OK I gotta give you two thumbs up on that, and taking all things into consideration. This is probably one of the best I’ve seen because it combines efficiency, economy, pack, ability and ease of use. Congratulations.
Mark, I’m going to the shed to start my mod’s on my IKEA stove. Thank you. Also when I use my IKEA stove on windy days, or slow down the burn, I have use a tin can, cut, sized 1/2 inserted in the IKEA stove. This reduces the air in take and directs the flame up, instead of out the sides. Just finished my first burn. I have the smaller IKEA stove, used a Costco coffee can for the outer can, Siege supports for the top, Pathfinder kettle. Boiled in 3.30 minutes. WOW. Thank you for your research and dedication to the camping community.
I'm enthralled with your advanced bushcraftery 'hacks' and I admire your thriftiness👍 You Tube is changing rapidly- an ad covering nearly your entire description forces me to scroll down to read your description, from my cellphone.
Excellent proof of concept!! Now you or someone with metal fabrication abilities and resources and a keen marketing ability should be able to bring this same type of idea to market in the form of a lightweight teardown package and make a great stove for the masses and make themselves a whole heck of a lot of money in the process!! Let us just all think about that for a while!! I hope they reward you kindly for your oh so brilliant invention!!! Goes to show that those of us over 50 years old still have what it takes!! Great job Mark!!
2 minutes and 20 seconds for a rolling boil. There a whole lot of two's this year. I knew a Nova Scotia fella would make my British Columbian mind work better today. Thank you.
One detail that may be worthy of notice: If you use galvanized/zinc plated parts, you will want to remove that before using it in a stove, since the zinc can give off poisonous fumes when heated. If it is just some small parts like bolts and spacers, you can let them soak in vinegar for a couple hours until the zinc gets removed and then brush them off if necessary.
Thanks Mark, this is a very informative video. Your modifications add a lot of flexibility to this stove. I really never gave the IKEA stove much thought, I figured it would be to cumbersome to carry in a pack. You have convinced me to give it try. The cost and ease to build this make it worthwhile. The strainers and the outer cover are an excellent idea. It is a hybrid of a gasifier and rocket stove. I will be building this stove with your modifications soon. Even if I don’t carry it much, it’ll work great in the back yard around the fire pit to make a cup of coffee. Thanks again.
Mark I did finally make it to Ikea. Yes they had them. I got the large one again. Now to actually make one the stove. I think I got all the components now. Grin
Nicely done, Mark. Very informative presentation! Just wanted to let you and your viewers know that Walmart sells an exact same cutlery caddy as the taller IKEA version. And its costs only $3.49 USD in Wal-Mart.
@@OverlandOne I am not sure what you saw, but search for sold by Walmart as retailer and look for the brand Mainstay. If not, go into the store, as I just paid $3.49 on line for the above item. Let me know if I can help you.
@@BingWatcher Thanks. All I did was check their website for "cutlery Caddy" and a bunch of different styles came up but the stainless steel units that resembled the Ikea style were all listed at $20 or above like I said. I think there were like 5 or 6 different ones. I will do as you suggest so, thanks.
I made a hobo stove combining features of your design and a few other people.I bought a utensil strainer from Walmart which cost a few dollars, We already had skewers. I like the new modifications -skimmer drain etc. I noticed the problem of heat loss in the perforated utensil strainer. I used bolts on the bottom, but may switch to the conduit clamps.
Great idea with the chimney. I added a tall and bottomless costco coffee can to my Progresso soup can hobo stove and the results are impressive. Thanks.
I was worried about the efficiency of the stove until I watched this video. The application of a coffee can chimney has greatly improved its performance. I'm going to build one exactly the same for myself. You can place the metal lid of the coffee can, or another similar metal lid under the stove to collect the ash of the wood. If you are interested in buchcraft applications, you can also make soap with this ash. Or you can simply prevent burning the ground with hot embers.
I love these videos not because I will be camping (I have never done it and don't think I will do it at my 66 years old), but because I think in an emergency. English is not my first language and I do not know anything about tools or things I hear in many videos, because I am a woman that has nevert dealt with anytyhing of that. II had to put the captions to know the names of the things you were mentioning and be able to find them on the stores!!!
I purchased mine from Walmart. I also made one from a stainless steel tower cheese grater. I removed the handle and modified an aluminum mini loaf pan to catch the ashes.
Nice one, Mark. An alternative to fitting brackets to the bottom of the Ikea is to cut the base (with around 15mm of the side wall) off a previous incarnation and fix that permanently to the base, simply hammer the dimples flat . Scallops (I cut three at 50mm long) can then be cut in the rim of the base unit to allow air flow to the bottom of the stove. The height is increased slightly but the advantage is that you only need to put the pot stands on the top and you're ready to go. If you use one central fixing you could vary the bottom air intake by simply rotating the base. ATB
Mark I love my Ikea stove. I used a medium sized biscuit cookie tin cut out the bottom, sliced it down the seam. I can adjust it tight to the stove or bend it open to the make it wider works great. I also use the lid upside down to set the stove on to give protection from a tabletop or just ground. Thanks man your ribs are always great! Stay warm stay safe keep the faith
the walmart rulers are sweet find, this video is a new mod for my IKEA stove, I'm now waiting for the covid lock down to end so I can mod my stove ,this was a GREAT video
I use the taller Walmart strainer with an internal chimney. Chimney is made from a tin can (slightly smaller in diameter than the stove) with both ends cut out. It seems to work just as well. Tin can chimney will eventually burn out (about a year) but cheaper and easier to find a replacement. Also more compact. Your stove vids remind me of Hiram Cook’s channel on stoves.
Great idea, Mark. Especially using the stainless steel container to regulate the airflow. That is simply genius. The stainless steel container is called BMP Sauce Container (I don't know what that stands for). Shape of it varies a little bit, but widely used in commercial kitchens. Usually comes with a lid. I would skaletonize the pot stands to give more room to exhaust and use short angle brackets for feet to support more weight. To use the Alocs stove, how about bending the skewers a little in the middle to fit more snuggly around the alcohol stove? I am sure they will still fit through the holes. Again, amazing idea!
You have some great ideas for stoves. I like your thrift stores. Round here we have several with crap and little to make these hobo stoves. I'll keep looking though. Thanks.
Mark, I really appreciate the way you show multiple items and techniques for creating and using your stoves. I'm researching things to use during power outages. (We get some nasty ice storms as well as tornadoes here in middle Tennessee. In 1989, some folks were without power for three weeks. Even in the city, people were without power for three days)
The only thing I might suggest is a slightly larger 'chimney'. It may improve bottom height efficiency by allowing just enough more air. Or maybe just get a couple sticks at base of chimney to lift it to the bottom of the burner. Over all a brilliant idea. Tho the one rocket stove I have actually seen has had even sized chimney and feed, but no other air intake above the feed. That I could see anyway. It is a pellet stove heating my neighbours RV.
I always appreciate your DIY approach to hobo stoves Mark. The first video of yours I watched was making a hobo stove, since I have made many my self. Now I have some new ideas, thanks to you and Value Village etc. Keep the ideas coming my friend. Cheers!
Great concept. Guess I will not be cutting the side hole out. I bought both sizes of the "utensil strainers" a couple months ago at an IKEA in Florida.
Very good! There must be a Royal Canadian Society of innovative hobo stove awards put together for you! Very enjoyable that video, thanks. There is a French supermarket I found that sells a slightly taller version of the IKEA strainer at about €3 a pop...I’ll check dimensions. Easier to work with than risk continued lockdown legislation. Such is modern life. cheers ou bon appétit...
RUclipsr Hiram Cook has some similar styles. He also goes to thrift stores to get his materials. That is why I like your models too! I love the recycling and reuse of materials that are easy to access for just about anyone. Thanks
Excellent video, I appreciate it. I've now used this hobo design (without the rocket chimney part) in cold, snowy and windy conditions several times and it has performed very well. I didn't have a wind cover solution other than placing the stove near some rocks on the ground and that worked well enough in 8 m/s "fresh breeze" wind. The stove cools down very fast after use. I will have to try out the "chimney"/coffee can style addition it looks very cool.
