For me, I started spending $130 CAD for one big offer on new characters, which gets them for me at four stars, and then once their event is done I usually have them at five stars. Now I am being asked to spend that money up front without knowing whether or not that will get them to five stars in time for that next step in the Captain Britain chain. The issue is zero transparency, zero accountability, and zero trust that they will make good on that final goal for me even if I spend $400 along the way.
That is an excellent comment. I very much appreciate you weighing in on this. Please keep the conversation going. Have you mentioned this in the player voice discord?
I spend $200-$250 a month and I'm pretty pissed to be honest. I buy all of the battle passes and 1 of each character at $50 and apparently that isn't enough money for them?
Yup looks like that. Maybe they are expecting people who $200-$250 per month to spend $300-$400. "Scopely's take- You are already spending 200-250 in our game. So what's another extra 50-100 more, isn't too much of an ask", Right !!!
What's up, bro!! Very insightful. Thank you for sharing this. Gives a great look into how people are approaching the game and how people in your situation are feeling. This is great feedback and I think a lot of people are in the same boat.
Great reply, I think the video hit on a great point. Krakens don't care about this, f2p don't care they're used to this treatment. Now, the dolphin/ whale tiers are getting a taste of what f2p have been feeling for years. I personally think this video should be more concerning to scopely than the usual outrage ones. This was a well thought out point that makes the majority of the bell curve of spending players consider stepping off the treadmill.
From what I'm seeing between all the spending tiers is that people in my spending range is in a wait and see mode right now. Krakens aren't really affected, but the light spenders who get the battle pass and maybe a little bit more are in a stop spending mode. Nobody is in a "I'm going to spend more". We really need to get more information on this.
Appreciate the kind words. The thing is I think they know it. I think they are rolling the dice and hoping to win even though there is a chance they loose. @SocalDC
They say this is targetted towards the light spenders. I typically just buy the passes and some 3 dollar offers if they are good but i fail to see how this encourages me to spend more.. tbh im more discouraged and inclined not to care at all
Great comment 👍🏿. I agree that this is meant to be for the light spenders I am not sure I agree with their definition of "light". I'm curious what kind of 3-dollar deals do you buy? What is usually in them?
I honestly think ppl are upset because of the price. You will buy the toons up to 4 stars and try to do well in their respective event and still not get 5 star. I can use myself as an example. I bought guardian 3 stars and im ranked in the top 3 of arena since Sd came out about a year ago. Im still about 40 shards short from getting my guardian up to 5 stars and i doubt I'll get him there with only 1 payout remaining. What if that was to happen with the shuri and hank pym. I would honestly quit the game. All that time and effort to come up a few shards short now i will have to buy an 30$usd offer to get the remaining shards for both not to mention the offers for CB once you get him unlocked. That's the real reason ppl that spend are upset
This is a very valid concern and an important talking point. Please make sure to share it in the player voice discord if you have not already. Very well said this is the type of communication that is needed.
Been waiting for this video. Knew you would have a good take. Your approach to the game and life in general is something more people should consider adopting
Bro how are things going!! Glad you enjoyed it I was thinking this might not go well 😅. But the conversation is going well and people are giving really good answers. Glad to hear from you, man.
This is an interesting video! The idea of a mobile game in theory is something you play when you have a spare 5min, on the toilet or in the morning during breakfast, at the doctors etc etc. That is possible, but game modes like blitz and making it so you have to log in at certain times to claim energy means that Scofily manipulates players to log in and play to an extend that psychologically fomo is created. If they really cared about players they could get rid of the game modes that don’t mean anything like blitz. Then make content that is challenging but can be accessed over 24hours, allowing players to play when they can and want to, not requiring logging on at different times of the day to claim energy etc. Steps have been taken, like wars 19 attacks at the start but far more can be changed.
I do have to respectfully disagree. The dark dimension characters once they’re released aren’t vaulted. Yes, big spenders get them first but I control my account and when I can obtain them. With captain Britain, scopley said they’re vaulting him. The only characters we’ve seen this with are ZIM and Zuggs. ZIM took a year to be farmable which is approximately when characters aren’t useful anymore. That’s a fundamental shift to character release methods for MSF.
