I love the price of the OP-XY. It's prohibitively expensive to the point that I feel no GAS. It's kind of peaceful seeing a nice piece of gear and not yearning for it.
I get the same feeling looking at Ducatis and Lamborghinis 😜 No anxiety cause I couldn’t even pay for a rim on one of those lol thanks so much for stopping by, see you soon!
Yeah it's nice not having to spend over a grand on a toy that only incompetent music creators need. "I DoN't KnOw HoW tO wRiTe A bRiDgE. lEt LiTtLe BaBy KeYbOaRd Do It FoR mE " - 🤡 "producers"
@6:33 Liked and subscribed. Looking forward to more from you. The similarities to Opz are strong, but to me, the vast depths to explore offer a super fun workflow rich with the experience of expression. Well done
@2:42 Very true about the punch-in effects! I'm starting to get a little tired of them using them almost everyday for a few weeks now. I wish they had a bit more adjustability outside of using the pitchbend or literally picking up the OP-XY to move the gyro hahaha
Hahaha! I like that you can sequence them but yeah, with overuse those will probably get tiresome pretty quickly. Still lots more to explore with the whole brain/ scene changing and maestro stuff though👍🏼 Ps: we should swap pointers😂
@@SkerryVibe Maybe they can implement the aftertouch with the pitchbend. Press the punch in effect and then add pressure on the pitchbend to affect the FX.
@@mihaidxn you can actually do that already, you can also use the gyroscope (move the unit) to alter them. While that’s nice it’s not as hands on and fluid as on the ko2, maybe it gets better with some practice though
NGL, that doesn't sound too shabby at all. And I agree that coming up with a bridge structure to make your loop into something that resembles a song is one of the harder things to pull off if you're not into music theory. So, the OP-XY's ability to instantly do that is indeed a very powerful feature.
@@Drrolfski thanks my friend! And yes, the fluidity and flexibility to experiment with those scale changes is very appealing! Will share more soon! See you there✌🏻
Can you not achieve this with Oxi One, is there anything that OP-XY does, using the brain feature, that makes these progressions and key changes any better?
@@Drrolfski I used to think that way, then I learned an instrument. Enjoyment was multiplied. I still haven't fully forgiven myself for not doing it sooner. Can't imagine waiting for a 2.3k gadget to come out before I can do basic stuff.
OP-XY is nuts. The routing it offers for external FX pedals is something ive craved for years. You can send individual tracks to FX units and back in. You would need a laptop, clunky mixer, ton of wires and another clunky interface to do what this sleek unit does. Not forgetting the 'brain' aspect for musicality, all the synths, sampling etc etc....Anderton did a 2 hour video on this thing which barely scratched the surface....... Release of the year.
Yep, the Z has that kind of transposition, though I don’t know if the new brain is “smarter” than the old (I’d assume it is). It really is a neat feature, something I really like about the M8 as well, especially for chiptune. If you’ve already got a classic chiptune arpeggio-chord-approximation-thing going on, being able to pop the whole thing up or down so many semitones, or especially to transpose it to a whole new scale is such a convenient thing to have. My one gripe with the Z, and why I eventually used it as just a sequencer for other hardware, is that the synth engines and yeah, the punch-in effects became super obvious “this came from a Z” tells over time. The tape track never got old, but one of the ways that made the punch-in effects seem fresh is sequencing them as well with step components. IMO the step components + punch-in effects in combination is what makes the Z unique, and what made it stand out as a “super pocket operator” at the time. The XY gives you all that, plus big boy synth engines, generative sequencing, and a bunch of the reasons that I have an OXI-One, M8, and Deluge for as well? This is exactly what I wanted from an OP-Z 2.0 On a side note, my favorite thing about your videos is that I’m not coming for an economics lesson or gripes and complaints in comparison to the rest of the market, I’m coming to watch someone who genuinely loves this stuff as much as I do have a good time enjoying themselves with the hardware and discovering those “wow” moments. We’ve already got a million dudes saying “it’s expensive har har” like they’ve never bought even a mid-tier instrument in their lives. Not a lot of guys bringing the “middle aged dude just loves this shit” energy. That’s what I’m here for. I get GAS watching you have GAS, in the most in-context way possible.
Thanks so much for this comment my friend, I really appreciate it❤️ might have to change the channel name to “middle aged dude just loves this shit”😂🙌🏻🙌🏻
This is one of the things that's most tempting to me about the OP-XY. I'm also music theory blind and even if i've read or watched videos on it it takes a long time for me to really internalize concepts and understand them in practice (i'm a drummer what do you expect??). Thanks for the vid!
Yooo!! I used to tease my band drummer when we would tune our basses and guitars😜 “This song is in G major btw”. He’d just give me a dirty look😂 The Brain is definitely interesting for the theoretically challenged like you and me. Thanks for watching, lots of love my friend!
OG OPZ owner. It's a big grown-up version of the OPZ with a much better form factor, great keys of course, better synths, and screen. I don't think there are any new "ideas" that weren't in the OPZ. Even the touted transposition track had an analogue in the OPZ. It's actually remarkable how *little* they changed from the OPZ's ideas.
I'm most happy with 1-4 bar. Finally. Made me crazy, with "resolution" change you no longer can poke to note+step. Though I still love OP-Z buggar, it fits pocket better. I'm sure they will be friend and play together nicely 😎
Agreed but I’d also add that the form factor of the OPZ truly sucked hard. Constant double triggers, always having to go back to the manual for key combinations since there was no screen, etc. You could definitely see the potential of the OPZ but it was so hard to use without keys and a screen.
Apt observation…the “brain” is basically a refined version of the master track on the op-z, it’s definitely got quite a few improvements one of the biggest being build quality which I feel was one of the main gripes that people have with the op-z
Interesting chord composition idea. Reminds me of those "arranger" keyboards that let you play auto-accompaniment with samba or waltz or other pre-canned beats. But this way you can build the groove first and then play it as your own accompaniment. Not sure it will catch on but I don't think I've seen it implemented like this before.
looks like your hand is getting bettter, that's really great !!! btw. one day i will buy this just becasue of that brain transpose feature .. this is just amazing .. absolutely love it
4:08 THIS. I know that feeling and what helped me out was Suggester 2. I saw triads, 7th chords, and then "secondary dominants" which is what allowed me to "take it somewhere else" Making that click I think is worth it
The chord mode on the new Launchkey mk4s is similarly great. It’s not just about programming chords, it’s got the same visual feedback that shows you what actually going on with the ability to change in real time. Check it out if you haven’t already! Blows the new Arturia Essential mk3s out of the water
6:00 this is the essence of every piece of gear one pays for. Value isn't just features and aesthetics. It's also personal and evolving over time. While I too lack musical education and have been making music for years, for me this ability isn't worth $2000. But I'll never judge anyone who choses to buy it.
Thanks so much for empathizing my friend! I’m still not sure myself if this is worth the asking price but I hope to have more clarity in the weeks to come. Hope to see you soon! Cheers!
@@MidlifeSynthesist I assume you guys know that other hardware sequencers (like the Hapax) have done this for years. Is it the combination of OP-XY features that makes it feel special and work for you?