Glad you liked the video. You can purchase folding panel aluminum windscreens on Amazon and Aliexpress for a reasonable price. They are great for a stove like this. I have also used aluminum flashing to make a windscreen. I wrap it around the stove inside the stuff sack. Thanks for commenting
I bought a four-pack of the Siege Stove cross bars. Gave them as Christmas gifts. Expensive but very well made and nearly indestructible with reasonable care Steve at Siege Stoves is a great guy to deal with too.
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Yes Mark, I’ve watched your previous video on the Siege Stove cross members. I have their stove in SS and I do like it. Expensive but a durable design. I would have preferred it to include a “5th” side with a feed port. Steve says it’s not needed but I really don’t like to remove a frypan or pot to add fuel. I’ve not asked him yet if he would consider selling me a single side piece that I could modify for my needs. I watched a recent video by Nagularo and I believe he was using a tall Firebox stove. After the cooking was done, he put some long, wrist sized sticks, vertically into the stove. I was sorta shocked but as the flames licked upwards and lit those sticks... I could see the method to his madness. It created a large fire and put out a lot of heat, all while still being contained within the Firebox. It gave more of a mesmerizing fire, the kind we all love about a campfire. I know lots of the stoves and your videos deal more with a single load fire, more suited to boiling water but I want a more versatile setup. I greatly enjoy your channel and the information you share. I’ve bought stoves because I liked what I saw in your demonstrations. Keep up the great work and stay safe. 👍👏🙏
Love the experimentation, really enjoy your informative explanations and the overall presentation. Thanks so much interesting and enthusing. I took the tallest strainer I could fine from my charity shop and Poundland shop trawling, Junior hacksawed off the bottom about 6mm below the lowest side holes. Filed off sharp edges. Flipped the bottom over, carefully placed the top portion, ( right way up), over the bottom and using a 4x2 timber tapped the top down. Using the upper parts lowest set of holes (now blinded), as guides, drilled through the solid upside down rim of the original bottom. You now have a fire grate about 12/17 mm up from the ground but vented below and all around the circumfrance. Hope my description can be followed. I will defiantly add your outer chimney, thank you. Take care, regards Colin
Awesome, draft is king 😄 I saw plenty of pyrolysis in the top down view, it was obvious to me. I think this is a winner combo, I’ll be looking to find one of those canisters for my hobo now. Tam’s measure of efficiency is one load to boil our gallon pot lol!
Boy, Mark, you are a real thinking machine! You could have been a designer in another life. Not only that, but you casually use words like "pyrolysis" instead of combustion forcing me to look words up online. :-) Finally, it is evident that you're well-read as I listen to your "sign off" with a nod to Robert Frost. Great informative video.
Hi I’ve just found your vids and have now subscribed, I saw on another u tube Chanel about using an ikea drainer and brought two three weeks ago (25/3/23) so they are still available
I left a container just like that at VV the other day. I didn't think I needed another 16cm pot. Have to go back and see if it's still there. I did my first top-down burn in the Firebox this week. I'm definitely using that more often. If you ever need a good knob for the lid of a campfire pot, run a stainless steel bolt up through the lid and secure it with a nut. Then put a big, ugly blob of silicone sealer (I use black) all around the bolt, maybe 1/2" diameter. It won't conduct heat out from the bolt and can take a lot more heat than plastic. Good grip,too.
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I usually start watching these videos with "I don't need another stove." I went back to VV. The container was gone, but I found a 12cm Ikea strainer and a slightly shorter 14cm container. Machined some feet and cut the bottom out of the container. Just going down to the shop to cut up the Walmart ruler.
I tried out the new hobo last week - full load of very dry alder. At one point, it was sending up very clean 18" flames. Lasted more than long enough to boil water for my Chai and roast a smokie. A really good innovation.
You could try using double-wall insulated stove pipe as your chimney. Available in sizes at least as small as 6" length/6" inner diameter and up to at least 24" length/9" inner diameter. While it would likely be less packable, it would give you heat retention. You can also find air-insulated double-wall stove pipe with similar dimensions that would be lighter, or use single-wall stove pipe for the best packability.
@@brucematys8597 From what I can find, B vent has an aluminum inner pipe which wouldn't likely handle the high heat very well. I've burned aluminum to ash in a basic, open-pit campfire.
I have two of the Ikea containers but couldn't find any on their website. 2:20 to boil is impressive. That's a nice kit, Mark. Very well done. Except for the size, the other stoves in this world have *overwhelming* competition. I really like your mods, you did an extraordinary job. The inserts you found look like they were made for that stove!
I have a suggestion: the end of the conduit clamp straits it out. By straiting them out you will have a wider foot print. I did see quit a difference in the active burn. A notable difference in the burn more like on a gas cook stove eye from a medium low to a high
Great idea Mark. I wander if using a stove top heat diffuser between the pot and pot stand would control the fire from rolling up around the side of pot. You have so much heat it might not diffuse it enough to make a great difference. I fine them at thrift stories all the time. Two pieces of perforated metal seamed together with a space between them and handle.
For the size and overall cost of the hobo stove compared to a $40 gassifed twig stove i would rather the twig stove. But i just discovered that the smaller version of the ikea pencil holder is a much more compact design that allows the stanley adventure cook set to nestle inside of it. I just to grab a wide mouth brimmed water bottle pouch to place it all in and it will create the narrowest and tallest cook set ive seen yet. Which would increase the chimney effect even more
I have seen these utensil holders at Target, Walmart and on Amazon. If you don't have one of those stores around I have seen people alter coffee cans with a beer bottle opener and use wire hangers to create different levels of cook space
You are awesome! I love the upgrades to your first model, too! Please do me a favor and stack all of it the bag including chimney and alternative fuel plates along with the trangia and weigh the entire system. Could you please let me know? Thanks so much for all you do!
Another remarkable vedio from you sir. Can we try tuflon tape wrap on the outside shell to reduce heat loss? I know tuflon tape melts at 327 degree C. I use it on my pressure cooker for a long time. Your vedios are really inspiring. Thank you. 🙏
Thank you for your kind words. I would suggest a material like fiberglass or carbon felt as insulation as they resist high heat and would be easier to work with
Hi Mark, the possibilitys with this stove are endless.. i use the crossbars from the Kelly Kettle.. cause i had then.. and they are not really expensive... with your rocketstove version.. its also possible to feed sticks at the hole at the side of your stove. another idea is, to cut only a smaler hole into the bottom of the coffee can, smaller than the width of the ikea.. than the room.. between the Ikea and the coffeecan is closed if you put it upside down on the ikea.. the secondary air effect should work better.. i hope, you understand the meaning. A further idea, is to make a reducing at this construction, to use a small stovepipe for a small tentstove.. its only an idea for testings in the future..😂 This rocketstove version is for sure, a possibility to heat a Tipitent with an open fire, nearly smoke free or - less instead a firepit inside the tent. i also use the computervent at the lowerest holes of the ikea as a burningrost, like a regular woodstove for more air underneath and that the ash can fall down easyer. A lot of ideas... i hope you understand my declaration... i am no really goot english speaker! Have fun stay healthy Mark and move on with the ideas that you have... greetings Hans from south Germany
@@MarkYoungBushcraft.. try a Potstand lid from a chinese woodgasstove on top of the ikea... or maybe it will work on top of the Coffeecan for a better gasification when the hot air is concentrated...
I think most of the fun is in the making. I own all the Firebox stoves. (Gen 2 and Nano in SS and Ti) but I still like playing with these builds. Thanks for commenting
For the legs, I suggest using locking nuts (not nylock though). That way you can tighten them down just enough to allow them to swivel but still be firm. Then you don't have to loosen them to rotate the legs.
Great improvement Mark! So funny. I've been looking at coffee cans at the store trying to figure out a way to control or focus the burn in my Ikea Hobo stove. I never thought of using a old stainless. It would be so much better than a coffee can.