Hey, man, it's okay. I'm glad you have a different point of view. Nothing wrong with that at all We. Encourage it, we want to hear More. That's the only way things get better is if we get all the different mindsets and ideas on the table. I wanna hear More. Do you think if Capt. Britain is extended out to the year mark He'll be invalid. How about the six-month mark?
I think if it was like the previous legendaries, somewhere in the 3-4 month range, it’s a nice balance. Spenders still get exclusivity but f2p gets him and get some use out of him. 6 months might be pushing that limit. But I do agree with you, I think a lot of people mad we’re looking for a reason to quit.
I too buy the 3 star unlock for everyone that comes out. Being playing for almost 2 years and spend close to a 500$USD monthly. Its seems like the company is trying to destroy their own game. Someone once said once you start saying price that makes no sense something big is coming. We saw it when they scoply was about to change hands last year. It might be a last ditch effort to cash in on something before their next move. The fact they announced professor x almost a year before he's coming to the games makes me think that after hes released they might start shutting down servers
Eww, I hope that is not the case. Again this is great information. Starting to see another pain Point emerging from the discussion. People who spend in the way you mentioned won't be rewarded that sounds very frustrating. I can't imagine that being asked for another 100$ feels good at all. Thank you for sharing and keeping the conversation going. I'm learning a lot from you.
The reason this was a dealbreaker for me was because of the precedent it sets. There's nothing stopping them from doing this with a meta arena or raid team to further divide the spenders/non spenders. I'm not sticking around for that. For reference, I was a highly engaged player (top 20 in arena, incursion 2.3 and spotlight 1.2, all alpha flight g18/lvl100 etc). I don't spend on MSF because scopely's valuation of their product is laughable, though I do spend on other games so it's not like they couldn't have made me a customer over the years. They completely removed player agency and my chance to compete, which subsequently removed my desire to play the game.
Hey man what you are saying is 100 % real. Thanks a million for your comments. I Think other people are feeling the same way. Can I ask what other games you play that you have spent on?
Ouch, no one wants to be bled dry. Can I ask what are you spending on? Characters? Help me understand, please. Is the additional 50 to 100 to get the 5-star, Captain Britain, or something else?
@@gideonxl660 Personally, I dont spend anymore. Last time I brought something in this game it was 2.5 yrs ago. I started this game around Q1(Mid march, I hope) of 2020 and my cousin joined me around July 2020. At that time we both use to spend around $20-$25 per month. And I stopped spending around Sep-Oct 2021. And due to COVID & life he took 1.5yrs break from the game, then he came back. Now he is almost spending $200-$300 per month now. And he is always been with a Top:5-10 War/raid alliance. And I have always been in a Top 20-30 raid alliance(At war we rank 251-300). Regarding that additional $50-$100, it was something my Cousin said when we were discussing about this 5-Star unlock being the new norm.
@umeshu2407 Thanks, man. Story and context added so much more to the experience. These real-life testimonies help to demonstrate what is happening as opposed to folks who just say Scopley sucks!! Again I very much appreciate the additional detail.
Awesome video and message Gideon. I feel you, and I understand. Whatever happens, at the end of the day everyone has their life, their hobbies and their priorities. We all have to learn to live with that and respect that. Peace bro.
I finally walked away. I let my alliance know, and it's been two days since I uninstalled. I knew it had become an addiction, but I didn't realize how much so. I literally catered my days around free energy and store refreshes.. I'm free now. I only ever purchased strike passes that involved mutant characters or teams, by the way.
I got sent this video by Old Timey Gaming and you’ve spoken a perspective I never thought about and I love that. Given me a lot to think about, but this video needs to be sent further and seen by more💯
Hey Forge, as someone who falls in that moderate spender category, I don’t want to stop playing, and won’t, but am annoyed at this, more because I feel forced to spend, rather than having the option, of that makes sens
Lol so the Forge thing is staying, I like it!! 👍🏿 No man, I get what you're saying. 100%, this is great information. There's a lot of different people. A lot of different perspectives. And we definitely want to draw as much of that stuff out as possible. Any thoughts on how things like this could be made better in the future?
