I stole a Luba... for science!
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2023
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I know it risks what you have setup in Luba but a real test would be to leave your phone at home, take Luba and then try to set it up at another location using a different phone and new account. Then see if your first phone pushes any notification to you. I believe this is the anti-theft procedure Mammotion has designed, or at least advertised.
Look at the guy across the street mowing his yard like the old days
What a loser! J/K
Luba sent Secret Service to your driveway 😂. Best ever
It was some guy with a boat I think he was trying to find my neighbor's house we share a driveway
Add an airtag to your Luba.
When using my Luba, Im sitting out in the garage keeping a watchful eye, and she spends every night, in my garage...
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Luba needs to get their push notifications fixed
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What push notifications
My real world Luba was stolen today. There is literally no way to know where it is located. I can't even find out the last time it was within the working boundary. Very disappointed there isn't something more that can be done to secure the device. It was working well, with a few glitches. Frustrating.
Oh no! Notify Mammotion right away with your serial number the next time it comes online they Should be able to tell you the GPS coordinates. This is the first one I've heard of being stolen I knew it was only a matter of time before a hooligan got sticky fingers. How big is your yard? Are you sure there's no way it's not got itself trapped and hidden somewhere? I only say that because I lost mine for a few hours once and I found it under a trailer
@@Crazypostman I have a big yard (mowing around 1 acre) but have looked everywhere. I think some punk kids grabbed it. I live in a remote corner of a neighborhood on a road that get very little traffic. I sent Mammotion an email tonight with my serial number. Hoping they can help do something. I pulled my RTK unit into my garage so the thieves can’t come steal it.
I will be adding an airtag to mine (glued inside the shell). If it gets stolen, at least I'll be able to know where it is until the thief figures out that there is an airtag inside the device.
I think the missing notification would've been sent to your phone at the time of theft, but it was in airplane mode?
If you had put in a GSM sim card, you'd be tracking it right now.
I've just ordered one, I intend to put a dymo tape (or similar) message on it that it won't work outside my yard. and add an airtag.
GSM sim card
Luba 1 does not have SIM support
@@jeancpt the 1 doesn't take a sim card, but does do a great job of mowing. I put the tag inside a tyre.
For my WORX and Husqvarna RLMs, I added Airtags for extra protection. I am planning to do the same for my Luba, although it will be hard since it has no immediately accessible compartments.
Be aware that Airtags are easily detectable with either an Apple device or the Android app. I know thieves are mostly not that smart, but some actually are smart enough to scan for them. Better than nothing, but you could end up very disappointed.
I think some punk kids nabbed my Luba. Wish I would have stuck an AirTag on it somewhere to get some sort of reference point for where it was headed.
I added apple tag inside one of the wheels
Great idea!
GSM sim card
Love your site. A quick question about zones. When two zones are side by side do they share the same boundary or must you overlap when you make your second zone? If you overlap Does this effect the mower pattern?
Yes the mowing pattern is affected by neighboring zones. This has been discussed in forums, I think Mammotion is aware of two zones being mowed together that people want the lines to just be continuous but it hasn't been implemented yet.
The best thing is you can simply force reset luba and register it completely new without any problems under a new email (had to do that). (Please don't steal my luba) 😂
How did you register it under a new email? I cannot do that with mine
The unusual movement is turning it over on it's side.
Alarm would not help you when you can take out the key.
🤔 I'm going to have to test my Husqvarna... It's supposedly has an alarm but I've never heard it in 5 years It also has a power switch that should easily defeat the alarm lol
Without unbinding the original account LUBA won't work for someone else. There is no alarm.
No notifications because you had your phone in the airplane mode
It's getting around that these have zero security. It's only matter of time when they get stolen imo not if but when.
It’s not a cheap toy. It should have gps tracking on it even if it is power off you will be able to track it. Just push notifications won’t do anything.
