The engine isn't really called Colombo, it's just the nickname it was called to distinguish it from the long-block V12 that succeeded (as the 330, 375 and 410, nicknamed Lampredi for their designer name, Aurelio Lampredi). For the same reason, the name of the engineer responsible for the engine caught up and Gioachinno Colombo's last name is how we now know his most famous creation.
Something a lot of modern car enthusiasts don't get, sadly. The only imperfection they'll tolerate, let alone support, is having bicycles on the road... every road.
Yeah say that to S20 Engine lol The Famous 2000GT-R Hakosuka had that engine. Especially the Racing built engine which was entirely new engine based on S20 but still S20
Turning the screws only affects the idle mix and idle speed. to properly tune one for performance, or to match any performance modifications, jets and power valves must be changed. None the less, you don't need a $5000 scanner, an expensive reprogrammable ECU, to do it. all you need is a screwdriver and a couple of small wrenches. You also don't have to have years of electronics training to be able to know understand what you are doing. I used to repair the new stuff for a living. and went through all the training. I still prefer tuning carbs to tuning electronic fuel injection. Carburetors are more predictable, and the advantages you get from fuel injection in power and performance are negligible, but the parts cost, number of parts that can fail are far more numerous with the latter.
My dad had a 1985 Chevy C10 pick-up with a 305 V8 and a Quadrajet carb. The intake was louder than the exhaust and the sound of the secondaries opening up at WOT is a sound I'll never forget.
You should go check out the Barry Grant Street Demon. Brand new carb design, but they put in enormous secondaries like the Thermoquads. Great cruising economy on the primaries, then a huge whomp when you hammer on it and open up those big secondaries :)
That is the signature sound of a quadrajet. A lot of people hate on them and brag on about the edelbrock they just picked up not realizing that they are basically the same thing. In reality the OEM carbs that came on cars in the 60's to 80's are cheap high CFM.
Those air cooled Tatra v8's sound absolutely gorgeous. Much respect to your next door neighbors for designing a bulletproof engine. So many excellently designed vehicles come from Czech/Slovak plants. Tatra trucks are great, Skodas are legendary in Rally, and Aero Vodochody makes what I consider the most reliable/trustworthy single engine jet, the L39 Albatros, ever made.
I´m from Czech Republic and it´s great to see and hear that two engines come from here (Škoda and Tatra) are included and even well pronounced. :) I wondered, when i´ve seen a lot of "eastern" cars in your vids, but now it makes sense :) I like your videos! :)
11:44 That Alfa Romeo, was my second car back then.It was a second generation 1983 Alfasud. It never let me down and had a tremendous handling, due to FWD and the underbody. The suspension was awesome and a very nice detail was the front disc brakes were mounted close to the gearbox. This ensured a much less weight that had to be dampened out by the front wheels. It drove almost like a gocart and one would have to fuck up really bad to rip this vehicle of the road. It was almost like it had glue on all four tires. Unfortunately, it had one major issue...the red plague, also called rust.
You missed the Q-jet. Particularly pain in the ass to make work, but when they do it is like the vintage varient of V-tec (they are a 2 barrels normal drive, when you step on it the secondaries open up (another 2 barrels for 4 barrels total)for an extra 100 HP it seems...also sound like the doors of hell opened up lol)
You want to hear something old and carbed that sounds surprisingly good. An old aircooled VW beetle converted to twin weber 2 barrels (and usually a bump in displacement, cam, compression bump, etc), a far cry from whistling lawn mower sound of a stock one.
Yeah, cause pulling a bowl off and brushing it out is a very complicated process... They are easier, and more difficult. Simpler, yet more complicated. Excluding common components: Efi, you have injectors. That's it. Controlled by computer that can somewhat tell you when there is a problem. Carbs have jets, boosters, power valves, floats. All kinda shit to go wrong. But most can be fixed to an extent to at least get you home. But the only wiring is in the ignition, maybe electronic choke. Not including stupid electronic carbs. Both have their advantages and disadvantages.
@Yard Sale Dale sounds like you don't use tools enough from that comment. give your hands another chance and you'll impress yourself how smart they can be. start with a single cab single cylinder bike as cheap as well as fun, you can never have too many toys or tools.
The SU carburetor is very unique. It has a needle & piston like a Mikuni that's vacuum operated behind a butterfly which opens from the throttle cable. What works really cool about this is when you open the butterfly the vacuum draws heavy on the jet before the piston opens, so you never get any lag, and it doesn't need an accelerator pump.
That's like a scooter car and some motorcycle carbs, it's a constant velocity, it requires engine vacuum to open the throttle, the butter fly just controls the vacuum , it basically only allows the throttle the engine can handle, great for daily driving not exactly a performance carb!
carburated engines do deffinitely sound amazing, my favorite is obviously Skoda 130 RS ( I wonder how many of the English native speakera were surprised by how it is pronounced correctly...) and each fuel injecting system has its up/downsize, but still: there is none with 100% efficiency
Another thing to note is that if you have electronic valve control... injection into a throttle body is apparently preferable! The other other upside is that it will also sound more like a carbureted engine. Check out the videos on the Koenigsegg freevalve tech... .its pretty impressive.
Even here in germany Skoda is pronounced differently, even in the TV advertisements. I don't know why, because it can be phonetically recreated with ease.
@@racketman2u induction makes more noise than people think I have an rsv aprilia top of airbox is removed and you seal to bottom of the tank induction noise is awesome
Carbureted Ford flathead V8s with their unique deep rumbling roar win rap out contests at car shows so consistently that other engines rarely have a chance. 80 year old technology can still win! LOL.
Flat plane or cross plane, I love the sound of a carburated V8. There's something about the inefficient fuel delivery and irregular firing sequence that is music to my ears. And you left out the Gen 1 Chevy Z28 with the cross ram intake and the Pontiac Ram Air IV.
My favourites were the BDA Escorts & Weber equipped Datsun 4's. Beautiful noise! Especially the Escorts at full noise! I used to tune 8V-71's in trucks. We had to sit on the intake elbow atop the supercharger & run the engine with no muffler. Again a lovely sound! I do wish those Tatra V8's were available here in Oz. I could have fun with one of those!
