrolox3953 nor the r-60m/mk got buffed, both the r-60m and r-60mk are the same thing, what hes probably talking about is that the SU-22M3 used to not have R-60MK's, only normal R-60's, it eventually got R-60MK's, but in my opinion its still not that good as a fighter. Also barely any countermeasures hurts at 11.3
@watershot5941 It used to be insane back when it was introduced but has been overnerfed because according to certain individuals Russia can't have anything good
@@Cohuatl "good" for Russia typically means outclassing everything and being under-br'd alongside that. So yeah. They shouldn't have anything "good", neither should anyone else. These devs can't balance shit.
@quackerlikescrackers geeked at 2:30am using single pixel size pen and 30x zoom in microsoft paint. I check - it looks like shit, meh idgaf lets just upload it and go to bed
@slaveofsnail lol, I can’t even write ‘hello’ in Microsoft paint. Nice videos though, keep it going. (I typed the reply at like 3am, wasn’t even thinking straight)
r60m are in my opinion just very gimmicky, its like a sraam with all of its issues fixed except for flare resistance and range, very fun when they work. also seeing someone do well in the su22m4 is just surreal, normally its a noobie trap
Can you please elaborate? 🤓 I haven't played any plane that has sraam's, but from what I know the main problems of sraam is flare resistance and range, so what are the other issues then? The damage or what? I have played mig21bis a lot and for me it seems like r60mk is just better version of sraam with none of the issues fully fixed.. I'm not sure but if sraam have proximity fuse, it could be kinda even better in some rare situations..
@ both missiles turn very well, sraam technically has less max g pull but has thrust vectors to compensate for it. coupled with a very low range due to short burn time and the fact the sraam has no wings and only turns with its engine therefore when it runs out of fuel it self detonates to avoid reverse engineering (irl) as it would fall out of the sky. r60m (mk is the exact same, just export name) also has a very low range although can glide due to wings and lacks thrust v. but makes up in 10 extra g. Both missiles contend for the worst flare resistance in the entire game, both being either 1st or 2nd place depending on who you ask. The reason i compared them is because while they are different missiles the r60 family acts like a sraam with most of its issues mitigated. in short they basically play the same but the r60 is just better in every aspect but 1 (that being the flare resistance).
That’s only with cruise missile like r24, r27 and beside you should always preflare when in range of enemy or passing them otherwise it’s just skill issue
@@slaveofsnailkeep your clips short to the point dude, you downed 4 different planes and only mentioned one, maybe if you weren't on the lowest graphics setting, people would be able to tell what you're doing
The true reality is that not everyone has the ability to stay on a high swivel and still fly. So easy to launch missles yet not so easy to observe every possible direction where they can come from
Nah, skill issue. If you been on at least 9.3 you should know that if you don't constantly look around some mf will put ain9g in you back or R3R in your face.
it this plane good for ground RB (for anti-air or anti-tank purpose) ? i have it unlocked by radar SPAA's always fuck me up because i don't have enough flares and idk how to evade missiles with this brick.
Flying perpendicular and changing altitude can help. Also approach the battlefield at a low altitude like hugging the ground then pop up and launch missiles or bombs etc
Being on the receiving end of this plane, I would say so lol. All aspects AAMs and laser guided ATGMs at 10.3 are potent. Regarding mouse guided SAMs, I'd look at other nation's missiles and be aware of their range. Turn and fly away from their direction to burn out their motor or break line of sight to stop them from tracking you. Flares can help break *radar* lock, but you'd be better off saving it for IR missiles. With the recent update, test flights now have an AI controlled SAM to practice with. The AI is competent, so if you can manage that one then actual matches should go smoothly. Hopefully my amateur advice helps, good luck with your grind.
