Everything Wrong with Command and Conquer Generals' Vehicle Design

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  • Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024

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  • @saidag
    @saidag 4 года назад +782

    US Dozer: "I can build anywhere"
    Also US Dozer: "Sorry, I can't build there"

  • @reaperox_
    @reaperox_ 4 года назад +728

    The insides of most tractors, especially of that size, have enough room for two

  • @fetusdeletus9266
    @fetusdeletus9266 4 года назад +923

    We all know that these aren’t tanks
    These are armored lunch boxes with guns

    • @whatthefuckisthis7
      @whatthefuckisthis7 4 года назад +26

      Fetus deletus that’s called an fmg-9

    • @WindiChilliwack
      @WindiChilliwack 4 года назад +10

      @@whatthefuckisthis7 *Looks at old Scorpion tank*

    • @deinekes9
      @deinekes9 4 года назад +4

      And I guess they maneuver by having the commander stick his hand out of the hatch?

    • @vindirect
      @vindirect 4 года назад

      with tubes*

    • @xsonohx7961
      @xsonohx7961 4 года назад +4

      "lunch boxes with guns" roblox tank

  • @captinobvious4705
    @captinobvious4705 4 года назад +572

    Actually, the GLA's Scorpion Tank is pretty much an Italian P26/40 heavy.

    • @lol500000
      @lol500000 4 года назад +62

      "Heavy"

    • @panzerforelle126
      @panzerforelle126 4 года назад +30

      2and900 - War Thunder Weekly technically, it was designed to be as powerful as the Tiger I and enough armoured to withstand the T-34

    • @nahuelleandroarroyo
      @nahuelleandroarroyo 4 года назад +12

      The P is from heavy in italian, Pesado

    • @emperorkane317
      @emperorkane317 4 года назад +2

      With a 30mm chaingun

    • @thefirstprimariscatosicari6870
      @thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 4 года назад +6

      @@panzerforelle126 It was designed to be an early 1940s heavy, and compared to say a B1 Bis it was an heavy even weight wise.
      But since Italian classification was based on role and not weight, and after discovering the wonders of sloped armour with the T-34, the Italians delayed production to completely remake the design, it was kind of outdated role wise.
      And by saying they remade the design I mean that the earlier P40s looked nothing like the late ones. The earliest was planned to weight 25 tons have flat 50 mm thick armour and a 47/32 gun with a 20/65 coaxial, but afterwards they wanted to mount a 6 pounder (Italy was retiring the naval version of that gun and wanted to recycle it on tanks); then they remade it into a 30 ton multi turreted design with 40 mm of slightly sloped armour, a 75/18 in the main turret and a 20/65 in a smaller turret; until finally they settled on the P26 design.

  • @FirehawkSHD
    @FirehawkSHD 4 года назад +414

    "Preserving Freedom" - Paladin Tank

    • @NTAD
      @NTAD 4 года назад +24

      I always wanted a mod that would change it to "Dispensing Freedom" :

    • @Starfleet8555
      @Starfleet8555 4 года назад +32

      "Enemies of the Free World"

    • @PaiSAMSEN
      @PaiSAMSEN 4 года назад +22

      "Paladin Tank in the field"

    • @Fish-kz8xw
      @Fish-kz8xw 4 года назад +12

      Scorpion Tank: scorpion ready to sting!

    • @frankgraham4382
      @frankgraham4382 4 года назад +1

      @Lucas Worden Actually i am pretty sure he says buckle up.

  • @talonharibon8577
    @talonharibon8577 4 года назад +549

    No love for the Battlemaster makes me sad.
    Then again it's just a straight up T-55/62/69 w/e design so yeah.

    • @vaelophisnyx9873
      @vaelophisnyx9873 4 года назад +40

      the expansion's models might be a better topic to cover. more content and mods with new, improved models.

    • @drthrax78
      @drthrax78 4 года назад +28

      We have China's blessing!

    • @brianlance8263
      @brianlance8263 4 года назад +35

      He also missed the Gattling Tank even though it is just a Gattling Gun on a flat tank base

    • @LazyAndFabulous
      @LazyAndFabulous 4 года назад

      But it looks outdated compare to US tanks. and if this is used in the modern era, those tanks wouldn't survive RPGs or any equipment that can give problems to any armored vehicles.

    • @PaiSAMSEN
      @PaiSAMSEN 4 года назад +7

      True, and I'm sure devs know about the Type-96 at the time. However, from gameplay point of view, they probably need a tank that is visually unique enough, and the Type-59 et.al. provide a more unique look than Type-96 did. (Remember that this game was made in 2003, back when 800 x 600 monitor are still pretty common)
      In any cases, the Battlemaster have several different from Type-59 family that it could have its own entry here.
      - Its frontal armor is much steeper than Type-59, or any MBT for that matter, and The turret is much further to the front. It look like this is a normal Type-59 hull with shortened front armor...for whatever reasons. In any case, an armor that steep without clear sign of composite armor is a big vulnerable spot for modern MBT.
      - They are also a big black thingy on top of the turret, above gunner's position. Infrared search light? Remote MG turret? Rocket launcher? I can't tell what it is since it's not detailed enough.
      - Autoloader is an optional upgrade...which make the gun fire 3-round burst somehow.