The story for the Lamborghini Miura was like super off the real events. Lamborghini owned a 250 GT Ferrari, and when he noticed the vehicle had numerous technical issues, he complained to Enzo Ferrari in person. This set off the dispute between the two exotic carmakers and was the primary reason behind Lamborghini's brave decision to start his own auto company. Thus the Lamborghini 350GTV (Turin autoshow one-off) and later the 350GT (production version) were born. The Miura came like 3-4 years later.
Cool video! Could you do a video about the over head cam Cosworth ford engines? BD, YB, DFV? And some of the applications and power outputs and racing histories? Maybe including some production cars that came with the motors that were used in racing?
Thank you Visio for such a wonderful video! The 4A-GE short stroke 1.6L toyota engine at 6:15 sounds terrifying. Wow! That thing seems like it is a full 100% race engine. But nothing sounds better than a V8.
I admit I'm crazy about carburetted engines' noise. Their warm growl has no comparison with the engines of today, you could really feel them getting "happier" as they warmed up. With that said, and I might be biased, the best sounding carburetted engine is the Ferrari Colombo V12 which isn't as rare as you said because instead of just the 6 twin-choke Webber from the 250 GTO as you showed, there were also versions with 3 4-barrel Webber carburettors on the 250 GT SWB, 250 California, and 250 GT Berlinetta Lusso or even with 3,3 litres as the 330 GTO, the 250 LM and 250 P. There's nothing carburetted on Earth that sounds that glorious! You migh argue a Ford 427 V8 or a Chevy 308 V8 sound more menacing (and were better options on this list than for instance the Alfa flat-6 or the BMW straight-6) but that's exactly why I love it so much: it's just glorious without the need of being ferocious. It sings without shouting. I waited until the end for you to have added the Ford srtaight-4 from the Escort RS Mk1 or the Alpine A110 1600S but to no avail... also you have to agree the Toyoa 2000GT sound better that that retro-fitted 4-banger, right? Last but not least, you do know the Miura wasn't Ferrucio's first model, right? There were the 350 GT and the 400 GT 2+2 before that... the Miura was premiered almost 15 years after that famous scuff with Enzo! Given that, keep up the good car videos!
My second car was a carbureted E12 525 and it sounded so good. But it had a weird issues that no one could figure out. 6 days out of the week it ran just fine but on the 7th it was like 90 out of the 150 bhp went out to pasture. And it would come on from out of nowhere. Pulled upto a red light with all 150 bhp and when it hit green i could barely get it moving It fired on all 6 but there was just no power there. Checked the automatic choke,tried all sorts of adjustments on fuel/air mix but to no avail. It was the damndest thing. But still,to this day it`s my favourite car. Or atleast the one i remember most fondly
I really miss my 1963 pushrodded 2.0 (bored) b18 Volvo. Dual sidedraft Mikuni PHH44 carbs, coupled with a 292° duration camshaft, ratio rockers, bigass valves, 10.2:1 compression ratio, etc... that was a fun engine coupled to a 4.56:1 rearend Dana type 30 LSD. 180-ish HP at rear wheels was fun in the 2,240 pound car. Beautiful sound up to 7,200RPM, and of course the in-gear-off-throttle sound at high revs was orgasmic (for a Volvo hahaha!)
I had the predecessor to the 4A-GE Toyota, which was the 2TC hemi 4 cyl. It was a pushrod engine and for 1600cc's they made good power up to about 8000 rpm when properly modified. I had 2 side draft Weber 40 DCOE's, high compression head, trick valve train, and a 4 into one header that was making around 190hp., yet was still very streetable.😉
Electric cars will never take over. Not enough resources and once the dogma about co2 is over, electric cars will dissapear again. Hydrogen and CNG will take over.
My Scimitars old Essex V6 used to sound awesome through its single weber twin-choke. That painfull induction route gave it a real guttural induction roar.
you show so many wonderful automobiles, in the this one and a previous episode of horizontally opposed engines you should display the VW opposed engines, there are many variations for 1200cc and 1600cc factory all the way up to 2332 with plenty of options from EFI, to the stock Slox to dual webber and so on. it is a beautiful soundtrack the predecessor to the modern Subaru Porsche and BRZ/FRS. maybe you could work in an air-cooled VW spotlight for one of your upcoming videos. love you content keep up the great work you put into this.
They go even bigger than a 2332. Imo a 2332 is the biggest engine you want in a street engine but the kinda stuff people build for racing is absolutely nuts. (my dad used to drag race a 66 bug with a 2332 running 11.9x)
The Ferrari V12 imagine tuning that thing, 6 twin throat webers, two distributors each has two sets of points too adjust, job for an EXPERT i think!! Nicest sounding engine i can think of has to be Ducati 996! Simply AWESOME!!
Awesome video! Love this one...but it makes me miss my El Camino :( Had a 355ci circle track engine with tunnel ram intake and dual 390 Holley double pumpers....talk about a pain to tune, with 2x four- corner adustments you had to swap alot of jets :) Well-tuned carbs can match or in some cases, exceed the power output of a fuel injection system. This is due to the constant fuel flow of the carb whereas the injectors only pulse the fuel once per cycle. But unless you have really deep pockets, driving a dual-carb V8 just isn't affordable anymore.
Currently working on a Volvo 740, preparing it to accept a 6.2 Detroit V8 and 4L60E with Rossler full manual controller. Should make all the right V8 noises while returning 35+mpg, best of both worlds :) You got anything on the go, Twinkie?
Ditto Ford's BDA.Taken out to 2 litre with a pair of 50 Webers or the other (Del Orto)ones you couldn"t miss the sound of an Escort coming out of the forest at at night.
I really love your videos they’re great to watch . Not sure if someone already pointed this out but the first Lamborghini was the 350GT not the Muira that came later . I had an Alfasud gold cloverleaf, it had an uprated 105bhp boxer in it though , I so miss that car . Might get another 😁
I loved the sound of Maserati's 4.9 liter V8 also. I had a '73 Bora with that engine. It really sounded fine! From idle all the way to redline and just loafing around.