Hello Sir, dear Marc, that's an impressive demonstration and I don't want to critize any of your "laboratory" testings! 🙏 But after many years of my real outdoor "testings", also in multiple choices for a "fire" system,.... I prefere the Trangia 27 system. It's safe in stormy conditions, I can use it out- & indoor,..... And all cooking items I can also use on a "simple" fire between stones! That's just my opinion,... Best regards
Thanks for the information on your modified IKEA wood stove. I built an IKEA stove based on your earlier model with legs and open port to feed fuel but used it in a different exterior can. I inserted your IKEA style stove in a 3 pound coffee can with air holes based on #davesrealsurvial for "161. Easiest Tin Can Rocket Stove". This style of stove was not as efficient as your modification but was easy to build. I boiled 2 cups of water in 4:15 in a Stanley Adventure Cup that is not an ideal diameter for boiling water. I still need to build the pot stand and will use your design using the ss ruler from Walmart. Thanks for sharing some of your outdoor adventures and evaluations with your viewers.
Hi Mark, great ideas here, I definitely share and love your 'hobby' of playing around with hobos and trying to improve their useability and performance. It is a lot of creativity and fun, and watching videos about that topic is almost same fun and gives me always great new ideas. Thanks for sharing your experience! Well, just wanted to say that these 'utensil strainers' are still available at Ikea, at least here in India. But they are called 'cutlery stand' - maybe you search for that term and find it again also in your country's Ikea? Next to Ikea, we can purchase this specific type of stand or strainer or how ever it is called in any common supermarket here for almost no money. There are also different sizes of these stands available, and I found out the smaller ones are enough for most of my purposes. One can save tons of wood by using just one or two sizes smaller. The smaller ones fit also in small pots or mugs, so instead of transporting the pot in the stove one can also assembling a vice versa kit. I am challenging myself since a couple of years to save as much wood as possible when using a hobo stove. I definitely love hobos and cook almost daily outside just for fun and keeping up my practise, means I use these things also a lot at home. Saving wood adds some extras to the experimenting with stoves and cooking - it is less work to prep wood and saves a lot of unneccessary CO2 emissions, and at least for me it is simply a wonderful challenge and fun. I do not want to place a link here because my comment would then end up in your spam as youtube filters all comments with links (even links to other youtube videos), but I have uploaded some while back a video titled 'Rice Cooking Challenge' where I use a small version of these cutlery stands (and some gimmicks more) to boil 120 g of Basmati Rice using only 43 g of wood (dry eucalyptus). In case you are planning to watch that video you can jump directly to 4:20 when the cooking starts - before is some fund raising but this has nothing to do with hobo stoves ... ;-) - there you can also see the setup I used. And of course, I would be glad if you would be also bitten by the bug to do any hobo cooking in future with the least amount of wood anyhow possible ;-) Regards from India, Robert
Hello fellow DIY stove enthusiast. There are a good number of items I have made stoves from that I still need to share. I will be sure to watch your video. Thanks for commenting
@@marioschutrumpf9463 Thanks a lot for watching my video and even commenting about it, and yes I try to minimize the use of wood as best as I can, investing a lot of thinking and maybe even more trial and error in finding the best way to cook rice and other stuff outdoors 🤣 Interestingly, even though many of us are kind of wood stove geeks, minimizing the use of wood seems not to be a big topic in hiking/outdoor/bushcraft circles. Watching youtube one could even get the impression that everybody burns wood as if there is no tomorrow. What is of course understandable considering that we use our fantastique and beloved wood stoves during our outdoor activities usually in an environment which is full of wood. This firewood is commonly available at no costs, and because most of us outdoorers are males and absolutely love to learn and apply our skills in processing wood with axes and latest bushcraft knives and so on, it never can be enough firewood to prepare 🤣🤣🤣 But I live mostly here in India in an environment where firewood is usually not readily available but has to be gathered or even purchased, preserved from monsoon rains and so on, means it is considered to be kind of a rare and costly ressource and everybody tries not to waste it. Usually it is the fuel of the poor, means wealthy people cook mostly with kerosene, gas or electricity. So I have meanwhile got a different mindset concerning use of firewood compared to what I was used to think before I came to India. And of course I try to minimize my CO2 footprint and mind in general about nature and all that stuff ... and I would be glad if more of us outdoor guys would start to mind about not to waste too much of wood, too 😁 About the rice cooking challenge - You are totally right, usually the preparation / cooking time of rice can be cut almost in half by soaking rice for longer time (like for example overnight). But this observation is about the duration of cooking, it does not say much about the required energy resp. fuel we use in the process. This is at least my finding, so far. Many people which do not use wood as fuel but gas or electricity bring rice to a boil and keep the pot then warm, on trails many use for that purpose a pot cosy or so (at home one can put the rice pot in the bed and cover it nicely) in order to complete the process, such preserving the heat in the pot for the further cooking/soaking process. I'm more or less following that process - bring everything to a boil and then keep it hot - but don't use anything extra for keeping the pot hot except the ember which forms automatically in my stove when I use wood for boiling my rice, and I do not add exta fuel/wood after the water came to a solid boil. To me it seems (after many experiments) it takes same amount of wood to bring everything to boil, whether the rice is already soaked (and contains the liquid already) or whether not. I found in my experiments the rice is faster ready to eat if I use soaked rice, and when I cook at home (outdoors in my garden) I use to soak the rice at least for one hour before I boil it, but I was not yet able to save significantly amounts of wood for bringing everything to a boil. I'm not a physicist but it seems the amount of energy required to heat everything up to boiling temperature is the same, whether the rice is soaked (and contains already most of the liquid required for hydration) or whether one adds slightly more water to dry rice for cooking. To me it seems so far that only the time for hydration and completing the cooking process is more if you don't soak. But this extra time doesn't need extra energy (using my method of cooking rice), I am using the wood primarily to build an open flame in order to bring everything to a solid boil, but the following soaking time over the embers doesn't need extra fuel. There is also one very small argument against the soaking method whiles being outdoors. Means at home you would soak the rice for some hours (e.g. you soak it over night and use it in the late morning for preparing rice at lunch), but on trails most people cook only in the evenings. As nobody wants to wait for hours for the rice soaking in the evening it usually means you have to soak the rice during the day, carrying the rice with water in your rucksack until you reach your destination. It isn't much extra weight to carry, maybe just something like 200 g of water per portion of rice or so, and I found it is easily possible using a simple plastic bottle, but I guess every serious follower and missionary of the ultralight hiking cult would surely reject to do that 🤣🤣🤣 Best regards and happy trails and times in the nature! Robert
@@marioschutrumpf9463 Oh yes I remember that my grandparents used a big wooden box filled with some down feathers as their olla bruja (but no idea how they called such a box in those days in Germany, don't remember any special term). As far as I know this box was originally filled with straw but my grandmother improved the system by slaughtering an old pillow. I guess our ancestors were all big energy savers, whether in Spain or in Germany 😁 - wow just got the idea, who knows, maybe the common use of something like an energy saving cooking box in both the countries dates even back to the reino suevo de Gallaecia, or even before that time 🤣🤣🤣 ). My own "witch box" for kitchen use is simply my microwave - means when I cook bigger quantities of rice, what happens at least 3 times a week since we have lot of dogs, I do it in the microwave and cover the pot after boiling with a folded piece of cotton and let it sit in the microwave, which is somehow insulated since it has also convection oven functionality. Works absolutely fine. But as I'm cooking almost daily outdoors for myself, I started with experiments around wood stove cooking and still cannot stop doing it. Nothing scientific (except that I use a scale to know how much wood I'm burning), just trial and error. There are so many screws to turn like size and shape of the pot or shape and size of the stove and so on, it is a never ending game and makes cooking a lot more interesting than simply following every day the same process 🤣 And ridiculously, the best results so far come always only from using this simple little cutlery stand as stove ... even though I am a big geek and enthusiastic user of latest models of folding stoves (e.g. Bushcraft Essentials etc), and even though I really love all this high tech titanium stuff and so on, I have to confess that I didn't find anything better in terms of energy saving than this stupidly simple and dirt cheap ikea hobo stove kind of solution ... 🤣🤣
@@bangalorebobbel yo solo soy un entusiasta de estas cosas ,y de que manera se puede lograr hacerlas, lo mas barato posible y en casa . No tengo nada con las excelentes que hay en el mercado .pero me pica el gusanillo , igual que a usted con la madera 🤣 es una especie de obsesión que me divierte muchísimo. Un abrazo y a seguir puliendo y puliendo hasta lograr la maestría. Así es como al final, termino por entender los conceptos .ahora también me pondré a investigar con el ahorro de leña 👍😉
It should be easy to experiment with restricting airflow up through the bottom by installing bolts and nuts to close off air flow holes. If all holes in the bottom were filled with bolts, it seems like that should reduce hot ashes falling on the ground.
close the all around middle hole of the ikea hobo with aluminium tape, only remain the up side and the down side hole...so the combustion fokus at the topside hole..
