The Company That Took Down The Internet
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- Опубликовано: 15 июн 2023
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This is why too much centralization in ANY domain is a bad idea: programming, politics, finance, logistics, McDonald's ice cream machine repair technicians, you name it. Always, always, always have a back up plan.
It's like poop. Spread out it grows things. Left in one pile and it just stinks.
@@BobSentell The best and worst analogy ever.
Yeah, that is why I dislike the increased usage of cloudflare
The mcDonalds one is from the Johnny Harris video?
@@BobSentell that has to be worst analogy of human history, you went low.
We also had a similar problem last week here in Portugal. There was an outage at an Equinix datacenter in Lisbon, and multiple websites, including banks and public services, were down for a few hours.
Was that related to east-amazon having an outage?
@@hewhohasnoidentity4377 No. They said it was a power outage.
E eu a pensar que era o modem da minha casa 😅😅
17 days later, Rogers had BGP issues, and crashed 90% of Canadian stores, 9-1-1 services, and about 1/3 of Canadian's couldn't access the internet, or use their cellphones, home phones, or home TV services. Ah, what a marvellous world we live in.
😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠
@@zzylos we all hate Rogers, Bell, and Telus. 🤣
We Canadian's don't hate much, but ... those three, we all hate.
A few years ago, I had to change my DNS server from Rogers to Cloudflare, because Rogers couldn't find the IP adress for my university's student website. It also took me way too long to realise what the problem was, all the while freaking out because I couldn't pay my tuition fees. So yeah, Rogers ain't getting any love from me.
Don't forget the 2018 fun: In less than a minute cloudflare changed a firewallrule worldwide to get rid of an exploit. Worked like a charm: 80% traffic drop. Which was caused by CPU-Overload in the Firewall. Whoopsie
LOL, they prolly activated some filter that bogs down the CPU. And those firewalls have powerful CPUs. And they're gonna need to be a lot more powerful once human hackers figure out how to train an AI to become the perfect (and lightning fast) hacker. Which they probably already have.
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 It was in fact a VERY expensive regular expression (a special kind of search term that is very powerful, but also not very easy to actually do the search) and the programm that does the actual searching was not written in an efficient way
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334. M m 😊😮😊😅t😅.
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 I'd argue that's why NVidia is focusing so heavily on the AI market for commercial enterprises. Companies are realizing this and probably working on their own AI defense
Most of the new sites attracts to cloudflare because their free tier is super generous and they provide free SSL
Well SSL is free either way
Not only free SSL but also free HTTPS! 🙄
SSL is HTTPS...
@@benjaminlynch9958have you heard of letsencrypt?
Not only free HTTPS but free TLS!
funfact : Chess Olympiad was declared a draw after a widespread internet outage interrupted play in 2020 , making India and Russia joint winners. I remember seeing it live that day , it was intense.
Chess is not chess without draws 🤣
"En Passanting the server host is not allowed."
New response just dropped
As DOTA player, I accept this LOL article as a challenge
As a Smite player, I- hold up, gotta turn around and see if there's anyone behind me... okay, as I was saying...
What's so funny (bfdi 19 reference)
I remember as a teen in the late 00s/early 2010s when I used to play a Neopets/Gaia mashup game named Subeta the site was constantly having issues with Cloudflare (the DNS service part iirc). Idk what it was about Subeta specifically that made Cloudflare act up or visa versa, but I remember that error page well.
If you see the Cloudflare Error page that means the Origin server is down. So that's probably Subeta server can't handle it.
Like or not, Cloudflare is the gateway for the Internet. Their services are just so good, it's difficult to justify not using them for web services. It'd be great if we could have more competitors and more options, but there's just no one on their level.
As far as I can tell it's not because cloudflare is somehow pushing others out of the market and keeping them from making a more competitive product. Cloudflare just keeps making it better and others aren't really able to catch up or are just unwilling to.
That's just not true, there's plenty of competitors, plenty of services you can use in place of theirs.
@@thrackerzod6097 Find me something as good as cloudflare for CDNs and DNS servers.
@@CreativityNull I think you're right about that, not to mention their amazing outage responses and transparency (unlike some companies).
@@thrackerzod6097 You could say that there are other options, but they just aren't close to competing with Cloudflare since most of the options are more general use while Cloudflare is specialized.
In Sweden we had a fun outage a few years back, I believe it was spring 2018. Some workers cut a fiber line while doing some construction work. Apparently this fiber line was the main trunk between the southern part of Sweden and the central part of Sweden. Absolutely nothing worked were I live. There was no cellphone or regular phone service since all pbx services are since a decade or a maybe more like a fee decades completely digital. Since there was no phone or internet there was no way to purchase anything without cash and we were unable to use our ATMs since they are connected to our banking system through the internet, or the phone network as a backup The reason for this is because the ATM always checks your account balance before you can withdraw anything (at least that's how I understand it).