Yea, I don't own one yet but I plan to buy state farm insurance for mine which covers theft when I do get one... sucks about no alarm or anything.. great video thank you
It has a slot in the back for a SIM card but I haven't heard anything about that getting added
@@Crazypostman a lot of unknowns, Luba's full of secrets 😲
First thing I did before I bought my own Luba was checked with my insurance man about if it gets stolen...Homeowners Insurance covers it.
@@lehighliving8980 My cheap 🫏 has like a $2,000 deductible wouldn't do me no good 😂
@@lehighliving8980 Smart move
Why not try leaving your phone at home and active when you take it and see if it alerted you?
I don't live here, so 99% of the time I wouldn't be around. It would have to work without me being in Bluetooth range anyway. Of course if I was watching the map live while it was stolen it it would show a lift notification.
Try it again with your phone on and at your house.
I could do a part two This was kind of fun 😁
@Crazypostman That would be awesome. Thanks for being a source of info for everyone considering getting a Luba.
I would expect you to get an alert if your phone is in airplane mode. But is definitely a concern that you can't find it when you turn your phone back to normal
It shuts down on it's own.
I think a better test would have been leaving your phone active in the house. But I think that at most you'll have the timestamp of when it was stolen by seeing the lift sensor alert.
The lack of anti-theft is probably one of the biggest warts of luba, which is such a shame since IMO it is a great at mowing. That and the lack of an easily replaceable battery IMO are the things I dislike most about Luba.
I could try doing this. The only thing is I would have to leave a screen recording going but the luba app will not keep the screen on I'll have to see if I can talk my mom into sitting there and keeping the screen awake 😂
@@Crazypostman With your phone in Airplane Mode, you'd never get any notifications if there were any.
@@racylaserjet I didn't get any notices when I logged into the app afterwards, so you're saying the theft notices only come in live and there's no way to look up after the fact? I can test it this way but I'm pretty sure there's no push notifications
@@Crazypostman Dunno. What I am saying is if Luba had the best security in the world with real time notifications you'd never have gotten them anyways. You getting push notifications after the fact would still have been that. There's a slot for a SIM card on them. I wonder what future use that is for. Theft protection maybe?
@@Crazypostman It honestly just occured to me that I don't know if mammotion's app sends your phone notifications about luba's history in real time as they happen, or if the app queries the luba to send you its history of recent events? If it does attempt to send in real time, there's obviously no system in place to catch undelivered messages as evidenced by your experiment.
You have to put the key back in and turn it on.
I am still going to put AirTag in the housing. It might give me enough time to track it. If it is going to be Meth head thief then all they going to worried about is quickly selling it. If its kids they maybe doing it to just do it. Very doubtful that the thief is going to take apart the Luba at your residence to search and remove the AirTag before quickly driving away. That would defeat being stealthy and quick.
Do you think luba 1 will be able to do patterns like luba 2 with some updates?
Technically it's possible, we'll just have to wait and see if they update it to do that
Wow, that is a very good test!
no surprise there is no anti theft system built in the Luba. We all know there isn't.
However to use the stolen Luba the thief needs an RTK and needs to register and needs a charging station. The Luba name is unique so maybe Mammotion could tell if the same Luba reconnects to MM cloud? not sure. But as the thief needs an RTK AND a charging station - where is he getting this from? you can't purchase them individually at the moment. So I'd say a stolen Luba is useless unless the thief has already another Luba set up with RTK and needs to share the existing charging station. Not sure if that works - might do. Obviously that doesn't prevent someone from stealing it - the thief might just not know that Luba will not work for him.
I toy with the idea of adding a tracker to my Luba though. my front yard is quite open and it would be easy to quickly pick him up.
Try again, but just turn off Bluetooth. See if you get notified when your WiFi and cell service is turned on. I'm thinking you'd get a notification in real time.
This is my thought. Better yet, let someone else (with no phone registered to Luba) steal the luba with your phone far away from the whole situation. See if you get alerts.