@@gideonxl660 well until you stop sounding like him anyway haha, personally I think if he was more like the zombies, a 2 star unlock for ftp, so they can have him, and not required for anything, like future legendaries etc, just like a true luxury toon, that if you pay,he will help hugely in all game modes, but if you don’t, it doesn’t hurt your future progression, also just plug and play and not part of any team, I think even if that toon was fully paywalled, it would be ok, but it’s the future requirements, making you feel like your completely forced, which I don’t like, I was going to buy them anyway, but now it’s had the opposite effect
Maaan I had to subscribe and hit the notification bell on this one. I feel like everyone in the MSF community need to hear this. Some alliance can do more harm than good. I had to remind myself that what scopely is doing is nothing new and plenty of other companies do the same. Maybe it's time to walk away or just not give into fomo 🤔
Appreciate you bro 🙏🏿. We definitely want to make sure we're in the right spot. People complain sometimes and say they want us to be in an alliance. We're all the same. And that's a good thing. In my opinion, then you're not getting pressured to do stuff you don't want to do.
I quit the game 3 years ago, and it positively changed my life. MSF changes/evolves so much and so quickly, you can't afford it. You feel the need to be with a good alliance and to feel competitive, but it's not worth it. I was a medium spender but racked up max credit card debt. And I had no other choice but to get out from under it.
My alliance is breaking up this weekend because we’re too tired and don’t want to login every day anymore. I don’t blame them but they’re also the people who push to be more active and get angry when people don’t push as hard.
Hey man thanks for sharing this. I know it can cause stress. If you don't want to play anymore or are not as competitive that's OK. It's summertime go have fun. How many of your alliance leaving?
@@gideonxl660at least 6. Scopely keeps pushing and at some point, it’s just too much for people. It always happens and will always happen to games when have alliance events.
The game is boring right now. There are no new game modes. It's just a daily repetition that people have grown tired of. We get nothing new except more expensive characters pushed by frustration marketing and fomo. People are tired of this stale game.
@@gideonxl660 The character pricing is never really going to be a problem because krakens and whales are going to spend no matter what. The biggest problem is the boring daily repetition gameplay. Nothing is new. Same boring
@@gideonxl660 Sorry. My previous answer got cut off. I was saying it's the same boring backgrounds. No new content. Where is battle world. Events are not really events. You just play the game as normal for milestone points. No regular tower mode or pocket dimension to give us some different content to play. It's just boring.
The players who buy the character unlock offers are paying to keep up. Free to play and pass spenders are content with where they're at in the game. This new development will make it difficult for the players used to keeping up to keep up unless Shuri and Pym are cheaper offers than usual releases. That's why the mid-tier spenders are pissed. And the problem with this new release method is the ripple effect it has. Content that requires Illuminati will be scaled with Captain Britain in mind, not Iron Man. CC will suck for anyone who doesn't have CB. The legendary this team will be required for will be acquired at a significantly lower level than those who don't have CB. The lower tier legendary will impact play going forward from there. Everyone just looking at this as a singular pain point aren't looking at the longer term impact and how this will create a two tier game system. This isn't just Kraken vs. F2P as those two types of players don't interact in this game. CB will affect the middle types of players. The players who spend some like on passes and some of the value offers interact with the players who buy initial offers but don't max them on day one so CB will create a schism between them.
Bottom line. This effects Krakens none, they already spend this. Give them a little exclusivity. F2p and cheap to play, dont like it, but as you said, it wont break them This is full aimed at the $200-300 a month players, aimed to push them to $500+ a month. I think too many Krakens (Taco, Beta, ect) are calling it quits or going casual, so they need to replenish the ranks
F2p I picked the game up to take mind off of why I was in a cemo hospital with my mom dropped the game for awhile came back and I'm always going to be a f2p because I've never read a happy review i love marvel i hope like so many people that they give a few og characters some love you guys who spend money still destroy me
Thank you for sharing your story. How is your health at present? Don't worry about the money this game can be very expensive just keep having fun. (I don't spend much money)
Your numbers are slightly wrong. The most you would need to spend on a character to get 5 star would be 150. $100 for 180 shards, $50 for 100 shards. Youll be short 30 shards but that's obtainable in the release event. Really you could get away with just the $100 offer. For example i got guardian to 4-star (180 shards) from nothing. I just wanted to point out that the #'s were inflated by 50-100% Great video bro. Keep fighting the good fight
Right but that's times 2 because of Hank pym either way. People discuss the old legendary method of star requirements but you could get a 3 star plain and get them to 5 by the time the legendary event rolled around. We would even have a little time to farm those characters before that event. Just cut out the extra and charge more for Captain Britain to what they desire instead of this convoluted way.