Talk about getting some idea of how it would be if we get a powerful sun flare😁 That for sure is something I'm NOT looking forward to.
It took them about 10-12 hours to get the line repaired so it would work again, part of that was finding the cut because the workers who cut it hadn't noticed. The one thing Telia,(one of the biggest, if not the biggest ISP in Sweden and also the owner of the fiber) never cleared up is why the redundant connection didn't work at all; however, I've heard some people speculating that both cables actually got cut because the cut happened right outside the building with the ISPs equipment. However, looking at the options, they aren't that many.
~They cut both cables.
~The config where bad so the fail over simply didn't work.
~Faulty equipment that for some reason had not been swapped and because of that the fail over didn't work.
Those are the options I can think of.
Any other ideas folks? 😊
I mean, I get that it's essentially a glorified load balancer, but this much centralization of the internet is a dangerous thing.
It is more than that. They also host most of the DNS servers themselves.
So URLs could not resolve. I do recall that thing happening more than just once, too. Ideally, get a pi, host your own DNS server. Sure, you wont have all IPs in there (well... i suppose in theory you could, not like thats a ton of data, even if i was to assume every URL and IP is a whole 1000 characters which its not thatd be only one terrabyte... staying up to date could possibly be an issue) but itll have your most commonly used URLs.
We used to use Cloudflare back in the day as our CDN for our forums to hold back DDoS attacks, but it was garbage for that it seemed. Further, I found it would constantly get in the way of certain site things like uploading and VPNs, so we finally just dumped them. Haven't looked back since.
@@rtg5881 I run a PiHole at home which servers as more or less a DNS cache with upstream DNS servers you can configure, and it also lets me block content like embedded ads on webpages, or sites/pages on my kids' devices.
@@rtg5881that’s not how DNS works, DNS has time to live and it needs to refresh after that.
Nono, the centralization makes sites more reliable! /s
2:09 - "A single point of failure for a huge portion of the internet". I'm sure this is a perfectly apt description of quite a few social websites out there... especially those that went dark recently, or smelling a tad musky.
Was this in the news? I would have redd it
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Cloudflare 🤝 AWS
Taking half the internet down if they goof
and Microsoft taking down the business world if their Exchange Online has another problem again...
At least Cloudflare protected it in 2017 when it backed Marcus's WannaCry "stopping" server. It didn't stop the currently infected systems from spreading the malware, but it sure did help a ton.
I feel like cloudflare has goofed WAY less than AWS
On this same thread... an oops by Roger's took out Interac for several hours, causing Canadians to not be able to buy anything with Debit or Credit Cards across the country, as Interac may have had redundant data links... they were from the same ISP. It also took out internet for all their other customers too. Then few months later... another issue took out several provinces 911 services!
For many years, I always thought CDN meant "Canadian" because I live in, well, Canada. It took me some time to realize that it meant something completely different.
If you open an image on a new tab on some websites you'll sometimes see CDN in thee domain name.
I love you trying to explain the weird things about my life and lively hood to people who don’t understand or have insight into how the internet actually works now
Can you make a video that explains what patch panels are?
And then there was the one time an employee was told to dismantle an old used rack, pulled one fibre out and killed the entire Cloudflare customer access😂
Just in time for AWS us-east-1 going down.
I was awake during this and it was CRAZY, every other website I tried was down with some ngix error popping up.
I'm a little surprised that this video wasn't discussing the AWS outage last week.
You could do one of these about the massive Rogers outage in 2022 as well.
I forgot that this wasn't an LTT sponsor spot. It really feels like one.
Quick criticism, a portion of your video was confusing as it was written. In the beginning of the video you mention an incident in 2022 then mention it again without the timing towards the end of the video. The problem is that your bridge to mentioning it in 2020 made it sound like it happened after the 2022 incident which was helped by not mentioning the time again the second time you mentioned the 2022 incident.
We also saw this problem of too many eggs in one basket when AWS East-1 went down earlier this week, and it was having trouble for much longer.
Cloudflare for only having less than a handful of major incidents I think is doing an excellent job. I personally use them and have very few problems (other than dynamic DNS updates. They only work for non-WWW subdomains for some reason.) The interface is incredibly easy to use and the documentation is pretty good.
Amazing, 1 thing goes down and everything goes poof. Thats what happens when everyone relies on that 1 thing... No matter how good that thing is, it will eventually fail. Even if its just 1 time every 10 years, disruptions will be hard to avoid. This video finally explains what Cloudflare is, i never knew and i kept on wondering.