  • @shaftoe195
    @shaftoe195 4 года назад +128

    Spookston: berates poor vehicle design
    Also Spookston: places all his generators as close to each other as possible.
    _Well engineered, sir._

  • @fatpython8920
    @fatpython8920 4 года назад +1139

    America during lockdown:ak 47’s for everyone

    • @seanwaddell2659
      @seanwaddell2659 4 года назад +53

      Michigan: *visible sweating*

    • @haryharyono2949
      @haryharyono2949 4 года назад +22

      Yaaaaeeehhhhh........!!!!

    • @tylerchiu7065
      @tylerchiu7065 4 года назад +35

      Actually, they would probably hand out ar-15s to everyone, because it's more american than the russian assult rifle

    • @youroverlord6937
      @youroverlord6937 4 года назад +3

      COUNTER STRIKE FOR KIDS!
      *insert victory sound from fnaf

    • @whoelsebutmeofcoursei
      @whoelsebutmeofcoursei 4 года назад +2

      @@tylerchiu7065 brooo....it has nothing to do with patriotism, people buy all sorts of gun there, but...
      youre half-right, huh. that is the most sold gun over there

  • @ponyfucker3427
    @ponyfucker3427 4 года назад +81

    I always loved about gla how their vechicles have some variety to them so they look like they are improvised and made out of scrap. -technicals, quad cannons, i think scorpions and maybe marauders too but not sure.

    • @katier9725
      @katier9725 2 года назад +5

      Also the Scud Launcher and, in ZH, the Battle Bus. And nearly all GLA vehicles in ZH could upgrade with salvage to bolt on bigger guns or additional armour plates.

    • @coneinggaming6285
      @coneinggaming6285 2 года назад +5

      Man I also
      Loved that the toxin tractor is a mobile war crime enjoyer and caused

    • @nailedthepotato1941
      @nailedthepotato1941 Год назад +3

      @@coneinggaming6285 you also have the mail guy and the crowd lover

  • @pougetguillaume4632
    @pougetguillaume4632 4 года назад +326

    Mammoth tank: *exists*
    Spookston: "oi, i'm stopping you right here"

    • @shaftoe195
      @shaftoe195 4 года назад +21

      Spookston: *gets rolled over by said Overlord/Mammoth tank*

    • @pougetguillaume4632
      @pougetguillaume4632 4 года назад +20

      Spookston: *while reenacting the tank man in tian'anmen* noooooo you can't make a game entirely out of memes
      C&C: ahah balloon waifu goes kirov reporting

    • @NexusWarior211
      @NexusWarior211 4 года назад

      Maurader*

    • @lordhamster9452
      @lordhamster9452 4 года назад +2

      @@shaftoe195 “unstoppable!” “Role over them!” [Mammoth]

    • @lordhamster9452
      @lordhamster9452 4 года назад +2

      @@pougetguillaume4632 and comrade dreadnought “serves Soviet Union”
      While in the middle east, chemistry became highly developed science.

  • @azure2621
    @azure2621 4 года назад +157

    The overlord is just a modern vt1-2

    • @aegeanharrier6648
      @aegeanharrier6648 4 года назад +13

      AT least VT1-2 is fast.Overlord is really weak against Aırplane.Its more of a Modern Maus but even an easier target

    • @tntproductions1996
      @tntproductions1996 4 года назад +8

      @@aegeanharrier6648 The Overlord tank can mount a gatling gun on top of the turret to kill aircraft and infantry, but it would still be very slow and a big target, so it just gets killed by artillery.

    • @glacier4286
      @glacier4286 4 года назад +7

      @@tntproductions1996 Raptors can snipe it before its gatlings had a chance to spool up.

    • @kayagorzan
      @kayagorzan 4 года назад

      Hanz gott drunk in ze Panzer azembling faktori

    • @tntproductions1996
      @tntproductions1996 4 года назад +1

      @@glacier4286 The F-22 Raptor is an Air Superiority fighter, and while it can do air to ground missions, other aircraft are much more likely to do air to ground attacks. The A-10 would do just fine as long as there are no SAMs in the area. I think the gatling gun can also act as a point defense weapon to shoot down missiles but not bombs or tank shells, kind of like a CIWS on land.