@@danielharris-jw6xu i pointed that out to someone the other day. Ppl complained so much about the original legendary releases but now we have this. They have to justify charging so much for Britain somehow. I think it's really scummy that they chose this character to do this to. How many British people play the game and have been waiting on cap Britain to only find out they have to pay extra for him
This is an interesting video! The idea of a mobile game in theory is something you play when you have a spare 5min, on the toilet or in the morning during breakfast, at the doctors etc etc. That is possible, but game modes like blitz and making it so you have to log in at certain times to claim energy means that Scofily manipulates players to log in and play to an extend that psychologically fomo is created. If they really cared about players they could get rid of the game modes that don’t mean anything like blitz. Then make content that is challenging but can be accessed over 24hours, allowing players to play when they can and want to, not requiring logging on at different times of the day to claim energy etc. Steps have been taken, like wars 19 attacks at the start but far more can be changed.
This is an interesting video! The idea of a mobile game in theory is something you play when you have a spare 5min, on the toilet or in the morning during breakfast, at the doctors etc etc. That is possible, but game modes like blitz and making it so you have to log in at certain times to claim energy means that Scofily manipulates players to log in and play to an extend that psychologically fomo is created. If they really cared about players they could get rid of the game modes that don’t mean anything like blitz. Then make content that is challenging but can be accessed over 24hours, allowing players to play when they can and want to, not requiring logging on at different times of the day to claim energy etc. Steps have been taken, like wars 19 attacks at the start but far more can be changed.
@AndrewNeal-h9o I agree with you in many ways. But I think that those 5 minute games. There's definitely games like that out there, but they're not really designed to make money and in the information age that we live in now everybody has a phone with them. So like you said, they're trying to get us to have these habits. I'm definitely in favor of events that last multiple days. That way, people can do pieces of it as they see fit.
This is an interesting video! The idea of a mobile game in theory is something you play when you have a spare 5min, on the toilet or in the morning during breakfast, at the doctors etc etc. That is possible, but game modes like blitz and making it so you have to log in at certain times to claim energy means that Scofily manipulates players to log in and play to an extend that psychologically fomo is created. If they really cared about players they could get rid of the game modes that don’t mean anything like blitz. Then make content that is challenging but can be accessed over 24hours, allowing players to play when they can and want to, not requiring logging on at different times of the day to claim energy etc. Steps have been taken, like wars 19 attacks at the start but far more can be changed.
This is an interesting video! The idea of a mobile game in theory is something you play when you have a spare 5min, on the toilet or in the morning during breakfast, at the doctors etc etc. That is possible, but game modes like blitz and making it so you have to log in at certain times to claim energy means that Scofily manipulates players to log in and play to an extend that psychologically fomo is created. If they really cared about players they could get rid of the game modes that don’t mean anything like blitz. Then make content that is challenging but can be accessed over 24hours, allowing players to play when they can and want to, not requiring logging on at different times of the day to claim energy etc. Steps have been taken, like wars 19 attacks at the start but far more can be changed.
Excellent comment man keep them coming. I do think in the age that we are now since everybody has phones, And carries them with them. 24 hours a day a lot of game companies don't want to be like the old-school Candy Crush. Or Clash of Clans, where you do 3 to 5 minutes of play. They want to create habits for you to log in that help you to keep playing. I'm a fan of the more marathon play Style. I want events that last 3 days a week. 2 weeks so you can go at them. When you want when you have time I would like more of that type of gameplay. Do you have any thoughts on that? What would that Game mode or game modes be like?
For me, I started spending $130 CAD for one big offer on new characters, which gets them for me at four stars, and then once their event is done I usually have them at five stars.
Now I am being asked to spend that money up front without knowing whether or not that will get them to five stars in time for that next step in the Captain Britain chain. The issue is zero transparency, zero accountability, and zero trust that they will make good on that final goal for me even if I spend $400 along the way.