I completely agree that performance is the key feature that makes the OP-Z shine. I also believe that the eight auxiliary tracks are sometimes even more important than the eight instrument tracks themselves. That said, the instruments do sound great as well!
As someone who was disappointed with all of the limitations in the original OP-1 and not willing to spend $2,000 even with the improvements in the Field, OP-XY BLEW ME AWAY right out of the box. It didn’t take many demos to realize that it was the groovebox I had been waiting YEARS for, and in person it proved that to be true. It is such a wonderful instrument and I haven’t even made a jam yet!
OP-1F and OP-XY are incredible! The limitations on the OP-1 Field are what make creating on it so immediate. There is definitely some more stuff to add on a future release though for sure.
I do think that Field can be vastly improved, and I do appreciate that it has its own workflow. There are some features on Field I would like to have on XY, like a 30 second tape looper with tape effects to play alongside the sequencer, and I would totally swap the XY Epiano and Organ engines for the Field’s String or another engine. I am very tempted to look closer at Field but with XY I am more in need of a hardware sound design/sample MANGLER (waiting specifically for the Torso S-4 to get together.) really wish XY had a granular engine..
@@MidlifeSynthesist I tried twice with units. Terrible integration with external pedals (basically you cant). Headache to use (especically after a week of not using it). It appeals to the geeky user for sure with its community FW etc. but nah. Multi sampling just crashes, SD card can get lost inside the unit. Its best feature for me is programming midi notes on its grid.
Thanks for the video. I had a good laugh at the initial warning. The sound you’re getting here is really solid. Most videos about the OP XY tend to make it sound like a toy. The Brain seems to be the real innovation compared to the OP-Z, which I’ve used a lot. The sturdiness and the less “toy-like” format of the OP XY also seem like real advantages over the OP-Z. But is all of this reasonably worth the asking price? I’m still thinking it over.
Super excited for the second part of your series, first time someone is saying something with that clarity about the brain. I have one XY, due to GAS, I’m not musician, tried to learn music theory but I don’t get it. Thank you so much for making this and sharing. I’m glad you have your arm back.😊
I love my op-z and want the op-xy really badly but I’m not paying that much for one anytime soon. My push 3 shows tomorrow, upgrading from the push 2, I’ll settle there for a bit. Sure looks slick though.
Thanks for watching my friend! Push 3 is a MASSIVE upgrade and I love it to death. You can make all the music in the world with it alone and never need anything else. Congrats and enjoy!
that brain feature is pretty great. I'm not sure if it's exactly the same thing, but the Retrokits RK-008 also has some really good options that force transpositions to scales/modes. Makes me want to dig back into that and learn it really thoroughly.
I guess this ‘Brain’ function will be the next big thing, widely implemented in other products in the near future. I can imagine Ableton Live incorporating something like this as a killer feature in Live 13. In the meantime, I’ve bought the OP-XY, mainly for this ‘Brain’ function, and I’m waiting to receive it.
People were making great bridges before there was so much focus on music theory. Like you say, it’s a feel and you can cultivate that feel for your composition with lots of listening to lots of different music, and practicing composition. Great video, I like how you’re approaching this series! 🙂✨
I have a question about the brain function of the OP-Xy. Can it be modulated outside of its original key? Is it capable of producing modal music? Thank you.
Old school OP-Z user here. Most of the functions are the same, with a few additional ones. For example, adding more pages to the track length so you can have 64 1/16th steps creates a lot more possibilities. It’s also nice to have a screen and not have to use an app, which may or may not work anymore in 10-20 years whereas the screen can be replaced if it goes out. The synth engines sound mostly the same but I haven’t had time to explore all of them. Sampling is way easier now, with the ability to record a sample onto each track instead of each sample track using a chopped single sample. I wish it was as easy to navigate as my OP-Z but getting the hang of that comes with time. Most importantly, I think it’s not only a great instrument but a beautiful piece of design and well worth the cost, if that sort of thing is important to you. Anything that’s fun to learn and play is a good musical instrument.
Although they’re not the same thing, this “brain” reminds me of the feature on the Polyend Synth where one of the three available synths is the “leader” and the other two are “followers”. It allows for the music to go down some paths that I never would have found on my own. It’s these kind of discoveries that makes sequencers and groove boxes so much fun to play with
You caught main points resonating with me: I want to play a beautiful instrument. I’m OP-Z from day one, XY is next incarnation fixing or improving experience, incl screen. I used screen with phone but it’s not always practical. Seeying Brain work at screen may help to understand and use it more, even OP-Z had transpose track. Punch-in FX like DJ style tricks has zero value for me. Having said that, exploiting those for making twangs, sweeps, and twists, for your synth sound and recording those in micro dosage into the track, has huge value. Making things alive and interesting is everything at least for my electronic music. Same differentiator was there for me on OP-Z. Coincidently I buy my XY today, they start showing up at stores after holidays. OP-XY fully justifies the price for me personally. Only fool would argue it’s nothing, of course it’s a large sum of money. Have to sell smthg, plan, rethink your next gear plans, but must have for me. Great chords and track and on point talk as always, mate! ❤
Maybe a dumb question (new to this world), but if you make a song with a TE synth, is it yours? Do you own the the rights, or do they get credit for providing the samples and such?
Hi! That’s a great question and sort of a hot topic. The answer might depend more in what sample you use. If you mean a one shot drum sample, probably no. But if you so happen to make the exact same sequence with the exact same samples that another artist uses and he uploads before you, technically he might be able to claim it. Frankly, for 99% of us that won’t be a problem as the probability of that happening is pretty small and I suspect most people in this space are making music cause they love it and not to make a living out if it. Hope that helps!
Thank you for doing that! Yupp. All there on the OP Z including the performance/punch in effects. No difference so far. The OP Z let's you choose if you want to work with a display (phone over Bluetooth) or without. The build is another topic though. It feels like the OP Z wasn't really a serious option for most because of its toy like appearance. But man is it a powerhouse. Seriously. I think the OP XY shines with other aspects.
@@MidlifeSynthesist I just watched the 2 hours in depth on the andertons TV channel with the guy from TE who wrote the (incomplete) manual. That's worth watching. And to me show the real powers of the XY. And makes me feel better investing in it
I think the punch-in FX in a SP-404 context might get boring over time, but you can use it in a more subtle way to add variation to a single instrument or perc/melodic group. And you can sequence it, in multiple different scenes! Also, since the stock drum kits follow a pattern in how the type of drum sounds are placed, you can play around with your own drum kits to create new types of punch-in patterns. Ramp up doesn't have to be a kick, snare, tom fill if you replace those samples with other sounds. Every time I think of a feature on the XY, how it works and how you can bend it, it blows my mind. My prediction is that the XY will far surpass the impact the OG OP-1 had. And the OP-1 had a pretty huge impact.
@@MidlifeSynthesist nice! I like to hear more of that one. last Xmas I traveled to Australia and it feels warm about anything Australian. we liked it there very much!
great video,sadly not in stock in belgium for the moment.Is it easier than a Digitakt? After a few months i forgot all the combinations all the time so i sold it! they added so many functions to memorise i am to stupid i guess.
