Two Biggest Reasons Why A Screenwriting Pitch Is Rejected - Shannan E. Johnson

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  • Опубликовано: 12 дек 2024

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  • @filmcourage
    @filmcourage  7 месяцев назад +1

    Here is our full interview with Shannan - ruclips.net/video/EUd5hZL62MA/видео.html

  • @tsbrownie
    @tsbrownie Год назад +67

    Shannan is a wellspring of information and always worth the listen. She pointed out 2 contradictory items: that many writers are introverts, but the ways of reaching execs requires the tools of extroverts. That might be worth a discussion.

    • @africansuperhero
      @africansuperhero Год назад +7

      She is amazing! And yes, VERY good point... "Tools of the Extroverts!" (Sounds like a movie all in itself! 🤣)

  • @kurtjenkins
    @kurtjenkins 9 месяцев назад +6

    How TF are people getting pitch meetings WITHOUT knowing what their story is?! If there ever was an instance of "If THEY can do it, I can do it," it's this interview. Sheesh!

    • @RobKnoop-c7x
      @RobKnoop-c7x 9 месяцев назад

      Agree, 15 minutes of nothing. Just a hook to her series of hollow advice

  • @James-nv1wf
    @James-nv1wf Год назад +25

    Its clear most high budget films have never been pitched.

  • @osw330904
    @osw330904 Год назад +28

    Selling a screenplay sounds a lot like trying to date… most people dont know what theyre looking for, but are quick to reject your offer before giving it the time of day…

  • @XxSEETH3RxX
    @XxSEETH3RxX Год назад +15

    There are more ways in than just Hollywood.

  • @UnleashthePhury
    @UnleashthePhury Год назад +14

    Is true that all pitch meetings begin with “so, you have a movie for me?”

    • @petehobson1054
      @petehobson1054 Год назад +7

      "Yes, sir, I do."

    • @comentaristametaforico9287
      @comentaristametaforico9287 Год назад +2

      Oh hey, it's thaaat phrase from thaaat channel! Wow-wow-wow... wow.

    • @Amazon.Prince
      @Amazon.Prince 12 дней назад +1

      ​@@comentaristametaforico9287"dropping meta-references is TIGHT 😂"

  • @lespierce1565
    @lespierce1565 5 месяцев назад +4

    And this is why we have so much crap in the pipeline! Give a writer the benefit of the doubt and don’t waste time, by listening for and hour when you knew you weren’t going to take it!

  • @nickfindsgold9788
    @nickfindsgold9788 Год назад +15

    Something is going wrong in the industry. Professional gatekeepers and the cost of production is not equating to a quality product (broadly). Its not a complaint, more an observation. Something is being lost between exciting pitch and final edit.... the filters that are in place (people and strategy) need some self reflection.

    • @justinwyatt8
      @justinwyatt8 Год назад +4

      When you have power you can be blind

  • @reginayfavors
    @reginayfavors Год назад +14

    This is honestly a great business talk for branding and managing your brand, which translates as the story you are presenting to customers and to the extended audience. Very nice lesson.

  • @MrTitanic222
    @MrTitanic222 Год назад +7

    So if Shakespeare couldn't pitch in 1 hour , Hamlet would be passed on.

  • @imthebestdirector
    @imthebestdirector Год назад +10

    What she basically said was inside people marketing with each other.

  • @lukewarmwater5320
    @lukewarmwater5320 Год назад +1

    This woman is really slick and straightforward...

  • @mixboy79
    @mixboy79 Год назад +8

    Great useful information. I actually pitched to Syfy in LA back in 2013 they were really engaging and gave great feedback.

    • @Amazon.Prince
      @Amazon.Prince 12 дней назад

      Hey I'm pitching with people this month. Are you still in the industry? Would love ANY advice!

  • @sibusisoboemah
    @sibusisoboemah Год назад +1

    Shannan is so captivating and knowledgeable. Thanks for this!

  • @el_nan1
    @el_nan1 Год назад +8

    pitching a screenwriting should be easy, barely an inconvenience...

  • @ericjohnson8326
    @ericjohnson8326 Год назад +3

    Of all the interviews I've seen Shannan is the most riveting. She is so on point knows the business, has multiple answers to questions. Knows every aspect of the behind the scenes nuances & is the most confident & believable in her answers. You meet with her you better have your stuff together. Truly appreciate her & would like to see more interviews with her.
    I see some people being interviewed who don't have the answer or can't think fast enough to the questions. Shannan never disappoints😊

    • @filmcourage
      @filmcourage  Год назад +1

      Eric! Great to see you finding value in our interviews with Shannan. Here is a playlist of all the segments we have published with Shannan including our previous 2 full interviews - bit.ly/32pCWAF

    • @ericjohnson8326
      @ericjohnson8326 Год назад

      @@filmcourage Thank you very much. I actually typed in her name and all the interviews came up I'm watching them now. Thank you very much. Things I've learned from watching your show have helped me tremendously Im my writing & going about the business. Thank you

    • @filmcourage
      @filmcourage  Год назад +1

      We are happy to hear that! Our best to you as you move forward on your journey!