  • @tramachi7027
    @tramachi7027 4 года назад +216

    Ah. The nonspacing of the reactors makes me go apeshit here :D
    Also I have to digress with the Scorpion. It always reminded me of the Italian WW2 tanks. Like the P40, P26, etc. Especially since they saw extensive use in desert conditions and the GLA is supposedly from more arid, arabian/North African-ish desert regions

    • @aegeanharrier6648
      @aegeanharrier6648 4 года назад +12

      Oh yeah.Never thought about that.It really reminds me of a P40

    • @thedarkzibba7059
      @thedarkzibba7059 4 года назад +1

      P26s never saw combat in North Africa

    • @yeefoongphoon8505
      @yeefoongphoon8505 4 года назад

      For me, it reminds me of a Ha-Go tank to a certain degree.

    • @FelixUmbra
      @FelixUmbra 4 года назад +5

      Don't need to space the reactors if you have enough AA and keep popping their Nuke.
      Lol. "Aurora in flight."x4

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 4 года назад

      @@aegeanharrier6648 looks even more like this proposed upgrade to the M14/M15 to me: pl.pinterest.com/pin/550705860656459370/

  • @NTAD
    @NTAD 4 года назад +263

    Putting a Speakuh Towuh on an Overlord automatically negates anything wrong with it.

    • @evanbasham4875
      @evanbasham4875 4 года назад +40

      Iiiiiiiii don't know man, the bunker was pretty good. Have 2 overlords with bunkers filled with "Foah China!" rifleman and rocket launchers was fun.

    • @plainlake
      @plainlake 4 года назад +3

      I heard that

    • @PaiSAMSEN
      @PaiSAMSEN 4 года назад +44

      Nah, Gatling Overlord is da best. You can never have enough dakka.

    • @LtCWest
      @LtCWest 4 года назад +20

      @@PaiSAMSEN And it com's out red frum da factory, so its fasta too! Ya jus need git that glowy thing in da engine, the one tha makes gretchin grow 3 times bigga!

    • @dharmdevil
      @dharmdevil 4 года назад +8

      @@LtCWest jusy get tank general and get both

  • @MortarGuyX
    @MortarGuyX 4 года назад +81

    Wait, I don't remember the marauder tank every having a rotating turret.

    • @stylesrj
      @stylesrj 4 года назад +32

      It's more of a self-propelled gun than a tank.

    • @thirstyserpent1079
      @thirstyserpent1079 4 года назад +21

      The gla commander ability tank didn't have a rotating turret, the scorpion did but not the marauder.

    • @bushmonsterwilhelm6716
      @bushmonsterwilhelm6716 4 года назад +6

      In Rise of the Reds. It can. Vanilla? Nope

    • @kirra9152
      @kirra9152 4 года назад +1

      The marauder tank upgrade remind me of soviet spg from ww2. Forgot the type though.

    • @MortarGuyX
      @MortarGuyX 4 года назад

      @@kirra9152 Su 85?

  • @EvoSwatch
    @EvoSwatch 4 года назад +117

    "Battlemaster Tank reporting!" -China's Battlemaster
    "Let's give em an air show." -US Raptor
    "Aw, okay okay i will work." -GLA Slave
    Memorable one:
    "Can i have some shoes?"

    • @stylesrj
      @stylesrj 4 года назад +16

      "Thank you for the new shoes!"

    • @jerrell1169
      @jerrell1169 4 года назад +8

      “OUR WAY IS TRUE” and “HURRIYAH!” For the rebel
      And
      “A new hood ornament” for the techie.

    • @StarReveurMA
      @StarReveurMA 4 года назад +2

      "Thank you for the new shoes~"

    • @redalertiscool5172
      @redalertiscool5172 4 года назад +7

      one sentence:
      shuld i push the button

    • @bighaley6882
      @bighaley6882 4 года назад +2

      "I WILL SUCK THE INTERNET DRY"
      - The Chinese hacker

  • @Tienhamir100
    @Tienhamir100 4 года назад +28

    Chinese Dragon tank.
    "I don't see much wrong with this one"
    ~looks up at the tank~
    *God damn, you're tall!*

  • @StorMRagE4EVA
    @StorMRagE4EVA 3 года назад +23

    Also the paladin is a real tank, it's mobile field artillery, that was meant to help replace the old howitzers in heavy field combat

  • @admiraledward5557
    @admiraledward5557 4 года назад +110

    The Marauder looks like the TOG 2

    • @the_corvid97
      @the_corvid97 4 года назад +11

      When the GLA try to cover both naval and armoured warfare at once.

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte 4 года назад +6

      It's Centurion hull and tracks.

    • @WorldofTanks48
      @WorldofTanks48 4 года назад +2

      Although TOG 2 is a lot longer and narrower

    • @paveantelic7876
      @paveantelic7876 4 года назад +1

      It looks like a shorter and wider tog 2. There was actually a concept for the tog 3 that looks similar

  • @thefirstprimariscatosicari6870
    @thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 4 года назад +38

    3:54 To me it looks like an M2 medium tank missing its 9 machine guns.