That is an excellent comment. I very much appreciate you weighing in on this. Please keep the conversation going. Have you mentioned this in the player voice discord?
I spend $200-$250 a month and I'm pretty pissed to be honest. I buy all of the battle passes and 1 of each character at $50 and apparently that isn't enough money for them?
Yup looks like that. Maybe they are expecting people who $200-$250 per month to spend $300-$400.
"Scopely's take- You are already spending 200-250 in our game. So what's another extra 50-100 more, isn't too much of an ask", Right !!!
What's up, bro!! Very insightful. Thank you for sharing this. Gives a great look into how people are approaching the game and how people in your situation are feeling. This is great feedback and I think a lot of people are in the same boat.
Great reply, I think the video hit on a great point. Krakens don't care about this, f2p don't care they're used to this treatment. Now, the dolphin/ whale tiers are getting a taste of what f2p have been feeling for years.
I personally think this video should be more concerning to scopely than the usual outrage ones. This was a well thought out point that makes the majority of the bell curve of spending players consider stepping off the treadmill.
From what I'm seeing between all the spending tiers is that people in my spending range is in a wait and see mode right now. Krakens aren't really affected, but the light spenders who get the battle pass and maybe a little bit more are in a stop spending mode. Nobody is in a "I'm going to spend more". We really need to get more information on this.
Appreciate the kind words. The thing is I think they know it. I think they are rolling the dice and hoping to win even though there is a chance they loose. @SocalDC
They say this is targetted towards the light spenders. I typically just buy the passes and some 3 dollar offers if they are good but i fail to see how this encourages me to spend more.. tbh im more discouraged and inclined not to care at all
Great comment 👍🏿. I agree that this is meant to be for the light spenders I am not sure I agree with their definition of "light". I'm curious what kind of 3-dollar deals do you buy? What is usually in them?
I think this is the best take I’ve seen amongst the content creators. Well said.
Appreciate you bro 🙏🏿
I honestly think ppl are upset because of the price. You will buy the toons up to 4 stars and try to do well in their respective event and still not get 5 star. I can use myself as an example. I bought guardian 3 stars and im ranked in the top 3 of arena since Sd came out about a year ago. Im still about 40 shards short from getting my guardian up to 5 stars and i doubt I'll get him there with only 1 payout remaining. What if that was to happen with the shuri and hank pym. I would honestly quit the game. All that time and effort to come up a few shards short now i will have to buy an 30$usd offer to get the remaining shards for both not to mention the offers for CB once you get him unlocked. That's the real reason ppl that spend are upset
This is a very valid concern and an important talking point. Please make sure to share it in the player voice discord if you have not already. Very well said this is the type of communication that is needed.
Been waiting for this video. Knew you would have a good take. Your approach to the game and life in general is something more people should consider adopting
Bro how are things going!! Glad you enjoyed it I was thinking this might not go well 😅. But the conversation is going well and people are giving really good answers. Glad to hear from you, man.
@@gideonxl660 A lot of end gamers are pretty mad and they have their reasons but its good to get other perspective's and opinions
100% agree folks are not happy. But this conversation has been really good. Learning alot about what is actually on people's mind.
This is an interesting video! The idea of a mobile game in theory is something you play when you have a spare 5min, on the toilet or in the morning during breakfast, at the doctors etc etc. That is possible, but game modes like blitz and making it so you have to log in at certain times to claim energy means that Scofily manipulates players to log in and play to an extend that psychologically fomo is created. If they really cared about players they could get rid of the game modes that don’t mean anything like blitz. Then make content that is challenging but can be accessed over 24hours, allowing players to play when they can and want to, not requiring logging on at different times of the day to claim energy etc. Steps have been taken, like wars 19 attacks at the start but far more can be changed.
Thanks
I do have to respectfully disagree. The dark dimension characters once they’re released aren’t vaulted. Yes, big spenders get them first but I control my account and when I can obtain them.
With captain Britain, scopley said they’re vaulting him. The only characters we’ve seen this with are ZIM and Zuggs. ZIM took a year to be farmable which is approximately when characters aren’t useful anymore. That’s a fundamental shift to character release methods for MSF.
