you can still buy the Super Sports i guess still making them... i agree with your assessment the 305/35 looks better being taller in the rear compared to the 325/30
I have 315 35 19 and they look like the 305 but even just a squeeze more aggressive. Unfortunately I cannot find that size anywhere anymore it’s really upsetting. I’m about to just settle for the 305/35/19 just to get the closest look I can to the 315/35/19 😔
I just picked up a new set of PSS for my 1SS 1LE. (305/30-20 & 285/30-20) I saved about $320-$350 or something like that over the PS4S tires I was looking at. I assume the PS4S is a better overall tire, but I not thinking there going to be that much better as the PSS's have a very good reputation as a high performance street tire. Two other things I like about the PSS is I prefer the look of the tread pattern, and Pilot Super Sports on a Camaro Super Sport seems kind of cool. I think that they still make the PSS because several cars either still come OEM with them, or they did up until recently so they'll likely still be in production at least in OEM sizes for a few more years. Pretty sure both base GT350's and base C7's came factory with PSS's and your GT350R's and C7 GS and higher up Vettes came with PSC2's.
Yeah you can definitely save some money going with the PSS, but apparently prices on at least the Michelin brand have gone up.( I didn't check other brands) I just bought some new PS4's for the rear on my 20" wheels and they were around a $100.00 more per tire. The PSS's I think I paid around 380 ea. now there over 400. Sheesh!! If I remember correctly from a article I read the difference between the PSS and the PS4 aside from the tread pattern is that the PS4 is composed of a few different compounds and are placed in different areas of the tire. I believe the softer compound is placed toward the outside (for corning) and the harder compound in the middle for daily use (normal driving). I think both are awesome tires but it certainly seems as though Michelin improved with the overall performance of the PS4. I running them again and really enjoy them.
Going with a 305/30R19 square setup. I noticed that 19X11's with 305/30's will almost touch the tower brace lower spring shield when hitting bumps AND i am at stock height. Do you have any banging od the wheel on the strut and spring Assy? Also consider rock guards as the sticky tires will throw pebbles at your paint.
Sorry not sure what components your referring to in regards to the wheel/tire almost touching. In this video I was sitting on a 1.5" drop in the rear and had no clearance issues. Matter of fact I ran 325/30 in the rear and still had room to spare. 305/30 will have no problem in rear. If you have close clearance you need to look into a different offset on the wheels. Now If your talking about fronts that's a different story in regards to fitting a 305. My question to you is why 305 on the fronts? Are you tracking this car alot or is it going to be mainly for street? Check my other videos I'm now running 20's with 2" drop all around and still no problem.
@@mick76 Yea, running 305's in the front since it changes the car's handling all together (genuinely insane). Its a good street/track setup with less sticky tires (had cup 2's on). My fronts are 19X10.5 ET24 and rear of 19x11 ET48. I barely touch the strut tower (inside of the wheel can almost touch the strut). The issue is the angle of the strut and the inside of the rim gets closer as you drop since it adds negative camber. I guess if you are not dealing with this, lucky you!
Great video and explanation. I have the same size wheels and tying to find an all season 305/35/19 for rears is all but impossible. Live in Virginia and drive car year round and want that 305 staggered look. Any suggestions?
Sorry i don't have any suggestion. There really is a limited market for 305/35r19 in all season and summer tires. Which is a shame as I would probably be still running them. I am now on 20's as there are more options. I have a video up about them if you haven't seen it. Thanks for watching and keep your eye out I will be posting some new content on some new suspension mods. Waiting on a few items to arrive.
Coyote5.0 I did see you put on some 20’s and look great. Watch out for those Virginia pot holes with those 30 sidewalls, lol. Tires are the last part of my build,all Steeda and Ford Performance suspension on my 2019 Magnetic GT.
Any chance you noticed one tire picking up more rocks than the other. I could run the 4s or the ss in the front and am looking to see if one picks up less rocks than the other to protect the paint on my corvette
I would say it is about the same in regards to picking up stones. Tread compound is about the same if not identical. From my experience the Michelins are far less prone to picking up stones then the factory Perelli p zeros that came with my car. They were terrible in that sense.
