Two Biggest Reasons Why A Screenwriting Pitch Is Rejected - Shannan E. Johnson

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  • Опубликовано: 7 мар 2023
  • Shannan E. Johnson, a native of Houston, TX, is a former creative executive at The Syfy Channel turned CEO of the first black-owned script consultancy in the entertainment industry, The Professional Pen. The Professional Pen is a writer-centered service provider helping emerging and established creatives develop their stories for the screen.
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Комментарии • 86

  • @filmcourage
    @filmcourage  2 месяца назад

    Here is our full interview with Shannan - ruclips.net/video/EUd5hZL62MA/видео.html

  • @tsbrownie
    @tsbrownie Год назад +60

    Shannan is a wellspring of information and always worth the listen. She pointed out 2 contradictory items: that many writers are introverts, but the ways of reaching execs requires the tools of extroverts. That might be worth a discussion.

    • @africansuperhero
      @africansuperhero Год назад +7

      She is amazing! And yes, VERY good point... "Tools of the Extroverts!" (Sounds like a movie all in itself! 🤣)

  • @osw330904
    @osw330904 Год назад +19

    Selling a screenplay sounds a lot like trying to date… most people dont know what theyre looking for, but are quick to reject your offer before giving it the time of day…

  • @James-nv1wf
    @James-nv1wf Год назад +16

    Its clear most high budget films have never been pitched.

  • @XxSEETH3RxX
    @XxSEETH3RxX Год назад +12

    There are more ways in than just Hollywood.

  • @UnleashthePhury
    @UnleashthePhury Год назад +12

    Is true that all pitch meetings begin with “so, you have a movie for me?”

  • @imthebestdirector
    @imthebestdirector Год назад +9

    What she basically said was inside people marketing with each other.

  • @kurtjenkins
    @kurtjenkins 4 месяца назад +2

    How TF are people getting pitch meetings WITHOUT knowing what their story is?! If there ever was an instance of "If THEY can do it, I can do it," it's this interview. Sheesh!

    • @user-xi3co3yu2z
      @user-xi3co3yu2z 4 месяца назад

      Agree, 15 minutes of nothing. Just a hook to her series of hollow advice

  • @nickfindsgold9788
    @nickfindsgold9788 Год назад +14

    Something is going wrong in the industry. Professional gatekeepers and the cost of production is not equating to a quality product (broadly). Its not a complaint, more an observation. Something is being lost between exciting pitch and final edit.... the filters that are in place (people and strategy) need some self reflection.

    • @justinwyatt8
      @justinwyatt8 Год назад +3

      When you have power you can be blind

  • @elNan140
    @elNan140 Год назад +6

    pitching a screenwriting should be easy, barely an inconvenience...

  • @reginayfavors
    @reginayfavors Год назад +13

    This is honestly a great business talk for branding and managing your brand, which translates as the story you are presenting to customers and to the extended audience. Very nice lesson.

  • @douglashall4985
    @douglashall4985 Год назад +8

    I've sold scripts (sold my first one written in 5 days on a lark). I've optioned scripts in every genre. I have to laugh when I listen to a lot of this. Hollywood is so desperate to be seen as relevant, important, vital, informed, and crucial to humanity that they've got thousands of consultants, tutorials, story software... blah blah blah and at the end of the day you see so much horrible crap you just want to say "shut up and entertain." Quit doing this detailed, in-depth analysis like it's a multi-billion dollar new drug you're coming out with that promises to save the world. Just take your big paychecks and be happy. God...

    • @mickkollins
      @mickkollins Месяц назад

      "... Hollywood is so desperate to be seen as relevant"...yep!

  • @scifirealism5943
    @scifirealism5943 Год назад +16

    Shannon is intelligent and inspirational.

  • @mixboy79
    @mixboy79 Год назад +5

    Great useful information. I actually pitched to Syfy in LA back in 2013 they were really engaging and gave great feedback.

  • @sibusisoboemah
    @sibusisoboemah Год назад

    Shannan is so captivating and knowledgeable. Thanks for this!

  • @himwiththehair8118
    @himwiththehair8118 Год назад +2

    4:00 I can tell she is super tired of zombies 😂

  • @michaelr3583
    @michaelr3583 Год назад

    I love this channel, always fascinating people with a wealth of candidly delivered knowledge

  • @MrTitanic222
    @MrTitanic222 Год назад +3

    So if Shakespeare couldn't pitch in 1 hour , Hamlet would be passed on.