Hey, man, it's okay. I'm glad you have a different point of view. Nothing wrong with that at all We. Encourage it, we want to hear More. That's the only way things get better is if we get all the different mindsets and ideas on the table. I wanna hear More. Do you think if Capt. Britain is extended out to the year mark He'll be invalid. How about the six-month mark?
I think if it was like the previous legendaries, somewhere in the 3-4 month range, it’s a nice balance. Spenders still get exclusivity but f2p gets him and get some use out of him. 6 months might be pushing that limit.
But I do agree with you, I think a lot of people mad we’re looking for a reason to quit.
And that's 100% OK. Even if people take a break for the summer it's a great time to do something else.
I think the fact that one thousand dollars a year is considered a light spender is also a problem.
Great point. I only spend 20 a month but I guess 20 a week still counts.
I too buy the 3 star unlock for everyone that comes out. Being playing for almost 2 years and spend close to a 500$USD monthly. Its seems like the company is trying to destroy their own game. Someone once said once you start saying price that makes no sense something big is coming. We saw it when they scoply was about to change hands last year. It might be a last ditch effort to cash in on something before their next move. The fact they announced professor x almost a year before he's coming to the games makes me think that after hes released they might start shutting down servers
I heard the same statement, when Dorm's blog was released.
Eww, I hope that is not the case. Again this is great information. Starting to see another pain Point emerging from the discussion. People who spend in the way you mentioned won't be rewarded that sounds very frustrating. I can't imagine that being asked for another 100$ feels good at all. Thank you for sharing and keeping the conversation going. I'm learning a lot from you.
The reason this was a dealbreaker for me was because of the precedent it sets. There's nothing stopping them from doing this with a meta arena or raid team to further divide the spenders/non spenders. I'm not sticking around for that.
For reference, I was a highly engaged player (top 20 in arena, incursion 2.3 and spotlight 1.2, all alpha flight g18/lvl100 etc). I don't spend on MSF because scopely's valuation of their product is laughable, though I do spend on other games so it's not like they couldn't have made me a customer over the years.
They completely removed player agency and my chance to compete, which subsequently removed my desire to play the game.
Hey man what you are saying is 100 % real. Thanks a million for your comments. I Think other people are feeling the same way.
Can I ask what other games you play that you have spent on?
absolutely! I buy the passes in marvel snap as they're priced decently, as well as offers in a mobile game called Mythic Heroes
Outstanding thanks for the response.
Scopely's take- "You are already spending $200-$250 in our game. So what's another extra $50-$100 more, isn't too much of an ask", Right !!!
Ouch, no one wants to be bled dry. Can I ask what are you spending on? Characters? Help me understand, please. Is the additional 50 to 100 to get the 5-star, Captain Britain, or something else?
@@gideonxl660 Personally, I dont spend anymore. Last time I brought something in this game it was 2.5 yrs ago.
I started this game around Q1(Mid march, I hope) of 2020 and my cousin joined me around July 2020. At that time we both use to spend around $20-$25 per month. And I stopped spending around Sep-Oct 2021.
And due to COVID & life he took 1.5yrs break from the game, then he came back.
Now he is almost spending $200-$300 per month now. And he is always been with a Top:5-10 War/raid alliance.
And I have always been in a Top 20-30 raid alliance(At war we rank 251-300).
Regarding that additional $50-$100, it was something my Cousin said when we were discussing about this 5-Star unlock being the new norm.
@umeshu2407 Thanks, man. Story and context added so much more to the experience. These real-life testimonies help to demonstrate what is happening as opposed to folks who just say Scopley sucks!! Again I very much appreciate the additional detail.
Awesome video and message Gideon. I feel you, and I understand. Whatever happens, at the end of the day everyone has their life, their hobbies and their priorities. We all have to learn to live with that and respect that. Peace bro.
Appreciate you bro 100% keep being you!!
I finally walked away. I let my alliance know, and it's been two days since I uninstalled. I knew it had become an addiction, but I didn't realize how much so. I literally catered my days around free energy and store refreshes.. I'm free now.
I only ever purchased strike passes that involved mutant characters or teams, by the way.
Amen, you won have fun bro. Go enjoy life. Get into some new stuff. Your name and avatar are outstanding!!!