Techquckie doing its job
The part I think most people miss is how Cloudflare is way better at what they do then any one else. So yes you could set up your own cdn but your not going to do it with less errors and less down time then the experts in the field.
So no one is gonna talk about AWS outage 😅
The short steps for plugging in s single Ethernet cord hit home. Its exactly what ive been doing for some companies for the past several months, drive 4 hours, patch a single fiber cable, drive 4 hours home.
I love how you read their bio like an ad spot lmao
Thanks for the video!
I actually remember when Discord, LoL and others become down!
what LTT Video is that at 0:50 and what was the streaming service that made "an incomprehensibly bad naming decision"
Time to get that Mobo and Test the 4 Gen 5 M.2 slots Linus promised me at 2:31 . The picture says otherwise but I trust Linus! 🙏
Cloudflare also has some rather intrusive browser-checking systems for some websites. Not sure if they offer site hosting or just certain services for sites, but some sites that I used to frequent would have a delay when clicking to a new page as it did these intrusive "browser checks" so I just stopped using those sites.
Websites that are prone to hacking attempts have increased security requirements, its a service cloudflare provides on demand, eg. During times of suspected attack.
The alternative to the security check which is basically a captcha is the website itself going down during and after the attacks
@@dyoo3603 The main website I kept seeing this on wasn't doing it just at rough times, it was every bloody page click. I'd rather deal with a captcha than that invasive crap.
@@dyoo3603 Yes, because Cloudflare would never gather your personal data during one of these security checks , nor would they use these mechanisms to protect the Google/Microsoft search duopoly .
@@ffsireallydontcarethere's not really much they can access other than what other websites can see about your browser anyway.
@@little-wytch That's not on Cloudflare, tho.The website themselves enabled this
Nice job, Robert Oakes. I enjoyed the sneaky self-photo. 😉
Cloudflare is a MITM attacker's wet dream.
It's gotten worse at least once - when Level 3 misconfigured one of their core routers and LITERALLY took down almost all of the Internet for a day and a half.
When you could not even get through to GOOGLE (and Amazon), you know it was a BIG issue.
All I know is that Bitt shoot (happy, bot police?) requires their javascript to be enabled to watch videos there.
I just had a $million dollar idea!
A litter box for dogs!!!
Dogs would totally use it. They would understand the concept so quickly!
When this happened I called Comcast to report an outage cause it was stormy that day so i just figured that happened, found this out the next day when i had internet back. (i still use cloudflare
and my home server was offline i checked it occasionally at work to see if my internet was back Its on cloudflare originally bought it on name cheep but switched everything to cloudflare even paying for the name. its only about 5$ a year for the domain name.
Cloudflare argo tunnels are great for selfhosting
Which streaming service recently made an 'incomprehensibly bad naming decision"?
I mean, I know Floatplane is a weird name, but it's not that bad...
Crazy that they are still in the same building in sf
wow that is very dangerous to have these internet outages once in a few years. i mean people can actually end up reading a book
It's a lot more complicated then that
Did youtube upgrade their compression? The video quality is way better than it used too.
0:47 - Anyone know what this is referring to?
HBO Max
Textbook example of the downside of the TCP/IP networking standard, it's actually "decentralized" (notice the quotes.)
That Linus segway makes me want to change DNS, Browser and ad blocker all at once
Cloudflare is just so good.. I mean I dont have to pay for my DNS Records or my DDOS protection.. as a developer with no money its great hosting my domain for free
Too much centralization of the internet. Almost every domain is heading in this direction. 😢
We use something similar, and to be honest trying to do this stuff on your own over almost 30 countries will cause more downtime than any of these big CDNs. Mark my senile gibbering sleep-deprived words.
yeeep... first time CF had some issues, my boss was like "we can't rely on cloudflare anymore, we need to have our own version"... took a while to explain the scope of this project far outweighs the inconvenience of an occasional dropout. Plus we can tell clients "Cloudflare down, not our problem, just wait for them to fix it, like the rest of the world" :D
@@eTiMaGo Reminds me a lot of Office 365 sure I could host exchange in house spend huge amounts of time maintaining it and getting calls at 2 am when it has issues. Or I can let Microsoft do that and then on the rare occations it breaks it is their fault and responsibility to fix not mine.
No Riley, “DNS” is short for *”Domain Name Server”*
Dan can be helpful but also scary
I hate seeing ads in techquickie.
Sure would be cool if they made a V4 Predator 😂. Although you can get lightly used 2.0L 'Japan spec' Subaru motors for $600.