Not sure if I mentioned in this video that I use stainless steel rulers from Walmart. Still need something that will cut them like Dremel of a hack saw. Thanks for commenting
I’ve thought about heat and cooking and stoves and sterno for three years and I concluded that COLD FRESH FOODS and tap water is the way to go. Carry a Bic Lighter anyway but KEEP IT SIMPLE!
Always enjoy your information packed videos. You sir, are the Elon Musk of the wood stove! Canadian thrift stores must be wonderful. Here in Ireland they are full of junk.
Mr. Kennedy, 📢Here in the USA, dollar stores and thrift stores are also full of junk, just like you described in Ireland. I am jealous of the Canadian stores! 🤔
Other than wood pellets something else you can use as a cheap alternative is dry dog food or dog biscuits. I saw a huge one gallon sized jug of miniature dog biscuits on sale a few years back for about $4.97 a few years ago at an Ollie’s discount store. I bet that gallon sized jug was a whole bunch cheaper than a gallon sized jug of wood pellets.
I have some fiberglass fabric used to line airplanes. It is left from building chimney holes in tents. I’m wondering if it would work instead of the carbon felt to line the can?
Coincidence, I just cut up a piece of fiberglass fabric like the stuff you have. Made a mat to put under large stoves. Hard to work with as it keeps coming apart. Yes, It should work as insulation for the chimney. Thanks for commenting
The fiberglass fabric does fall apart badly. It handles best if you sew a wide zig zag double rows of stitches about a quarter to half inch apart and cut between the rows of stitches - depends on the weave - fire isn’t the thread’s friend but you won’t lose fiberglass all over the place while you are working. Figure on the carpet cutting blade and the sewing needle will be dull after using.
Would love to show u a stove I found to see if you could figure out how to duplicate. It was amazing. It was out of barrels, had never seen one designed like it and super versital almost a 3 n 1.
Always enjoy your vids! A suggestion.. did you try flipping your strainer burner upside down when you put it in the pot and then the legs will fit into the lid ?Possibly it’ll sit in deeper in the pot. LOL whatever, continue your great descriptive video’s! Hugs from Ontario Canada keep safe and well
It will depend on the size of your pot and much of the airflow is restricted. The more room for exhaust at the top as well as the height of the chimney in relation to its diameter, the greater the effect. Hope this helps
Hey Mark, I got the taller Ikea utensil holder and the drain strainer was a great add-on, kudos . I Can't find the taller sugar container windscreen though, have looked in several dollar stores . What dollar store chain did you find that in? Or is there possibly an online link? Google search turned up nothing. Thanks, great build.
OK I gotta give you two thumbs up on that, and taking all things into consideration. This is probably one of the best I’ve seen because it combines efficiency, economy, pack, ability and ease of use. Congratulations.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for commenting
Hobo's the world over are sitting straight-backed after learning of your upgrade. You've taken their stove to a new level. 🏆
Thanks for commenting
Mark, I’m going to the shed to start my mod’s on my IKEA stove. Thank you. Also when I use my IKEA stove on windy days, or slow down the burn, I have use a tin can, cut, sized 1/2 inserted in the IKEA stove. This reduces the air in take and directs the flame up, instead of out the sides. Just finished my first burn. I have the smaller IKEA stove, used a Costco coffee can for the outer can, Siege supports for the top, Pathfinder kettle. Boiled in 3.30 minutes. WOW. Thank you for your research and dedication to the camping community.
Sounds like it worked out great. Thanks for commenting
I'm enthralled with your advanced bushcraftery 'hacks' and I admire your thriftiness👍 You Tube is changing rapidly- an ad covering nearly your entire description forces me to scroll down to read your description, from my cellphone.
Thank you for your kind words. Controlling adds is a tough thing to do
@@MarkYoungBushcraft you're welcome. Thanks for sharing your knowledge! Was not complaining to you, just to youtube.
Excellent proof of concept!! Now you or someone with metal fabrication abilities and resources and a keen marketing ability should be able to bring this same type of idea to market in the form of a lightweight teardown package and make a great stove for the masses and make themselves a whole heck of a lot of money in the process!! Let us just all think about that for a while!! I hope they reward you kindly for your oh so brilliant invention!!! Goes to show that those of us over 50 years old still have what it takes!! Great job Mark!!
Love the idea. I agree, my mind is still working but my body is definitely feeling its age.
2 minutes and 20 seconds for a rolling boil. There a whole lot of two's this year. I knew a Nova Scotia fella would make my British Columbian mind work better today. Thank you.
From the east coast to the west coast. Happy to be of service
@@MarkYoungBushcraft You are doing something good.
Fantastic video Mark! It really helps people understand the science of combustion and stove design. Keep it up.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting
Amazing! That chimney update you did definitely increases the efficiency to the max. It looks totally smokeless. Great job. Greetings from Germany
Glad you like it! Thanks for commenting
Nice concept and completed project, the “chimney “ is a Bain-Marie pot. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for that!
This is the best hobo stove build I've ever seen! Love all the different parts and ways to use it. Awesome 👍🏻. Definitely need to upgrade my build😂
Always fun to try new things with these hobo stoves. Thanks for commenting
One detail that may be worthy of notice: If you use galvanized/zinc plated parts, you will want to remove that before using it in a stove, since the zinc can give off poisonous fumes when heated. If it is just some small parts like bolts and spacers, you can let them soak in vinegar for a couple hours until the zinc gets removed and then brush them off if necessary.
Good suggestion. Thanks for commenting
Citric acid is good also, you can buy it by the bag, its good for a lot of other things too.
@@KeyboardBusterLike what? These ideas and hacks are always good to know. I learn so much, not just from the videos themselves but from the Comments.
Wow! Great Idea! Cheap and effective
I'll put it in a heated coke.😂
Still available here in Norway, bought 4 today (got 4 boy grandchildren who need to get out in the woods!!) Birthdays coming up.
Great way to start the boys out. Thanks for commenting
Thanks Mark, this is a very informative video. Your modifications add a lot of flexibility to this stove. I really never gave the IKEA stove much thought, I figured it would be to cumbersome to carry in a pack. You have convinced me to give it try. The cost and ease to build this make it worthwhile. The strainers and the outer cover are an excellent idea. It is a hybrid of a gasifier and rocket stove. I will be building this stove with your modifications soon. Even if I don’t carry it much, it’ll work great in the back yard around the fire pit to make a cup of coffee. Thanks again.
I find it more reasonable to carry if I can either store it in a pot or at least store items in it. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Yes IKEA still doing it just look for 30011832 or ORDNING and it
should be there
Mark I did finally make it to Ikea. Yes they had them. I got the large one again. Now to actually make one the stove. I think I got all the components now. Grin
Right on. Let me know how your project turns out. Thanks for commenting
Stove works amazing! Upgrades sure make a difference. Very high heat! Burns for quite awhile without adding more wood👍
Yes, and you can start with longer sticks as well. Thanks for commenting
Nicely done, Mark. Very informative presentation! Just wanted to let you and your viewers know that Walmart sells an exact same cutlery caddy as the taller IKEA version. And its costs only $3.49 USD in Wal-Mart.
Thanks for the info!
Wow, I just looked on their website and saw about 6 different versions but all were over $20.00. I guess the price went up?
@@OverlandOne I am not sure what you saw, but search for sold by Walmart as retailer and look for the brand Mainstay. If not, go into the store, as I just paid $3.49 on line for the above item. Let me know if I can help you.