I can just leave my phone behind with a screen recording going and still be the thief... Should I leave The application open on map mode or just leave my phone there and see if I get a push notification
Close the app to mimick a real situation
@@kurelgyer Agreed, leave it on your home screen with no app loaded.
Don't know if this helps or not but when I got to demo a Lube 5000 several weeks ago and did the set up, when I got to the part about entering my wifi password it told me that it wouldn't connect because the Luba was "bound to a different network". The lawn guy had to contact the first guy he let demo it and he "unbound" the Luba thru the app. Since I entered my wifi password even though Luba blocked it...I don't know if the first guy received any type of notification via my wifi?
🤔 It would have been interesting if we knew if he got a notification. Do you still have that luba in your app? You should watch it closely to see where it appears next 😂
@@Crazypostman ...When the lawn guy picked up his demo I "unbound" his Luba so the next guy didn't have an issue, so it's gone from the app...It was a learning experience for both of us. He is a Husqvarna Dealer and only bought the Luba 5000 to experiment on lawns the Husqvarna couldn't handle. He was very impressed when I gave him the 2 thumbs up on performance. Also gave him tips I learned about splitting zones so the Luba would clean up "no-go" areas.
@@lehighliving8980 I guess that would work if you have spare zones I'm maxed out at 10 so I can't split anything 😞
Or have one of your friends take Luba and see if it would notify you now that is a good test
maybe that you should've tried to zoom out on the map to see if the last location was out of current map?
I did try hitting the little location button on the right side that's supposed to snap you to Luba that did nothing. There's no way I could have zoomed out far enough to find it lol. It only lets you zoom out so far and I would have had to moved scrolled over a mile to the southwest I'm not sure lubas world is that big in the app
Maybe you will get a ransom note.
Any updates with this??
No, This is how it is with Luba one... If you want protection you would have to hide your own air tag on it somewhere
Luba 2 has SIM card support but we've yet to see how their loss prevention tracking is going to work
@@Crazypostman ok thanks
Agreed, the Luba really doesn't provide much security from theft. If I was really concerned though... I would use what I use on my dogs... the tractive Waterproof GPS Tracker. It cost $35 plus I paid another $70 for two years of service. I would attach it in way that difficult for a thief to take off and the software for this device allows me to set area boundaries so I would get alerts if the Luba left those boundaries. It also does a really good job of showing me on a map where it is and how far away it is and the direction, I need to head to locate it. Because I live in a very rural area... sometimes one of my dogs does escapes the backyard and wanders for miles... this device has saved me many hours wandering the woods looking for her! I normally get two weeks of battery charge on this device before it needs re-charging. Recharging it would be the only real hassle.
Yes I have done something similar with a Fi collar
Thats a great price! Can you provide a link to the tracker?
@@JohnSmith-lz9dv This looks like what the other person was suggesting. amzn.to/3pBQhFY
@@JohnSmith-lz9dv This is the one I use amzn.to/3O4ATLS
I looked into the tractive It seems the battery life last less than a week! Is that true? That would make pain in the butt to use for sure. The fi collar last for several months before I get a little battery warning
This is a negative point for the Luba. My 315x husky will scream like a banshee if just turned off with out the pin being put in first. Found this out the hard way 😂
Mine was stolen within 3 weeks of owning, no help from support, they also wont take returns of the items you no longer need for a partial refund. you're just out 100%...Do not recommend.
Hey Crazy, I think I finally found someone willing to sell me a new OG 5000 Luba! (in Germany).
I hope it isn't someone who wasn't just "playing" a thief though :)
Maybe you could preemptively email Mammotion and make sure the serial number is clear to be activated. ( Not reported stolen)
@@Crazypostman "email mammotion" ... that's a good one.
Anyway, this guy has only positive reviews on that websites where he sells stuff, so I hope everything will be ok. Luba is supposedly also not even unboxed and still in the original package. We shall see, I guess.