I don’t intend to sound mean, but most hardware boxes have a scales mode… for a few hundred bucks get a circuit tracks and use the scale and key function. You can easily arrange on it…plus send it external to other midi gear. Mc 101 and 707 same. Mpc and machine also have scales and chords mode. On the Mpc you can even supply midi chord progressions you like and save them… recall them and transpose and play them on individual pads.
Hello my friend! I’ve used a few of those boxes (MPC is one of my all time favorites) and though they indeed have chord/scales modes, when I’ve used them in this way (live transposing of multiple tracks and sequences into different modes/scales) the results have usually been very unpredictable or even unusable. I want to compare this eventually with my MPC so I’d love to check out if maybe there’s something I’m missing with it’s ability to do live scale changes and sequence transpositions. Do you know of any videos showing that being done in Mpc and hopefully explaining it so I can try it out? Could you maybe leave me a link to check it out? I’d truly appreciate it🙌🏻 lots of love!
most composed music doesn’t change scale and sound natural unless you are doing the scale change using a few notes that are common to both scales (e.g intermingle 2 scales both that have the chords of Cm). That said, I know on the Roland they have a transpose clip setting which is super easy. On the Mpc I would simply use the progression feature to flip the scale and key how you like while recording or some prefer to keep it easy and resample the section to a combined sample that they transpose and effect (filter pass) for a bridge or alt sequence. On Circuit Tracks I would just tie short clips with key changes… as it easy very easy to program.
No worries, honeymooning with my first Elektrons, I'm totally fine ;-) Still, looks like a fun music machine. I like the design, the GUI. Might fetch me a TE in the future, but that'll probably be the PO-133.
It's a great device; I can't think of anything else like it in this form factor (no, Deluge doesn't cut it). I'd not ignore punch in fx, start sequencing them and combining with tape, yu can get a really interesting, unique sounds. Brain, well, it's for people who don't know music theory. Useful shortcut that speeds up workflow, but nothing magic and it gets confused with more complex scales/chords. For me, it's a gimmick, but I can see the appeal. By the way try linking a track to lead it, it's quite fun. Many early 2000s arrangers and workstations had similar/better transpose abilities. Right now, off the top of my head, Squarp Hapax can do this (and more-it can transpose to any chord, and it's a great sequencer, by the way). OP-XY is not flawless. File/sample management is very basic and somewhat bad at the moment. I hope it's fixed in an update. There is no internal insert FX (I'd love to have one per track). There is no easy way to slice samples. There is only one LFO per track. There is a shared envelope for the drum set. It sounds excellent, and the DACs are super high-quality. It works very well with external FX and MIDI. The multisampler is very good, if a bit cumbersome to set up due to a bad sample management system. Flaws aside, I really like mine. As you said, it's inspiring and very immediate, and I'd buy it again immediately if it broke.
i am interested in your full take on it - i've had an op1 since it was new - i'd like to hear about the synths, the sampling capabilities, the sound quality, getting stems over to a computer, syncing to things without a computer (?) etcetc ad inf. take care 😃
@@stuartboldt8441 thanks so much for watching!! I plan to be very thorough with this one so I hope to answer most of your questions! See you soon my friend!
@@MidlifeSynthesist I'll look out for the video. For me, although 'clever' chord progression software is interesting, i don't imagine it stretches the overall capabilities of the hardware that much - i guess i'm most interested in how much you can get out of the hardware (and it's quality - for that price). i'm a very happy OP1 and TX6 user but, in the UK, the OPXY is the price of a pretty decent automobile 😮
Nice one. I really liked that short jam-sequence. I wonder If you can you use the Brain to transpose the chords of external synth's and vst's, too? That would be interesting for me 🙂
I still don't get it, but I still watch the video and enjoy the chill take on a thing. I mean I just bought a push 3 so I'm not complaining about the cost but of the two things that one (and the 25% off sale) made it a no brainer for my goals in music creating.
I think the whole secret behind the Teenage Engineering mystique is that they make you rediscover the power and versatility of signal processing by making it non-intuitive and slightly frustrating again.
as long as it works stringing patterns together, without skipping or off key notes? It's better than OP-Z, I wanted something portable but tracker mini and OP-Z are just not perfect. This sounds amazing, though! I love the ARP/Chords and delay.
I’ve had an OP-Z since day one, I still use it and always have it with me in my backpack. It’s a completely magical little device in my opinion. I don’t know if the brain in the OP-XY is more advanced than the master track on the OP-Z, but what you showed can absolutely be done on the Z. As I understand it, the sequencer and step-components are just as powerful on the OP-Z, which makes it hard for me to justify buying an OP-XY. Why X, Y when I have Z at home? ;)
Lol! Thanks for sharing that! I’ve had read that the OG has a similar function and I’m curious as to the differences. Can’t afford a Z to make the comparison though since I’ll be paying for this for a few months 😅😂 see you soon!
Absolutely! Education is the best investment always👍🏼 I wonder if the op xy brain helps understand theory better or just makes you lazy (like using a calculator for basic math makes you slower at doing it yourself). Hopefully I’ll have an answer down the line. Thanks for watching!
@ that’s the crux though isn’t it? This thing will modify all the tracks to fit the new scale and you can just wing it with no prep. That’s pretty powerful in a live scenario👍🏼
The brain was already in the OP-Z but I was just discussing the other day with a guy that had made a video “brain deep dive” if it is changed or not. I believe on the OP-Z you could use brain only by pressing 1 key (at least that is how I used it for it broke, I think) and here you clearly press multiple keys when you hit the G. (I think you try G and G + Bb and you get different results. ) so this really looks very promising. But you press an awful lot of white keys for a sequence that is already in white keys, would be interesting to see more combinations of white and black keys. For example, I wonder if C + Bb will go to C minor or C mixolydian? Hard to tell. I think I am going to buy it too, because I loved the OP-Z and although I can replicate this brain behavior for 90% in Hapax, Hapax is not an on the go machine.
@@edtotman2952 Yes. The OP Z calls it the "Master" track. With the "M" on the track button. If you connect the phone over Bluetooth to the OP Z then you have the feedback on the key and mode of the sequence and when transposing it shows you the applied key and mode as well.
Thanks for watching! I’m trying to understand it slowly so I don’t overlook anything, so I haven’t gotten to exporting yet, but it is a big item on my to do checklist! See you soon!
You can’t..there’s a reason all the YT shills haven’t touched that topic because you can’t. I’m returning mine I got pass the honeymoon phase and this is not worth Over 2k.
@@MidlifeSynthesist One of the big strengths of the OP-1 (Field) was reported to be the kind of commitment that went along with the creation process. Can you feel that this device still shares this strength, even though it is not a tape to record on but rather a sequence?
Your problem with not knowing where to go after the main loop & hook isn't a music theory problem but more of a lack skills in the composition. Check this dude out for more tips: www.youtube.com/@JamesonNathanJones
@@LudovicCoullet as far as I can tell, it is essentially the same thing as master on the Z. Differences so far: it’s better at auto detecting the scale/key, but also has a manual mode, unlike the Z. However, I am experiencing differences in behavior from the Z when using the tonality step component. Haven’t figured out yet if these are bugs or intentional changes.
man, your channel's changed a lot since I was last here (and I admit, I was subscribed at some point but then not anymore). I love everything about this video: the candidness, the lack of background music and other shticks, and your overall demeanour. I think you've found an antidote that's fit for an overly attention-grabbing platform that's getting tiresome at times. time to subscribe again.