@@BingWatcher Thanks. All I did was check their website for "cutlery Caddy" and a bunch of different styles came up but the stainless steel units that resembled the Ikea style were all listed at $20 or above like I said. I think there were like 5 or 6 different ones. I will do as you suggest so, thanks.
@@BingWatcher Bingo! when I searched under the name you gave me, it came right up and is $3.48. Excellent! I thank you again.
Mark, great video. I've binge watched a bunch of your videos and they are pure gold. Such valuable info. Thank you for your hard work and sharing!
Thank you for your kind words
I made a hobo stove combining features of your design and a few other people.I bought a utensil strainer from Walmart which cost a few dollars, We already had skewers. I like the new modifications -skimmer drain etc. I noticed the problem of heat loss in the perforated utensil strainer. I used bolts on the bottom, but may switch to the conduit clamps.
Right on. So many options. Thanks for commenting
Thanks for the ideas. I will toss the Ikea part & just use the solid canister with a feed hole at the bottom & V notches at the top to let flames out.
Worth trying. Thanks for commenting
Lots of great ideas from this video. Also appreciate the test demonstration.
Glad you liked it! Thanks for commenting
Great idea with the chimney. I added a tall and bottomless costco coffee can to my Progresso soup can hobo stove and the results are impressive. Thanks.
Right on. Fun and rewarding to make something work like this. Thanks for commenting
Brilliant! Love how you utilise every day items changing them into a very different tool. It's a way of "seeing", e real skill.
Glad you liked it! I have fun doing it. Thanks for commenting
The ikea stove is back! That's a very impressive boil time!
Yes sir. Still the best bang-for-buck stove. Thanks for commenting
Hey Mark, your homemade stainless cross bars really measure up :)
yes they do😂
😂🤣😂
I was worried about the efficiency of the stove until I watched this video. The application of a coffee can chimney has greatly improved its performance. I'm going to build one exactly the same for myself.
You can place the metal lid of the coffee can, or another similar metal lid under the stove to collect the ash of the wood. If you are interested in buchcraft applications, you can also make soap with this ash. Or you can simply prevent burning the ground with hot embers.
Yes, something under this stove is a requirement. Thanks for commenting
I love these videos not because I will be camping (I have never done it and don't think I will do it at my 66 years old), but because I think in an emergency. English is not my first language and I do not know anything about tools or things I hear in many videos, because I am a woman that has nevert dealt with anytyhing of that. II had to put the captions to know the names of the things you were mentioning and be able to find them on the stores!!!
Glad you found the video helpful. Thanks for commenting
Thank you Mark for the continued modifications and testing. Really appreciate this.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting
Thanks from Sweden, IKEA's homeland👍
Thanks for commenting
I purchased mine from Walmart. I also made one from a stainless steel tower cheese grater. I removed the handle and modified an aluminum mini loaf pan to catch the ashes.
Great tip! Thanks for commenting
Nice one, Mark. An alternative to fitting brackets to the bottom of the Ikea is to cut the base (with around 15mm of the side wall) off a previous incarnation and fix that permanently to the base, simply hammer the dimples flat . Scallops (I cut three at 50mm long) can then be cut in the rim of the base unit to allow air flow to the bottom of the stove. The height is increased slightly but the advantage is that you only need to put the pot stands on the top and you're ready to go. If you use one central fixing you could vary the bottom air intake by simply rotating the base. ATB
Interesting design. Thanks for commenting
The Swiss army knife of hobo stove design...very nice.
Right on. Thanks for commenting
Mark I love my Ikea stove. I used a medium sized biscuit cookie tin cut out the bottom, sliced it down the seam. I can adjust it tight to the stove or bend it open to the make it wider works great. I also use the lid upside down to set the stove on to give protection from a tabletop or just ground. Thanks man your ribs are always great! Stay warm stay safe keep the faith
Right on. Sounds like a good build. Thanks for commenting
the walmart rulers are sweet find, this video is a new mod for my IKEA stove, I'm now waiting for the covid lock down to end so I can mod my stove ,this was a GREAT video
Glad you found the video helpful. Let me know how your stove mods work out for you
I use the taller Walmart strainer with an internal chimney. Chimney is made from a tin can (slightly smaller in diameter than the stove) with both ends cut out. It seems to work just as well. Tin can chimney will eventually burn out (about a year) but cheaper and easier to find a replacement. Also more compact. Your stove vids remind me of Hiram Cook’s channel on stoves.
I was inspired by Hiram, the master. Try and external chimney, it may last longer. Thanks for commenting
Great idea, Mark. Especially using the stainless steel container to regulate the airflow. That is simply genius. The stainless steel container is called BMP Sauce Container (I don't know what that stands for). Shape of it varies a little bit, but widely used in commercial kitchens. Usually comes with a lid. I would skaletonize the pot stands to give more room to exhaust and use short angle brackets for feet to support more weight. To use the Alocs stove, how about bending the skewers a little in the middle to fit more snuggly around the alcohol stove? I am sure they will still fit through the holes. Again, amazing idea!
Great suggestions. I think the BMP may be Bain Marie Pot, A form of cooking with hot water. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thank you, Mark. Learned something today.
You have some great ideas for stoves. I like your thrift stores. Round here we have several with crap and little to make these hobo stoves. I'll keep looking though. Thanks.
Unfortunate. The thrift store is has endless possibilities to a creative mind... and even those who aren't so creative like me. Thanks for commenting
Mark, I really appreciate the way you show multiple items and techniques for creating and using your stoves. I'm researching things to use during power outages. (We get some nasty ice storms as well as tornadoes here in middle Tennessee. In 1989, some folks were without power for three weeks. Even in the city, people were without power for three days)
I understand what you are saying. We woke up to 25" of snow this morning. Can happen anywhere. Thanks for commenting
Thoroughly enjoyable presentation. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for commenting
The only thing I might suggest is a slightly larger 'chimney'. It may improve bottom height efficiency by allowing just enough more air. Or maybe just get a couple sticks at base of chimney to lift it to the bottom of the burner. Over all a brilliant idea. Tho the one rocket stove I have actually seen has had even sized chimney and feed, but no other air intake above the feed. That I could see anyway. It is a pellet stove heating my neighbours RV.
Worth trying for sure. Thanks for commenting
Mark, wonderful modifications!
Glad you liked the video. Thanks for commenting
I always appreciate your DIY approach to hobo stoves Mark. The first video of yours I watched was making a hobo stove, since I have made many my self. Now I have some new ideas, thanks to you and Value Village etc. Keep the ideas coming my friend. Cheers!
Glad you are enjoying my videos. Thanks for commenting
Great concept. Guess I will not be cutting the side hole out. I bought both sizes of the "utensil strainers" a couple months ago at an IKEA in Florida.
Right on. Have fun with your designs. Thanks for commenting
Excellent video Mark. Very impressive design mods. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting
Very good! There must be a Royal Canadian Society of innovative hobo stove awards put together for you! Very enjoyable that video, thanks. There is a French supermarket I found that sells a slightly taller version of the IKEA strainer at about €3 a pop...I’ll check dimensions. Easier to work with than risk continued lockdown legislation. Such is modern life. cheers ou bon appétit...
Actually, all Canadians are good at DIY😉. Thanks for the kind words
RUclipsr Hiram Cook has some similar styles. He also goes to thrift stores to get his materials. That is why I like your models too! I love the recycling and reuse of materials that are easy to access for just about anyone. Thanks
Right on. Watched Hiram for years. Thanks for commenting
Excellent video, I appreciate it. I've now used this hobo design (without the rocket chimney part) in cold, snowy and windy conditions several times and it has performed very well. I didn't have a wind cover solution other than placing the stove near some rocks on the ground and that worked well enough in 8 m/s "fresh breeze" wind. The stove cools down very fast after use. I will have to try out the "chimney"/coffee can style addition it looks very cool.