German one is better (has more flares), but if you can play only this one stay low and use S-3K rockets, or use Kh-25ML to focus kill SPAA's and then ground pound in peace. Most ground to air missles at this br you can outright roll-turn dodge (like you do with sparrows) and save your flares for enemy aircraft missles. Furthermore another tactic is to turn on cannon CCIP and snipe enemy SPAA from a far with your guns and save ordinance for other tanks.
i have this weird bug where my enemies pre flare
It is luck based at this point, just pray to run into dumb opponents who dont preflare
Yea I just flare usually every once in awhile even if I don’t have missle on me just better to not risk it
don't even need to preflare r60's honestly, they'll go after a single flare at any angle even with burners on, last second or not.
I slapped a tornado that was just spamming chaff with an r-60mk. Poor guy
@@themanhimself6696Introducing, the Aardvark. Those engines run so hot I can be on 0% and be dumping every flare and the R60 won’t care.
Actual paid actors
*meanwhile I watch as my 9L gets one flared rear-aspect by a damn Tornado*
Tornado’s have Large Caliber, which works on IRCCMs like the R-73 as well
9L's get one flared by literally anything in my experience
tornados have large calibre flares
@Wolfpack611 it does go through afterburning F14s in my experience
@@dewy7478 any counter measure works on IRCCM. the only difference between large and normal is large needs less as it gives off more heat. the way you defeat IRCCM is completely different than just flaring. you need to know what missile it is, what kind of IRCCM it has and then can dodge easily. if it has gatewidth IRCCM then you have to try and get the flares between the missile and you cause of how narrow the seeker head gets after launch. if it has flare rejection then you need to keep flaring to keep the seeker turned off while maneuvering out of the way of IOG guidance as if you dont move then it will still hit you cause you stayed on the same path
I have this bug where the f-4s players shoot sparrows at me
These days F-4S players are not joke.
Failing every bombing run due to MiG-23ML, F-104S TAFs and other more faster bois, they finally gave up base bombing and armed with sparrows.
It seems these stupidity moved to MiG-23MLs for now.
@ ehh the r-24rs are harder to avoid imo
The Su-22M3 after R60Mk buff is crazy
Did r-60m also get buffed or just the r-60mk
@@hydrolox3953 nor the r-60m/mk got buffed, both the r-60m and r-60mk are the same thing, what hes probably talking about is that the SU-22M3 used to not have R-60MK's, only normal R-60's, it eventually got R-60MK's, but in my opinion its still not that good as a fighter. Also barely any countermeasures hurts at 11.3
@@hydrolox3953 No the su22m3 used to only have r60s, then it got the r60mks from the update
Didn't this thing get r60mk's like half a year ago? Now if only Gaijin gives it the counter measure pod it carried irl
Horrible flight model. No thanks id rather play the mig 21s instead.
R-60M op pls nerf and gib us AIM-9X
giB aMeRiCa aiM-9x🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@wArTOonder Ive seen people unironically say that US needed the 9X to compete with the R-73 cuz "9M wasnt comparable to it".
@watershot5941 It used to be insane back when it was introduced but has been overnerfed because according to certain individuals Russia can't have anything good
@@Cohuatl "good" for Russia typically means outclassing everything and being under-br'd alongside that. So yeah. They shouldn't have anything "good", neither should anyone else. These devs can't balance shit.
I was "lazy" to use proper editing tool so I spent 20 minutes editing this thumbnail each pixel at 2am, yaal better leave a like
Words can't describe how much effort was put into the thumbnail...But numbers can 1/10
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Like? MF ima subscribe!, as a former russian main i approve your R60MK shots, delightful
@quackerlikescrackers geeked at 2:30am using single pixel size pen and 30x zoom in microsoft paint. I check - it looks like shit, meh idgaf lets just upload it and go to bed
@slaveofsnail lol, I can’t even write ‘hello’ in Microsoft paint. Nice videos though, keep it going.