HI Mick, Is there a notable difference in performance with the PSS versus PS4s tires? Some say the wet grip is better with the PS4S but i would like the PSS as I want a 305/35/19 tire. Any advise will be appreciated, I can’t decide if i want to buy a PS4S with 295/35/19 or PSS 305/35/20.
Honestly I don't think you could go wrong with either for driving in wet condition. Very similar tread pattern. The one thing that attracted me to the 4s is Michelin's "multi-compound technology" which they use a softer compound rubber on inner part of the tire and harder on outer part. Which equals better handling in corners and a bit longer tread life over the super sport. Check out my video on my current setup using 20" wheels with 305/30 4s tires.
Did you modify your suspension to get 19x10 front and 19x11 in the back. I’m about to buy some 20s for my 2019 mustang get premium. Had it 3 years now and its time to rim it up. I’m want to go with a deep concave wheel
In this video I'm running Forge Stars in a deep concave lowered on Rosch coilovers. Not necessary to modify suspension to make them fit but in my opinion lowering it a bit helps with overall appearance.
i just bought super sports 305 35 19 and 295 35 19. the rears were made 47/20 and the fronts 37/20 the rear has that stretched look but the front looks regular probably i probably should have went with a 285 on the front to get a little bit more stretch.
I'm looking to get 305 35 19 in the rear and 275 35 9.5 in the front. What do you think of this set up? (Stock height) Or should I do 11s in the front as well ?
That sounds like a great combination and something I would have run if Michelin offered the 4s in 305/35r19. I'm on 20's now but thought about getting another set of 19's to switch out from time to time.
@@life_as_edwin tiresize.com/calculator/ this is the site I use but if memory serves the tire sizes you plan to run should closely match the performance pack wheels. The rears are the ones you really should focus on getting close to oem diameter as they are the ones that ultimately effect your speedometer.
When I need tires I'm thinking about running a squared setup. 19x10 with 285/35. I'm not boosted and don't drive hard all the time so a 285 is fine for me.
Hey mick.. car looks great 👍 I’m actually getting ready to get the same exact tire set up... but i want to make sure I get it right! I’m also worried about losing the wheel gap I have now because my 5.0 is on ford performance lowering springs which is about a 3/4 inch drop & my stang sits perfect maybe a little more then a finger gap. So if I run this same exact setup & when it’s all said & done am I going to gain more wheel gap? Starting to think 20x10 up front & 20x11’s out back...but then I’m worried about the 20’s being to big! Lol. Man this getting new wheels & tires isn’t as easy as I thought it would be... any info would be much appreciated thanks.
Your best bet is to go with 305/35r19 that will be close to the diameter of the 275/40/19 and keep your current wheel gap. Going with a 305/35r20 will be almost an 1" larger diameter over the 305/35r19 or 275/40r19 and will probably eliminate any wheel gap you currently have. The tire might even be slightly tucked in the fender well. That's why I run a 305/30r20. It closely matches the 275/40r19 diameter. Which in turn doesn't greatly affect my speedometer reading.
Hey mick... thanks for getting back to me. 👍think that about sums it up for me I’m sure glad I ran into all your tire/wheel installs helped me out tremendously. Just didn’t want to get this setup & be disappointed & stuck with an expensive wheel/ tire package that didn’t give me the wheel gap that I would be happy with although the 3/4 ford performance lowering springs were cheap but the install not so much.. to me all that money would’ve ended up right out the window if I would’ve installed this setup & ended up with a way bigger gap that I have now which I said it’s a little more then a fingers worth which I think is perfect! 👌thanks again & enjoy that 5.0h... yeah and not a fan of the tire tuck & possibly rub or fender damage!
They still make several versions of Super Sports. The normal version as well as specific ones for BMW and Mercedes. The BMW version is a little narrower tread and a little lighter, the Mercedes version is a little wider and a little heavier. IMHO, they are the best max performance summer tires you can get and also the best quality as well.
Thank you! Not sure on the exact drop as im using coilovers. I would guess around an 1.5 in. rear and a touch lower in the front to give it a raked look.