Glad you liked the video. You can purchase folding panel aluminum windscreens on Amazon and Aliexpress for a reasonable price. They are great for a stove like this. I have also used aluminum flashing to make a windscreen. I wrap it around the stove inside the stuff sack. Thanks for commenting
I bought a four-pack of the Siege Stove cross bars. Gave them as Christmas gifts. Expensive but very well made and nearly indestructible with reasonable care Steve at Siege Stoves is a great guy to deal with too.
I have a video review of the Siege Stove cross members and just received the full Siege Stove in titanium to test out. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Yes Mark, I’ve watched your previous video on the Siege Stove cross members. I have their stove in SS and I do like it. Expensive but a durable design. I would have preferred it to include a “5th” side with a feed port. Steve says it’s not needed but I really don’t like to remove a frypan or pot to add fuel. I’ve not asked him yet if he would consider selling me a single side piece that I could modify for my needs. I watched a recent video by Nagularo and I believe he was using a tall Firebox stove. After the cooking was done, he put some long, wrist sized sticks, vertically into the stove. I was sorta shocked but as the flames licked upwards and lit those sticks... I could see the method to his madness. It created a large fire and put out a lot of heat, all while still being contained within the Firebox. It gave more of a mesmerizing fire, the kind we all love about a campfire. I know lots of the stoves and your videos deal more with a single load fire, more suited to boiling water but I want a more versatile setup. I greatly enjoy your channel and the information you share. I’ve bought stoves because I liked what I saw in your demonstrations. Keep up the great work and stay safe. 👍👏🙏
Ever try the Crisco candle for cooking, light, and heating, inside your shelter?
No, I see that as more of a survival skill than a woods skill. Thanks for commenting
Love the experimentation, really enjoy your informative explanations and the overall presentation.
Thanks so much interesting and enthusing.
I took the tallest strainer I could fine from my charity shop and Poundland shop trawling, Junior hacksawed off the bottom about 6mm below the lowest side holes. Filed off sharp edges. Flipped the bottom over, carefully placed the top portion, ( right way up), over the bottom and using a 4x2 timber tapped the top down.
Using the upper parts lowest set of holes (now blinded), as guides, drilled through the solid upside down rim of the original bottom.
You now have a fire grate about 12/17 mm up from the ground but vented below and all around the circumfrance.
Hope my description can be followed.
I will defiantly add your outer chimney, thank you.
Take care, regards Colin
Right on. I like your design. Thanks for commenting
Awesome, draft is king 😄
I saw plenty of pyrolysis in the top down view, it was obvious to me. I think this is a winner combo, I’ll be looking to find one of those canisters for my hobo now.
Tam’s measure of efficiency is one load to boil our gallon pot lol!
Tam is way too practical. She thinks more like and off-grid prepper😊.
@@MarkYoungBushcraft yeah absolutely she does, planning to go back to it again too.
Boy, Mark, you are a real thinking machine! You could have been a designer in another life. Not only that, but you casually use words like "pyrolysis" instead of combustion forcing me to look words up online. :-) Finally, it is evident that you're well-read as I listen to your "sign off" with a nod to Robert Frost. Great informative video.
Thank you for your kind words
Hi I’ve just found your vids and have now subscribed, I saw on another u tube Chanel about using an ikea drainer and brought two three weeks ago (25/3/23) so they are still available
Yes, I also found them still available. Cheap at Ikea but cheaper still at thrift stores. Thanks for commenting
I use my windscreen from my alcohol stoves to my ikea hobo stove so it helps to riderect the flame upwards. 😊I get the same efect Mark 😊. Cheers
Yes, the Ikea benefits greatly from a windscreen. The even tighter canister creates even more of a rocket effect. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft thanks for the reply 👍
I left a container just like that at VV the other day. I didn't think I needed another 16cm pot. Have to go back and see if it's still there.
I did my first top-down burn in the Firebox this week. I'm definitely using that more often.
If you ever need a good knob for the lid of a campfire pot, run a stainless steel bolt up through the lid and secure it with a nut. Then put a big, ugly blob of silicone sealer (I use black) all around the bolt, maybe 1/2" diameter. It won't conduct heat out from the bolt and can take a lot more heat than plastic. Good grip,too.
Great suggestion on the knob. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I usually start watching these videos with "I don't need another stove." I went back to VV. The container was gone, but I found a 12cm Ikea strainer and a slightly shorter 14cm container. Machined some feet and cut the bottom out of the container. Just going down to the shop to cut up the Walmart ruler.
I tried out the new hobo last week - full load of very dry alder. At one point, it was sending up very clean 18" flames. Lasted more than long enough to boil water for my Chai and roast a smokie. A really good innovation.
Nice. Very well done. Looks like I have a project. Thanks and stay well.
Let me know how it works out for you. Thanks for commenting
You could try using double-wall insulated stove pipe as your chimney. Available in sizes at least as small as 6" length/6" inner diameter and up to at least 24" length/9" inner diameter. While it would likely be less packable, it would give you heat retention.
You can also find air-insulated double-wall stove pipe with similar dimensions that would be lighter, or use single-wall stove pipe for the best packability.
B vent
@@brucematys8597
From what I can find, B vent has an aluminum inner pipe which wouldn't likely handle the high heat very well. I've burned aluminum to ash in a basic, open-pit campfire.
Interesting idea. I will take a look around. Thanks for commenting
I have two of the Ikea containers but couldn't find any on their website. 2:20 to boil is impressive. That's a nice kit, Mark. Very well done. Except for the size, the other stoves in this world have *overwhelming* competition. I really like your mods, you did an extraordinary job. The inserts you found look like they were made for that stove!
Size or bulk is the only issue with the setup unless you can nest it like I was able to. So many options out there. Thanks for commenting
Wonderful stove Mark, very versatile! Thanks for sharing. :)
Hey Jackie. I have fun building these things. Thanks for commenting
I have a suggestion: the end of the conduit clamp straits it out. By straiting them out you will have a wider foot print. I did see quit a difference in the active burn. A notable difference in the burn more like on a gas cook stove eye from a medium low to a high
Great suggestion. Worth considering. Thanks for commenting
Great idea Mark. I wander if using a stove top heat diffuser between the pot and pot stand would control the fire from rolling up around the side of pot. You have so much heat it might not diffuse it enough to make a great difference. I fine them at thrift stories all the time. Two pieces of perforated metal seamed together with a space between them and handle.
I have been playing with a diffuser but have not tested it on this stove yet. Thanks for commenting
In Australia IKEA is still selling the taller utensil strainer and the shorter one most are using in North America.
Interesting. I am seeing both here but more of the shorter. Thanks for commenting
For the size and overall cost of the hobo stove compared to a $40 gassifed twig stove i would rather the twig stove.
But i just discovered that the smaller version of the ikea pencil holder is a much more compact design that allows the stanley adventure cook set to nestle inside of it. I just to grab a wide mouth brimmed water bottle pouch to place it all in and it will create the narrowest and tallest cook set ive seen yet. Which would increase the chimney effect even more
I have a video on that as well. Thanks for commenting
I have seen these utensil holders at Target, Walmart and on Amazon. If you don't have one of those stores around I have seen people alter coffee cans with a beer bottle opener and use wire hangers to create different levels of cook space
Thanks for commenting
You are awesome! I love the upgrades to your first model, too! Please do me a favor and stack all of it the bag including chimney and alternative fuel plates along with the trangia and weigh the entire system. Could you please let me know? Thanks so much for all you do!
All in with Trangia (no fuel) 2lb 8oz. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I thank you!!🌞
Even Better Ideas Again, Mark ! What A Performance There, Thanks, Friend. Stay Safe ! ATB T God Bless
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting Terry
Mainstays makes them for Walmart. It's the same as the tall Ikea utensil holder.
Good to know. Thanks for commenting
Another remarkable vedio from you sir. Can we try tuflon tape wrap on the outside shell to reduce heat loss? I know tuflon tape melts at 327 degree C. I use it on my pressure cooker for a long time. Your vedios are really inspiring. Thank you. 🙏
Thank you for your kind words. I would suggest a material like fiberglass or carbon felt as insulation as they resist high heat and would be easier to work with
Thank you for the fast reply❤️
Hi Mark, the possibilitys with this stove are endless.. i use the crossbars from the Kelly Kettle.. cause i had then.. and they are not really expensive...
with your rocketstove version.. its also possible to feed sticks at the hole at the side of your stove.
another idea is, to cut only a smaler hole into the bottom of the coffee can, smaller than the width of the ikea.. than the room.. between the Ikea and the coffeecan is closed if you put it upside down on the ikea.. the secondary air effect should work better..
i hope, you understand the meaning.
