Tired of hearing about Jeremy Chinn and how Evero couldn’t make him work in his system. Chinn finished 50th in ranking at the safety position. He’s a box safety/LB hybrid. It’s a decent starter but he’s not all world. Edge & S does need to get addressed this offseason.
@@DavisDoesFilm Traditionally when someone says that a pro organization is stable, they are not referring to one year of retaining what you mention. If this thing implodes and Evero or someone else is fired mid season, QB goes down, Dan is fired for not filling out the team, etc would anyone call 1.5 - 2 years stable? Definitely better than a mid season firing but, I think Panthers have a couple years before they can be labeled "stable".
That used to be the case but now more and more we're seeing these receivers coming in the league bawling they're on a whole nother level then how it used to be @@MitchellWells-s9f
Keep in mind, if you fix the run defense, thats more oppurtunities to get interceptioms and sacks. Law of probability supports that fixing the run defense will also increase our turnover, primarily incerceptions, percentage
I'm gonna give XL some grace. Remember the first year or two and people were calling for Derrick Brown to be cut? Outside of his injury, he was THE best player on the team last season.
I feel like for offense the most interesting part is the running back situation. Like do you keep Miles because he decided to play good for the last game? His contract to me feels overpaid for his performance. Brooks is a tragic situation but he is a rookie so you're looking to see him maybe appear at the very end of next season and stay healthy. But in the mean time we only have Chuba and Boone. I doubt they'll really do anything with Boone even tho his performance was pretty well, so in that sense I'm curious if they'll draft another running back or grab one from free agency. I'd like to see a speedster who can attack the edges and do some spin moves on folks. Also hope to have at least 8 wins next season, it really is up to the defense to win us games, Keep Pounding
That Gelo song does indeed take it back to the Hot Boy$ Ca$h Money era...I'm a older millennial myself. I really hope Abdul Carter/ Mason Graham/James Pearce falls to Carolina at 8...
If we rework some deals like moton and make sure we keep mike jackson and Keep JC on a 4 year deal with a huge sign on bonus so we save money and we have a much better team also we need to cut some players as well that gives us more cap space and we can trade the rams second pick for a WR like Jacoby Myers from the raiders or even Pickens from the steelers it's possible
I have a buddy of mine that's a Chiefs fan. He would beg to differ. Do you recall the Chiefs losing to the Pats in the Playoffs when Brady was still around to go to the Super Bowl? Pats just ran the ball on them all the time and the Chiefs couldn't stop anything. The 3-4 is not a defense that can stop the run consistently, especially Evero's. I'm against continuing to put up with it at this point. Especially since the NFL seems to be going back to a running league day by day.
@@jarrodmiller9213 He won't be there when we pick. We'll probably have to pick the Georgia DE that's from NC or the Penn State DE. Which I would prefer the Penn State DE.
@@DrJack-xn1rn The Bucs in our division run the 3-4 and have the 4th best run stopping defense. It's all about having the right personnel. Can't be consistent without that in any scheme.
I really don't like the decision to keep Evero. His resume as a DC isn't very good. In Denver, he took over the #3 scoring defense in the NFL and in his sole season as their coordinator took them to . . . 12th. He has now overseen two of the worst scoring defenses in Panthers history. This is the guy we are standing by? Why? Seems like a great guy, no doubt. But he hasn't shown the ability build or turn around a defense, and that's something we do need. With all the staff turnover around the NFL, why did we not at least spend a few weeks evaluating our options? Could we have enticed Robert Saleh to come here? What about Mike Zimmer? Anyone who has built a high end defense in the last 10 years.
XL gets to go through his first NFL off-season and I'm sure he'll put in the work to his hands right. I can see frantic improvements from him and Coker. Still would like to see another dawg WR though.
I am scared to move up in the draft based on what we gave up to do that in the past, but since we need another corner and a WR would it be worth trying to go up and get Travis Hunter at #3 pick who you could spot play at WR and give you a huge boost when needed and be a game changing playmaker corner?
My guess is the scheme does not allow the players to be play makers - will the scheme on defense attract defensive free agent talent? LUVU walked for a reason.