(I typed the reply at like 3am, wasn’t even thinking straight)
Ok hold my like
"when will base respawn bro" texts a guy filled with bombs to a guy who flies a tornado that has almost no possible bombing armament
honestly, there is a very slight chance that one of them hasn't checked on the Su-22M3 getting the 60Ms instead of the rear aspect 60s yet
yeah that might just have thrown someone off
Being a new f4s player must feel like hell at top teir. Sometimes I feel bad whenever I absolutely dunk on them like prime shaq.
I dont 😹
should not have buyed then lol. i really think gaijin should limit premium vehicles buys at some level
r60m are in my opinion just very gimmicky, its like a sraam with all of its issues fixed except for flare resistance and range, very fun when they work.
also seeing someone do well in the su22m4 is just surreal, normally its a noobie trap
Can you please elaborate? 🤓 I haven't played any plane that has sraam's, but from what I know the main problems of sraam is flare resistance and range, so what are the other issues then? The damage or what? I have played mig21bis a lot and for me it seems like r60mk is just better version of sraam with none of the issues fully fixed.. I'm not sure but if sraam have proximity fuse, it could be kinda even better in some rare situations..
@
both missiles turn very well, sraam technically has less max g pull but has thrust vectors to compensate for it. coupled with a very low range due to short burn time and the fact the sraam has no wings and only turns with its engine therefore when it runs out of fuel it self detonates to avoid reverse engineering (irl) as it would fall out of the sky.
r60m (mk is the exact same, just export name) also has a very low range although can glide due to wings and lacks thrust v. but makes up in 10 extra g.
Both missiles contend for the worst flare resistance in the entire game, both being either 1st or 2nd place depending on who you ask.
The reason i compared them is because while they are different missiles the r60 family acts like a sraam with most of its issues mitigated.
in short they basically play the same but the r60 is just better in every aspect but 1 (that being the flare resistance).
I don't know when the RWR of Su22M3 buff, the last time I played it, its RWR only has 4 directions and no lauch warning.
I cant believe there are people who don't preflare when going head to head....
фантом купил, кнопку "отстрел лтц" не купил
чел все деньги на фантом потратил, на клаву не осталось
Фантом купил, шестое чувство убил
tbf there is a bug going around right now where the missiles just dont show up until theyre extremely close to you so maybe thats what happened
That’s only with cruise missile like r24, r27 and beside you should always preflare when in range of enemy or passing them otherwise it’s just skill issue
@@the_jingo its not just with missiles like r-24 and r-27 its with all of them.
Its not a but, its actually a feature... you have to level up the crew awareness
@@fenix2-222 its a bug its been happening with max crews the missile shows up at .20 miles or km
@itzzmadness-_-6712 its supposed to be like that
i find the r60m funny, when you're up close it will eat the slightest hot air pocket but will glide through flares if you launch it from 1km away
After witnessing this spectacular gameplay i decided to stick to prop planes, maybe I'll do some high tier jets in Ground Rb
Syrian plane mentioned
Lol we need more gameplay like this
rare footage of an actually enjoyable game with the su-22m3
I am an F-4S Phantom player, and I can confirm this as completely true. We are like German mains in the sky. 500th like btw
Son, that was an F-4EJ ADTW
put quality to at least 360p and read that again
Oh so there's a solid minute and a half of bullshit around the kill you mentioned got it 😂😂😂
@@slaveofsnailkeep your clips short to the point dude, you downed 4 different planes and only mentioned one, maybe if you weren't on the lowest graphics setting, people would be able to tell what you're doing
@@FCorporations I think you're a little too regarded pal
@@AttacMage says the one stuck on 8-pit pixel games stfu
Can I get your opponents? Mine immediately flare, pull away from any missile and can sense anything being launched at them the second its launched
Syrian livery hits hard after everything that happened last month
Requiescat en pace old Syria flag 😔
Activate Windows
Go to Windows Settings to activate Windows.
im gonna put progresively more and more obvious fake activate windows sticker in videos and see how much it takes for yaal to realize
I try my best on my F-4E and F-4J to make up for the disrespect the F-4S players put on the Phantom's name.