  • @huwwackman
    @huwwackman Год назад +11

    Almost impossible as a first time writer to even get an opportunity to pitch. No agent, no access.

    • @resofactor
      @resofactor Год назад +5

      A lot of ego and group ego in this line of work.

    • @MuttonChopYaz
      @MuttonChopYaz Год назад +4

      I've been trying for 10+ years and have been largely ignored. It's mega frustrating and largely a waste of my time and effort. Plus, I'm still 20 grand in the hole from loans for film school.

  • @KeanuPitt
    @KeanuPitt 4 месяца назад +1

    She said all of that and yet I see way too many horrible fucking movies every year sooooo who’s approving these scripts??

  • @filmcourage
    @filmcourage  Год назад +7

    How is this video helpful to you?

    • @T00muchF00Dchannel
      @T00muchF00Dchannel Год назад +3

      It helps me know that I need someone to help me pitch. I can only imagine I get nervous and then they take it as me not knowing my story.

    • @EricHeidenAuthor
      @EricHeidenAuthor Год назад +2

      It reminded me of the importance of building relationships.

    • @Anonymouse007
      @Anonymouse007 Год назад

      Act casual

  • @Andrea-nom
    @Andrea-nom Год назад +5

    Shannan always comes through with straightforward information! Thanks for having her again!

  • @fanartexhibit
    @fanartexhibit Год назад +3

    I've really liked this lady's advice in the past, but Twitter is a cesspit that I want little part of.

    • @Amazon.Prince
      @Amazon.Prince 12 дней назад

      1 year after you wrote this and I feel like twitter_x has gotten worse 😂

  • @AdonisMediaProductions
    @AdonisMediaProductions Год назад +10

    This was a lot of actual concrete information, very good video, I hate the idea of going on social media but i get the point of networking on it as tool

  • @michaelr3583
    @michaelr3583 Год назад +1

    I love this channel, always fascinating people with a wealth of candidly delivered knowledge

  • @himwiththehair8118
    @himwiththehair8118 Год назад +4

    4:00 I can tell she is super tired of zombies 😂

  • @pauldeleonfilm
    @pauldeleonfilm 11 месяцев назад +2

    If you got a really good script you might not want to sell it anyway it’s worth more if you sit on it.

  • @douglashall4985
    @douglashall4985 Год назад +10

    I've sold scripts (sold my first one written in 5 days on a lark). I've optioned scripts in every genre. I have to laugh when I listen to a lot of this. Hollywood is so desperate to be seen as relevant, important, vital, informed, and crucial to humanity that they've got thousands of consultants, tutorials, story software... blah blah blah and at the end of the day you see so much horrible crap you just want to say "shut up and entertain." Quit doing this detailed, in-depth analysis like it's a multi-billion dollar new drug you're coming out with that promises to save the world. Just take your big paychecks and be happy. God...

    • @mickkollins
      @mickkollins 6 месяцев назад

      "... Hollywood is so desperate to be seen as relevant"...yep!

  • @lacolem1
    @lacolem1 Год назад +8

    Executives: “We don’t take zombies”
    *The Last of Us becomes huge hit*
    Executives: “Whoa there, friend! Let’s talk!”

  • @Antigone-yp6ht
    @Antigone-yp6ht 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hollywood is a ridiculous industry. It's tiring to hear all this crap. We need a Hollywood that works. Good bye.!!!!

  • @subramanianramamoorthy3413
    @subramanianramamoorthy3413 Год назад +2

    Shannan is back with a bang

  • @JrtheKing91
    @JrtheKing91 Год назад +6

    Great information 💡

  • @willstraw9988
    @willstraw9988 Год назад +3

    This is great and very useful. Let's me know what I need to work on being a screenwriter

  • @blackforestgiant648
    @blackforestgiant648 Год назад +1

    Thanks for your advice, Shannan.

  • @scifirealism5943
    @scifirealism5943 Год назад +17

    Shannon is intelligent and inspirational.

  • @michaelmartinez7414
    @michaelmartinez7414 Год назад +4

    This is sad, I learned more from your 12min interview with her then a high price seminar ".

  • @gwtolley
    @gwtolley Год назад +1

    Great information. Thank you!

  • @MonetBradley
    @MonetBradley Месяц назад

    Hollywood is ful of it. Trying to put people through all of these changes and all of the time the very rules they try to enforce, they never even use.themselves. Just take a look at most of the movies that have been produce,they don't even follow proper structure or formatting. Some of them are just awful. Their so busy trying to be " Gatekeepers" and keeping the industry exclusive, only to continue to push the same narrative. A perfect example is all of these Remakes of movies and television shows. I'm so glad that a new day is here and that old formula no longer works. The Entertainment Industry has been flipped upside down and turned inside out. There is a whole new world of people that are a part of this movement of change!

  • @colstonlchinese
    @colstonlchinese Год назад +8

    Shannan is so thorough! Thank you for sharing!