Quick little tidbit… if we won those 4 games you alluded to, the Bucs would’ve been 9-8 and we’d have been 9-8 as well. Idk how the tie breaker would’ve worked though.
Thought on this? Canales has experience coaching with Robert Saleh… why retain evero yet another year when he soon will probably be gone and we are starting over. Why not start over now and hire a former colleague and friend (and imo an awesome defensive coach) and that’s 1 year that will be progress towards the next season. Stability by keeping Evero? Just don’t see it… especially when we don’t have the guys we need, we aren’t using the guys we have right… just not a lot of things are working out and don’t see them working out while he is here. And OF they did… then he’s gone bad we start over. Feel that we need to start over th defense NOW. And work towards building something new. Especially when the guys HE used to coach and that he wanted, (ie the safeties) SUCK… bad plays and missed tackles all day long. Just what u witnessed and saw…
Maybe we'll get lucky, and some other team will want to hire him away from us as their head coach. Mainly from his track record before his time with the Panthers. That being said, I don't see it happening. lol
I'm pretty sure the scheme is great in theory, but I think Evero is too rigid in his philosphies. He couldn't find a role for Chinn, and now he's using Wallace as a cover LB, although he's best when allowed to attack the LoS, because that's what his scheme calls for...
You're saying we had more strip sacks without our superstar edge rusher. And saved money using it to improve the OL? I'm fine with that in a building year.
Im starting to think we can trade the 8th pick for miles Garrett and mabe get some late round picks but I feel like Hendrickson may be on the market as well from the Bengals ad mabe we can get him and Garrett lol trade the 8th for Garrett and sign Hendrickson hell that would change the D line for sure give them both massive deals alot or it sign on bonus and use the draft for other holes sure we don't sign a big name WR but we can see who is in the UDFA class but if we look at what I'm saying we can get miles Garrett for that 8th pick and some late round pick the browns have 3 6th round picks take that get some depth at S and CB and OL
lol Step 1 for Morgan- don’t listen to media and just Bryce fans that are just going to want us to draft all WRs and oline so he can get better numbers and scapegoat the team bc they keep losing bc they spent all their quality resources on offense again. We are thin in resources and only have 1 top 55 pick (still owe bears our early 2nd) and we are bottom half of the league in available money in salary cap. We need to hit on defense to be competitive as a team
I dont like people talking about athletes when can you go out thereafter catch or why you wasn't drafted do you know what the players injuries are? I've learnedifi can't do it i shouldn't be a critic
I'm a fan of Bryce. I'm not a Panthers fan. However, how many weeks have I told you all on here that the Panthers don't have any gamebreakers? You don't have enough speed. The RB is not fast. The WRs are not fast, per se. Xavier is fast but can't catch. Get Bryce some help, and it's over.
Funny I am a Panthers fan ride or die, NOT a BY fan at all. But I cheer for him as he is key to our wins. It is what it is, Jesus Freak BY better ball out or I'm the first to hate on him.
@Amped4Life Because he's a Jesus Freak is why you don't like him? B/c he seems to be a good guy. Seems like a cool person. The God talk does getting annoying. And I'm a believer on Jesus myself. But I get annoyed w/ ppl who constantly mention God in every scenario. However, that's not a reason for me not to like someone. Bryce is going to be fine, as I said weeks ago. He's the former OVERALL #1 recruit. #1! He won the Heisman his 1st yr starting as a sophomore. He's big time. And his calm demeanor and character are going to carry him far unless he's injured. But he's the real deal. You no longer have to worry about that.
These guys said Chinn was a ball hawking safety year one 😂😂 Chinn was a hybrid LB year one. Tell me you don’t know ball without telling me you don’t know ball. Panthers RUclips just put anybody up there I see smh
Wallace, Jewels, and Jackson are trash as starters!! Wallace didn't look like he belonged on the field at all. Jackson was getting his eyes burnt out every game, and Jewels is a backup if anything
Hey guys, Jonathan Brooks cannot cut like he does. He is too big and there is too much stress on his knees every time he cuts. He will be back in a boot in no time. If he changes the way he runs then maybe he will be a viable option but as he is he is useless to the team.