Sorry the title might be a touch misleading for some. My comparison wasn't based on there performance per say but the over all fitment on an 11" wheel. Both are great tires with similar compounds. For a stock motor with bolts ons 325's are a bit over kill. 305's will do perfectly fine. I am currently running 305 4s on 20" wheels. Here is a link to that video. ruclips.net/video/DMPnrY70UJg/видео.html
This is an old setup. They are Forgestar CF5V. Love the look of those wheels. Might get another set just to swap from my current setup from time to time.
@@mick76 I’m running 325/30/19’s out back on my GT350 and 295/35/19’s the only things that annoys me a bit is the 35’s in the front have a slightly higher profile leaving more of a wheel gap in the back which is a bit of an eyesore but when the front tires are done for I’ll switch to 295/30/19’s 🇺🇸👍
@@chriskociolek1830 lol... that is exactly why I changed my wheel/tire setup and added coilovers. I have a slight case of OCD towards certain things and that drove me nuts that my front had a slightly larger diameter. Check out my other videos if you would like to see my current setup.
@@mick76 Lol cool man I hear ya and will do. I have Ford Performance springs on the GT350 so it lowered it 3/4” but still that tiny difference is like wth 😂🇺🇸
That 305 in the rear looks like its stretched to fit the 11” wheel. Looks like some kids ricer mustang lol.. 315/30/19 looks perfect on a 11” wheel. Especially when your lowered as low as you are. My 19 mustang is lowered on eibach sportline so going to a 30 series tire still looks amazing. On a non lowered car 30’s look horrible
Yes I agree... I was trying to stick with Michelin so was playing around with differant sizes. The fitment in this video was not ideal for me but I thought was better than the 325/30r19 4s's I was running prior to these. I am now on 20's and have dropped another .5" all round. Very happy with the look now. I have a videos up on my current wheel and suspension setup.
No sir I understand very well and your statement would be 100% correct if both tires were both 30 series. The title clearly states 325/30 vs 305/35. Thus making the 305/35 side wall taller as it is 35% of 305. The 305/35 is in fact .5" taller then the 325/30. tiresize.com/calculator/
I agree! I'm using the 4s's on my current setup. The title is probably a little misleading. It was meant to be more of a comparison on fitment then on performance. I still wasn't satisfied with this setup and immediately change them out.
Yeah 305 seem to be the best fit. When it's time for new rubber I think I might try the 305/35r20. I would like to see how the ride quality is versus the 30 series I'm currently running.
@@mick76 I been checking Fb market place / offer up I cannot find any 305/35/19 I see more 305/30/19 it’s like they’re more uncommon but idk how the 30’s would feel
you can still buy the Super Sports i guess still making them... i agree with your assessment the 305/35 looks better being taller in the rear compared to the 325/30
Good video! Nice information very useful 👍
I have 315 35 19 and they look like the 305 but even just a squeeze more aggressive. Unfortunately I cannot find that size anywhere anymore it’s really upsetting. I’m about to just settle for the 305/35/19 just to get the closest look I can to the 315/35/19 😔
What size winter tires would you recommend to get better traction
did you notice a difference in ride quality between the 305/35 vs the 325/30?
I just picked up a new set of PSS for my 1SS 1LE. (305/30-20 & 285/30-20) I saved about $320-$350 or something like that over the PS4S tires I was looking at. I assume the PS4S is a better overall tire, but I not thinking there going to be that much better as the PSS's have a very good reputation as a high performance street tire. Two other things I like about the PSS is I prefer the look of the tread pattern, and Pilot Super Sports on a Camaro Super Sport seems kind of cool.
I think that they still make the PSS because several cars either still come OEM with them, or they did up until recently so they'll likely still be in production at least in OEM sizes for a few more years. Pretty sure both base GT350's and base C7's came factory with PSS's and your GT350R's and C7 GS and higher up Vettes came with PSC2's.
Yeah you can definitely save some money going with the PSS, but apparently prices on at least the Michelin brand have gone up.( I didn't check other brands) I just bought some new PS4's for the rear on my 20" wheels and they were around a $100.00 more per tire. The PSS's I think I paid around 380 ea. now there over 400. Sheesh!!
If I remember correctly from a article I read the difference between the PSS and the PS4 aside from the tread pattern is that the PS4 is composed of a few different compounds and are placed in different areas of the tire. I believe the softer compound is placed toward the outside (for corning) and the harder compound in the middle for daily use (normal driving).