If it comes, the next challenge will be taking it with me on a 1600km jouerney (to Albania) and only THEN I can see if it works, lol.
@@sHuRuLuNito Albania?!? There it will be stolen immediately! 🤣🤪
i had to get a new power key for my luba one of the neighbor kids thought it was funny to just yoink only the power key like wth
Pushing the buttons don't inspire a lot of confidence in me. I feel like the button is kind of fragile
@@Crazypostman pushing a button??? what are you on about i had the orange power key stolen from mine and my comment had nothing to do with pushing a button
@@chaos6313 ahh I was referring to the power button on top, pushing it I feel like it's just going to push into the shell of Luba sometimes. But it hasn't failed yet
Here is what Luba told me about what would happen if it is stolen. I understand your concern about ensuring the safety and security of your LUBA to prevent theft.
Yes, the Luba lawnmower has an inbuilt GPS Anti-Theft feature. This feature uses GPS technology to track the lawnmower's location at all times. If the lawnmower moves outside of a designated area, you will receive alerts on your smartphone or computer. This can help deter theft and aid in the recovery of the lawnmower. Even if someone steals it and realizes they can't use it, you will still have a way to track its location and potentially retrieve it
Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns, we're more than happy to help. Have a great day and keep safe always!
Regards,
Mammotion Team
That is very disingenuous.... Yes it has GPS, Yes you can see on your phone where Luba is When it's around your house. The minute it leaves your Wi-Fi coverage area there is no way to locate Luba.
That's what I thought from watching your video. I would like to get one but I'm afraid of it getting stolen. I wonder what they would say if you contacted them and tell them it doesn't work since you have one. Thank you for the response, I find your videos very helpful @@Crazypostman
Why not tuck in a couple of cheap trackers.
I do
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I added a Trak 4 GPS to my Luba.
I'll look into that one I stuck a Fi collar in mine
you put your phone in airplane mode.....if you didn't wouldn't you have gotten a push notification when luba was picked up???
I'm going to redo this test in a few days leave the phone completely on at the house while I steal it and see if any notifications come
Thanks for showing this test. Unfortunately, It turned out just as I thought. Also loved the background mystery music while you were perpetrating your theft. Our neighborhood has a few other robotic mowers that are not a Luba. I’ll have to ask those neighbors how their device handles theft attempts.
I also have a Husqvarna automower Maybe I'll try to steal it and see what happens
I even have a robomower I could test that one too but I'd have to pull it out of mothballs
This makes me sad and mad at the same time. There should be levels of alarm on it like trigger a noisy alarm if you pick it up and the phone is not in range, this should be user setable. there needs to be at least an option for a 4g module to track it/controll it without wifi. i normally hate when stuff upload stuff to the cloud but in this case it would be a good thing as it could report last position/where it's at when it gets power. I don't think i'll recomend this to my father in law, was looking good otherwise. Also, and i understand that you don't want to open it but it would not surprise me if by open it up you could factory reset it and register it again or something like that. Thanks for testing this, it's pretty important to know these things.
Also, it's not uncommon for ppl to steal devices like this and just sell them for parts..
True
Mammotion doesn't say there is anti theft.
This is straight from their web page, The very first words are anti-theft system 😂
Anti-theft System: The app will sound an alarm to notity users when there is unusual movement.
As far as I know this is not true there is no alarm for unusual movement
I do see in the PDF manual it says on the list of specs...anti-theft ..it says yes..for all three models...
But this is written by some techs in Hong Kong..so their idea of anti-theft may be different than ours.
If Luba is willing to make false advertising claims that they offer an Ani Theft feature, what else are they lying about?
Shut up
Tractive gps.... And done
Big Chinese surprise. You get what ya pay for. Why not take it all and reset?
stupid test. you donˋt even understand what mammotion meant with reconnect network. it reconnects not to your network, but to the internet (cloud). thus will happen every time someone tries to setup the stolen luba.