    • @dasillosa
      @dasillosa 4 года назад +3

      I think it resembles more the M13/40.

  • @SuomenJaakaripataljoona
    @SuomenJaakaripataljoona 4 года назад +36

    What about the Rise of the Reds tanks? (Mod for Generals: Zero Hour) some are redesigned and even more units
    Especially the addition of European and Russian factions
    Edit: There’s also Wiki for the mod which also gives lore of each unit. To make it easier

  • @PerfectJayDread
    @PerfectJayDread 4 года назад +53

    Spooks you should look at Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak you won’t be disappointed!

    • @LtCWest
      @LtCWest 4 года назад +5

      Id bet a 10er hes going to completely ignore the fact that the planet has lower gravity then Earth.
      Not that it matters though, those "cruisers" are ridiculously huge ^^

    • @vaelophisnyx9873
      @vaelophisnyx9873 4 года назад +5

      @@LtCWest low gravity does not excuse bad design. that said, given the situation on Kharak, some of the vehicles do make sense in the context given.

  • @The_Crimson_Fucker
    @The_Crimson_Fucker 4 года назад +45

    The Scorpion looks like some of the Czech tanks of WW2, maybe even Italian? I believe the Marauder is basically a kustom' T-54/55 or maybe an M26?

    • @ANDREALEONE95
      @ANDREALEONE95 4 года назад +12

      Scorpion looks like a WW2 Italian tank.

    • @miloskaluznik48
      @miloskaluznik48 4 года назад +4

      That's either LT vz. 35 or, which is more likeky, M/15/42.

    • @The_Crimson_Fucker
      @The_Crimson_Fucker 4 года назад

      @@miloskaluznik48
      I was actually thinking more along the lines of the P40, the P40 looks almost exactly dead on.
      The M15/42 would make more sense(being that they could be salvage from the North Africa campaign) but the P40 _looks_ almost exactly like it. Maybe a P40 with na M15/42 turret?
      Edit: but then again, that armor looks bolted on so it could be a salvaged M15/42 with aplique armor that makes it look more like a P40. It would actually make a lot of sense...minus the fact that T-54s would probably be more available.

    • @thefirstprimariscatosicari6870
      @thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 4 года назад +2

      To me it looks like an M2 of all things, just missing the trillion machine guns. Mostly because of the turret shape.
      I don't really see how it would look like an Italian tank, except maybe for the P26/40, but that's based on the T-34 anyway.

    • @Lorohn
      @Lorohn 4 года назад +2

      I don't think they're supposed to be real-life tanks. My best guess is that they're made in workshops with whatever is available.

  • @NorthKoreaUncovered
    @NorthKoreaUncovered 4 года назад +93

    “Everything wrong with North Korean tanks” 🙂

    • @yuligamein5502
      @yuligamein5502 4 года назад +13

      dude that whould be a 9 second video...he whould just post pcitures on screen of them..if there are any..and say "..everything"..then videos ends

    • @jerrell1169
      @jerrell1169 4 года назад +4

      No fuel can’t drive

    • @whoelsebutmeofcoursei
      @whoelsebutmeofcoursei 4 года назад +4

      I don't get it, i don't get none of you... NK literally uses cold war Soviet tanks, nothing special to see, move along

    • @NorthKoreaUncovered
      @NorthKoreaUncovered 4 года назад +13

      Akimbo Madman you couldn’t possibly be more incorrect. North Korea uses several indigenous designs based on the T-62 Chassis. The Chonma-Ho (which is the most similar to a T-62), the Pokpung-Ho with it’s smaller, T-90 esque turret, and the Songun-Ho with it’s pronounced hemishpherical turret to help it cope with NK’s mountainous terrain in lieu of hydraulic suspension. The latter two are drastic departures from their soviet origins, and are worthy of discussion.
      I’m not trying to be mean, but at least try to have some general knowledge about a topic before making assumptions. Otherwise you just look stupid.

    • @whoelsebutmeofcoursei
      @whoelsebutmeofcoursei 4 года назад +2

      @@NorthKoreaUncovered Yes you be mean :(

  • @cyroostetherington3335
    @cyroostetherington3335 4 года назад +12

    OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH MMMYYYYYY GOOOOOOD. No one ever talks about CCG. It’s the best CC game imo. Thanks so much for making it

  • @brothercharanus1927
    @brothercharanus1927 4 года назад +4

    "Its very hot in here."
    -Dragon tank

  • @desertfox2403
    @desertfox2403 4 года назад +16

    0:00 - 0:03 Messing up a historical fact point in a public facing RUclips video

  • @someguy4425
    @someguy4425 4 года назад +5

    "Guns are too far apart"
    Cries in VT1-2

  • @proselyteethan
    @proselyteethan 4 года назад +7

    I know you don't typically do mod vehicle analysis, but the Contra mod for Generals redesigned all of the vehicles and has quite a few interesting ones such as super units for each faction, anyways, fantastic video.