Okay, dude, how do you get the extra flight information in the top left?!
(Thrust, aoa, fuel use, wing sweep)
WTRTI
ruclips.net/video/oZzSl7n-vNw/видео.html
Flys in a mostly straight line. Fires some missiles.
GAMEPLAY!
yeah that is the point of the video - zero skill involved for quad
i pray every dar for this kind of lobby
ain't no way, that r60s be this good
Welcome to Top Tier buddy
Currently the R60Ms are borderline unflarable. Gaijin messed up a lot of things by rushing this update.
havent noticed that realy
Pov: you have severe skill issue
Wdym? You can flare them with mighty mouse rockets, something even aim9b wouldn't go for.
Thats just a skill issue, Ive used them alot lately and your probably flaring with full afterburner on
@@warthundercinematics2083 They were unflarable because gaijin touched to nono code. It got fixed shortly after my comment.
this is so real
The true reality is that not everyone has the ability to stay on a high swivel and still fly. So easy to launch missles yet not so easy to observe every possible direction where they can come from
Nah, skill issue. If you been on at least 9.3 you should know that if you don't constantly look around some mf will put ain9g in you back or R3R in your face.
If only have more flare
Indeed, I'f possibly We'd Get mountable CM dispensers. which is probably not going to happen
Irl it has external cm dispensers
are you the real big ounce?
where'd you get that extra information in the topleft?
ruclips.net/video/oZzSl7n-vNw/видео.html
This is how i grinded to the su27 with su22 but now i have f4s and if you know how to use it. It's really good i am about to get f15 eagle
f15 is in an excellent state rn good for you
it this plane good for ground RB (for anti-air or anti-tank purpose) ?
i have it unlocked by radar SPAA's always fuck me up because i don't have enough flares and idk how to evade missiles with this brick.
Flying perpendicular and changing altitude can help. Also approach the battlefield at a low altitude like hugging the ground then pop up and launch missiles or bombs etc
Being on the receiving end of this plane, I would say so lol.
All aspects AAMs and laser guided ATGMs at 10.3 are potent. Regarding mouse guided SAMs, I'd look at other nation's missiles and be aware of their range. Turn and fly away from their direction to burn out their motor or break line of sight to stop them from tracking you. Flares can help break *radar* lock, but you'd be better off saving it for IR missiles.
With the recent update, test flights now have an AI controlled SAM to practice with. The AI is competent, so if you can manage that one then actual matches should go smoothly. Hopefully my amateur advice helps, good luck with your grind.
German one is better (has more flares), but if you can play only this one stay low and use S-3K rockets, or use Kh-25ML to focus kill SPAA's and then ground pound in peace. Most ground to air missles at this br you can outright roll-turn dodge (like you do with sparrows) and save your flares for enemy aircraft missles. Furthermore another tactic is to turn on cannon CCIP and snipe enemy SPAA from a far with your guns and save ordinance for other tanks.
how did you activate the ui that shows aoa, thrust and fuel usage
ruclips.net/video/oZzSl7n-vNw/видео.html
how do show your thrust in game?
wtrti
why does this video get 30k views but my videos get 1k veiws at most...
Why do i never come across players like that?
Cuz you’re player like that
@the_jingo hmm i guess the jingo is not wrong
its the content creator bias
bro got no windows
I like it
Activate Windows
Go to Settings to activate Windows.
just find random KMS activator code and activate this windows
7/10 engagement bait
you should activate windows
less toxic r60 user
All that and you only got 6K mods research. The economy in this game continues to be hot garbage.
USSR much better than American one
i dont remember american su22 if that is what u are talking about
Imagine preflaring
It is luck based at this point, just pray to run into dumb opponents who dont preflare
YOU GET FLARES?!?!?!? *cries in Hunter F6 at 9.7 without CMs*
So noob ennemy😂
activate windows
Oh shii sorry bro, it wont happen again I promise
Imagine being this guy
activate windows