TE is known for making devices with intentional limitations. What are the purposeful limitations of the XY? Do you feel that they hamper or inspire you?
Hi! I haven’t hit any weird TE limitations per se yet, but I need more time with it. I absolutely know what you mean though and I’ll be sure to report them when I see them show up. Haven’t gotten there yet, but seems that exporting tracks might be the bottleneck. See you soon!
Oxi One has a very similar feature but it makes other tracks follow a designated track. Haven’t tried it as a performance trick but now I definitely will! Thanks for watching!
The Brain transposition is pretty cool, but otherwise it seems like just a beefed-up OP-Z. I got mine used for about $350 a couple of years ago and it's still the most versatile, powerful, and fun instrument I own. Think I'll wait about a year or two and pick a used XY when the market is flooded. In the meantime the Z does the trick.
I’m hearing a lot that the Z has lots in common with this! Having never owned one, certainly feels like I missed out! Happy beatmaking and thanks for sharing!🙌🏻
I have the OP-1 and many TE products. I would never buy one again without hands on time before purchase. Great stuff but expensive and quirky. I like my TX-6 mixer and OB-4 the best.
Until now, the xy seems to be the most accesible one of the bunch, lots of known influences are apparent in the workflow! That said, totally agree you should try one first! It’s a huge investment 😅
As anyone else, I think it is a very interesting and GAS-inducing device but with a price point so massively inflated that it's really turning me off. Just for comparison, the novation circuit tracks can also do the transposition to different keys and modes, and that went on sale for almost 1/10th of the price of this device last week. Of course there are some things that the XY can do that the CT can't or can't do as immediate, but no way are they worth 2000 bucks to me. That said, love your channel and would love to see more content of you creating music and playing around with it. Live vicariously through you. Much love.
Oh I thought you would find it funny that after your Dentist Spiel in the last episode about how people don’t invest in their teeth, I got a deep cleaning appointment.
As an op-z user I was waiting for a new and improved version, but after seeing all the reviews I came to the conclusion that there are not enough improvements for me to upgrade. XY is a very nice device with great potential, i'm sure. Here in Europe the OP-Z is 330 Euros now and it does a lot of stuff the OP-XY does. If TE would just open up the synth engine on the op-z, i wouldn't even watch this video :)
At 5 min mark you feel like you've been 'let in for the first time to a secret place' I think NDLR might have something to say about that with its chord sequencing
NLDR is awesome but this does so much more. You could string together lots of different things that already exist to achieve most (if not all) of what the xy does, but then you would not have everything in one small, highly inspiring, no set-up required complete solution. There’s a lot of value in one small box that does it all and has a battery that lasts for days.
Biggest "wow" factor comes to equation when you realize each synth has only 4 parameters and drum synth doesn't give you option to modify params separately for each voice in a kit. BTW: you can change scales on the fly on Deluge (Shift+Scale) ;)
I love the price of the OP-XY.
It's prohibitively expensive to the point that I feel no GAS.
It's kind of peaceful seeing a nice piece of gear and not yearning for it.
I get the same feeling looking at Ducatis and Lamborghinis 😜 No anxiety cause I couldn’t even pay for a rim on one of those lol
thanks so much for stopping by, see you soon!
Yeah it's nice not having to spend over a grand on a toy that only incompetent music creators need. "I DoN't KnOw HoW tO wRiTe A bRiDgE. lEt LiTtLe BaBy KeYbOaRd Do It FoR mE " - 🤡 "producers"
@@LunchBandit Not really, if it's inspiring or a sound someone really wants they will invest the time.
@ you just know everything and everyone’s workflow and creativity. I bow down to you master
@6:33 Liked and subscribed. Looking forward to more from you. The similarities to Opz are strong, but to me, the vast depths to explore offer a super fun workflow rich with the experience of expression. Well done
I really love your story telling ability. Very nice video. This is one of the more interesting videos I saw covering this product.
Thanks so much for your kindness and generous words❤️ truly appreciated my friend🙌🏻 see you soon!
@2:42 Very true about the punch-in effects! I'm starting to get a little tired of them using them almost everyday for a few weeks now. I wish they had a bit more adjustability outside of using the pitchbend or literally picking up the OP-XY to move the gyro hahaha
Hahaha! I like that you can sequence them but yeah, with overuse those will probably get tiresome pretty quickly. Still lots more to explore with the whole brain/ scene changing and maestro stuff though👍🏼
Ps: we should swap pointers😂
They should’ve put aftertouch in the keyboard like on the ko2, it makes the punch in fx much more playable and dynamic
@ 100%!
@@SkerryVibe Maybe they can implement the aftertouch with the pitchbend. Press the punch in effect and then add pressure on the pitchbend to affect the FX.
@@mihaidxn you can actually do that already, you can also use the gyroscope (move the unit) to alter them.
While that’s nice it’s not as hands on and fluid as on the ko2, maybe it gets better with some practice though
NGL, that doesn't sound too shabby at all. And I agree that coming up with a bridge structure to make your loop into something that resembles a song is one of the harder things to pull off if you're not into music theory. So, the OP-XY's ability to instantly do that is indeed a very powerful feature.
@@Drrolfski thanks my friend! And yes, the fluidity and flexibility to experiment with those scale changes is very appealing! Will share more soon! See you there✌🏻
Can you not achieve this with Oxi One, is there anything that OP-XY does, using the brain feature, that makes these progressions and key changes any better?
Just a thought ...get into theory and stop relying on gadgets to fill the basic theory gaps.
@@Kevinschart That's probably what you want to be doing if you want to become good. But not necessarily if you just want to enjoy.
@@Drrolfski I used to think that way, then I learned an instrument. Enjoyment was multiplied. I still haven't fully forgiven myself for not doing it sooner. Can't imagine waiting for a 2.3k gadget to come out before I can do basic stuff.
OP-XY is nuts. The routing it offers for external FX pedals is something ive craved for years. You can send individual tracks to FX units and back in. You would need a laptop, clunky mixer, ton of wires and another clunky interface to do what this sleek unit does. Not forgetting the 'brain' aspect for musicality, all the synths, sampling etc etc....Anderton did a 2 hour video on this thing which barely scratched the surface....... Release of the year.
Yep, the Z has that kind of transposition, though I don’t know if the new brain is “smarter” than the old (I’d assume it is). It really is a neat feature, something I really like about the M8 as well, especially for chiptune. If you’ve already got a classic chiptune arpeggio-chord-approximation-thing going on, being able to pop the whole thing up or down so many semitones, or especially to transpose it to a whole new scale is such a convenient thing to have.