  • @park3973
    @park3973 4 года назад +4

    Spookston : Ah Overlord, Another quad track!
    Apocalypse tank : There is ANOTHER

  • @kennethflores9657
    @kennethflores9657 4 года назад +5

    "How about a show of force"
    - Crusader tank

  • @prestongarvey4396
    @prestongarvey4396 4 года назад +10

    Oh I loved this game! If only they would remaster it with updated graphics.

  • @Grasyl
    @Grasyl 4 года назад +7

    3:58 I think the Scorpion tank is some kind of inspired by the Great War FT-17

  • @_mvn
    @_mvn 4 года назад +6

    Thank you for the new shoes!

  • @ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681
    @ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 4 года назад +3

    The twin-gun design is from the Marksman, an anti-air gun vehicle. In that, spacing the guns makes sense since it relies on fast firing and shrapnel to hit fast moving low armored targets.
    It also does look badass.

  • @ADRIAAN1007
    @ADRIAAN1007 4 года назад +1

    Muzzle breaks have another purpose beyond recoil reduction. The main purpose is to redirect gasses to the sides of the barrel to stop it kicking up too much dust infront of the tank as to not block gunner vision for quick followup shots.

  • @archvilethe87th60
    @archvilethe87th60 4 года назад +7

    The Chinese gatling tank looks like a T249 Vigilante.

  • @sharcruiserw3733
    @sharcruiserw3733 4 года назад +8

    Tom Clansy’s: Endwar tanks next?
    Upgraded and stock, they offer weird tactics unlike what the real countries used
    #4

    • @mandalorian_guy
      @mandalorian_guy 4 года назад +1

      Also the American Tank is called the Schwarzkopf, which is what I think the next US design should be called if it's ever made.

  • @CharcharoExplorer
    @CharcharoExplorer 4 года назад +16

    What about the Battlemaster ;d ? Its boring I know. A type 69/59 wannabe.
    I still have hope for War Front's vehicles. I refreshed the Wikia with 5K screenshots of its vehicles.

    • @stylesrj
      @stylesrj 4 года назад +4

      I think he didn't do that one because it's a solid design? Then again, he didn't mention the Gattling Tank either...

    • @emperorkane317
      @emperorkane317 4 года назад

      It`s just a Type 69/59 with a nuclear engine. He would just need a picture of a real one and analyse that

  • @Abdukctkaz
    @Abdukctkaz 4 года назад +8

    The vehicles from Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak could be nice.

  • @leonpeters-malone3054
    @leonpeters-malone3054 4 года назад +7

    If you've taking suggestions, I'd like to see the tanks from Ground Control 1, well, the whole series really.
    Ground Control 1 might have a bit of an issue on the polygon count.
    There's some pretty good design in there and some..... well, not so good.

  • @JazzJaRa
    @JazzJaRa 4 года назад +4

    1:08 looks more like the front of an PzKpfw IV to me, especially with the two hatches there for the transmission.
    But well it is hard to make high polycount models for a game like that, and even more so back when the game was created. So you just do things like optics or scopes as a texture and have to size tem up so that they are visible.

  • @tssteelx
    @tssteelx 4 года назад +5

    "Can I have some shoes?"

    • @ANDREALEONE95
      @ANDREALEONE95 4 года назад +1

      "I'm hungry"

    • @stylesrj
      @stylesrj 4 года назад +1

      Sure, lemme just research them at the Black Market...

    • @nichsulol4844
      @nichsulol4844 3 года назад

      extra armor basically shoe on trackwheel

  • @saidag
    @saidag 4 года назад +2

    "I. AM. *B I G* "

  • @SirAroace
    @SirAroace 4 года назад +11

    can you do the "Rise of the Reds" mod's tanks too?

  • @Epicredeemer
    @Epicredeemer 4 года назад +5

    this game was my childhood. thank you so much for covering it

  • @MrJeanBeam
    @MrJeanBeam 4 года назад +4

    How about you Cover Supreme Commander forged alliance Vehicles

    • @bificommander
      @bificommander 4 года назад +2

      "Now, as for the Megalith's ground pressure: AAAAARGHHH, MY EYES, IT BURNS!"

  • @the_burger
    @the_burger 4 года назад +2

    OH BOY HERE IT IS

  • @drachenkeks42
    @drachenkeks42 4 года назад

    Thanks RUclips for not showing me the content from this creator for A FRICKIN MONTH

  • @Sudsram
    @Sudsram 4 года назад +3

    Lmao brining back memories from 2003 😭

  • @colcheeky
    @colcheeky 4 года назад +1

    I just want to point out, that point-defence laser technology does currently exist. One of the biggest applications of laser weaponry, is on the USS Ponce, with a weapon designed to combat weak smaller targets. So it’s certainly plausible in the near future for tanks to be equipped with anti-missile lasers. Also, Command & Conquer Generals is set in a universe with fusion power (Which we currently haven’t been able to effectively utilise yet), fully optimised laser tanks (Laser General), and microwave tanks (Microwave weapons exist, but aren’t used much, and are still a relatively new concept). So it’s reasonable to assume that Generals could be set in the near future. Ironically, this makes the tank design flaws worse. Anyway, nice video, just wanted to mention these quick facts.