I think both are awesome tires but it certainly seems as though Michelin improved with the overall performance of the PS4. I running them again and really enjoy them.
Going with a 305/30R19 square setup. I noticed that 19X11's with 305/30's will almost touch the tower brace lower spring shield when hitting bumps AND i am at stock height. Do you have any banging od the wheel on the strut and spring Assy? Also consider rock guards as the sticky tires will throw pebbles at your paint.
Sorry not sure what components your referring to in regards to the wheel/tire almost touching. In this video I was sitting on a 1.5" drop in the rear and had no clearance issues. Matter of fact I ran 325/30 in the rear and still had room to spare. 305/30 will have no problem in rear. If you have close clearance you need to look into a different offset on the wheels. Now If your talking about fronts that's a different story in regards to fitting a 305. My question to you is why 305 on the fronts? Are you tracking this car alot or is it going to be mainly for street? Check my other videos I'm now running 20's with 2" drop all around and still no problem.
@@mick76 Yea, running 305's in the front since it changes the car's handling all together (genuinely insane). Its a good street/track setup with less sticky tires (had cup 2's on). My fronts are 19X10.5 ET24 and rear of 19x11 ET48. I barely touch the strut tower (inside of the wheel can almost touch the strut). The issue is the angle of the strut and the inside of the rim gets closer as you drop since it adds negative camber. I guess if you are not dealing with this, lucky you!
Great video and explanation. I have the same size wheels and tying to find an all season 305/35/19 for rears is all but impossible. Live in Virginia and drive car year round and want that 305 staggered look. Any suggestions?
Sorry i don't have any suggestion. There really is a limited market for 305/35r19 in all season and summer tires. Which is a shame as I would probably be still running them. I am now on 20's as there are more options. I have a video up about them if you haven't seen it. Thanks for watching and keep your eye out I will be posting some new content on some new suspension mods. Waiting on a few items to arrive.
Coyote5.0 I did see you put on some 20’s and look great. Watch out for those Virginia pot holes with those 30 sidewalls, lol. Tires are the last part of my build,all Steeda and Ford Performance suspension on my 2019 Magnetic GT.
Any chance you noticed one tire picking up more rocks than the other. I could run the 4s or the ss in the front and am looking to see if one picks up less rocks than the other to protect the paint on my corvette
I would say it is about the same in regards to picking up stones. Tread compound is about the same if not identical. From my experience the Michelins are far less prone to picking up stones then the factory Perelli p zeros that came with my car. They were terrible in that sense.
How are the super sport tires in the rain?
HI Mick,
Is there a notable difference in performance with the PSS versus PS4s tires? Some say the wet grip is better with the PS4S but i would like the PSS as I want a 305/35/19 tire. Any advise will be appreciated, I can’t decide if i want to buy a PS4S with 295/35/19 or PSS 305/35/20.
Honestly I don't think you could go wrong with either for driving in wet condition. Very similar tread pattern. The one thing that attracted me to the 4s is Michelin's "multi-compound technology" which they use a softer compound rubber on inner part of the tire and harder on outer part. Which equals better handling in corners and a bit longer tread life over the super sport. Check out my video on my current setup using 20" wheels with 305/30 4s tires.
Michilen Super sport for the win. Camaro team though ! I just got super sport too
Did you modify your suspension to get 19x10 front and 19x11 in the back. I’m about to buy some 20s for my 2019 mustang get premium. Had it 3 years now and its time to rim it up. I’m want to go with a deep concave wheel
In this video I'm running Forge Stars in a deep concave lowered on Rosch coilovers. Not necessary to modify suspension to make them fit but in my opinion lowering it a bit helps with overall appearance.
@@mick76 thanks
i just bought super sports 305 35 19 and 295 35 19. the rears were made 47/20 and the fronts 37/20 the rear has that stretched look but the front looks regular probably i probably should have went with a 285 on the front to get a little bit more stretch.
Yeah thats sound about right. The width of the rims will play a part in the fitment of the tires as well. What size front rims are you running?
Amy chance you know what the wheel off set is? - Thank you
+35 front +50 rear. Check out my other videos I have one on these wheels and the set i'm currently running.
So what are the size of these rims and you have to get spacer
19x10 front and 19x11 rear. No spacers required.