My one gripe with the Z, and why I eventually used it as just a sequencer for other hardware, is that the synth engines and yeah, the punch-in effects became super obvious “this came from a Z” tells over time. The tape track never got old, but one of the ways that made the punch-in effects seem fresh is sequencing them as well with step components. IMO the step components + punch-in effects in combination is what makes the Z unique, and what made it stand out as a “super pocket operator” at the time. The XY gives you all that, plus big boy synth engines, generative sequencing, and a bunch of the reasons that I have an OXI-One, M8, and Deluge for as well? This is exactly what I wanted from an OP-Z 2.0
On a side note, my favorite thing about your videos is that I’m not coming for an economics lesson or gripes and complaints in comparison to the rest of the market, I’m coming to watch someone who genuinely loves this stuff as much as I do have a good time enjoying themselves with the hardware and discovering those “wow” moments. We’ve already got a million dudes saying “it’s expensive har har” like they’ve never bought even a mid-tier instrument in their lives. Not a lot of guys bringing the “middle aged dude just loves this shit” energy. That’s what I’m here for. I get GAS watching you have GAS, in the most in-context way possible.
Thanks so much for this comment my friend, I really appreciate it❤️ might have to change the channel name to “middle aged dude just loves this shit”😂🙌🏻🙌🏻
@ Absolutely! We’re in the same boat, brother. Glad we’ve got you out here! And hey, it’s not a bad name 😂
This is one of the things that's most tempting to me about the OP-XY. I'm also music theory blind and even if i've read or watched videos on it it takes a long time for me to really internalize concepts and understand them in practice (i'm a drummer what do you expect??). Thanks for the vid!
Yooo!! I used to tease my band drummer when we would tune our basses and guitars😜 “This song is in G major btw”. He’d just give me a dirty look😂
The Brain is definitely interesting for the theoretically challenged like you and me. Thanks for watching, lots of love my friend!
This is a really mind-blowing ability. Thank you for the expensive inspiration!
OG OPZ owner. It's a big grown-up version of the OPZ with a much better form factor, great keys of course, better synths, and screen. I don't think there are any new "ideas" that weren't in the OPZ. Even the touted transposition track had an analogue in the OPZ. It's actually remarkable how *little* they changed from the OPZ's ideas.
I'm most happy with 1-4 bar. Finally. Made me crazy, with "resolution" change you no longer can poke to note+step. Though I still love OP-Z buggar, it fits pocket better. I'm sure they will be friend and play together nicely 😎
Agreed but I’d also add that the form factor of the OPZ truly sucked hard. Constant double triggers, always having to go back to the manual for key combinations since there was no screen, etc. You could definitely see the potential of the OPZ but it was so hard to use without keys and a screen.
Apt observation…the “brain” is basically a refined version of the master track on the op-z, it’s definitely got quite a few improvements one of the biggest being build quality which I feel was one of the main gripes that people have with the op-z
your arm is back in service? good to see - wish you all the best!
Thank you my friend!! I’m halfway through rehab, hopefully I’ll be able to lift it on it’s own in a month or so💪🏼💪🏼
I really love the track. Made my workday better ❤️
This comment made my day better❤️ thank you my friend!
Interesting chord composition idea. Reminds me of those "arranger" keyboards that let you play auto-accompaniment with samba or waltz or other pre-canned beats. But this way you can build the groove first and then play it as your own accompaniment. Not sure it will catch on but I don't think I've seen it implemented like this before.
looks like your hand is getting bettter, that's really great !!!
btw. one day i will buy this just becasue of that brain transpose feature .. this is just amazing .. absolutely love it
Thanks so much for the good vibes my friend! Until now, it really seems to be the killer app on this thing!
4:08 THIS. I know that feeling and what helped me out was Suggester 2. I saw triads, 7th chords, and then "secondary dominants" which is what allowed me to "take it somewhere else"
Making that click I think is worth it
Wow! I had no idea the suggester 2 existed! Thanks for the suggestion🫢😜 will definitely check it out! Lots of love!
The really great thing about punch in fx is that they work over midi on external hardware.. that’s amazing
Thanks for the glorious content as usual!!
The chord mode on the new Launchkey mk4s is similarly great. It’s not just about programming chords, it’s got the same visual feedback that shows you what actually going on with the ability to change in real time. Check it out if you haven’t already! Blows the new Arturia Essential mk3s out of the water
Thanks so much for the heads up!! Will definitely try to check it out!
So true. Launchkey is a must have.
6:00 this is the essence of every piece of gear one pays for. Value isn't just features and aesthetics. It's also personal and evolving over time. While I too lack musical education and have been making music for years, for me this ability isn't worth $2000. But I'll never judge anyone who choses to buy it.
Thanks so much for empathizing my friend! I’m still not sure myself if this is worth the asking price but I hope to have more clarity in the weeks to come. Hope to see you soon! Cheers!
Sounds absolutely beautiful and looks so fun to play
It is!! Thanks for watching!
Nice one! Can’t the moog muse do key transposition to on the go? Can’t remember
I was thinking the exact same thing once I found this function. Pure awesomeness ❤
Glad you like it! 🙌🏻🙌🏻
@@MidlifeSynthesist I assume you guys know that other hardware sequencers (like the Hapax) have done this for years. Is it the combination of OP-XY features that makes it feel special and work for you?
I completely agree that performance is the key feature that makes the OP-Z shine. I also believe that the eight auxiliary tracks are sometimes even more important than the eight instrument tracks themselves. That said, the instruments do sound great as well!
Thanks for dropping me a line my friend! See you soon with more XY videos!
What is that twin speaker grill looking thing above the XY?
Lol, those are the velcro thingies that come with it so you can put it on a surface
Hey, no sling! Way to wing it!
Thanks my friend!! Now I just need to be able to lift my arm😂🤪
@@MidlifeSynthesistI had rotator cuff injury/surgery, you’ll get there
@ thanks brother!
As someone who was disappointed with all of the limitations in the original OP-1 and not willing to spend $2,000 even with the improvements in the Field, OP-XY BLEW ME AWAY right out of the box. It didn’t take many demos to realize that it was the groovebox I had been waiting YEARS for, and in person it proved that to be true. It is such a wonderful instrument and I haven’t even made a jam yet!
OP-1F and OP-XY are incredible! The limitations on the OP-1 Field are what make creating on it so immediate. There is definitely some more stuff to add on a future release though for sure.
I do think that Field can be vastly improved, and I do appreciate that it has its own workflow. There are some features on Field I would like to have on XY, like a 30 second tape looper with tape effects to play alongside the sequencer, and I would totally swap the XY Epiano and Organ engines for the Field’s String or another engine. I am very tempted to look closer at Field but with XY I am more in need of a hardware sound design/sample MANGLER (waiting specifically for the Torso S-4 to get together.) really wish XY had a granular engine..
OP-XY is GREAT!!!
Sounded good man. Cool machine for sure.
Thanks my friend! I’m really digging it too🙌🏻
The thing I like about the OP-XY the most is that it convinced me to finally buy a Deluge.
😂 LOL! Deluge is a BEAST!! (And you’ll be saving almost 1k👍🏼) enjoy it my friend 🙌🏻
@@MidlifeSynthesist I tried twice with units. Terrible integration with external pedals (basically you cant). Headache to use (especically after a week of not using it). It appeals to the geeky user for sure with its community FW etc. but nah. Multi sampling just crashes, SD card can get lost inside the unit. Its best feature for me is programming midi notes on its grid.
You won't regret it!!!