Pretty sure it was basically the same engine, though - and still sounds pretty awesome. Not so sure about the myth - I've heard the same thing, but I've also heard that Enzo never refuted it. Either way, it's an interesting story - a little like why Ford took on Ferrari at Le Mans. :-)
aussiebloke609 wasn't the real reason something like a Ferrari engine builder got pissed off at Enzo and Lamborghini hired him? Or was that a myth too?
KSZ Razor If there was something Enzo Ferrari did better than cars, it was pissing their mates off... Nobody there could shine more than the capo di tutti capi. Amongst all of them, a man who worked at Ferrari, and later went to Lamborghini to create their first V12 - Giotto Bizarrini. Also, he told at the video the Miura was Lamborghini's first "supercar", which I agree - their first car, the 350 GTV (not GTO) was a prototype who couldn't go anywhere cause the V12 engine was ready after the Bertone's body, and when they tried to join them, they found it wouldn't fit... Their second car, the 350 GT, was exactly that, a grand tourer, not a dramatic machine like the Miura.
Agreed - the Muira was the first "supercar" from Lamborghini. Still, since this vid is about best-sounding carburetted engines...and the 350GT, while not so wild-sounding as the Muira, is still a pretty awesome sounding engine. PS: I'd forgotten that Bizarrini used to work for Ferrari - thanks for the reminder, mate. :-):-)
aussiebloke609 Bizarrini developed the 250 GTO in 1961 and left Ferrari before it started the production of this model - "The Night of the Long Knives".
VisioRacer: While I love all of your videos (especially any including the 4AGE), this one might be my favorite. Keep them coming and best to you ! Great information!
Lada engine is no joke. It just has really,really,REALLY SHITTY carburettor. The 1600cc gets to 100hp with just DCOE and upped compression. Add cams and new internals and you have 160-240hp depending on revs and tune. And because of low compression it takes Turbos pretty well. There's a thread about the 2101/2102 turbo engine. "200,4 hp and 225 Nm at 1,2 bar of boost" on stock internals from a 1200cc engine.
A carburetor is a much better method of fueling an engine. The atomization is much finer than fuel injection once the engine warms up. That's why there is zero improvement in gas mileage since fuel injection was invented. I've looked straight into many different carburetors and you cannot even see the fuel vapor, it's so finely atomized that there is no visible fuel leaving the Venturi throat of the carburetor. The only time you see liquid fuel is when the engine is cold, that's when carburetors are terrible since the fuel vapor turns into liquid droplets and runs as a liquid along the walls of the intake manifold, and it basically "washes" the lubricating oil off the cylinders causing increased cylinder wear. Fuel injected engines are better because they reduce cold start wear, by atomizing the fuel very good on a cold engine, that's why if you take apart a fuel injected engine there is still fresh crosshatch marks (honing marks from the original engine assembly) even after 170,000 miles. But in terms of peak efficiency, carburetors are perfectly good and can be made to vaporize the fuel so finely that you can literally double your gas mileage by simply heating the fuel in the carburetor to near boiling point to atomize it even further. Since most carburetors sit in the engine bay and don't have a circulating return based fuel system, the fuel is roasting hot. Thus carburetors actually deliver roasting hot fuel into the engine, which is very finely atomized. Roasting hot fuel burns much better than cool fuel. The future of fuel systems is a carburetor based fuel system, not fuel injection. The heated "vapor" carburetor patents have been withheld from the public because the patents were purchased by oil companies a long time ago. If you do some research you'll see that several people figured out how to get 50 mpg out of a large V8 engine in the 1970's, on a large 4000 pound car by using a heated carburetor. Having fuel injection is a very good way of controlling the variables, so there is no way to improve your gas mileage. On carburetor based engines you can easily modify them to run them on hydrogen, natural gas, acetylene, propane, or alcohol and you can adjust both the spark timing and fuel jetting with a soldering iron, a wrench and some drill bits. There's no need for any computers. Although it would be good to have a wideband air fuel mixture gauge. The only way I know of increasing gas mileage on an EFI engine is to switch to different fuel injectors with more holes, increase fuel pressure, remap the fuel mixture curve in the computer, increase the ignition timing by remapping the computer, change to a lower octane fuel (lower octane provides faster burning in most cases, at the risk of detonation). Or you can modify the engine engine by milling the cylinder head, removing the catalytic converter, or changing to higher compression pistons. They also sell thinner head gaskets which are called "MLS" multi-layered-steel that can raise compression. Note: The final way to increase fuel economy without any modifications to your engine is to put a Joe Cell on your engine. I improved my EFI engine gas mileage by 25% with no engine modifications and no computer modifications. Of course nobody believes it's possible so it stops many people from ever researching it. But as a mechanic, I can tell you that it does work. I have some Joe Cell videos on my channel.
I'm actually dieing, like literally deceased. I'm a ghost now. You got me fucked up thinking that a V8 is even capable of 50mpg, especially a carbureted one at that
Interesting choices. There are a lot of Mustangs and Corvettes that sound good too. Truly high-performance engines scream so really don't sound that good. Top fuelers sound pretty awesome if you are far enough away.
Toyota 4A-G! not 4A-GE cause the E means = Multi-point fuel injection and your wrong again, most people use EFI with intake trumpets in 4age ST/BT for fuel Economy, Tuning and Performance
Carburetors make more power I worked with carburetors most of my career I still own 1 bike and one truck with carbs modern fuels and emissions killed the carb.But to be able to rebuild and tune a carb is an old art fuel injection is easy to work on but in the 80's was the best time to learn the new systems knowing both makes life easy much like ignition systems
You are totaly false: the carbs are always minimum 5% less performing as a injection, because a carb= a air restriction who doest exist with injection...
where on earth do you get your numbers? there's no set "%" of lesser power, and how do carbs create a restriction that throttle bodies do not? injection provides reliability, and consistency, with the ability to fine tune MUCH more precisely than carbs... but at WOT on a dyno, i can promise you won't see "at least 5% less performance" as Carbs will often perform comparably to injection.... EFI's main benefit is part throttle response....
