Lol why everybody making it seem like DeVante said something so cruel? First off, this is the MUSIC industry, people are going to throw shade whether anybody likes or not. Secondly, it's his opinion and obviously he's going to assume (if he was talking about Shai) that this particular group is trying to be like them because of some of the similar wardrobe, looks & vocals. My goodness people.. There were plenty of artist who threw even more shade at other artists in this business, Prince, Patti & Mariah Carey for example. He didn't say anything crazy, Shai still survived after this, so please save it. Jodeci is legendary, there will never be another and Shai will always be one of the most outstanding groups from the 90s. Both are AMAZING groups! Move along!
Lol its been said many times that Devante couldn't stand Garflied in particular(jealously maybe lol) so it was more than just Devante throwing harmless shade 😂. Lol and I love jodeci but why knock down another black group?
he did it because at the time jodeci was touring with SWV and K Ci was dating lelee and Mary and coco tried to Holla at devante bit he was playing so she dated Garfield and was mad
@sotannaa gawp Wow, I didn't know this!😨 Boy, alot of "light skinned" dudes be the MOST arrogant because of their VANITY, regarding their looks...just sad and very UNATTRACTIVE as well! 😰😟👎
@90’s Fanatic💎 Yeah, I know it's not all of them, that's why I said it be "a lot" not "all." As far as DeVante dating someone else at the time goes, I couldn't tell because it seem as though she wasn't seen or known of. Furthermore, I do believe that DeVante was and probably still is a "Playa." He (DeVante) was/is very gifted no doubt about that. If DeVante was truly seeing and dating someone (seriously) back then and Coko knew he had a girlfriend, then yes, in fact she is definitely wrong for wanting to get with him. However, if not then, Coko was just probably having "wishful thinking" (which is harmless) of wanting and hoping to get with DeVante verses actually being his girl. Overall, I totally understand where you are coming from and somewhat agree and disagree with your sentiments. No harm/malice intended on my end.🤔🤗💯
@90’s Fanatic💎 Yes, to all of this and more!💖💖 You are absolutely right, DeVante and Coko would of been so dope together both from a musical and possibly, general perspective!😊🌟💥💯
This was petty lol, but he sort of dissed them again along with other r&b groups in a vibe interview in 1995. D definitely felt like they were superior to most of their genre peers back then.
Also not being humble isn't cool. All the groups from the 90's were great in their own way. I see they don't talk that mess about Boys2men who was greater then them.
Maybe he thought that bc he had everything they needed to record an album producers, vocals, writers and someone to play instruments but that’s a Libra for ya
Yo DeVanté Swing was upset because a girl he had feelings for was dating Carl Martin, the lead singer of Shai. This reportedly caused tension between DeVanté and Carl, which spilled over into the larger feud between the two groups. Yes, there was a reported feud between Jodeci and Shai....Shai was often compared to Jodeci due to their similar sound and style, which led to tension between the two groups. Jodeci felt that Shai was trying to emulate their image and sound, and saw them as copycats. In particular, K-Ci and JoJo felt that Shai's lead singer, Carl Martin, was mimicking their vocal style and mannerisms. The tension between the groups led to some public dissing and shade-throwing in interviews (like this one). However, over time, the feud seemed to die down, and both groups continued to make music and perform. Despite the brief rivalry, both Jodeci and Shai have spoken highly of each other's talent and contributions to the R&B genre. The feud is now largely seen as a relic of the competitive nature of the music industry in the 1990s.
Let’s all be real here both Davante & Dalvin aren’t singers they both the eye candy of Jodeci ..they both the harmony of the group hence back up .. I know this for a fact because I was just at one of those shows that I always speculated, but when I got to see it first hand for sure Casey and JoJo are main singers of that band. The show I saw didn’t have Jo Jo even there and KC basically held that whole show. I mean it was clear that Devante didn’t wanna be there at all and Dalvin did his best but really it was all KC. (and I was in love with Devante just like the rest of these girls in the 90’s.. but is what it is 🤷🏼♀️)
He wasn't jealous of their relationship. Coco had a crush on De before she dated Garfield. I believe around this time De was rumor dating either with Sherry Carter (one of the BET host) or Kim Porter.
