I learned something: RCinpower 1002 22,000 kv vs Newbeedrone 1102 19,000 kv
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2022
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I've got the NBD flow 1102 as well on my 2.5" and I'm loving it, it's what I expected to fly after I got it tuned.
I love GnB batts...theyre super cheap but they always seem to out perform a lot of the more expensive brands. Ive been using their HV 1s packs for about 2 years now. I like the nitro nectars more but theyre only 300mah and 10 bucks a pop last i looked
very interesting as always, all your tests are so helpful, thanks! and I'm really looking forward to the tests on different sizes of frames (btw, may I suggest you get some sort of wind protection for your microphone? I'm not a native english speaker, sometimes it's hard to understand with all that wind noise. maybe just place it behind a box or something to shield it a bit. thanks again!)
Yes we were having some weather rolling through but I wanted to get this recorded before going out of town for the week.
Thanks for the interesting vids with these different motors and prop setups. I have a bunch of Betafpv 1102 18000kv and thought 2 inch was about as big as they can go but now I'm totally going to try them on 65mm props. I have some 13500kv from an older hx100se, think 2 inch 2s can handle?
I like the size on that Warpig frame. I prefer a wider frame myself for any super light, floaty toothpicks. That said, it looks like it would have resonance issues. You said you were cutting frames for comparison. are you staying with that design for comparison purposes, or are you going for something stiffer? If they're going to be stiffer, are you going to cut one in the Warpig's size to make the comparisons usable?
I run T motor 1103 on my 65mm with gemfan bi’s running on 2s and is a absolute bullet while still being one of the most locked in quads I have. Running on savage bee frame with runcam dvr board in there
Holy windy!
I really like the gnb 550 non-hv. 14.4g
Have you ever tried the 1103 8500kv new toka mamba motor looking for a setup have some their real notche have betaflight 4.3 Kabab 115 toothpick fr 2mm cl racing fc 32bit F7 board 2s with 2015 gemfan on 2s any suggestions on prop sel
The wires will unsolder from the motor. You can put new ones
Do the short wired HGLRC motors have PCBs under that heatshrink where the wires connect? It looks like it. If so, it would be an (unnecessary if they had the wires just a tad longer, sure) easy fix with a soldering iron. I see more and more companies having their motor wires connected to PCBs and it's awesome. no more heatshrink blobs mid-wire because you had to lenghten them when switching them over to a different frame.
I don’t see a PCB but haven’t stripped the heat shrink.
I have a fettec 15a aio, 1202.5 11500kv, Fpvcycle Babytooth frame and 1s 500mah... What setup would you recommend in terms of Prop size and Battery voltage (soldering the 1s 500mah in series for 2s power?)
To be more specific: i have 2 bladed 3018, 3 bladed 2512, and 3 bladed 2023 gemfan props. Which give the best handling and controll with those motors and 1-2s? AUWs propably a bit higher then what you are used to
HQ props makes 2 styles of very good 65mm. One looks like the Gemfans, but balanced. The other is a T motor style hub like those Emax Avia props.
19000KV is for 31mm props. if you're spinning 51mm/2", 65mm/2.5", or even 3" on 19000 KV motors, they aren't going to work well. it's like starting a car in fifth gear. You would need a much bigger motor to have enough torque to change the speed on the prop. I run 13000kv on 1102 with 65mm props.
This information isn’t very true. The HQ press on lack thrust and efficiency and the T65 lack are often very poorly balanced. Motor torque is a function of the magnet strength, air gap, and stator iron content, not KV. The KV is relevant in terms or efficiency for a given torque. The high KV motor will spin up just fine compared to a low KV, there’s just an efficiency penalty. Matching KV to a particular prop size is not as direct as indicated since the torque and motor geometry will play an equally large role in how fast a motor can spin a prop.
@@Quad66 Well, your information isn't particularly true. My group is testing a 65mm propped drone for production, and the HQ props in testing have all been fine. the press-on have less thrust because they are low pitch. We haven't seen an unbalanced 3 hole yet. While your theory on motor torque would be correct if a "perfect" power supply was used, in practice, A higher KV motor needs more current for the same thrust. That Higher current draw comes up against the resistance of the battery and the ESC, causing voltage sag, and less torque to be made, while producing a more heat, and less efficiency. So in the real world, when powered from a 1s drone battery, if you run too high of a KV, you make less torque.
@@Quad66 That's not how that works. You have a piece of correct information that you are misapplying to the situation. The short answer is that a stupidly high KV motor being fed through a tiny battery and spinning a prop that is way to big for it will perform like crap compared to the same size motor at a better matched KV for the prop. The long answer is... I really need to make a video on this. there are a lot of factors involved. Chris Rosser covers some of it, but it's worth a deep dive with demonstrations.
I love those flywoo 1203 so much.
Otherwise the happymodel 1102 13500kv motors on GF 2040 props are awesome on a smaller 2" build.
I got some of these 1002 rcinpower motors and built it on a NBD mosquito frame with AZI 40mm props. No bad, but honestly I prefer the slightly bigger 1S builds.
By the way I'm telling you again to cut some HQPROP 63mmx6 props down to bi blade. There you have your loved 2.5" props that you are looking for. At least as colse as you can get on the market right now.
I literally own and tested every prop from 1.6" to 3" props on the market.
I tried cutting down the HQ 63x6 and didn’t get great results. I had quite a bit of vibration. I probably could have been more careful cutting and trimming things down but I go through props too fast to put a ton of effort into prepping a prop.
i want to make one like that! i live in the Netherlands. Do you have a link for this frame?
Here are all his frames. I have several of them in various sizes and they’re really nice armattanproductions.com/pages/shop_product_list/4205
That’s poison ! 😅
odd i cant speak for the beta fpv 18000kv but the 1102 22000kv betafpv motors rip dude and i own the 1003 rcing powers and flow motors aswell now durability vs durability i cant really say but as for raw performance the betafpv 1102 22000kv def rip my 75mm acts almost like my 5 inch with them qnd my savagebee frame woth 3 8nch gemfan triblades rips an handles very well . i prefer the rcing power 1003 due to the cosmetics and mountong options but dont sleep on those betafpv motors some of then wre actually nice do you fly 1s packs at all on your micro toothpicks or whats your prefered ?
Do you fly the 1102 22,000k with the gemfan 2015 biblades?
Thank you!
Any change in flight duration with the larger war pig? I'm on 19000kv. BTW I just broke the ceramic antenna with the same canopy...
Last i used 2.5 Avan on 1103. Less top end for sure but I like the reactivity...
No notable change in flight time with the longer arms.
Could I put these on my Newbeedrone Mosquito XL 2s?
These are both high kv 1S options, you would want lower kv for 2S.
@@Quad66 what's the highest kv motor I could go with on my setup?
@@cold-frontin_penguin7902 the only way to find out is to play will it smoke