    • @ANDREALEONE95
      @ANDREALEONE95 4 года назад +1

      The in-game chronology set in 2010s .

  • @ndclub67
    @ndclub67 4 года назад

    I clicked on expecting a visual course on video game imagery (how to spot unique units at a glance and make them memorable etc) but I stayed and learned something.

  • @Morgomir09
    @Morgomir09 4 года назад +1

    The Marauder tank is not any actual real world vehicle, its a build your own tank out of various parts, a set of dozer treads, some howitzer barrels (lorewise 155mm) and slapping some very basic plating onto the vehicle, once it gets some salvage it gets a little better armor, but mostly improves in the speed department, its fairly fragile as a result of it being a scratch built vehicle but packs a punch, in combat it is basically a tank destroyer

  • @Farrell461
    @Farrell461 4 года назад +2

    Could you discuss the practicality of drop troopers? Like ODST's or Starship Troopers. Maybe also discuss the practicality of metal armor for foot soldiers, such as the armor the marines wear in Halo.

    • @vaelophisnyx9873
      @vaelophisnyx9873 4 года назад

      iirc the armor marines wear in halo is designed to not instantly burst into flames on contact with plasma from covenant weapons. Thus the obvious, cheap option: metal and metalized ceramics.

    • @DavidBarkland
      @DavidBarkland 4 года назад

      The practicality of drop troops depend 100% on what technology is available. If we assume basically just improved engines and materials compared to what we have today, there would only be two differences between a troop shuttle and a troop pod carrying the same number of troops and materiel: the shuttle would be a much larger and slower target*, and the shuttle can take of again if you have captured sufficient launch facilities. A shuttle would probably be more expensive to build and maintain, but that depends on what type of automation and production technologies exist, and you'll need one pod for every single deployment while a shuttle can be used again and again, so the cost could very much be either way.
      With some improved engine technologies, like fusion or metallic hydrogen, the shuttle can likely carry enough fuel to not just land and then fly of again, but also move significant distances in the atmosphere (allowing you to drop them far from the warzone and just fly in under jet power) and provide close air support to it's troops, while a pod can't. On the other hand, such technologies allows a pod to be made heavier, so it can carry dedicated atmospheric support craft and be armored enough to act as an impromptu stronghold.
      Fancier space opera technologies, like gravity manipulation, faster-than-light travel, mass manipulation, inertial damperners, etc, could further change the playing field. If inertial compensation or similar allow your troops to survive _any_ kind of deceleration and acceleration forces, then a drop "pod" could be made to essentially be an orbit-to-ground bunker-piercing artillery shell that you've crammed a few soldiers into: pretty hard to beat in terms of getting boots on the ground, and if proper warships and carriers can land on planets there's no need to have shuttles to retrieve them, and the carrier itself can provide close air support (depending on specifics and doctrine, fighters and interceptors might still be needed to establish air superiority). In Titanfall, drop pods are fired from geosynchronous orbit, then make an FTL jump to just high enough that they can decelerate, largely eliminating the risk of being shot down, while dropships act gunship and evac. If Star-Trek-style beaming or Stargate-style ring platforms become a thing, then both shuttles and drop pods are impractical since you can just teleport your troops and all their vehicles from the ship and back.
      And regardless of what technologies are on the table, there will likely be many different roles that need to be fulfilled, which will necessitate either specialized platforms that can do their job really well, or multi-purpose platforms that are mediocre at everything.
      *because the shuttle has to survive the descent - a pod doesn't because it's single-use, only the soldiers inside need to survive.

    • @Farrell461
      @Farrell461 4 года назад

      Vaelophis Nyx That’s true, however the marines were shown to have been fitted with metal plates during the war of insurrection, before the covenant attacked. They would have been fighting other humans using kinetics and bullets, yet they still had metal plate armor. Somehow that made it lighter and stronger

  • @MrMarinus18
    @MrMarinus18 Год назад +1

    4:25
    The Panther's turret was actually kind of an issue as it was pretty small for the size gun that was in it. That made handling the big heavy rounds really awkward and really cut into it's sustained rate of fire.

  • @ryokajimosensei2780
    @ryokajimosensei2780 4 года назад +2

    4:28
    That hull looks like a T110e3, the shape that is.