Thanks for the video. I had a good laugh at the initial warning. The sound you’re getting here is really solid. Most videos about the OP XY tend to make it sound like a toy. The Brain seems to be the real innovation compared to the OP-Z, which I’ve used a lot. The sturdiness and the less “toy-like” format of the OP XY also seem like real advantages over the OP-Z. But is all of this reasonably worth the asking price? I’m still thinking it over.
Super excited for the second part of your series, first time someone is saying something with that clarity about the brain. I have one XY, due to GAS, I’m not musician, tried to learn music theory but I don’t get it. Thank you so much for making this and sharing. I’m glad you have your arm back.😊
Thanks so much for watching and leaving such kind words! I hope you enjoy what’s coming cause there’s plenty more to explore! See you soon!
I love my op-z and want the op-xy really badly but I’m not paying that much for one anytime soon. My push 3 shows tomorrow, upgrading from the push 2, I’ll settle there for a bit. Sure looks slick though.
Thanks for watching my friend! Push 3 is a MASSIVE upgrade and I love it to death. You can make all the music in the world with it alone and never need anything else. Congrats and enjoy!
that brain feature is pretty great. I'm not sure if it's exactly the same thing, but the Retrokits RK-008 also has some really good options that force transpositions to scales/modes. Makes me want to dig back into that and learn it really thoroughly.
I guess this ‘Brain’ function will be the next big thing, widely implemented in other products in the near future. I can imagine Ableton Live incorporating something like this as a killer feature in Live 13. In the meantime, I’ve bought the OP-XY, mainly for this ‘Brain’ function, and I’m waiting to receive it.
People were making great bridges before there was so much focus on music theory. Like you say, it’s a feel and you can cultivate that feel for your composition with lots of listening to lots of different music, and practicing composition. Great video, I like how you’re approaching this series! 🙂✨
I still wanna know if it’s possible to export the separate tracks in your daw
Me too!!😂 haven’t gotten there yet but I’m headed that way🤘🏻 I’ll keep you posted!
I have a question about the brain function of the OP-Xy. Can it be modulated outside of its original key? Is it capable of producing modal music? Thank you.
Old school OP-Z user here. Most of the functions are the same, with a few additional ones. For example, adding more pages to the track length so you can have 64 1/16th steps creates a lot more possibilities. It’s also nice to have a screen and not have to use an app, which may or may not work anymore in 10-20 years whereas the screen can be replaced if it goes out. The synth engines sound mostly the same but I haven’t had time to explore all of them. Sampling is way easier now, with the ability to record a sample onto each track instead of each sample track using a chopped single sample. I wish it was as easy to navigate as my OP-Z but getting the hang of that comes with time.
Most importantly, I think it’s not only a great instrument but a beautiful piece of design and well worth the cost, if that sort of thing is important to you. Anything that’s fun to learn and play is a good musical instrument.
Although they’re not the same thing, this “brain” reminds me of the feature on the Polyend Synth where one of the three available synths is the “leader” and the other two are “followers”. It allows for the music to go down some paths that I never would have found on my own. It’s these kind of discoveries that makes sequencers and groove boxes so much fun to play with
You caught main points resonating with me: I want to play a beautiful instrument.
I’m OP-Z from day one, XY is next incarnation fixing or improving experience, incl screen. I used screen with phone but it’s not always practical. Seeying Brain work at screen may help to understand and use it more, even OP-Z had transpose track.
Punch-in FX like DJ style tricks has zero value for me. Having said that, exploiting those for making twangs, sweeps, and twists, for your synth sound and recording those in micro dosage into the track, has huge value. Making things alive and interesting is everything at least for my electronic music. Same differentiator was there for me on OP-Z.
Coincidently I buy my XY today, they start showing up at stores after holidays. OP-XY fully justifies the price for me personally. Only fool would argue it’s nothing, of course it’s a large sum of money. Have to sell smthg, plan, rethink your next gear plans, but must have for me.
Great chords and track and on point talk as always, mate! ❤
Thanks bro! Love seeing you here and appreciate your thoughts! I think you’ll definitely have a great time with it🤘🏻
lol i love your swatch watch! also (2:20) DID YOU SAY OXY1*???? ARE YOU A PLUKO FAN????
"Rated g for gas" 🤣
And that's how you get a thumbs up in the first two seconds of the clip, well done sir.
Lol! Thanks my friend!🙌🏻
Maybe a dumb question (new to this world), but if you make a song with a TE synth, is it yours? Do you own the the rights, or do they get credit for providing the samples and such?
Hi! That’s a great question and sort of a hot topic. The answer might depend more in what sample you use. If you mean a one shot drum sample, probably no. But if you so happen to make the exact same sequence with the exact same samples that another artist uses and he uploads before you, technically he might be able to claim it. Frankly, for 99% of us that won’t be a problem as the probability of that happening is pretty small and I suspect most people in this space are making music cause they love it and not to make a living out if it. Hope that helps!
@ That’s great info, thanks for the reply! Love your content, especially the Op-Xy adventures 👍🏻
Thank you for doing that!
Yupp. All there on the OP Z including the performance/punch in effects. No difference so far.
The OP Z let's you choose if you want to work with a display (phone over Bluetooth) or without.
The build is another topic though.
It feels like the OP Z wasn't really a serious option for most because of its toy like appearance.
But man is it a powerhouse. Seriously.
I think the OP XY shines with other aspects.
@@nitefly-music thanks for that my friend! I never knew the OP-Z was so awesome!🙌🏻
@@MidlifeSynthesist I just watched the 2 hours in depth on the andertons TV channel with the guy from TE who wrote the (incomplete) manual. That's worth watching. And to me show the real powers of the XY.
And makes me feel better investing in it
Didn't you review the Oxy1 with it's chord mode feature? How is that different from this expensive device?
It’s very similar but not quite! I plan to do a video comparing both soon! Hope to see you there!
I think the punch-in FX in a SP-404 context might get boring over time, but you can use it in a more subtle way to add variation to a single instrument or perc/melodic group. And you can sequence it, in multiple different scenes! Also, since the stock drum kits follow a pattern in how the type of drum sounds are placed, you can play around with your own drum kits to create new types of punch-in patterns. Ramp up doesn't have to be a kick, snare, tom fill if you replace those samples with other sounds. Every time I think of a feature on the XY, how it works and how you can bend it, it blows my mind. My prediction is that the XY will far surpass the impact the OG OP-1 had. And the OP-1 had a pretty huge impact.
I believe the Woovebox might do something similar to the Brain function.
I just recieved a woovebox! I didn’t know it could do that! Thanks for the headsup, I’ll be sure to include it in my comparisons👍🏼👍🏼
@@MidlifeSynthesist nice! I like to hear more of that one.
last Xmas I traveled to Australia and it feels warm about anything Australian. we liked it there very much!
great video,sadly not in stock in belgium for the moment.Is it easier than a Digitakt? After a few months i forgot all the combinations all the time so i sold it! they added so many functions to memorise i am to stupid i guess.
I’m not sure yet! I think the Digitakt might be deeper, but this seems faster? I need some time before I can say for sure. Thanks for watching!!
I have the opz and there is a key change thing on there, but the brain sounds waaayyyy better! Thanks for posting , keep dreaming🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thanks so much for watching!!
I definitely see buyer's confirmation bias. But glad you found a 2K smile. Look forward to further review.