That's not a Monday detail .Michael!!!
Oh…so it was accidental few I thought it was something else like, oh, I don’t know ON PURPOSE!
Using dna benchmark they are number one with my dsl co but cable there local dns was better but I have even better with pfsense local dns except for when it goes searching it’s 500ms slower then cloud flare
I actually watched your sponsor because: Starfield. 😂
My brother's company uses cloudfare for its websites and he was not happy when it went down. 😂
Putting my IPv6 server behind cloudflare make it accessible from IPv4
Isn't it "Domain Network Service"?
How about a Tech Quickie on GitHub, etc....? 🤔
4:26 - if that list is sorted by idn , smells like an off-by-one error, lol!!
Haha, I have reflex to tap for fast forward when I hear “League of Legends” 😂
Why didnt I hear anything about an internet outage last year?
"There goes comcast" *Ding*
I really hate that TrashFlare
oh this was a video? look like a infomercial for cloudflare.
Because of that, I'm using my own nameservers and cdn
So cloud fare was why my discord made me do phone verification for no reason
Aaah, so almost everything runs with Cloudfare. Great... I'll remember this tip when needed.
4:38 had me dying 😂😂😂
Does DNS still need to be explained in every video?
Wasn't there a similar issue somewhere in the past were many Google services were down due to an accidental "/" that was added in the code?
You guys could've explained the issue a little better than a single line of code. I get that it's supposed to be a quick video, but you should explain that the internet runs on routing protocol EBGP and that it's not really a dynamic routing protocol therefore routes must be added manually, in the correct order, and redistributed routes may need to be filtered. Yes DNS can wreck havoc as well. People don't understand that the internet, or the so called "cloud" is NOT PFM, and that there is no such freaking thing as a cloud. It's someone else's servers in someone else's data center plain and simple.
Did Cloudflare's outage affect any backbone or only sites using their servers?
it only affected people using cloudflare's DDoS protection
@@heavy0119 So the title is very misleading.
@@soundspark yup, stuff like this is why I kinda avoid LTT now
@@heavy0119 When Akamai went down that was quite disastrous.
For a moment I thought this was a cloudflare ad.
Was the incomprehensible naming decision Floatplane?
Sure !
DNS = Domain Name Server, Domain Name Service or Domain Name System? I have literally heard and seen all of them in all kinds of different networking stuff. XD
This is pretty good
Now look into akamai and fastly
oh, i was told it was AWS servers that went down that caused all the issues that month.
Only thing possibly faster than Techquickie is the comments
Well that company is now officially my Enemy.
I would love to see techquickie come to spotify, after all they can be easily enjoyed without video. This would make listening offline easier for many people.
Thank you Cloudflare Warp for letting me play online games on College Wifi
They mess up a pointer in the code a pointer shuts the the internet
I agree , Internet must be down, as soon as posibble. People be manage reality with real close physical activity, for better future,
even i use cloudflare for my personal website
Cloudflare also has a lot of other services you can use for FREE
And how do they pay for it? Hmm? Are you, as a user of their free services, throwing the people who view your site/services under the bus as Cloudflare gathers, stores, aggregates, analyses and sells their data? Cloudflare has to pay for it somehow...
"One day, a planet, called Earth, went down, and took all the internet with it. So what even is "Earth?""
This is what these videos sound like, half the time. But only for us IT non-professionals.
How can one be so amazingly likeable as Riley is? I just don't get it. He is such a great guy! Love you Riley ❤ (mostly platonic 😜)
good humour
Because he's Ned Flanders
@@NeonVisualSorry friend. I knew Ned Flanders, and Riley is no Ned Flanders. 🤓
Do a
Techquickie on LoL, and how toxic that is haha. I dare ya, cus it's probably impossible to do it fast. Talk about a deep rabbit hole.
Why didn't you guys talk about the Roger's outage back in 2022? This was bigger then Cloudflare's network outage...don't get me wrong it's massive, but an entire ISP going down for somewhat near 36-hours was even bigger.
You have to give them credit for screwing up in 2022 and doing it again in 2020.
*2020 and again in 2022
@@kevinwong_2016 "You must be so fun at parties"
@@kevinwong_2016 Of course. But "although Cloudflare understandably vowed to not let this happen ever again, there was a similar ... in 2020" makes it seem like they messed up again in the past.
I remember when Facebook took it's self off the grid by accident in a similar situation..oops.
1:18
wow, a video by Riley without those cornyass jokes? it's now becoming better.
good job 👍 keep it up.
I thought DNS is domain name Service
My country, Algeria cuts the internet for the whole territory every year for a week to prevent student from cheating in bachelor exam 🙂