I'm looking to get 305 35 19 in the rear and 275 35 9.5 in the front. What do you think of this set up? (Stock height) Or should I do 11s in the front as well ?
That sounds like a great combination and something I would have run if Michelin offered the 4s in 305/35r19. I'm on 20's now but thought about getting another set of 19's to switch out from time to time.
@@mick76 I currently have 20s on my mustang but the wheels I want are 19s. Would dropping in size have any affect on how my car drives ?
@@life_as_edwin tiresize.com/calculator/ this is the site I use but if memory serves the tire sizes you plan to run should closely match the performance pack wheels. The rears are the ones you really should focus on getting close to oem diameter as they are the ones that ultimately effect your speedometer.
When I need tires I'm thinking about running a squared setup. 19x10 with 285/35. I'm not boosted and don't drive hard all the time so a 285 is fine for me.
This did age well. I'm looking at a supercharger for my car now and buying 305 tires lol
Hey mick.. car looks great 👍 I’m actually getting ready to get the same exact tire set up... but i want to make sure I get it right! I’m also worried about losing the wheel gap I have now because my 5.0 is on ford performance lowering springs which is about a 3/4 inch drop & my stang sits perfect maybe a little more then a finger gap. So if I run this same exact setup & when it’s all said & done am I going to gain more wheel gap? Starting to think 20x10 up front & 20x11’s out back...but then I’m worried about the 20’s being to big! Lol. Man this getting new wheels & tires isn’t as easy as I thought it would be... any info would be much appreciated thanks.
What wheels and tires are currently on your car?
@@mick76 thanks for getting back to me bro... I have the stock setup that comes with the PP1 Michelin’s... on the 9’s up front & 9.5 out back.
Your best bet is to go with 305/35r19 that will be close to the diameter of the 275/40/19 and keep your current wheel gap. Going with a 305/35r20 will be almost an 1" larger diameter over the 305/35r19 or 275/40r19 and will probably eliminate any wheel gap you currently have. The tire might even be slightly tucked in the fender well. That's why I run a 305/30r20. It closely matches the 275/40r19 diameter. Which in turn doesn't greatly affect my speedometer reading.
Hey mick... thanks for getting back to me. 👍think that about sums it up for me I’m sure glad I ran into all your tire/wheel installs helped me out tremendously. Just didn’t want to get this setup & be disappointed & stuck with an expensive wheel/ tire package that didn’t give me the wheel gap that I would be happy with although the 3/4 ford performance lowering springs were cheap but the install not so much.. to me all that money would’ve ended up right out the window if I would’ve installed this setup & ended up with a way bigger gap that I have now which I said it’s a little more then a fingers worth which I think is perfect! 👌thanks again & enjoy that 5.0h... yeah and not a fan of the tire tuck & possibly rub or fender damage!
Which one is the best in rear 305/30 or 305/35 AND which one is the best in front 275/30 or 275/35?
For me 305/35 rear, 275/35 front. Better ride quality with 35 series.
@@mick76
Thanks a lot 👍👍
They still make several versions of Super Sports. The normal version as well as specific ones for BMW and Mercedes. The BMW version is a little narrower tread and a little lighter, the Mercedes version is a little wider and a little heavier.
IMHO, they are the best max performance summer tires you can get and also the best quality as well.
Really like the stance. What's the drop? Springs? Thanks!
Thank you! Not sure on the exact drop as im using coilovers. I would guess around an 1.5 in. rear
and a touch lower in the front to give it a raked look.
@@mick76 Thanks!
Looks really good. Did you consider going 20 inch?
Yes sir, stay tuned..I have a set of 20" p51's on order will be making a video on that as well.
I don't get it Wich one it's better super sport or 4s ? Y also have a mustang.
Sorry the title might be a touch misleading for some. My comparison wasn't based on there performance per say but the over all fitment on an 11" wheel. Both are great tires with similar compounds. For a stock motor with bolts ons 325's are a bit over kill. 305's will do perfectly fine. I am currently running 305 4s on 20" wheels. Here is a link to that video.
ruclips.net/video/DMPnrY70UJg/видео.html
4s everyday
305/35 and 275/35 would have been the perfect look you were after on the 19x11 and 19x10.