A further idea, is to make a reducing at this construction, to use a small stovepipe for a small tentstove.. its only an idea for testings in the future..😂
This rocketstove version is for sure, a possibility to heat a Tipitent with an open fire, nearly smoke free or - less instead a firepit inside the tent.
i also use the computervent at the lowerest holes of the ikea as a burningrost, like a regular woodstove for more air underneath and that the ash can fall down easyer.
A lot of ideas... i hope you understand my declaration... i am no really goot english speaker!
Have fun stay healthy Mark and move on with the ideas that you have... greetings
Hans from south Germany
You have some very interesting ideas. I will consider them for sure. Thanks for commenting
and I understand your English just fine
@@MarkYoungBushcraft thank you!
@@MarkYoungBushcraft.. try a Potstand lid from a chinese woodgasstove on top of the ikea... or maybe it will work on top of the Coffeecan for a better gasification when the hot air is concentrated...
@@hansschmid3937 interesting idea. I will give it a try
so many clever Canadian ideas!!
Thanks for commenting
That looks like a interesting project,,,, If I didn’t already own 2 Firebox stoves,, I might give it a go,,, Great video,, and interesting
Joshua
I think most of the fun is in the making. I own all the Firebox stoves. (Gen 2 and Nano in SS and Ti) but I still like playing with these builds. Thanks for commenting
Brilliant. Just brilliant.
Glad you lied it. Thanks for commenting
For the legs, I suggest using locking nuts (not nylock though). That way you can tighten them down just enough to allow them to swivel but still be firm. Then you don't have to loosen them to rotate the legs.
Great suggestion. Thanks for commenting
Great improvement Mark! So funny. I've been looking at coffee cans at the store trying to figure out a way to control or focus the burn in my Ikea Hobo stove. I never thought of using a old stainless. It would be so much better than a coffee can.
Worth trying the coffee can first to see how you like it. Thanks for commenting
I do not know if they are ikea but Walmart sells identical utensil holders. Have seen solid walled cans also.
I am sure they will work just as well. Thanks for commenting
Great video Mark!
I think that I'm going to try something like that wiith my Firebox Titanium G2 stove!!!
Interesting idea. I had not thought of moding my Firebox. Thanks for commenting
Hello Sir, dear Marc,
that's an impressive demonstration and I don't want to critize any of your "laboratory"
testings! 🙏
But after many years of my real outdoor "testings", also in multiple choices for a "fire" system,....
I prefere the Trangia 27 system.
It's safe in stormy conditions, I can use it out- & indoor,.....
And all cooking items I can also use on a "simple" fire between stones!
That's just my opinion,...
Best regards
Your opinions are always welcome. Trangia makes really great cook systems.
Thanks for the information on your modified IKEA wood stove. I built an IKEA stove based on your earlier model with legs and open port to feed fuel but used it in a different exterior can. I inserted your IKEA style stove in a 3 pound coffee can with air holes based on #davesrealsurvial for "161. Easiest Tin Can Rocket Stove". This style of stove was not as efficient as your modification but was easy to build. I boiled 2 cups of water in 4:15 in a Stanley Adventure Cup that is not an ideal diameter for boiling water. I still need to build the pot stand and will use your design using the ss ruler from Walmart. Thanks for sharing some of your outdoor adventures and evaluations with your viewers.
You are most welcome. I love to hear about other peoples experience modifying their Ikea stoves. Thanks for commenting
thnx 4 ur time.. i keep improving... no need to reply ,,, i wont reply .. i like to support people 4 thr time... thnx again.
Always welcome
Hi Mark, great ideas here, I definitely share and love your 'hobby' of playing around with hobos and trying to improve their useability and performance. It is a lot of creativity and fun, and watching videos about that topic is almost same fun and gives me always great new ideas. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Well, just wanted to say that these 'utensil strainers' are still available at Ikea, at least here in India. But they are called 'cutlery stand' - maybe you search for that term and find it again also in your country's Ikea?
Next to Ikea, we can purchase this specific type of stand or strainer or how ever it is called in any common supermarket here for almost no money. There are also different sizes of these stands available, and I found out the smaller ones are enough for most of my purposes. One can save tons of wood by using just one or two sizes smaller. The smaller ones fit also in small pots or mugs, so instead of transporting the pot in the stove one can also assembling a vice versa kit.
I am challenging myself since a couple of years to save as much wood as possible when using a hobo stove. I definitely love hobos and cook almost daily outside just for fun and keeping up my practise, means I use these things also a lot at home. Saving wood adds some extras to the experimenting with stoves and cooking - it is less work to prep wood and saves a lot of unneccessary CO2 emissions, and at least for me it is simply a wonderful challenge and fun.
I do not want to place a link here because my comment would then end up in your spam as youtube filters all comments with links (even links to other youtube videos), but I have uploaded some while back a video titled 'Rice Cooking Challenge' where I use a small version of these cutlery stands (and some gimmicks more) to boil 120 g of Basmati Rice using only 43 g of wood (dry eucalyptus).
In case you are planning to watch that video you can jump directly to 4:20 when the cooking starts - before is some fund raising but this has nothing to do with hobo stoves ... ;-) - there you can also see the setup I used. And of course, I would be glad if you would be also bitten by the bug to do any hobo cooking in future with the least amount of wood anyhow possible ;-)
Regards from India, Robert
Here is the direct link to the video, just in case it doesn't end in your spam-nirvana:
ruclips.net/video/MRBj6nrPjTc/видео.html
Hello fellow DIY stove enthusiast. There are a good number of items I have made stoves from that I still need to share. I will be sure to watch your video. Thanks for commenting
@@marioschutrumpf9463
Thanks a lot for watching my video and even commenting about it, and yes I try to minimize the use of wood as best as I can, investing a lot of thinking and maybe even more trial and error in finding the best way to cook rice and other stuff outdoors 🤣
Interestingly, even though many of us are kind of wood stove geeks, minimizing the use of wood seems not to be a big topic in hiking/outdoor/bushcraft circles. Watching youtube one could even get the impression that everybody burns wood as if there is no tomorrow. What is of course understandable considering that we use our fantastique and beloved wood stoves during our outdoor activities usually in an environment which is full of wood. This firewood is commonly available at no costs, and because most of us outdoorers are males and absolutely love to learn and apply our skills in processing wood with axes and latest bushcraft knives and so on, it never can be enough firewood to prepare 🤣🤣🤣
But I live mostly here in India in an environment where firewood is usually not readily available but has to be gathered or even purchased, preserved from monsoon rains and so on, means it is considered to be kind of a rare and costly ressource and everybody tries not to waste it. Usually it is the fuel of the poor, means wealthy people cook mostly with kerosene, gas or electricity. So I have meanwhile got a different mindset concerning use of firewood compared to what I was used to think before I came to India. And of course I try to minimize my CO2 footprint and mind in general about nature and all that stuff ... and I would be glad if more of us outdoor guys would start to mind about not to waste too much of wood, too 😁
About the rice cooking challenge - You are totally right, usually the preparation / cooking time of rice can be cut almost in half by soaking rice for longer time (like for example overnight).
But this observation is about the duration of cooking, it does not say much about the required energy resp. fuel we use in the process. This is at least my finding, so far.
Many people which do not use wood as fuel but gas or electricity bring rice to a boil and keep the pot then warm, on trails many use for that purpose a pot cosy or so (at home one can put the rice pot in the bed and cover it nicely) in order to complete the process, such preserving the heat in the pot for the further cooking/soaking process.
I'm more or less following that process - bring everything to a boil and then keep it hot - but don't use anything extra for keeping the pot hot except the ember which forms automatically in my stove when I use wood for boiling my rice, and I do not add exta fuel/wood after the water came to a solid boil.