His percentage is just stupid, BUT carbs actually DO have more restriction. And this is of course due to how a carburettor actually works. To get in fuel, you change jets to work with whatever vacuum you have. With a TB or of course ITB you would never have the need for this vacuum restriction to help pull out the fuel from the jets. It´s simply just common sense and normal logic.
sorry, thats just not true. fi provides more accuracy in fuel delivery, and its more accurate through the entire rev range. you cant do that with a carb. 'but carbs give the engine more fuel cuz you can get bigger jets'. just like with fi you can get bigger injectors. ill grant you that carbs are nostalgic & can be fun, but a tuned fi engine will out-perform a tuned carb engine, everything else being equal.
i have a nissan cherry 1.5 GL from 1985 with double weber carburetor wich i made it on it myself. it originally was a single dellortho carburetor with 4 valves. it sounds great. whoaaap whoaaaap :D its amazing to listen to. and yess carburetor are a pain in the ass, you need a good mechanic to tune them, or need the much needed right equipment to tune them well, but once they are fine tuned. there is nothing better then a carburated engine. the sound, the smell of gasoline, its just great :D
Would have loved to hear my favorite carb at work, the Quadrojet 4 barrel. It had small primaries and the secondary's were buckets. It helped my 400hp 85' Chevy P/U get 19mph, with some playing included.
Raptor 450 Carbs are good only in vintage American muscles and diet for people doing some sport (lame pun) but I agree- in daily car injection is better. I've had in my golf 1.8 and that car was pretty fun because of that
As a biker I own solely carbed bikes I love the simplicity and extra character. Real round the world adventure with efi? No thanks. The sound of a screaming 600 on flat slides? Yes please.
"Can be pain in an ass"
Fucking dead 😂😂😂😂
first name surname he's trying at least 😂
What's wrong? 😉
VisioRacer can be a pain in the ass*
The engine isn't really called Colombo, it's just the nickname it was called to distinguish it from the long-block V12 that succeeded (as the 330, 375 and 410, nicknamed Lampredi for their designer name, Aurelio Lampredi). For the same reason, the name of the engineer responsible for the engine caught up and Gioachinno Colombo's last name is how we now know his most famous creation.
i fucking died aswell man, no hate tho, we all make mistakes
There is beauty in imperfection
nice comment
nonsense, the more attractive something is the more people want it
Something a lot of modern car enthusiasts don't get, sadly. The only imperfection they'll tolerate, let alone support, is having bicycles on the road... every road.
Tell that to my reflection
Because it has the potential to become perfection
Yamaha didn't leave, Nissan said the engine sucked so Yamaha took their design to Toyota creating the 2000GT, Nissan regretted this
Did they? Their new engine is awesome!
yes and no...L engine are MUCH better
Verbatim... They said, "your shit sucks, da fuck outa here bitches." So, Yamaha da fuck out there'd.
Yeah say that to S20 Engine lol The Famous 2000GT-R Hakosuka had that engine. Especially the Racing built engine which was entirely new engine based on S20 but still S20
Turning the screws only affects the idle mix and idle speed. to properly tune one for performance, or to match any performance modifications, jets and power valves must be changed. None the less, you don't need a $5000 scanner, an expensive reprogrammable ECU, to do it. all you need is a screwdriver and a couple of small wrenches. You also don't have to have years of electronics training to be able to know understand what you are doing. I used to repair the new stuff for a living. and went through all the training. I still prefer tuning carbs to tuning electronic fuel injection. Carburetors are more predictable, and the advantages you get from fuel injection in power and performance are negligible, but the parts cost, number of parts that can fail are far more numerous with the latter.
My dad had a 1985 Chevy C10 pick-up with a 305 V8 and a Quadrajet carb. The intake was louder than the exhaust and the sound of the secondaries opening up at WOT is a sound I'll never forget.
You should go check out the Barry Grant Street Demon. Brand new carb design, but they put in enormous secondaries like the Thermoquads. Great cruising economy on the primaries, then a huge whomp when you hammer on it and open up those big secondaries :)
That is the signature sound of a quadrajet. A lot of people hate on them and brag on about the edelbrock they just picked up not realizing that they are basically the same thing. In reality the OEM carbs that came on cars in the 60's to 80's are cheap high CFM.
Masayoshi got that same year 305 in my s10. Best sound ever at wot!
Masayoshi some quadrajets can get it pretty good
850 CFM out of the QuadraJets used on vans and trucks if you change the venturi angles.
Those air cooled Tatra v8's sound absolutely gorgeous. Much respect to your next door neighbors for designing a bulletproof engine. So many excellently designed vehicles come from Czech/Slovak plants. Tatra trucks are great, Skodas are legendary in Rally, and Aero Vodochody makes what I consider the most reliable/trustworthy single engine jet, the L39 Albatros, ever made.
Meh lol
It's so weird to hear Škoda pronounced right, after so many car videos.
I know the right pronunciation and the word actually comes from the Slovak/Czech vocabulary and I am Slovak. Makes sense, no? 🙂
I'm from Poland (only one step to Slovakia / Czech Republik), but we never say Škoda with accent, always like Skoda ;)
Škoda has the highest number of rally championships in 2.0l class
I´m from Czech Republic and it´s great to see and hear that two engines come from here (Škoda and Tatra) are included and even well pronounced. :) I wondered, when i´ve seen a lot of "eastern" cars in your vids, but now it makes sense :) I like your videos! :)
In Spanish it is pronounced just like in the video.
Me when driving fast
Woooohoooo
Me when someone else is driving fast
Slow down you're gonna hurt someone.
You don't have a license
Same here.
@@MilesPrower1992 that's what makes it more fun lmao
That's the way things go
Everybody that drives slower than me is a slowpoke.
Everybody that drives faster than me is a maniac.
11:44 That Alfa Romeo, was my second car back then.It was a second generation 1983 Alfasud. It never let me down and had a tremendous handling, due to FWD and the underbody. The suspension was awesome and a very nice detail was the front disc brakes were mounted close to the gearbox. This ensured a much less weight that had to be dampened out by the front wheels. It drove almost like a gocart and one would have to fuck up really bad to rip this vehicle of the road. It was almost like it had glue on all four tires.
Unfortunately, it had one major issue...the red plague, also called rust.
there's nothing better than my 20v 4ag on 8000 rpm!!!
👍👍👍
Quad throttle bodies on that, a bit silly to put carbs on it!