  • @blackforestgiant648
    @blackforestgiant648 Год назад

    Thanks for your advice, Shannan.

  • @lespierce1565
    @lespierce1565 15 дней назад +1

    And this is why we have so much crap in the pipeline! Give a writer the benefit of the doubt and don’t waste time, by listening for and hour when you knew you weren’t going to take it!

  • @saragillerupt
    @saragillerupt Год назад

    Very useful straightforward information. Thanks!

  • @gwtolley
    @gwtolley 8 месяцев назад

    Great information. Thank you!

  • @ericjohnson8326
    @ericjohnson8326 Год назад +2

    Of all the interviews I've seen Shannan is the most riveting. She is so on point knows the business, has multiple answers to questions. Knows every aspect of the behind the scenes nuances & is the most confident & believable in her answers. You meet with her you better have your stuff together. Truly appreciate her & would like to see more interviews with her.
    I see some people being interviewed who don't have the answer or can't think fast enough to the questions. Shannan never disappoints😊

    • @filmcourage
      @filmcourage  Год назад +1

      Eric! Great to see you finding value in our interviews with Shannan. Here is a playlist of all the segments we have published with Shannan including our previous 2 full interviews - bit.ly/32pCWAF

    • @ericjohnson8326
      @ericjohnson8326 Год назад

      @@filmcourage Thank you very much. I actually typed in her name and all the interviews came up I'm watching them now. Thank you very much. Things I've learned from watching your show have helped me tremendously Im my writing & going about the business. Thank you

    • @filmcourage
      @filmcourage  Год назад +1

      We are happy to hear that! Our best to you as you move forward on your journey!

  • @huwwackman_excel
    @huwwackman_excel Год назад +10

    Almost impossible as a first time writer to even get an opportunity to pitch. No agent, no access.

    • @resofactor
      @resofactor Год назад +5

      A lot of ego and group ego in this line of work.

    • @MuttonChopYaz
      @MuttonChopYaz Год назад +3

      I've been trying for 10+ years and have been largely ignored. It's mega frustrating and largely a waste of my time and effort. Plus, I'm still 20 grand in the hole from loans for film school.

  • @colstonlchinese
    @colstonlchinese Год назад +7

    Shannan is so thorough! Thank you for sharing!

  • @shopski
    @shopski Год назад +1

    Amzing stuff!!!

  • @fanartexhibit
    @fanartexhibit Год назад +2

    I've really liked this lady's advice in the past, but Twitter is a cesspit that I want little part of.

  • @willstraw9988
    @willstraw9988 Год назад +2

    This is great and very useful. Let's me know what I need to work on being a screenwriter

  • @JrtheKing91
    @JrtheKing91 Год назад +5

    Great information 💡

  • @Andrea-nom
    @Andrea-nom Год назад +4

    Shannan always comes through with straightforward information! Thanks for having her again!

  • @AdonisMediaProductions
    @AdonisMediaProductions Год назад +9

    This was a lot of actual concrete information, very good video, I hate the idea of going on social media but i get the point of networking on it as tool

  • @lukewarmwater5320
    @lukewarmwater5320 8 месяцев назад

    This woman is really slick and straightforward...

  • @michaelmartinez7414
    @michaelmartinez7414 Год назад +3

    This is sad, I learned more from your 12min interview with her then a high price seminar ".

  • @subramanianramamoorthy3413
    @subramanianramamoorthy3413 Год назад +1

    Shannan is back with a bang

  • @filmcourage
    @filmcourage  Год назад +6

    How is this video helpful to you?

    • @T00muchF00Dchannel
      @T00muchF00Dchannel Год назад +3

      It helps me know that I need someone to help me pitch. I can only imagine I get nervous and then they take it as me not knowing my story.

    • @EricHeidenAuthor
      @EricHeidenAuthor Год назад +2

      It reminded me of the importance of building relationships.

    • @Anonymouse007
      @Anonymouse007 Год назад

      Act casual

  • @lacolem1
    @lacolem1 Год назад +7

    Executives: “We don’t take zombies”
    *The Last of Us becomes huge hit*
    Executives: “Whoa there, friend! Let’s talk!”