  • @_Morph1ne_
    @_Morph1ne_ 4 года назад

    I never thought I would here the words “it’s a parody of the war on terror” but here I am

  • @jonathany1240
    @jonathany1240 Год назад

    the concept art for the scorpion tank, the name makes so much more sense…

  • @groucho1080p
    @groucho1080p 4 года назад +2

    love you spookston from italy 🤗

  • @spicyainsley9635
    @spicyainsley9635 4 года назад

    i'm just glad this game still is relevant to this day wherein there are tons of video games from pc to mobile.

  • @PaiSAMSEN
    @PaiSAMSEN 4 года назад +1

    "The commander's cupola is also a very large issue - it's less of a cupola and more of a giant box"
    How could I missed this detail for so long. lol

  • @harrygrant4122
    @harrygrant4122 4 года назад

    Man am i glad you did this, this game made so much of my childhood

  • @SantosOverlord
    @SantosOverlord Год назад

    one extra weakness on the tractor is how easy the tyres are to take out

  • @anthonysantilo928
    @anthonysantilo928 4 года назад

    This game took a large chunk of my childhood.

  • @TheArklyte
    @TheArklyte 4 года назад +1

    Marauder is Centurion hull and improvised turret.

  • @naibakie8519
    @naibakie8519 4 года назад

    Muzzle breaks are fit to large calibre cannons all the time to stop them blowing a big cloud of smoke out the front and blinding themselves.

  • @SteelRaven11
    @SteelRaven11 4 года назад

    It's kinda funny the vehicles in C&C seem to get more cartoonist as the game series went on. Makes the tanks easier to identify when they are so small on screen but it still feels like something I would draw in grade school note book.

  • @whoelsebutmeofcoursei
    @whoelsebutmeofcoursei 4 года назад

    I love this series, you nitpick small details from games that really doesn't matter, because:
    1- it's a game;
    2- it probably makes sense in-universe;
    3- Because of '1' it doesn't need to comply with armor/ballistic/mechanical/physical rules;
    And it's really fun, you're not like an total asshole saying everything is wrong and everything sucks and you're basically a perfect god, very cool series! please make more!

  • @bluewarbler9034
    @bluewarbler9034 4 года назад

    All we need now is a Red Alert video and it'll complete the holy trinity of C&C

  • @George_Rakkas
    @George_Rakkas 4 года назад +1

    The marauder doesn't have a turret, it has to rotate to fire.
    The Scorpion seem to me like it's based on ww2 Italian light tanks? It also looks like it has rivoted armor

  • @elijahlana196
    @elijahlana196 4 года назад +2

    Great! next: c&c generals rise of the reds mod

  • @VDCA-wp4tp
    @VDCA-wp4tp 7 месяцев назад

    I have spent whole afternoons playing this game, made my childhood

  • @adnanadil4498
    @adnanadil4498 4 года назад

    Very detailed video! Well done! :)

  • @bencejuhasz6459
    @bencejuhasz6459 4 года назад +1

    The GLA's Scorpion is almost identical to the WW2 Italian L6/40.

  • @moloti6254
    @moloti6254 4 года назад

    The twin gun GLA tank looks like a Tank Destroyer made by literally strapping tracks on a naval gun

  • @jacplac97
    @jacplac97 3 года назад +1

    From what I know, Crusader and Paladin were supposed to be so automated, they'd be operated by a single pilot. This doesn't explain the abysmal amount of hatches tho

  • @MrRed_2205
    @MrRed_2205 4 года назад

    Amazing to see love for this game! Great video

  • @gunkyh5557
    @gunkyh5557 4 года назад

    Yup, the models design' issues were always an interesting topic, and for me as well. I'm glad someone made a video about this!

    • @TheTrueAdept
      @TheTrueAdept 4 года назад

      A lot of it is because the SAGE engine was top of the line for an RTS game... back in 2003. It aged REAL poorly in that regard. Due to all the stuff they had to make it do, the engine had a lot of problems like having a good six Comanches doing a rocket barrage would cause the engine to bug out for those Comanches for the duration of the barrage (rockets disappearing, trails disappearing, that sort of thing). The engine would also start becoming problematic if you have too many units on the field as well.
      You can get mods with that engine rather easily, the problem is that it is pretty restrictive on how you can do things. Tiberium Wars' version of SAGE was far better but still had some problems. The less to say of RA3's engine, the better. I've been forum-mates of one of the Paradox Mod developers and the horror stories of what they had to do to make the mod work are scary. Even then they would get solutions that don't work half the time at best (the tales of trying to get the Confederates SSG to work is particularly horrifying).

  • @jackmarshallD9525
    @jackmarshallD9525 4 года назад

    Thank you Spooks. Thank you for doing this. ❤️

  • @rogerhoffmire7352
    @rogerhoffmire7352 4 года назад

    muzzle break isn't just to handle the recoil. it causes the gases to go to the side and leave a open view. instead of waiting for the smoke to clear.

  • @Bruhngus420
    @Bruhngus420 4 года назад

    I like to imagine this guy is over explaining what is wrong to a kids drawing of a tank.