*Eurobeat Intensifies*
I think it is amazing how well the Nissan/Datsun L series engines sounded considering how popular and affordable those cars were.
You missed the Q-jet. Particularly pain in the ass to make work, but when they do it is like the vintage varient of V-tec (they are a 2 barrels normal drive, when you step on it the secondaries open up (another 2 barrels for 4 barrels total)for an extra 100 HP it seems...also sound like the doors of hell opened up lol)
You want to hear something old and carbed that sounds surprisingly good. An old aircooled VW beetle converted to twin weber 2 barrels (and usually a bump in displacement, cam, compression bump, etc), a far cry from whistling lawn mower sound of a stock one.
The Toyota corolla Sprinter AE92 4A-FC carburetored sounds absolutely awesome. It's very smooth like Jazz 😎
"Imperfect"? "Pain in the ass"? Carbureted engines are EASY to tune - just turn the screws.
Yeah, cause pulling a bowl off and brushing it out is a very complicated process... They are easier, and more difficult. Simpler, yet more complicated. Excluding common components: Efi, you have injectors. That's it. Controlled by computer that can somewhat tell you when there is a problem. Carbs have jets, boosters, power valves, floats. All kinda shit to go wrong. But most can be fixed to an extent to at least get you home. But the only wiring is in the ignition, maybe electronic choke. Not including stupid electronic carbs. Both have their advantages and disadvantages.
yup...... that is all they do .... '73 Lambo Espada 6 3v Webers twin rotors ......
Figger it out and turn some screws.
Just that simple.
@Yard Sale Dale sounds like you don't use tools enough from that comment. give your hands another chance and you'll impress yourself how smart they can be. start with a single cab single cylinder bike as cheap as well as fun, you can never have too many toys or tools.
@@diamonddog257 yea i tune my 8 carbs with a flat head and afr synchro
Now if you want to talk non-computerized fuel delivery with a barrel of headaches, try getting Hilborns to run on a street car. =D
Every classic high displacement v8 with carbs sounds amazing
The SU carburetor is very unique. It has a needle & piston like a Mikuni that's vacuum operated behind a butterfly which opens from the throttle cable. What works really cool about this is when you open the butterfly the vacuum draws heavy on the jet before the piston opens, so you never get any lag, and it doesn't need an accelerator pump.
That's like a scooter car and some motorcycle carbs, it's a constant velocity, it requires engine vacuum to open the throttle, the butter fly just controls the vacuum , it basically only allows the throttle the engine can handle, great for daily driving not exactly a performance carb!
Your English pronunciation is getting much better since your earlier voiceovers. I think you'll have it down very well in another year.
carburated engines do deffinitely sound amazing, my favorite is obviously Skoda 130 RS ( I wonder how many of the English native speakera were surprised by how it is pronounced correctly...)
and each fuel injecting system has its up/downsize, but still: there is none with 100% efficiency
Electronic injection is still far superior, its only at WOT there isn't much difference between it and tuned carbs.
That first one sounded like a bumblebee farting in a pepsi can!
Another thing to note is that if you have electronic valve control... injection into a throttle body is apparently preferable! The other other upside is that it will also sound more like a carbureted engine. Check out the videos on the Koenigsegg freevalve tech... .its pretty impressive.
Even here in germany Skoda is pronounced differently, even in the TV advertisements. I don't know why, because it can be phonetically recreated with ease.
They dont sound any different than fuel injected engines LOL. They are both normally aspirated.
3:53 best revving sound 🤩
I love the clean minimalistic look of carbureted motors.
You should have included the Ford 1.8 / 2.0 BDA using twin 50 DCOE Webers...
YES
Exactly what I was going to say. Their induction noise is awesome.
Saying that a carburettor is less complicated than EI is pure conjecture :D
the the 240z sound made me wet. So good.
One of the best sounding inline 6's
they sounded even better with triple weber or Dellorto side-draughts; the carbs make as much noise as the exhaust!
Aaaaaaa Supra pic Bros lol kj
@@racketman2u induction makes more noise than people think I have an rsv aprilia top of airbox is removed and you seal to bottom of the tank induction noise is awesome
20 years in the future, (and maybe even now) these sounds will be much cherished.
love the sound of a flathead v8!
Carbureted Ford flathead V8s with their unique deep rumbling roar win rap out contests at car shows so consistently that other engines rarely have a chance. 80 year old technology can still win! LOL.
Dude your videos are great, also not much youtubers respond to comments, but you do and that makes you cool)))
Thank you!
Missed the mk1 golf in your profile pic though! Sounds freakin amazing.
Rodhizzzle yeah its pretty amazing, I wish I could buy a golf mk1 and install a bodykit like that one it!
I've got a 2003 South African Golf MK1 standing in my driveway :) - Busy sanding down the bonnet.
Morne Coetzee I got a 2003 citi that i turned into an .:R-line clone running a carb(twin dellorto dhla) fed cross flow stroker. Makes me soo😊
The S20 from the Hakosuka should have been included. Best sounding carbureted engine of all time.
I like how you show the engines too and not just the cars now, channel is getting better man!
Flat plane or cross plane, I love the sound of a carburated V8. There's something about the inefficient fuel delivery and irregular firing sequence that is music to my ears.
And you left out the Gen 1 Chevy Z28 with the cross ram intake and the Pontiac Ram Air IV.
Maybe next time :)
An XU9J4 Peugeot engine (Mi16) on Dellorto side-draught carbs is probably the best I've heard. Absolutely magic
The skoda sounds awesome
So glad the 440 made this list although the 426 Hemi deserved to be up here too!!! Great list!
CARBURETTED ENGINES FTW!!! I LOVE THEM!!! NICE WORK BRO!!!
My favourites were the BDA Escorts & Weber equipped Datsun 4's. Beautiful noise! Especially the Escorts at full noise! I used to tune 8V-71's in trucks. We had to sit on the intake elbow atop the supercharger & run the engine with no muffler. Again a lovely sound! I do wish those Tatra V8's were available here in Oz. I could have fun with one of those!
8:38 ricers wet dream
XxslayerXx 666 😂😂👌
Made my day xD
so true
Twin fart cannons
i don't even
That 240Z though.