Give us your WAY too early win total for the 2025 season! Let us know!
8 to 9 wins
Tired of hearing about Jeremy Chinn and how Evero couldn’t make him work in his system. Chinn finished 50th in ranking at the safety position. He’s a box safety/LB hybrid. It’s a decent starter but he’s not all world. Edge & S does need to get addressed this offseason.
9 dubs
8
Ima swerve bend that corner whoa!!!! 😂😂😂
It’s refreshing seeing the Panthers have some stability going from one season to the next.
It is strange that Panther fans have to consider not being fired after 1 year as stable haha.
But it is more stable than last year for sure
@@WerdUp13we have our qb and a hc and a gm, if that's not stability I don't know what is lol
@@DavisDoesFilm Traditionally when someone says that a pro organization is stable, they are not referring to one year of retaining what you mention.
If this thing implodes and Evero or someone else is fired mid season, QB goes down, Dan is fired for not filling out the team, etc would anyone call 1.5 - 2 years stable?
Definitely better than a mid season firing but, I think Panthers have a couple years before they can be labeled "stable".
@@WerdUp13 I see what your saying, I definitely am just overjoyed that we finally have a competent staff lmao
@@DavisDoesFilm if we can get to week 10 before fans start looking at draft prospects, that would be the cherry on top lol
Draft Defense, get an elite FA #1 receiver for Bryce. Outside of DJ Moore, we haven’t had a “elite” receiver since Smith.
Tired of everybody trashin 17. He had an overall nice rookie season. Hope he balls out next year.
I don’t think people realize how hurt he was this season. Growing pains as a rookie.
Yea besides, typically a WR take about 3 years before they really come into their own
He really did. Check the highlights 🤷🏼♂️
That used to be the case but now more and more we're seeing these receivers coming in the league bawling they're on a whole nother level then how it used to be @@MitchellWells-s9f
Once he gets those hands down I think he’ll be a high end number 2 wr
Keep in mind, if you fix the run defense, thats more oppurtunities to get interceptioms and sacks. Law of probability supports that fixing the run defense will also increase our turnover, primarily incerceptions, percentage
As well as offensive production
I'm gonna give XL some grace. Remember the first year or two and people were calling for Derrick Brown to be cut? Outside of his injury, he was THE best player on the team last season.
Definitely excited for Panthers next season. 2 solid WRS and all defense draft should be a playoff appearance.
Leggette will be the #1 yall never learn you just went through this with Bryce
I feel like for offense the most interesting part is the running back situation. Like do you keep Miles because he decided to play good for the last game? His contract to me feels overpaid for his performance. Brooks is a tragic situation but he is a rookie so you're looking to see him maybe appear at the very end of next season and stay healthy. But in the mean time we only have Chuba and Boone. I doubt they'll really do anything with Boone even tho his performance was pretty well, so in that sense I'm curious if they'll draft another running back or grab one from free agency. I'd like to see a speedster who can attack the edges and do some spin moves on folks. Also hope to have at least 8 wins next season, it really is up to the defense to win us games, Keep Pounding
Interception come from good pass rush so corners and safteys can have time to make plays
Yeah, a good pass rush means more tipped balls and rushed, errant throws from the QB. It makes a huge difference👍🏻
They did fire two defensive assistants yesterday, I saw a report that there was a third but not confirmed.
Three were let go. We recorded before the moves were announced.
Who did they fire
@@carolinapanthersbrandonherbert
The linebackers coach, secondary coach and the defensive quality control coach.
I miss Jeremy Chinn 😢. I was totally about to buy a 21 jersey
That Gelo song does indeed take it back to the Hot Boy$ Ca$h Money era...I'm a older millennial myself.
I really hope Abdul Carter/ Mason Graham/James Pearce falls to Carolina at 8...