Shai was a great group, they didn't deserve to get dissed here. Darnell had his own voice, he wasn't trying to be like JoJo, hell he may have had more range than Jo. Jodeci are legends but Shai was great too! DeVante dissed Silk hard too, which was completely wrong!
Surprisingly Devante & Jodeci had mutual respect for Boyz 2 Men. Probably cause they came out around same time. But he definitely thought groups like Shai & Silk were copycats.
@@Prince-233 I actually like shai and silk they would have had a mega hit if they would have collab together or even with the group "No Question" that would have been a smash hit
@@msve3730 Agreed, I love those groups as well. Especially compared to this new rap r&b style now. The 90s music hit different, I miss that whole black culture era.
@@Prince-233 🥺 Same here. According to them R&B is completely gone. No matter how much Dru Hill go on tour Jodeci go on tour and many great other there probably will never be a second coming of R&B like that era. Trey songs ain't not damn R&b
The are right Shai is in a great league of their own and so was Jodeci so why someone gotta be like some one else Devante? Say what you want but Shai had a harmony out of this atmosphere them boys did not get the credit they deserved I love Jodeci and Shai but to compare the two is crazy the cd's were nothing alike but Devante back then was more beauty than brains maybe he says that because it was four members, just listen to his break down of height lol!
If this is true, that is incredibly lame of DeVante. These two groups are completely different with two completely different sounds and musical styles. They're nothing alike. And guess what, I bought both their albums. Like seriously, those brothers were a harmonizing quartet from Howard University with a hit acapella record. Jodeci sang bump n grind R&B. How the fuck were they trying to be like Jodeci? Boy bye, just stop.
I love shai but they ain't on Jodeci’s level let's be real Jodeci definitely inspired so many other rnb groups 💯 especially dru hill I'm pretty sure they definitely in a way imitate some of their style tbh
Hahaha man everytime i see this video i think about that 1 Martin episode when he was singing this song,on the varnell hill show
Lol why everybody making it seem like DeVante said something so cruel? First off, this is the MUSIC industry, people are going to throw shade whether anybody likes or not. Secondly, it's his opinion and obviously he's going to assume (if he was talking about Shai) that this particular group is trying to be like them because of some of the similar wardrobe, looks & vocals. My goodness people.. There were plenty of artist who threw even more shade at other artists in this business, Prince, Patti & Mariah Carey for example. He didn't say anything crazy, Shai still survived after this, so please save it. Jodeci is legendary, there will never be another and Shai will always be one of the most outstanding groups from the 90s. Both are AMAZING groups! Move along!
Shai was a one hit wonder they ain't no damn jodeci 😂😭😭✌✌
One hit wonder? Naw.. On their first CD alone they had three hits. Baby I'm yours if I ever fall in love again and comforter.
+Frederick Minniefield well i just kno fall in love.
Lol its been said many times that Devante couldn't stand Garflied in particular(jealously maybe lol) so it was more than just Devante throwing harmless shade 😂. Lol and I love jodeci but why knock down another black group?
@@ImTheMan78 you forgot my fav one " SEXUAL " Remixed from RIGHT BACK AT' CHA LP.
he did it because at the time jodeci was touring with SWV and K Ci was dating lelee and Mary and coco tried to Holla at devante bit he was playing so she dated Garfield and was mad
sotannaa gwap I always thought that Coko was into Dalvin not Devante?