Lol! Thanks my friend!! See you soon🤘🏻
Is that the Kastle 2 off to the side of your desk?
YES!! Good eye😂 I’ll be reviewing it soon!
I don’t intend to sound mean, but most hardware boxes have a scales mode… for a few hundred bucks get a circuit tracks and use the scale and key function. You can easily arrange on it…plus send it external to other midi gear. Mc 101 and 707 same. Mpc and machine also have scales and chords mode. On the Mpc you can even supply midi chord progressions you like and save them… recall them and transpose and play them on individual pads.
Hello my friend! I’ve used a few of those boxes (MPC is one of my all time favorites) and though they indeed have chord/scales modes, when I’ve used them in this way (live transposing of multiple tracks and sequences into different modes/scales) the results have usually been very unpredictable or even unusable. I want to compare this eventually with my MPC so I’d love to check out if maybe there’s something I’m missing with it’s ability to do live scale changes and sequence transpositions. Do you know of any videos showing that being done in Mpc and hopefully explaining it so I can try it out? Could you maybe leave me a link to check it out? I’d truly appreciate it🙌🏻 lots of love!
most composed music doesn’t change scale and sound natural unless you are doing the scale change using a few notes that are common to both scales (e.g intermingle 2 scales both that have the chords of Cm). That said, I know on the Roland they have a transpose clip setting which is super easy. On the Mpc I would simply use the progression feature to flip the scale and key how you like while recording or some prefer to keep it easy and resample the section to a combined sample that they transpose and effect (filter pass) for a bridge or alt sequence. On Circuit Tracks I would just tie short clips with key changes… as it easy very easy to program.
Great video, and a very cool device. Thanks for sharing. (See everybody, I commented without mentioning the price. It’s possible!)
😂😂 thanks for sharing the love my friend!
that transpose sounds magical
I know this is off topic, but anyone know what watch that is!? Dig it!
1. If the instrument helps you learn theory that is pretty amazing
2. OP-Z Master is brain
3. Can this outperform logic and AI for composition?
Nice to see the Sub 25 in the background.
op-z was fun, I think op-xy was a great idea, make the fun and creative factor of op-z but make it super professional and good.
No worries, honeymooning with my first Elektrons, I'm totally fine ;-) Still, looks like a fun music machine. I like the design, the GUI. Might fetch me a TE in the future, but that'll probably be the PO-133.
It's a great device; I can't think of anything else like it in this form factor (no, Deluge doesn't cut it). I'd not ignore punch in fx, start sequencing them and combining with tape, yu can get a really interesting, unique sounds. Brain, well, it's for people who don't know music theory. Useful shortcut that speeds up workflow, but nothing magic and it gets confused with more complex scales/chords. For me, it's a gimmick, but I can see the appeal. By the way try linking a track to lead it, it's quite fun.
Many early 2000s arrangers and workstations had similar/better transpose abilities. Right now, off the top of my head, Squarp Hapax can do this (and more-it can transpose to any chord, and it's a great sequencer, by the way).
OP-XY is not flawless. File/sample management is very basic and somewhat bad at the moment. I hope it's fixed in an update. There is no internal insert FX (I'd love to have one per track). There is no easy way to slice samples. There is only one LFO per track. There is a shared envelope for the drum set.
It sounds excellent, and the DACs are super high-quality. It works very well with external FX and MIDI. The multisampler is very good, if a bit cumbersome to set up due to a bad sample management system.
Flaws aside, I really like mine. As you said, it's inspiring and very immediate, and I'd buy it again immediately if it broke.
Isn’t that brain function available on Oxi One already?
It’s very similar but not quite! I plan to do a video comparing both soon! Hope to see you there!
MAN
THE BRAIN
HOW IT FEELS.
Just
Wow.
100%🤯
Can you break down the difference between OXIs Harmonizer and Op-XYs Brain ?
@@dazisk5355 that should make for a great video! Thanks for the idea👍🏼
I believe the Yamaha qy sequencer series had something similar
i am interested in your full take on it - i've had an op1 since it was new - i'd like to hear about the synths, the sampling capabilities, the sound quality, getting stems over to a computer, syncing to things without a computer (?) etcetc ad inf. take care 😃
@@stuartboldt8441 thanks so much for watching!! I plan to be very thorough with this one so I hope to answer most of your questions! See you soon my friend!
@@MidlifeSynthesist I'll look out for the video. For me, although 'clever' chord progression software is interesting, i don't imagine it stretches the overall capabilities of the hardware that much - i guess i'm most interested in how much you can get out of the hardware (and it's quality - for that price). i'm a very happy OP1 and TX6 user but, in the UK, the OPXY is the price of a pretty decent automobile 😮
Interested in the watch! What is that?
Nice one. I really liked that short jam-sequence. I wonder If you can you use the Brain to transpose the chords of external synth's and vst's, too? That would be interesting for me 🙂
I haven’t tried that yet but thanks so much for the idea! That would be very cool to experiment with! Stay tuned🤘🏻
@@MidlifeSynthesist can't wait! 🤓
Track sounds great man... I love the sound of the OP-XY. GAS on 1000 😩
Thanks so much my friend! I’ll be making more of these so stay tuned🙌🏻
I still don't get it, but I still watch the video and enjoy the chill take on a thing. I mean I just bought a push 3 so I'm not complaining about the cost but of the two things that one (and the 25% off sale) made it a no brainer for my goals in music creating.
I think the whole secret behind the Teenage Engineering mystique is that they make you rediscover the power and versatility of signal processing by making it non-intuitive and slightly frustrating again.
0:27 can you talk about the bugs you encountered ? I'm worried about mine
PO-20 Arcade had something like brain build in and it was awesome there.
Oh man, I wouldn’t have thought about it like that but you’re right. That’s wild
as long as it works stringing patterns together, without skipping or off key notes? It's better than OP-Z, I wanted something portable but tracker mini and OP-Z are just not perfect.
This sounds amazing, though! I love the ARP/Chords and delay.
Thanks so much for watching my friend!! I’m digging it so far!
I’ve had an OP-Z since day one, I still use it and always have it with me in my backpack. It’s a completely magical little device in my opinion. I don’t know if the brain in the OP-XY is more advanced than the master track on the OP-Z, but what you showed can absolutely be done on the Z. As I understand it, the sequencer and step-components are just as powerful on the OP-Z, which makes it hard for me to justify buying an OP-XY. Why X, Y when I have Z at home? ;)
Lol! Thanks for sharing that! I’ve had read that the OG has a similar function and I’m curious as to the differences. Can’t afford a Z to make the comparison though since I’ll be paying for this for a few months 😅😂 see you soon!
While it’s an interesting concept, I think learning theory is way way cheaper than $2k and you can use it on any synth/groovebox
Absolutely! Education is the best investment always👍🏼 I wonder if the op xy brain helps understand theory better or just makes you lazy (like using a calculator for basic math makes you slower at doing it yourself). Hopefully I’ll have an answer down the line. Thanks for watching!
but you can't *perform* it on any groovebox. Not live
@ that’s the crux though isn’t it? This thing will modify all the tracks to fit the new scale and you can just wing it with no prep. That’s pretty powerful in a live scenario👍🏼
@@MidlifeSynthesist Does the brain work with midi tracks? Can you use it when sequencing external gear? Thank you for this video.