Sounds so good.
The L24 sounds so gooood ❤❤
The story for the Lamborghini Miura was like super off the real events.
Lamborghini owned a 250 GT Ferrari, and when he noticed the vehicle had numerous technical issues, he complained to Enzo Ferrari in person. This set off the dispute between the two exotic carmakers and was the primary reason behind Lamborghini's brave decision to start his own auto company. Thus the Lamborghini 350GTV (Turin autoshow one-off) and later the 350GT (production version) were born. The Miura came like 3-4 years later.
your english is getting better with each video bro keep it up👌👍✊👏🖐🖑🤘🖖
Not a fan of carburetors, but that bare engine almost at the end of the video with 2 valves per cylinder was so cool, thanks for uploading this.
when i see L series engine, i say my time its payed
great video
I had tripple webber carburetors on my L24 datsun 240c 150 rwhp it sounded amazing
Cool video!
Could you do a video about the over head cam Cosworth ford engines? BD, YB, DFV? And some of the applications and power outputs and racing histories? Maybe including some production cars that came with the motors that were used in racing?
carbureted engines are just plain beautiful.
l24 gave me goosebumps
Ford BDA with trumpets on wide open,part or trailing throttle has a sound that connects with your primal senses.
The original 3.5 litre Rover V8 sounds so sick on carbs...
Thank you Visio for such a wonderful video! The 4A-GE short stroke 1.6L toyota engine at 6:15 sounds terrifying. Wow! That thing seems like it is a full 100% race engine. But nothing sounds better than a V8.
I admit I'm crazy about carburetted engines' noise. Their warm growl has no comparison with the engines of today, you could really feel them getting "happier" as they warmed up. With that said, and I might be biased, the best sounding carburetted engine is the Ferrari Colombo V12 which isn't as rare as you said because instead of just the 6 twin-choke Webber from the 250 GTO as you showed, there were also versions with 3 4-barrel Webber carburettors on the 250 GT SWB, 250 California, and 250 GT Berlinetta Lusso or even with 3,3 litres as the 330 GTO, the 250 LM and 250 P. There's nothing carburetted on Earth that sounds that glorious! You migh argue a Ford 427 V8 or a Chevy 308 V8 sound more menacing (and were better options on this list than for instance the Alfa flat-6 or the BMW straight-6) but that's exactly why I love it so much: it's just glorious without the need of being ferocious. It sings without shouting.
I waited until the end for you to have added the Ford srtaight-4 from the Escort RS Mk1 or the Alpine A110 1600S but to no avail... also you have to agree the Toyoa 2000GT sound better that that retro-fitted 4-banger, right?
Last but not least, you do know the Miura wasn't Ferrucio's first model, right? There were the 350 GT and the 400 GT 2+2 before that... the Miura was premiered almost 15 years after that famous scuff with Enzo!
Given that, keep up the good car videos!
My second car was a carbureted E12 525 and it sounded so good. But it had a weird issues that no one could figure out.
6 days out of the week it ran just fine but on the 7th it was like 90 out of the 150 bhp went out to pasture. And it would come on from out of nowhere. Pulled upto a red light with all 150 bhp and when it hit green i could barely get it moving
It fired on all 6 but there was just no power there. Checked the automatic choke,tried all sorts of adjustments on fuel/air mix but to no avail. It was the damndest thing. But still,to this day it`s my favourite car. Or atleast the one i remember most fondly
John sounds like a failing oil pump
How about a big block chevy with a 4 barrel carb wide open throttle! That is the definition of sweet sounding engines!
I really miss my 1963 pushrodded 2.0 (bored) b18 Volvo. Dual sidedraft Mikuni PHH44 carbs, coupled with a 292° duration camshaft, ratio rockers, bigass valves, 10.2:1 compression ratio, etc... that was a fun engine coupled to a 4.56:1 rearend Dana type 30 LSD. 180-ish HP at rear wheels was fun in the 2,240 pound car. Beautiful sound up to 7,200RPM, and of course the in-gear-off-throttle sound at high revs was orgasmic (for a Volvo hahaha!)
My vote will always be for a bridgeport 12a running dcoe's
I had the predecessor to the 4A-GE Toyota, which was the 2TC hemi 4 cyl. It was a pushrod engine and for 1600cc's they made good power up to about 8000 rpm when properly modified. I had 2 side draft Weber 40 DCOE's, high compression head, trick valve train, and a 4 into one header that was making around 190hp., yet was still very streetable.😉
I will miss the sound of all motor, in the near future we will be driving eletric cars with tron sound
doubt it maybe in 60 years but there will still be gas and diesel engines
I'll put a 2 stroke sound in my future E-pieceofshit-car
Electric cars will never take over. Not enough resources and once the dogma about co2 is over, electric cars will dissapear again.
Hydrogen and CNG will take over.
@Nick
The most intelligent comment about e-shit cars I have ever read
My Scimitars old Essex V6 used to sound awesome through its single weber twin-choke. That painfull induction route gave it a real guttural induction roar.
Can you make a video of best OEM force induction sounds. Great channel🔝👍🏼
you show so many wonderful automobiles, in the this one and a previous episode of horizontally opposed engines you should display the VW opposed engines, there are many variations for 1200cc and 1600cc factory all the way up to 2332 with plenty of options from EFI, to the stock Slox to dual webber and so on. it is a beautiful soundtrack the predecessor to the modern Subaru Porsche and BRZ/FRS. maybe you could work in an air-cooled VW spotlight for one of your upcoming videos. love you content keep up the great work you put into this.
They go even bigger than a 2332. Imo a 2332 is the biggest engine you want in a street engine but the kinda stuff people build for racing is absolutely nuts. (my dad used to drag race a 66 bug with a 2332 running 11.9x)
9:46 I thought they had no legs
The Ferrari V12 imagine tuning that thing, 6 twin throat webers, two distributors each has two sets of points too adjust, job for an EXPERT i think!! Nicest sounding engine i can think of has to be Ducati 996! Simply AWESOME!!