@sotannaa gawp Wow, I didn't know this!😨 Boy, alot of "light skinned" dudes be the MOST arrogant because of their VANITY, regarding their looks...just sad and very UNATTRACTIVE as well! 😰😟👎
@90’s Fanatic💎 Yeah, I know it's not all of them, that's why I said it be "a lot" not "all." As far as DeVante dating someone else at the time goes, I couldn't tell because it seem as though she wasn't seen or known of. Furthermore, I do believe that DeVante was and probably still is a "Playa." He (DeVante) was/is very gifted no doubt about that. If DeVante was truly seeing and dating someone (seriously) back then and Coko knew he had a girlfriend, then yes, in fact she is definitely wrong for wanting to get with him. However, if not then, Coko was just probably having "wishful thinking" (which is harmless) of wanting and hoping to get with DeVante verses actually being his girl. Overall, I totally understand where you are coming from and somewhat agree and disagree with your sentiments. No harm/malice intended on my end.🤔🤗💯
@90’s Fanatic💎 Yes, to all of this and more!💖💖 You are absolutely right, DeVante and Coko would of been so dope together both from a musical and possibly, general perspective!😊🌟💥💯
@90’s Fanatic💎 Exactly, me too!😁
I dont see how shai was trying to be like them if anyone it would be druhill but they were inspired by jodeci though
Yes..Sisqo sounded alot like K-ci back in the day
I agree with you 100 percent
Dru hill wasn’t out at this time this 1992/93.
Dru Hill wasn’t even out yet at this time. Definitely was talking about Shai.
@@ImTheMan78Sisqo actually worked overtime to be the next Kci😂😂
Jojo: "I don't rememberrrrr"😂
So r and b groups was beefing lol
Miss B.A.D 😂😂😅😅💀💀😭😭
This was petty lol, but he sort of dissed them again along with other r&b groups in a vibe interview in 1995. D definitely felt like they were superior to most of their genre peers back then.
The thing is Shai had all 4 members that could sing not just 2.
Also not being humble isn't cool. All the groups from the 90's were great in their own way. I see they don't talk that mess about Boys2men who was greater then them.
Maybe he thought that bc he had everything they needed to record an album producers, vocals, writers and someone to play instruments but that’s a Libra for ya
Osa thecoolest definitely a Libra lol
ok. that wasn't right Devante.
one even trying to be you Mr.dalvin...
Arkay 😂😂😅😅💀💀😭😭
I was like Devante why you trying to play your lil brother 😩 " i guess you the only left"
Mr Dalvin was lowkey the finest member of the group though 😂
Jamesharay Ray girl not even lowkey
All I gotta say is that y’all better lay up off D cause he literally didn’t say anything wrong here. Y’all wack for thinking he wack...BYE
u wack
You wack
Yo DeVanté Swing was upset because a girl he had feelings for was dating Carl Martin, the lead singer of Shai. This reportedly caused tension between DeVanté and Carl, which spilled over into the larger feud between the two groups.
Yes, there was a reported feud between Jodeci and Shai....Shai was often compared to Jodeci due to their similar sound and style, which led to tension between the two groups.
Jodeci felt that Shai was trying to emulate their image and sound, and saw them as copycats. In particular, K-Ci and JoJo felt that Shai's lead singer, Carl Martin, was mimicking their vocal style and mannerisms.
The tension between the groups led to some public dissing and shade-throwing in interviews (like this one). However, over time, the feud seemed to die down, and both groups continued to make music and perform.
Despite the brief rivalry, both Jodeci and Shai have spoken highly of each other's talent and contributions to the R&B genre. The feud is now largely seen as a relic of the competitive nature of the music industry in the 1990s.
Some of y’all mad over an old ass footage I'm pretty sho they are friends by now like damn ❤😂
Remember Shai was not only pretty faces and good vocals. They were and are intelligent boys who met at Howard uni. Come Devon te, yiu disappoint me.
0:36 Jojo lol
That MJ "Who is it" snippet
Let’s all be real here both Davante & Dalvin aren’t singers they both the eye candy of Jodeci ..they both the harmony of the group hence back up .. I know this for a fact because I was just at one of those shows that I always speculated, but when I got to see it first hand for sure Casey and JoJo are main singers of that band. The show I saw didn’t have Jo Jo even there and KC basically held that whole show. I mean it was clear that Devante didn’t wanna be there at all and Dalvin did his best but really it was all KC.