I agree but there are not many choices when it comes to tire selection in a 305/35r19. I am very happy with my current 20" wheel/tire setup.
@@mick76 Nitto N555R2 is a better tire than this and has more traction but is a semi drag tire so wouldn’t perform as good as Michelin in the wet.
Man I have 315/35/19 on my car and they look so beefy and nasty. Unfortunately they don’t seem to make that size anymore which really sucks
Yeah I love 19" wheels but it's tuff finding a wide tire combination in 19's with a staggered setup. Which is why I went with 20's.
Is it lowered
Yes lowered on roush coilovers. Thanks for watching!
How psi r u running on the rear?
Any street tire I run 32 to 34 psi all around.
@@mick76 i got same as your setup my car is fbo e85 10 speed and still I'm spinning even at 60 I'm so confused
@@Mo47047 Huh not sure..I didn't have any traction issues. I'm running intake, headers, and 3" header back exhaust w/ tune.
Does you’re car scrub upfront??
No issues. Check my other videos for current wheel and coilover/suspension setup. Also with no clearance issues. Thanks for watching!
I thought the 325s didn’t look good when viewed from the front, to far out, the 305s look much better
I think so to, but im still not satisfied. Stay tuned I have a set of 20's on order. I will be putting up a video when they arrive.
What then name of those rims…nice car by the way
This is an old setup. They are Forgestar CF5V. Love the look of those wheels. Might get another set just to swap from my current setup from time to time.
What's the offset?
+50 rear +35 front
325’s all the way!!!!
Yeah I agree I might do another set of 19's at some point. With 325 in the rear, but right now I'm very happy with current wheels and tires.
@@mick76 I’m running 325/30/19’s out back on my GT350 and 295/35/19’s the only things that annoys me a bit is the 35’s in the front have a slightly higher profile leaving more of a wheel gap in the back which is a bit of an eyesore but when the front tires are done for I’ll switch to 295/30/19’s 🇺🇸👍
@@chriskociolek1830 lol... that is exactly why I changed my wheel/tire setup and added coilovers. I have a slight case of OCD towards certain things and that drove me nuts that my front had a slightly larger diameter. Check out my other videos if you would like to see my current setup.
@@mick76 Lol cool man I hear ya and will do. I have Ford Performance springs on the GT350 so it lowered it 3/4” but still that tiny difference is like wth 😂🇺🇸
That 305 in the rear looks like its stretched to fit the 11” wheel. Looks like some kids ricer mustang lol.. 315/30/19 looks perfect on a 11” wheel. Especially when your lowered as low as you are. My 19 mustang is lowered on eibach sportline so going to a 30 series tire still looks amazing. On a non lowered car 30’s look horrible
Yes I agree... I was trying to stick with Michelin so was playing around with differant sizes. The fitment in this video was not ideal for me but I thought was better than the 325/30r19 4s's I was running prior to these. I am now on 20's and have dropped another .5" all round. Very happy with the look now. I have a videos up on my current wheel and suspension setup.
@@mick76 hmm that’s weird, the PS4 normally is huge for the size. It is usually wider then it says.
30 is 30% of the width. So if the width is wider, the 30 will be taller. As it’s 30% of the width. You understand it wrong
No sir I understand very well and your statement would be 100% correct if both tires were both 30 series. The title clearly states 325/30 vs 305/35. Thus making the 305/35 side wall taller as it is 35% of 305. The 305/35 is in fact .5" taller then the 325/30.
tiresize.com/calculator/
Michelin pilot sport 4s is better everyday
I agree! I'm using the 4s's on my current setup. The title is probably a little misleading. It was meant to be more of a comparison on fitment then on performance. I still wasn't satisfied with this setup and immediately change them out.
Went from 305/35 to 325/ on my gt350 worst decision ever they handle like shit on curves going past 90 😂
Yeah 305 seem to be the best fit. When it's time for new rubber I think I might try the 305/35r20. I would like to see how the ride quality is versus the 30 series I'm currently running.
@@mick76 I been checking Fb market place / offer up I cannot find any 305/35/19 I see more 305/30/19 it’s like they’re more uncommon but idk how the 30’s would feel
@@gt5hunniid That's why I went to 20's better selection and I can get the 4s's. That's my go to tire right now.