To me it seems (after many experiments) it takes same amount of wood to bring everything to boil, whether the rice is already soaked (and contains the liquid already) or whether not. I found in my experiments the rice is faster ready to eat if I use soaked rice, and when I cook at home (outdoors in my garden) I use to soak the rice at least for one hour before I boil it, but I was not yet able to save significantly amounts of wood for bringing everything to a boil.
I'm not a physicist but it seems the amount of energy required to heat everything up to boiling temperature is the same, whether the rice is soaked (and contains already most of the liquid required for hydration) or whether one adds slightly more water to dry rice for cooking. To me it seems so far that only the time for hydration and completing the cooking process is more if you don't soak. But this extra time doesn't need extra energy (using my method of cooking rice), I am using the wood primarily to build an open flame in order to bring everything to a solid boil, but the following soaking time over the embers doesn't need extra fuel.
There is also one very small argument against the soaking method whiles being outdoors. Means at home you would soak the rice for some hours (e.g. you soak it over night and use it in the late morning for preparing rice at lunch), but on trails most people cook only in the evenings. As nobody wants to wait for hours for the rice soaking in the evening it usually means you have to soak the rice during the day, carrying the rice with water in your rucksack until you reach your destination. It isn't much extra weight to carry, maybe just something like 200 g of water per portion of rice or so, and I found it is easily possible using a simple plastic bottle, but I guess every serious follower and missionary of the ultralight hiking cult would surely reject to do that 🤣🤣🤣
Best regards and happy trails and times in the nature! Robert
@@marioschutrumpf9463 Oh yes I remember that my grandparents used a big wooden box filled with some down feathers as their olla bruja (but no idea how they called such a box in those days in Germany, don't remember any special term). As far as I know this box was originally filled with straw but my grandmother improved the system by slaughtering an old pillow.
I guess our ancestors were all big energy savers, whether in Spain or in Germany 😁 - wow just got the idea, who knows, maybe the common use of something like an energy saving cooking box in both the countries dates even back to the reino suevo de Gallaecia, or even before that time 🤣🤣🤣 ).
My own "witch box" for kitchen use is simply my microwave - means when I cook bigger quantities of rice, what happens at least 3 times a week since we have lot of dogs, I do it in the microwave and cover the pot after boiling with a folded piece of cotton and let it sit in the microwave, which is somehow insulated since it has also convection oven functionality. Works absolutely fine.
But as I'm cooking almost daily outdoors for myself, I started with experiments around wood stove cooking and still cannot stop doing it. Nothing scientific (except that I use a scale to know how much wood I'm burning), just trial and error. There are so many screws to turn like size and shape of the pot or shape and size of the stove and so on, it is a never ending game and makes cooking a lot more interesting than simply following every day the same process 🤣
And ridiculously, the best results so far come always only from using this simple little cutlery stand as stove ... even though I am a big geek and enthusiastic user of latest models of folding stoves (e.g. Bushcraft Essentials etc), and even though I really love all this high tech titanium stuff and so on, I have to confess that I didn't find anything better in terms of energy saving than this stupidly simple and dirt cheap ikea hobo stove kind of solution ... 🤣🤣
@@bangalorebobbel yo solo soy un entusiasta de estas cosas ,y de que manera se puede lograr hacerlas, lo mas barato posible y en casa . No tengo nada con las excelentes que hay en el mercado .pero me pica el gusanillo , igual que a usted con la madera 🤣 es una especie de obsesión que me divierte muchísimo. Un abrazo y a seguir puliendo y puliendo hasta lograr la maestría. Así es como al final, termino por entender los conceptos .ahora también me pondré a investigar con el ahorro de leña 👍😉
It should be easy to experiment with restricting airflow up through the bottom by installing bolts and nuts to close off air flow holes. If all holes in the bottom were filled with bolts, it seems like that should reduce hot ashes falling on the ground.
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close the all around middle hole of the ikea hobo with aluminium tape, only remain the up side and the down side hole...so the combustion fokus at the topside hole..
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You can puncture holes in that outer can, and you have a wood gas stove that has a chimney affect like a rocket stove. Perfect!
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I've never had any luck making those nice cross pieces.
Not sure if I mentioned in this video that I use stainless steel rulers from Walmart. Still need something that will cut them like Dremel of a hack saw. Thanks for commenting
Awesome and easy 😎 👌 gr8 video 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👊
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i have a quite tight titanium windscreen around mine, which seems to control the flames better.
Cool. Do you have a video on it?
@@MarkYoungBushcraft cheers mark. yeah, in this video, i cook with it around my stove. ruclips.net/video/0hs0NbKh5Rc/видео.html
I’ve thought about heat and cooking and stoves and sterno for three years and I concluded
that COLD FRESH FOODS and tap water is the way to go.
Carry a Bic Lighter anyway but
KEEP IT SIMPLE!
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Always enjoy your information packed videos. You sir, are the Elon Musk of the wood stove! Canadian thrift stores must be wonderful. Here in Ireland they are full of junk.
Wow, thanks! Now if only I had Elon Musk's business sense
Mr. Kennedy,
📢Here in the USA, dollar stores and thrift stores are also full of junk, just like you described in Ireland. I am jealous of the Canadian stores! 🤔
Other than wood pellets something else you can use as a cheap alternative is dry dog food or dog biscuits. I saw a huge one gallon sized jug of miniature dog biscuits on sale a few years back for about $4.97 a few years ago at an Ollie’s discount store. I bet that gallon sized jug was a whole bunch cheaper than a gallon sized jug of wood pellets.
Interesting idea. I may give that s try. Thanks for commenting
I have some fiberglass fabric used to line airplanes. It is left from building chimney holes in tents. I’m wondering if it would work instead of the carbon felt to line the can?
Coincidence, I just cut up a piece of fiberglass fabric like the stuff you have. Made a mat to put under large stoves. Hard to work with as it keeps coming apart. Yes, It should work as insulation for the chimney. Thanks for commenting
The fiberglass fabric does fall apart badly. It handles best if you sew a wide zig zag double rows of stitches about a quarter to half inch apart and cut between the rows of stitches - depends on the weave - fire isn’t the thread’s friend but you won’t lose fiberglass all over the place while you are working. Figure on the carpet cutting blade and the sewing needle will be dull after using.
Would love to show u a stove I found to see if you could figure out how to duplicate. It was amazing. It was out of barrels, had never seen one designed like it and super versital almost a 3 n 1.
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Always enjoy your vids! A suggestion.. did you try flipping your strainer burner upside down when you put it in the pot and then the legs will fit into the lid ?Possibly it’ll sit in deeper in the pot. LOL whatever, continue your great descriptive video’s! Hugs from Ontario Canada keep safe and well
That is one of the best things about this project. There are so many ways of setting it up. Thanks for commenting and stay safe
To support the alcohol stove, use three rods set in a triangle shape, will hold it more stable position.
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Katom restaurant supply sells the same strainer. Check shipping cost as it may not be economical to buy from them
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Great project Mark 😎👍super
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Ofcourse Mark 😊👍
Will I have the same effect if I put a can inside held by the skewers and with holes at the bottom for the air to go through?
It will depend on the size of your pot and much of the airflow is restricted. The more room for exhaust at the top as well as the height of the chimney in relation to its diameter, the greater the effect. Hope this helps
I picked up 2 different sizes at the IKEA in Portland Oregon USA in June of 2024. I believe for under $10.00 USD.
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Awesome video Mark
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Finally have all the parts together. Now to go camping...
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Or lock washers, won’t come lose as easy but still can rotate the legs!
Yes, I should have mentioned I am using lock washers now. They work well but the wing nuts with the lock washers would be best. Thanks for commenting
Hey Mark, I got the taller Ikea utensil holder and the drain strainer was a great add-on, kudos . I Can't find the taller sugar container windscreen though, have looked in several dollar stores . What dollar store chain did you find that in? Or is there possibly an online link? Google search turned up nothing. Thanks, great build.
Actually, I found the canister in Value Village, a thrift store here in Halifax. I see them fairly often there. Hope this helps