@@picksalot1 It's still weird to throw a blanket statement about how IRs don't work for your... guitars? Gear I can get, because sometimes people prefer actual cabs and don't use IRs. But whatever guitar you have makes no difference. IRs work regardless. Also buying an IR to get a guitarist's tone seems misguided in the first place. It's not a magical solution. Neither are the Tonex DIs.
@@Laithsmiths It looked like you wanted "my" reason, so I provided it. Jason's showing how to create an IR of one's own guitar, speaks directly to this issue.
@@picksalot1again, it seems like you're overestimating what's going on here. This is nothing as fancy as a "guitar IR", it's not even an IR at all. It is literally just a direct recording, minding the gain levels at the input trim, so you can loop it at the software and make use of it when capturing profiles or testing them. This is not something you use to make your guitar sound like another guitar. Which is why it makes me wonder what the point is in having other people's DI signals, when you're clearly better off either using your own gear's recorded DI, or simply playing your own instrument yourself at the levels you're looking for. Unless this is targeted at people who own the software, but not the hardware.
thanks for the tip on how to make DI for toneX , I will try with toneX One and all my gears I found out -4 dB it matches with my sound card and pedalboard to have -11/12 dB at the DAW , it's sounds great I would say tonex one software has slightly different steps and adjusting with the mouse I can only set -4.4 dB to be close to that but I guess it's kind of alright by ears
Hey Jason, I’ve been binging your input trim videos a lot recently and now I finally understand that in order to have my software and pedal line up I have to have my Tonex pedal set to -5.5 (Tonex has max input of 8 and my irig interface has one of 13.5) but I wondered if it made any difference that I’m using my Tonex in the loop of my HXFX? I’m assuming since the HXFX has instrument input and the loop is set to instrument that it will make no difference to my level hitting the tonex? Realistically I should just stop caring and use my ears but I’d like everything to be calibrated somewhat
Hey Jason! Can you tell me which pack that model is from? I see it says 2 Stone push. I see different packages on your website so I'm not sure which one that's from. Really liking the tone!
Great video, Thanks. I wonder what would have happened if you would have used 48Khz instead of 44.1? Maybe it still works. I'm very surprised they didn't use 48 x 24 for this pedal as this seems to really be the unofficial standard now.
@JasonSadites could you make a video of how to capture a helix full rig tone amp+cab within helix's own routing via usb for tonex to recieve capture. I ask specifically about full rig capture because tonex doesnt seem to allow more than one ir cab or block.
As has been stated by IK Multimedia from the announcement of there upcoming 1.8 update, it will be released sometime in November. I am not in control of when the update is released in anyway.
I know your not in control it was just a question I appreciate your channel and love your tonex Amps I’ve purchased a few . Still having problems getting a decent input gain. Cheers
If you are referring to IK included tone models, they don't publish the spec that they were captured at. The manual states clearly that the Input Trim needs to be adjusted based on the guitar, but an much easier way to do it is set it so you avoid running so little headroom and simply use the Gain knob which does the same thing and is saveable per preset. Hope that helps :-)
@@JasonSadites thanks for the response I was also wondering if you could help me go about getting the most accurate results when using amplitube 5 software because I recently bought it to use with my Motu M2 and epihone Les Paul modern and nothing seems to sound right especially not the high gain models so am I doing something wrong with the gain on my interface?
@@JasonSadites I also wanted to ask if amplitube 5 software has a fixed input level like the line 6 helix has one that you've mentioned in your previous videos and if this fixed input level can be used to tell me how much gain to add to my Motu M2 to get the most accurate results out of amplitube 5 software regardless of what amp, pickups, guitar etc I choose to use
super useful, thanks to you. now i can hear my tones gut not super hot and glossy demo tones which are far from my sound)
Great stuff as always! Thanks Jason.
Love this. I made a -11dBFS DI file so I can align the captures I make to a consistent return level.
Thanks- very informative as always.
Another great video. Thanks, Jason
Great video Jason ... Thanks :)
Great video Jason Thanks so much
I think that was a really smart solution. I've stayed away from IRs simply because they do not for my personal gear and guitars. Thanks
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@@Laithsmiths If you buy an IR to get a Guitarist's specific sound, but you don't have their particular gear, you're not likely to get their sound.