If we rework some deals like moton and make sure we keep mike jackson and Keep JC on a 4 year deal with a huge sign on bonus so we save money and we have a much better team also we need to cut some players as well that gives us more cap space and we can trade the rams second pick for a WR like Jacoby Myers from the raiders or even Pickens from the steelers it's possible
Kurt Coleman
Need a true NT
Horn is a press man corner, it's a waste to have him playing cushion bail zone all the time
I hate how he gets stuck in the boundary. He’s not being maximized.
Chinn and Luvu ballin out in Washington 🤦♂️
8:27 Dan Chisena baby!!
The 3-4 can work but you need stout guys on the line and smart capable LBs. Then get them all to play together, as is with anything.
First thing we need is a hog molly nose tackle. Anything mid and your A gaps are wide open, hence the amount of yards teams have run on us.
@@PlayafromtheHimalayas I wish we could some how get Mason Graham in the draft he is a Hoss
I have a buddy of mine that's a Chiefs fan. He would beg to differ. Do you recall the Chiefs losing to the Pats in the Playoffs when Brady was still around to go to the Super Bowl? Pats just ran the ball on them all the time and the Chiefs couldn't stop anything. The 3-4 is not a defense that can stop the run consistently, especially Evero's. I'm against continuing to put up with it at this point. Especially since the NFL seems to be going back to a running league day by day.
@@jarrodmiller9213 He won't be there when we pick. We'll probably have to pick the Georgia DE that's from NC or the Penn State DE. Which I would prefer the Penn State DE.
@@DrJack-xn1rn The Bucs in our division run the 3-4 and have the 4th best run stopping defense. It's all about having the right personnel. Can't be consistent without that in any scheme.
I really don't like the decision to keep Evero. His resume as a DC isn't very good. In Denver, he took over the #3 scoring defense in the NFL and in his sole season as their coordinator took them to . . . 12th. He has now overseen two of the worst scoring defenses in Panthers history. This is the guy we are standing by? Why?
Seems like a great guy, no doubt. But he hasn't shown the ability build or turn around a defense, and that's something we do need. With all the staff turnover around the NFL, why did we not at least spend a few weeks evaluating our options? Could we have enticed Robert Saleh to come here? What about Mike Zimmer? Anyone who has built a high end defense in the last 10 years.
Good shit
XL gets to go through his first NFL off-season and I'm sure he'll put in the work to his hands right. I can see frantic improvements from him and Coker. Still would like to see another dawg WR though.
I am scared to move up in the draft based on what we gave up to do that in the past, but since we need another corner and a WR would it be worth trying to go up and get Travis Hunter at #3 pick who you could spot play at WR and give you a huge boost when needed and be a game changing playmaker corner?
If you Can get the defensive players you need and change the defensive scheme. 9-10 if not 6-8
My guess is the scheme does not allow the players to be play makers - will the scheme on defense attract defensive free agent talent? LUVU walked for a reason.
Evero doesn't even allow his corners to travel in the awful 3-4. It's a complete mess.
I think people overestimate him traveling with the receiver. A lot of defenses dont do this
What was Everos stats on other teams?
Quick little tidbit… if we won those 4 games you alluded to, the Bucs would’ve been 9-8 and we’d have been 9-8 as well. Idk how the tie breaker would’ve worked though.
Thought on this? Canales has experience coaching with Robert Saleh… why retain evero yet another year when he soon will probably be gone and we are starting over. Why not start over now and hire a former colleague and friend (and imo an awesome defensive coach) and that’s 1 year that will be progress towards the next season. Stability by keeping Evero? Just don’t see it… especially when we don’t have the guys we need, we aren’t using the guys we have right… just not a lot of things are working out and don’t see them working out while he is here. And OF they did… then he’s gone bad we start over. Feel that we need to start over th defense NOW. And work towards building something new. Especially when the guys HE used to coach and that he wanted, (ie the safeties) SUCK… bad plays and missed tackles all day long. Just what u witnessed and saw…
Maybe we'll get lucky, and some other team will want to hire him away from us as their head coach. Mainly from his track record before his time with the Panthers.
That being said, I don't see it happening. lol
Hey you know, this is certainly something i thought about… somebody pleeeeeease!!! 🙏🤣🤣 Quickly!