@ don’t know yet that’s an awesome thing for me to test out! Thanks for the idea!
The brain was already in the OP-Z but I was just discussing the other day with a guy that had made a video “brain deep dive” if it is changed or not. I believe on the OP-Z you could use brain only by pressing 1 key (at least that is how I used it for it broke, I think) and here you clearly press multiple keys when you hit the G. (I think you try G and G + Bb and you get different results. ) so this really looks very promising. But you press an awful lot of white keys for a sequence that is already in white keys, would be interesting to see more combinations of white and black keys. For example, I wonder if C + Bb will go to C minor or C mixolydian? Hard to tell. I think I am going to buy it too, because I loved the OP-Z and although I can replicate this brain behavior for 90% in Hapax, Hapax is not an on the go machine.
...and let's not forget that OP Z can control and sequence lighting/video/photos and 3D Unity engine visuals.
Not there (yet) on the OP XY
Does the OP Z have anything resembling the brain function?
@@edtotman2952 Yes. The OP Z calls it the "Master" track. With the "M" on the track button.
If you connect the phone over Bluetooth to the OP Z then you have the feedback on the key and mode of the sequence and when transposing it shows you the applied key and mode as well.
Go Brain, Yeah. Thanx maan!
Lol! Thank you!
Ok you just made me want one…🎉
@@derrickhinman271 sorry I guess😅😜
Unless you're Jeremy from Red Means Recording. Foxes tend to have awesome cosmic powers like that. So the legends go.
100%!
I wonder what you sold to buy this.
Thanks for sharing your first thoughts on it, nice video! One question: Have you found out how to export your project into a DAW?
Thanks for watching! I’m trying to understand it slowly so I don’t overlook anything, so I haven’t gotten to exporting yet, but it is a big item on my to do checklist! See you soon!
@@MidlifeSynthesist Thanks for your reply, looking very much forward to your experience on how to do that 😊
You can’t..there’s a reason all the YT shills haven’t touched that topic because you can’t. I’m returning mine I got pass the honeymoon phase and this is not worth Over 2k.
@@terrorbytez6537😮😢
@@MidlifeSynthesist One of the big strengths of the OP-1 (Field) was reported to be the kind of commitment that went along with the creation process. Can you feel that this device still shares this strength, even though it is not a tape to record on but rather a sequence?
Your problem with not knowing where to go after the main loop & hook isn't a music theory problem but more of a lack skills in the composition. Check this dude out for more tips: www.youtube.com/@JamesonNathanJones
"Brain" is basically the same as "master" track on OP-Z
Is it for sure ? Or any improvements ?
Yeah, the OP-Z has this kind of global transpose, I don’t get how this Brain is different?
@@LudovicCoullet as far as I can tell, it is essentially the same thing as master on the Z. Differences so far: it’s better at auto detecting the scale/key, but also has a manual mode, unlike the Z. However, I am experiencing differences in behavior from the Z when using the tonality step component. Haven’t figured out yet if these are bugs or intentional changes.
Cool video!
Thanks so much! See you next time🙌🏻
man, your channel's changed a lot since I was last here (and I admit, I was subscribed at some point but then not anymore). I love everything about this video: the candidness, the lack of background music and other shticks, and your overall demeanour. I think you've found an antidote that's fit for an overly attention-grabbing platform that's getting tiresome at times. time to subscribe again.
Welcome back! I really appreciate your message my friend❤️
Cool, but what GAS mileage does this thing have?
Lol, not enough! Just getting started 🤘🏻
I’m still waiting for a replacement unit. Did not have luck with the TE lottery this time.
@@humankapital2000 🥲 hope they get one for you quickly!!
We never doubt You
Thanks my friend💪🏼 gonna keep it real🤘🏻
TE is known for making devices with intentional limitations. What are the purposeful limitations of the XY? Do you feel that they hamper or inspire you?
Hi! I haven’t hit any weird TE limitations per se yet, but I need more time with it. I absolutely know what you mean though and I’ll be sure to report them when I see them show up. Haven’t gotten there yet, but seems that exporting tracks might be the bottleneck. See you soon!
@MidlifeSynthesist Nice! I was actually curious if this might be a trend toward more fully featured instruments from TE.
Can you not do this with the OXI ONE?
Oxi One has a very similar feature but it makes other tracks follow a designated track. Haven’t tried it as a performance trick but now I definitely will! Thanks for watching!
@@MidlifeSynthesist Thanks man :)
The Brain transposition is pretty cool, but otherwise it seems like just a beefed-up OP-Z. I got mine used for about $350 a couple of years ago and it's still the most versatile, powerful, and fun instrument I own. Think I'll wait about a year or two and pick a used XY when the market is flooded. In the meantime the Z does the trick.
I’m hearing a lot that the Z has lots in common with this! Having never owned one, certainly feels like I missed out! Happy beatmaking and thanks for sharing!🙌🏻
I have the OP-1 and many TE products. I would never buy one again without hands on time before purchase. Great stuff but expensive and quirky. I like my TX-6 mixer and OB-4 the best.
Until now, the xy seems to be the most accesible one of the bunch, lots of known influences are apparent in the workflow! That said, totally agree you should try one first! It’s a huge investment 😅
As anyone else, I think it is a very interesting and GAS-inducing device but with a price point so massively inflated that it's really turning me off. Just for comparison, the novation circuit tracks can also do the transposition to different keys and modes, and that went on sale for almost 1/10th of the price of this device last week. Of course there are some things that the XY can do that the CT can't or can't do as immediate, but no way are they worth 2000 bucks to me.
That said, love your channel and would love to see more content of you creating music and playing around with it. Live vicariously through you. Much love.
Thanks so much for the kind words my friend! I plan to put it through its paces and compare it with my other gear, hope to see you there!!
Oh I thought you would find it funny that after your Dentist Spiel in the last episode about how people don’t invest in their teeth, I got a deep cleaning appointment.
Brain is the big feature. Super useful and innovative
It really is! I was expecting it to be wonky but it really feels like something unique!
As an op-z user I was waiting for a new and improved version, but after seeing all the reviews I came to the conclusion that there are not enough improvements for me to upgrade. XY is a very nice device with great potential, i'm sure. Here in Europe the OP-Z is 330 Euros now and it does a lot of stuff the OP-XY does. If TE would just open up the synth engine on the op-z, i wouldn't even watch this video :)
At 5 min mark you feel like you've been 'let in for the first time to a secret place' I think NDLR might have something to say about that with its chord sequencing
I’ve never used one! Thanks for the heads up!❤️🙌🏻
NLDR is awesome but this does so much more. You could string together lots of different things that already exist to achieve most (if not all) of what the xy does, but then you would not have everything in one small, highly inspiring, no set-up required complete solution. There’s a lot of value in one small box that does it all and has a battery that lasts for days.
Every new demo confirms me that this is just a way more expensive Electribe.
every good synth has one sound that is alone worth the price of the synth
Biggest "wow" factor comes to equation when you realize each synth has only 4 parameters and drum synth doesn't give you option to modify params separately for each voice in a kit. BTW: you can change scales on the fly on Deluge (Shift+Scale) ;)