  • @sichtbeton
    @sichtbeton Год назад +5

    I wouldn’t want to work with somebody that arrogant anyways.

  • @scifirealism5943
    @scifirealism5943 Год назад +7

    CAN SHANNON BE PRESIDENT OF HOLLYWOOD?

  • @zstopperuno
    @zstopperuno 11 месяцев назад +2

    Social media - useless.

  • @malusisoko7030
    @malusisoko7030 Год назад +2

    Shanon is brilliant

  • @saragillerupt
    @saragillerupt Год назад +1

    Very useful straightforward information. Thanks!

  • @shopski
    @shopski Год назад +2

    Amzing stuff!!!

  • @FilmSchool-om3ew
    @FilmSchool-om3ew 2 месяца назад

    Also, it annoys me how people comment once, then you never hear from them ever again!
    That's not how real life works.
    Me, I'm a true writer, as such, I always write....I never post just once, then die afterwords.
    I'm to driven for that.

  • @BloodDjimon614
    @BloodDjimon614 Год назад +2

    Sometimes Pitches just be crazy

  • @Amazon.Prince
    @Amazon.Prince 12 дней назад

    So LOGLINE and emotional engagement.
    Goals. Problems characters they are solving.
    Got it.
    I'm not on twitter 😢

  • @JohnWick-mv5pr
    @JohnWick-mv5pr Год назад +2

    What brilliant insight from Shannan. I want to thank Film Courage for finding such an accurate executive regarding this topic. This information was and is a blessing to listen to. I have to Pitch soon, and I believe I have all the bases covered.

  • @HarryJoiner
    @HarryJoiner Год назад +1

    Okay: This lady is smart as hell.

  • @rodrickwimberly3245
    @rodrickwimberly3245 Год назад +3

    I just LOVE Shannan! I am a junkie for everything that she does and when I create my media company, I'm going to see if I can coax her to work for (or with) us :) She is very knowledgeable, really authentic, and just a person that you would like to share ideas with, which is very important in a professional setting.

  • @nadjakallisfilms
    @nadjakallisfilms Год назад +1

    Hey there! Do any of you have tips on who to follow and interact with on Twitter like she said? Like, with what people does it make sense, who actually does these "send in your scripts" once in a while and who is less likely to respond? :)

  • @Andrea-nom
    @Andrea-nom Год назад +2

    I don’t want to be on Twitter Shannan dear Lord.

  • @loverupom
    @loverupom 18 дней назад

    Need more videos... How to pitch my web series to producer/OTT???

    • @filmcourage
      @filmcourage  18 дней назад

      Here are a bunch more - tinyurl.com/4pvm6x8z Best of luck!

  • @TheJuzi
    @TheJuzi Год назад +2

    i pitched to 15 production companys in July as part of the Fade In grand prize. All the top ones too. I got 2 call backs. Ask me anything.

    • @poolgoldworldwild2163
      @poolgoldworldwild2163 Год назад +1

      What were the pitches? (if you're allowed to share them)

    • @sibral
      @sibral Год назад +1

      Did you meet via Zoom or video call in any of these pitches? Is there much difference?

    • @TheJuzi
      @TheJuzi Год назад

      @@sibral It was all done with zoom, they said that most meetings are done on zoom now.

    • @thestockimagequeen
      @thestockimagequeen Год назад +1

      Did they say why they called you back? What feedback did you get?

    • @TheJuzi
      @TheJuzi Год назад

      @@thestockimagequeen They were interested in reading the script. they said they enjoyed it but had a full slate. I didn't sell it but came close.

  • @kirilvalchanov7385
    @kirilvalchanov7385 Год назад +1

    What if there’s no story, nothing but nonsenses or pieces of many other stories.
    For example, the best way is to use a local hero or famous rock star and we can crash them on the ground, running them completely. The story will be sweet and cheesy..

  • @wexwuthor1776
    @wexwuthor1776 Год назад +5

    But I don't care about your dog. I just want 100k for my script.

  • @l.b.2392
    @l.b.2392 Год назад +1

    Wait, so does that mean a yes on the zombies?

  • @comentaristametaforico9287
    @comentaristametaforico9287 Год назад +1

    Sooo... no zombies?

  • @aqgidadu
    @aqgidadu Год назад +1

  • @gabrielcaro
    @gabrielcaro Год назад +5

    First

  • @BMichaelGalloway
    @BMichaelGalloway Год назад +2

    Yeah, be Caucasian & hetero Male.

  • @AcademyNS
    @AcademyNS Год назад +2

    Greetings from 2023. Is Twitter still the place to be, now that Elon is in charge?

  • @blackerpanther3329
    @blackerpanther3329 Год назад +2

    I’ve heard better

  • @FilmSchool-om3ew
    @FilmSchool-om3ew 2 месяца назад

    I guarantee you if 'Shannon' heard my zombie pitch, they'd buy it.
    But that's on the shelf for now and obviously won't share it here or others would steal the idea.
    That being said, in a few weeks I get to 'pitch' my screenplay to a producer in Hollywood, so I'm taking notes, believe me you I'm taking notes.