  • @zstopperuno
    @zstopperuno 6 месяцев назад +1

    Social media - useless.

  • @malusisoko7030
    @malusisoko7030 Год назад +1

    Shanon is brilliant

  • @JohnWick-mv5pr
    @JohnWick-mv5pr 10 месяцев назад +1

    What brilliant insight from Shannan. I want to thank Film Courage for finding such an accurate executive regarding this topic. This information was and is a blessing to listen to. I have to Pitch soon, and I believe I have all the bases covered.

  • @scifirealism5943
    @scifirealism5943 Год назад +5

    CAN SHANNON BE PRESIDENT OF HOLLYWOOD?

  • @rodrickwimberly3245
    @rodrickwimberly3245 Год назад +2

    I just LOVE Shannan! I am a junkie for everything that she does and when I create my media company, I'm going to see if I can coax her to work for (or with) us :) She is very knowledgeable, really authentic, and just a person that you would like to share ideas with, which is very important in a professional setting.

  • @sichtbeton
    @sichtbeton Год назад +2

    I wouldn’t want to work with somebody that arrogant anyways.

  • @BloodDjimon614
    @BloodDjimon614 Год назад +1

    Sometimes Pitches just be crazy

  • @Antigone-yp6ht
    @Antigone-yp6ht 6 месяцев назад

    Hollywood is a ridiculous industry. It's tiring to hear all this crap. We need a Hollywood that works. Good bye.!!!!

  • @nadjakallisfilms4858
    @nadjakallisfilms4858 11 месяцев назад

    Hey there! Do any of you have tips on who to follow and interact with on Twitter like she said? Like, with what people does it make sense, who actually does these "send in your scripts" once in a while and who is less likely to respond? :)

  • @aqgidadu
    @aqgidadu Год назад

  • @pauldeleonfilm
    @pauldeleonfilm 6 месяцев назад +1

    If you got a really good script you might not want to sell it anyway it’s worth more if you sit on it.

  • @Andrea-nom
    @Andrea-nom Год назад +1

    I don’t want to be on Twitter Shannan dear Lord.

  • @HarryJoiner
    @HarryJoiner Год назад

    Okay: This lady is smart as hell.

  • @TheJuzi
    @TheJuzi Год назад +1

    i pitched to 15 production companys in July as part of the Fade In grand prize. All the top ones too. I got 2 call backs. Ask me anything.

    • @poolgoldworldwild2163
      @poolgoldworldwild2163 Год назад +1

      What were the pitches? (if you're allowed to share them)

    • @sibral
      @sibral Год назад +1

      Did you meet via Zoom or video call in any of these pitches? Is there much difference?

    • @TheJuzi
      @TheJuzi Год назад

      @@sibral It was all done with zoom, they said that most meetings are done on zoom now.

    • @thestockimagequeen
      @thestockimagequeen Год назад +1

      Did they say why they called you back? What feedback did you get?

    • @TheJuzi
      @TheJuzi Год назад

      @@thestockimagequeen They were interested in reading the script. they said they enjoyed it but had a full slate. I didn't sell it but came close.

  • @l.b.2392
    @l.b.2392 Год назад

    Wait, so does that mean a yes on the zombies?

  • @comentaristametaforico9287
    @comentaristametaforico9287 Год назад

    Sooo... no zombies?

  • @kirilvalchanov7385
    @kirilvalchanov7385 Год назад

    What if there’s no story, nothing but nonsenses or pieces of many other stories.
    For example, the best way is to use a local hero or famous rock star and we can crash them on the ground, running them completely. The story will be sweet and cheesy..

  • @gabrielcaro
    @gabrielcaro Год назад +4

    First

  • @wexwuthor1776
    @wexwuthor1776 Год назад +4

    But I don't care about your dog. I just want 100k for my script.

  • @BMichaelGalloway
    @BMichaelGalloway Год назад +1

    Yeah, be Caucasian & hetero Male.

  • @AcademyNS
    @AcademyNS Год назад +1

    Greetings from 2023. Is Twitter still the place to be, now that Elon is in charge?

  • @blackerpanther3329
    @blackerpanther3329 Год назад +1

    I’ve heard better