Cash money records taking over for the ‘99 and the 2000… keep pounding
What's up, Fresh it's our turn, baby
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XL will get better. We really need to draft defense. Maybe pick up a good pass catching tight end in free agency
I'm pretty sure the scheme is great in theory, but I think Evero is too rigid in his philosphies. He couldn't find a role for Chinn, and now he's using Wallace as a cover LB, although he's best when allowed to attack the LoS, because that's what his scheme calls for...
Granted ,we are terrible at getting to the Qb but sack % is greatly skewed because how often teams ran the ball on us.
So you’re telling me that we’re on track for 1.74% interceptions thrown percentage next year based on our improvement from 23 to 24…OOF
Yes they need to overhaul the Defense but we don't need trash from Penn state thanks but no thanks
Yall talking like he didn't have the Broncos defense hummin
Give me Nick Bolton and Chris Godwin this offseason and Abdul Carter or Jalon Walker at #8.
You're saying we had more strip sacks without our superstar edge rusher. And saved money using it to improve the OL? I'm fine with that in a building year.
10-13
Draft Morgan
Im starting to think we can trade the 8th pick for miles Garrett and mabe get some late round picks but I feel like Hendrickson may be on the market as well from the Bengals ad mabe we can get him and Garrett lol trade the 8th for Garrett and sign Hendrickson hell that would change the D line for sure give them both massive deals alot or it sign on bonus and use the draft for other holes sure we don't sign a big name WR but we can see who is in the UDFA class but if we look at what I'm saying we can get miles Garrett for that 8th pick and some late round pick the browns have 3 6th round picks take that get some depth at S and CB and OL
lol Step 1 for Morgan- don’t listen to media and just Bryce fans that are just going to want us to draft all WRs and oline so he can get better numbers and scapegoat the team bc they keep losing bc they spent all their quality resources on offense again. We are thin in resources and only have 1 top 55 pick (still owe bears our early 2nd) and we are bottom half of the league in available money in salary cap. We need to hit on defense to be competitive as a team
I don't like that we kept the DC. Feel like he really doesn't know how to get the most of the players he has. Just look at Chinn and Luvu.
I dont like people talking about athletes when can you go out thereafter catch or why you wasn't drafted do you know what the players injuries are? I've learnedifi can't do it i shouldn't be a critic
10-7.
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I'm a fan of Bryce. I'm not a Panthers fan. However, how many weeks have I told you all on here that the Panthers don't have any gamebreakers?
You don't have enough speed. The RB is not fast. The WRs are not fast, per se. Xavier is fast but can't catch. Get Bryce some help, and it's over.
Funny I am a Panthers fan ride or die, NOT a BY fan at all. But I cheer for him as he is key to our wins. It is what it is, Jesus Freak BY better ball out or I'm the first to hate on him.
@Amped4Life Because he's a Jesus Freak is why you don't like him? B/c he seems to be a good guy. Seems like a cool person. The God talk does getting annoying. And I'm a believer on Jesus myself. But I get annoyed w/ ppl who constantly mention God in every scenario. However, that's not a reason for me not to like someone.
Bryce is going to be fine, as I said weeks ago. He's the former OVERALL #1 recruit. #1! He won the Heisman his 1st yr starting as a sophomore. He's big time. And his calm demeanor and character are going to carry him far unless he's injured. But he's the real deal. You no longer have to worry about that.
These guys said Chinn was a ball hawking safety year one 😂😂 Chinn was a hybrid LB year one. Tell me you don’t know ball without telling me you don’t know ball. Panthers RUclips just put anybody up there I see smh
Wallace, Jewels, and Jackson are trash as starters!! Wallace didn't look like he belonged on the field at all. Jackson was getting his eyes burnt out every game, and Jewels is a backup if anything
Hey guys, Jonathan Brooks cannot cut like he does. He is too big and there is too much stress on his knees every time he cuts. He will be back in a boot in no time. If he changes the way he runs then maybe he will be a viable option but as he is he is useless to the team.