@@picksalot1 It's still weird to throw a blanket statement about how IRs don't work for your... guitars? Gear I can get, because sometimes people prefer actual cabs and don't use IRs. But whatever guitar you have makes no difference. IRs work regardless.
Also buying an IR to get a guitarist's tone seems misguided in the first place. It's not a magical solution. Neither are the Tonex DIs.
@@Laithsmiths It looked like you wanted "my" reason, so I provided it. Jason's showing how to create an IR of one's own guitar, speaks directly to this issue.
@@picksalot1again, it seems like you're overestimating what's going on here. This is nothing as fancy as a "guitar IR", it's not even an IR at all. It is literally just a direct recording, minding the gain levels at the input trim, so you can loop it at the software and make use of it when capturing profiles or testing them. This is not something you use to make your guitar sound like another guitar.
Which is why it makes me wonder what the point is in having other people's DI signals, when you're clearly better off either using your own gear's recorded DI, or simply playing your own instrument yourself at the levels you're looking for. Unless this is targeted at people who own the software, but not the hardware.
I just got my white Tone X, getting some cool sounds, but this is going to take me awhile to figure out how to set up everything the way i like it?..
thanks for the tip on how to make DI for toneX , I will try
with toneX One and all my gears I found out -4 dB it matches with my sound card and pedalboard to have -11/12 dB at the DAW , it's sounds great
I would say tonex one software has slightly different steps and adjusting with the mouse I can only set -4.4 dB to be close to that but I guess it's kind of alright by ears
Hey Jason, I’ve been binging your input trim videos a lot recently and now I finally understand that in order to have my software and pedal line up I have to have my Tonex pedal set to -5.5 (Tonex has max input of 8 and my irig interface has one of 13.5) but I wondered if it made any difference that I’m using my Tonex in the loop of my HXFX? I’m assuming since the HXFX has instrument input and the loop is set to instrument that it will make no difference to my level hitting the tonex? Realistically I should just stop caring and use my ears but I’d like everything to be calibrated somewhat
Hey Jason! Can you tell me which pack that model is from? I see it says 2 Stone push. I see different packages on your website so I'm not sure which one that's from. Really liking the tone!
Absolutely! It is from this collection: www.sadites.com/product-page/ik-multimedia-tonex-2-stone-ss-mid-ultimate-di-tone-models Hope that helps :-)
Great video, Thanks. I wonder what would have happened if you would have used 48Khz instead of 44.1? Maybe it still works. I'm very surprised they didn't use 48 x 24 for this pedal as this seems to really be the unofficial standard now.
Is it also possible with Tonex One?
Unfortunately not :-(
@JasonSadites could you make a video of how to capture a helix full rig tone amp+cab within helix's own routing via usb for tonex to recieve capture. I ask specifically about full rig capture because tonex doesnt seem to allow more than one ir cab or block.
Hi Jason where’s this super new version of Tonex you’ve talked about. Had a new version today with mostly bug fixes. Can you please advise
Kimball
As has been stated by IK Multimedia from the announcement of there upcoming 1.8 update, it will be released sometime in November. I am not in control of when the update is released in anyway.
I know your not in control it was just a question I appreciate your channel and love your tonex Amps
I’ve purchased a few . Still having problems getting a decent input gain. Cheers
Glad you enjoy the videos :-) Can I ask what issue you are having with the input gain?
Is the default input gain level in tonex pedal the same as all the tone models for tonex software?
If you are referring to IK included tone models, they don't publish the spec that they were captured at. The manual states clearly that the Input Trim needs to be adjusted based on the guitar, but an much easier way to do it is set it so you avoid running so little headroom and simply use the Gain knob which does the same thing and is saveable per preset. Hope that helps :-)
@@JasonSadites thanks for the response I was also wondering if you could help me go about getting the most accurate results when using amplitube 5 software because I recently bought it to use with my Motu M2 and epihone Les Paul modern and nothing seems to sound right especially not the high gain models so am I doing something wrong with the gain on my interface?
@@JasonSadites I also wanted to ask if amplitube 5 software has a fixed input level like the line 6 helix has one that you've mentioned in your previous videos and if this fixed input level can be used to tell me how much gain to add to my Motu M2 to get the most accurate results out of amplitube 5 software regardless of what amp, pickups, guitar etc I choose to use