Awesome video! Love this one...but it makes me miss my El Camino :( Had a 355ci circle track engine with tunnel ram intake and dual 390 Holley double pumpers....talk about a pain to tune, with 2x four- corner adustments you had to swap alot of jets :)
Well-tuned carbs can match or in some cases, exceed the power output of a fuel injection system. This is due to the constant fuel flow of the carb whereas the injectors only pulse the fuel once per cycle. But unless you have really deep pockets, driving a dual-carb V8 just isn't affordable anymore.
MovinMetal e Camino's are awesome what do you have now?
Currently working on a Volvo 740, preparing it to accept a 6.2 Detroit V8 and 4L60E with Rossler full manual controller. Should make all the right V8 noises while returning 35+mpg, best of both worlds :)
You got anything on the go, Twinkie?
ughhhh I've always wanted an El Camino.
THAT L24 IS MAGNIFICENT
Cant believe i made it through this list without seeing suzuki's SRAD engine
Ditto Ford's BDA.Taken out to 2 litre with a pair of 50 Webers or the other (Del Orto)ones you couldn"t miss the sound of an Escort coming out of the forest at at night.
I just saw the 4AGE in the list, I was just freaked out and gives me chills to really buy an AE86.
I really love your videos they’re great to watch . Not sure if someone already pointed this out but the first Lamborghini was the 350GT not the Muira that came later .
I had an Alfasud gold cloverleaf, it had an uprated 105bhp boxer in it though , I so miss that car . Might get another 😁
I loved the sound of Maserati's 4.9 liter V8 also. I had a '73 Bora with that engine. It really sounded fine! From idle all the way to redline and just loafing around.
"Can be pain in a ass" 😂
Never knew how cool those old Tatra V8 engines sounded. I want one.
What the ford 427 with the 8 webers like the ford gt40
God i love the Chrysler RB 440, always with great sound and fantastic performance!
Actually the first Lamborghini was the 350 GT not the Miura, and the whole story of Ferruccio being insulted by Ferrari is a myth.
Pretty sure it was basically the same engine, though - and still sounds pretty awesome. Not so sure about the myth - I've heard the same thing, but I've also heard that Enzo never refuted it. Either way, it's an interesting story - a little like why Ford took on Ferrari at Le Mans. :-)
aussiebloke609 wasn't the real reason something like a Ferrari engine builder got pissed off at Enzo and Lamborghini hired him? Or was that a myth too?
KSZ Razor If there was something Enzo Ferrari did better than cars, it was pissing their mates off... Nobody there could shine more than the capo di tutti capi. Amongst all of them, a man who worked at Ferrari, and later went to Lamborghini to create their first V12 - Giotto Bizarrini.
Also, he told at the video the Miura was Lamborghini's first "supercar", which I agree - their first car, the 350 GTV (not GTO) was a prototype who couldn't go anywhere cause the V12 engine was ready after the Bertone's body, and when they tried to join them, they found it wouldn't fit...
Their second car, the 350 GT, was exactly that, a grand tourer, not a dramatic machine like the Miura.
Agreed - the Muira was the first "supercar" from Lamborghini. Still, since this vid is about best-sounding carburetted engines...and the 350GT, while not so wild-sounding as the Muira, is still a pretty awesome sounding engine. PS: I'd forgotten that Bizarrini used to work for Ferrari - thanks for the reminder, mate. :-):-)
aussiebloke609 Bizarrini developed the 250 GTO in 1961 and left Ferrari before it started the production of this model - "The Night of the Long Knives".
VisioRacer: While I love all of your videos (especially any including the 4AGE), this one might be my favorite. Keep them coming and best to you ! Great information!
holy f**k your english improved a lot bro
Boy, that Tatra is a honey of an engine.
i cant believe they didnt add the rotary wankel engine...
A very overated engine imo.
@@brandondannys-menary3678 *underrated
Geez, the Datsun 240Z sounded like a V12 Ferrari or a 3.8 Jag. Amazing sound... I didn't know they sounded that good.
Miura was not the first Lambo car.
Correct but it was the first REAL super car and it defined that term.
Tractor first !!!
@@johnmoncrieff3034I'd argue that even if it fit the definition, that term wasn't in the public consciousness until the Countach came out.
i think we can agree that all carburated cars sound pretty good
where is Lada engine?🙄😂😂
Lada engine is no joke.
It just has really,really,REALLY SHITTY carburettor.
The 1600cc gets to 100hp with just DCOE and upped compression. Add cams and new internals and you have 160-240hp depending on revs and tune.
And because of low compression it takes Turbos pretty well. There's a thread about the 2101/2102 turbo engine.
"200,4 hp and 225 Nm at 1,2 bar of boost" on stock internals from a 1200cc engine.
UrkaSoulUfa lol, I just swapped a 2107 carburator to my 2101 Lada. Not to tune it though, I did it because my car was on fire recently.
Snoopy Pingas damn
Snoopy Pingas lol, what happened?
BEST_NOOB_BG it's Lada, baby, a lot of them in Russia were in the fire😂
Forgot the famous RR Merlin V12 (that has a carb !) The best !
10:02 I thought that sound was from the clapping girl
9:32 I just installed a Bosh Blue Coil to my old car, I am just amazed to see two on this Lamborghini Miura!
A carburetor is a much better method of fueling an engine. The atomization is much finer than fuel injection once the engine warms up. That's why there is zero improvement in gas mileage since fuel injection was invented. I've looked straight into many different carburetors and you cannot even see the fuel vapor, it's so finely atomized that there is no visible fuel leaving the Venturi throat of the carburetor.
The only time you see liquid fuel is when the engine is cold, that's when carburetors are terrible since the fuel vapor turns into liquid droplets and runs as a liquid along the walls of the intake manifold, and it basically "washes" the lubricating oil off the cylinders causing increased cylinder wear. Fuel injected engines are better because they reduce cold start wear, by atomizing the fuel very good on a cold engine, that's why if you take apart a fuel injected engine there is still fresh crosshatch marks (honing marks from the original engine assembly) even after 170,000 miles.