(and I was in love with Devante just like the rest of these girls in the 90’s.. but is what it is 🤷🏼♀️)
Garfield will sing the dookie out of all jodeci.
He’s average at best and he’s ok live
@@sweeetzz I still think this was lame half of them r&b guy's had the same style I never seen the comparisons
@@NorthPhilly-zr7xcno tf they didn't jodeci definitely inspired a lot of other rnb groups especially dru hill talking some about lame 😂
Please stop it
This was definitely about Dru hill…had to be 😂😂
Dru Hill came out in 96.Jodeci broke up in late 95
So he was Jealous of Coko and Garfield’s relationship lol even with all the women and groupies throwing it at him endlessly??
Interesting 🤔
Indecisive libra
wait D liked Coco???
@Brownskinned Girl🌻🌻 yes
He wasn't jealous of their relationship. Coco had a crush on De before she dated Garfield. I believe around this time De was rumor dating either with Sherry Carter (one of the BET host) or Kim Porter.
Wait how do you know this
Shai was a great group, they didn't deserve to get dissed here. Darnell had his own voice, he wasn't trying to be like JoJo, hell he may have had more range than Jo. Jodeci are legends but Shai was great too! DeVante dissed Silk hard too, which was completely wrong!
@Shawn P. Not better than Darnell's.
I mean , why try when JoJo only had the voice and Darnell had the voice and the looks so not competition. I love jodeci but Darnell is baby 😍
When did he diss Silk
@@YssMoneyGang they didn't diss silk
I never heard of Devante dissing Silk but I know Devante, Kci n Jojo dissed Trey Songs
No I thought they were coming at Boys II Men because most interviews they would ask them what they think of Boys II Men
Surprisingly Devante & Jodeci had mutual respect for Boyz 2 Men. Probably cause they came out around same time. But he definitely thought groups like Shai & Silk were copycats.
@@Prince-233 I actually like shai and silk they would have had a mega hit if they would have collab together or even with the group "No Question" that would have been a smash hit
@@msve3730 Agreed, I love those groups as well. Especially compared to this new rap r&b style now. The 90s music hit different, I miss that whole black culture era.
@@Prince-233 🥺 Same here. According to them R&B is completely gone. No matter how much Dru Hill go on tour Jodeci go on tour and many great other there probably will never be a second coming of R&B like that era. Trey songs ain't not damn R&b
@@msve3730 Trey Songz ain't no damn R&B drops Mic lol 💀
When R&B groups have beef and one doesn't know about it.
it was no social media then
I thought this was funny
The are right Shai is in a great league of their own and so was Jodeci so why someone gotta be like some one else Devante? Say what you want but Shai had a harmony out of this atmosphere them boys did not get the credit they deserved I love Jodeci and Shai but to compare the two is crazy the cd's were nothing alike but Devante back then was more beauty than brains maybe he says that because it was four members, just listen to his break down of height lol!
Devante was a musical genius how he didn't have brains ? He played 11 instruments and could set up harmonies just by listening to someone sing.
amirracurls101 more beauty than brains? Lol have you looked up his credits?
@@sandydavis2563 dude got so much credit that somebody need to give him his credit
@@2288bigman it sounds like 100 people in the background singing so he was pretty smart. he knew
Shai sang good but their harmony was all over the place and can’t be compared to Jodeci’s harmony
If this is true, that is incredibly lame of DeVante. These two groups are completely different with two completely different sounds and musical styles. They're nothing alike. And guess what, I bought both their albums. Like seriously, those brothers were a harmonizing quartet from Howard University with a hit acapella record. Jodeci sang bump n grind R&B. How the fuck were they trying to be like Jodeci? Boy bye, just stop.
That is real
I love shai but they ain't on Jodeci’s level let's be real Jodeci definitely inspired so many other rnb groups 💯 especially dru hill I'm pretty sure they definitely in a way imitate some of their style tbh
😂😂😭😭😂😂😂
Huh! Really, Don't see it