  • @profsrlojohn635
    @profsrlojohn635 4 года назад

    According to the booklet that came with the game, the GLA scorpion tank is a repurposed and repaired WW1 tank. Which particular one I can't say, but it is very reminiscent of a Renault F1. However, as other people have said, it could be a P-40.
    The Marauder tank isn't based off of any tank. It's supposed to be built entirely from the ground up out of scrap metal. Hence why the driver is so obsessed with collecting scrap. A fact accentuated by the note that there was supposed to be a third upgrade, but it didn't make it in.
    Also, if you notice, the Marauder never rotates it's "turret", and it's upgrades make the turret so massive, it wouldn't be able to move anyway. It's not a tank, it's an assault gun.

  • @alexkorman1163
    @alexkorman1163 4 года назад

    Honestly, the designs in C&C Red Alert would make the best video. Everything is so crazy.

  • @tonnytn3094
    @tonnytn3094 Год назад +1

    Tanks don't have muzzles not because of handling recoils. It is because of using new sub-caliber ammunition. Muzzles forcing these ammo activating earlier than it should. And Muzzle make tank reducing its disguising during battle. For example WW2 Germany Tanks had Muzzle and they were big and heavy enough. But they used cumulative shells mostly. So if we imagine that this tank uses other than sub-caliber shells then Muzzle can be.

  • @ThatSwiggityGuy
    @ThatSwiggityGuy 4 года назад +2

    Doubt you'll see this, but can you do a video on Gears of War? Specifically the Centaur tank and Armadillo APC, since they're actually in the games?

  • @yerlocaljacc8461
    @yerlocaljacc8461 4 года назад

    Gun dealer: AKS FOR EVERYONE
    that one single lone worker (maybe goddamn slave): please i just want 2 pairs of shoes goddamn it

  • @kevelasgaming1028
    @kevelasgaming1028 4 года назад +1

    Dude you missed the Battlemaster tank

  • @s1l3ntd3rp2
    @s1l3ntd3rp2 4 года назад

    fucking hell, generals was my childhood and i still love it

  • @riesenfliegefly7139
    @riesenfliegefly7139 4 года назад +2

    5:07 its adorable when such an objective YTber gets even a bit subjective :D

  • @berzerk-_-fury5470
    @berzerk-_-fury5470 4 года назад

    From Gundam the Type 61 tank?
    It's originally from a 40 year old show. But has had some alterations and fixes with reworks throughout it's history. The version we've been using/on the wiki is the version from the mid 90's and early 2000's.
    The wiki is quite humble and even goes on about it's major flaws as a tank. Hell, there's also a decent amount of refrence art and source material (even some games) so you can get a good look at it.

  • @R17inator
    @R17inator 7 месяцев назад

    5:00 "Unless they can fit a second guy in there somehow"
    Every single vehicle in Generals is crewed by only one person, since a single infantryman is enough to operate an unmanned vehicle, ranked up US vehicles always spawn only one pilot each, Jarmen Kell can instantly snipe the operator of any ground vehicle, and Hijackers can instantly take over them.

  • @yashkasheriff9325
    @yashkasheriff9325 4 года назад

    I just noticed, the Crusader tank has the hatches of a Panzer III on it's front hull. One appears to be a split-hatch design taken straight from the Pz. III's turret, and the other hatch on the tank's left seems to be an emergency escape hatch that was in the side hull of the Pz. III under the tracks.

  • @apocalipsdoebermen8376
    @apocalipsdoebermen8376 2 года назад +1

    He really hates quad tracks😂😂😂

  • @VinegarMoneyGrows
    @VinegarMoneyGrows 4 года назад

    Overlord tank: exists
    Hitler: *heavy breathing*

  • @ivanmatic4229
    @ivanmatic4229 4 года назад +1

    I assume you skipped the Battlemaster because it's basically a Type 59, and decently portrayed so far as the graphics are capable of showing.

    • @stylesrj
      @stylesrj 4 года назад

      He also skipped the Gattling Tank...

  • @megatmohamadirfan7768
    @megatmohamadirfan7768 4 года назад

    I still play this ocassionally in 2020 the nostalgia. Ngl i played this when i was 7yrs old cuz i saw my dad playing it and it looked fun

  • @jba8472
    @jba8472 4 года назад

    The dragon tank, designed by the same team that brought you classics such as the Ford Pinto

  • @MrManhattan18
    @MrManhattan18 4 года назад

    GLA's postal service still delivers

  • @JakeTheTankmaster
    @JakeTheTankmaster 4 года назад +2

    You should have a look a Battalion Wars series vehicle design

  • @sexybutler7401
    @sexybutler7401 4 года назад

    The Marauder looks like a BMD with the turret in the front

  • @sam93931
    @sam93931 4 года назад +1

    some tanks have transmission upfront to further increase crew protection, like the Merkava. Thats a tank used against guerrilla warfare.