But in terms of peak efficiency, carburetors are perfectly good and can be made to vaporize the fuel so finely that you can literally double your gas mileage by simply heating the fuel in the carburetor to near boiling point to atomize it even further. Since most carburetors sit in the engine bay and don't have a circulating return based fuel system, the fuel is roasting hot. Thus carburetors actually deliver roasting hot fuel into the engine, which is very finely atomized. Roasting hot fuel burns much better than cool fuel. The future of fuel systems is a carburetor based fuel system, not fuel injection.
The heated "vapor" carburetor patents have been withheld from the public because the patents were purchased by oil companies a long time ago. If you do some research you'll see that several people figured out how to get 50 mpg out of a large V8 engine in the 1970's, on a large 4000 pound car by using a heated carburetor. Having fuel injection is a very good way of controlling the variables, so there is no way to improve your gas mileage.
On carburetor based engines you can easily modify them to run them on hydrogen, natural gas, acetylene, propane, or alcohol and you can adjust both the spark timing and fuel jetting with a soldering iron, a wrench and some drill bits. There's no need for any computers. Although it would be good to have a wideband air fuel mixture gauge.
The only way I know of increasing gas mileage on an EFI engine is to switch to different fuel injectors with more holes, increase fuel pressure, remap the fuel mixture curve in the computer, increase the ignition timing by remapping the computer, change to a lower octane fuel (lower octane provides faster burning in most cases, at the risk of detonation). Or you can modify the engine engine by milling the cylinder head, removing the catalytic converter, or changing to higher compression pistons. They also sell thinner head gaskets which are called "MLS" multi-layered-steel that can raise compression.
Note: The final way to increase fuel economy without any modifications to your engine is to put a Joe Cell on your engine. I improved my EFI engine gas mileage by 25% with no engine modifications and no computer modifications. Of course nobody believes it's possible so it stops many people from ever researching it. But as a mechanic, I can tell you that it does work. I have some Joe Cell videos on my channel.
I'm actually dieing, like literally deceased. I'm a ghost now. You got me fucked up thinking that a V8 is even capable of 50mpg, especially a carbureted one at that
Interesting choices. There are a lot of Mustangs and Corvettes that sound good too. Truly high-performance engines scream so really don't sound that good. Top fuelers sound pretty awesome if you are far enough away.
Toyota 4A-G! not 4A-GE cause the E means = Multi-point fuel injection
and your wrong again, most people use EFI with intake trumpets in 4age ST/BT for fuel Economy, Tuning and Performance
Judging by yer profile picture and name, Im tryna figure out if your dude or a women.
and cost wayyyyyy less than ITB's
I've legitimately never seen a carburetor on a 4a-ge
VisioRacer - I love the videos, man! Keep up the good work! 😄😄
I love fuel injection, but i hate all the wiring that has do to with engines, i like how carbed cars have far less wiring.
Did a motor swap on my car... took quite a while to find all the connectors to hook everything back up
Lovely little drift from 0:26 seconds in!!
Carburetors make more power I worked with carburetors most of my career I still own 1 bike and one truck with carbs modern fuels and emissions killed the carb.But to be able to rebuild and tune a carb
is an old art fuel injection is easy to work on but in the 80's was the best time to learn the new systems knowing both makes life easy much like ignition systems
You are totaly false: the carbs are always minimum 5% less performing as a injection, because a carb= a air restriction who doest exist with injection...
where on earth do you get your numbers? there's no set "%" of lesser power, and how do carbs create a restriction that throttle bodies do not?
injection provides reliability, and consistency, with the ability to fine tune MUCH more precisely than carbs... but at WOT on a dyno, i can promise you won't see "at least 5% less performance" as Carbs will often perform comparably to injection.... EFI's main benefit is part throttle response....
His percentage is just stupid, BUT carbs actually DO have more restriction. And this is of course due to how a carburettor actually works. To get in fuel, you change jets to work with whatever vacuum you have. With a TB or of course ITB you would never have the need for this vacuum restriction to help pull out the fuel from the jets. It´s simply just common sense and normal logic.
sorry, thats just not true. fi provides more accuracy in fuel delivery, and its more accurate through the entire rev range. you cant do that with a carb. 'but carbs give the engine more fuel cuz you can get bigger jets'. just like with fi you can get bigger injectors.
ill grant you that carbs are nostalgic & can be fun, but a tuned fi engine will out-perform a tuned carb engine, everything else being equal.
Carbs do, nicks garage dyno results on youtube prove it
i have a nissan cherry 1.5 GL from 1985 with double weber carburetor wich i made it on it myself. it originally was a single dellortho carburetor with 4 valves. it sounds great. whoaaap whoaaaap :D its amazing to listen to. and yess carburetor are a pain in the ass, you need a good mechanic to tune them, or need the much needed right equipment to tune them well, but once they are fine tuned. there is nothing better then a carburated engine. the sound, the smell of gasoline, its just great :D
Not Skoda, but _Škoda._
Shhkoda✔️🤷💙🍻
Love these videos man. Looking forward to more.
first comment ;) nice work visio keep up the good vids
I love the sound of the my White 2255 V8 tractor. It has a Caterpillar twin carburated 5.6 liter NA diesel V8 with about 200 horsepower.
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Visio racer ty jsi taky z česka?
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Would have loved to hear my favorite carb at work, the Quadrojet 4 barrel. It had small primaries and the secondary's were buckets. It helped my 400hp 85' Chevy P/U get 19mph, with some playing included.
400hp, 19mph? Good but I'd try out the other four gears too. 😁
I fucking hate carburetors, such a pain in the ass. I wish my snowblower had fuel injection, actually I wish everything was fuel injected.
Raptor 450 you just don't know how to tune
Trace Anthony with fuel injection, you set it and forget it. carbs have to be tuned quite regularily if you dont drive it everyday
Raptor 450 Carbs are good only in vintage American muscles and diet for people doing some sport (lame pun) but I agree- in daily car injection is better. I've had in my golf 1.8 and that car was pretty fun because of that
stfu, here eat a snickers
agreed... efi everywhere
As a biker I own solely carbed bikes I love the simplicity and extra character. Real round the world adventure with efi? No thanks. The sound of a screaming 600 on flat slides? Yes please.
I LOVE the old Saab 99
Brazilian people (like me) would say that the Chevrolet 250 in-line 6 and the Volkswagen AP turbo should be on this list. However, excellent video