@@gideonxl660 Lol. Thx bro.
I got sent this video by Old Timey Gaming and you’ve spoken a perspective I never thought about and I love that. Given me a lot to think about, but this video needs to be sent further and seen by more💯
Old Timey is Legit!! Thanks for giving it a watch. Are you guys in the same alliance?
@@gideonxl660yea we’re both in the alliance with updog
That's Kool. I stopped by the stream the other day, watching you guys playing crucible together was pretty awesome.
Hey Forge, as someone who falls in that moderate spender category, I don’t want to stop playing, and won’t, but am annoyed at this, more because I feel forced to spend, rather than having the option, of that makes sens
Lol so the Forge thing is staying, I like it!! 👍🏿 No man, I get what you're saying. 100%, this is great information. There's a lot of different people. A lot of different perspectives. And we definitely want to draw as much of that stuff out as possible. Any thoughts on how things like this could be made better in the future?
@@gideonxl660 well until you stop sounding like him anyway haha, personally I think if he was more like the zombies, a 2 star unlock for ftp, so they can have him, and not required for anything, like future legendaries etc, just like a true luxury toon, that if you pay,he will help hugely in all game modes, but if you don’t, it doesn’t hurt your future progression, also just plug and play and not part of any team, I think even if that toon was fully paywalled, it would be ok, but it’s the future requirements, making you feel like your completely forced, which I don’t like, I was going to buy them anyway, but now it’s had the opposite effect
I think that is a very valid point. People would probably be better if he was more luxury-based. We may find out that is the case anyway
Great video!!
Appreciate you bro, thanks for the kind words.
Maaan I had to subscribe and hit the notification bell on this one. I feel like everyone in the MSF community need to hear this. Some alliance can do more harm than good. I had to remind myself that what scopely is doing is nothing new and plenty of other companies do the same. Maybe it's time to walk away or just not give into fomo 🤔
Appreciate you bro 🙏🏿. We definitely want to make sure we're in the right spot. People complain sometimes and say they want us to be in an alliance. We're all the same. And that's a good thing. In my opinion, then you're not getting pressured to do stuff you don't want to do.
True statements here. Great vid
Thanks for the kind words 👍🏿
I quit the game 3 years ago, and it positively changed my life. MSF changes/evolves so much and so quickly, you can't afford it. You feel the need to be with a good alliance and to feel competitive, but it's not worth it. I was a medium spender but racked up max credit card debt. And I had no other choice but to get out from under it.
Hey, man. Thanks for sharing your story. You one hundred percent, did the right thing.Keep enjoying life bro.
First video of yours I have ever watched. Glad I did. You are totally right. Real life first. Thank you!
Thanks a million for taking the time to watch and comment. Very much appreciated 👏🏾.
Very grounded in reality. Gonna sub to your channel.
Appreciate you bro 🙏🏿. I like your avatar 💯
My alliance is breaking up this weekend because we’re too tired and don’t want to login every day anymore. I don’t blame them but they’re also the people who push to be more active and get angry when people don’t push as hard.
Hey man thanks for sharing this. I know it can cause stress. If you don't want to play anymore or are not as competitive that's OK. It's summertime go have fun. How many of your alliance leaving?
@@gideonxl660at least 6. Scopely keeps pushing and at some point, it’s just too much for people. It always happens and will always happen to games when have alliance events.
@TheWhiteRabbit-my8eh wow man that is a big chunk. I'm sorry you all are experiencing that. Make sure you enjoy whatever comes next.
The game is boring right now. There are no new game modes. It's just a daily repetition that people have grown tired of. We get nothing new except more expensive characters pushed by frustration marketing and fomo. People are tired of this stale game.
I can see that for sure. What do you think is more of a problem the character price or the repeating gameplay?
@@gideonxl660 The character pricing is never really going to be a problem because krakens and whales are going to spend no matter what. The biggest problem is the boring daily repetition gameplay. Nothing is new. Same boring
@@gideonxl660 Sorry. My previous answer got cut off. I was saying it's the same boring backgrounds. No new content. Where is battle world. Events are not really events. You just play the game as normal for milestone points. No regular tower mode or pocket dimension to give us some different content to play. It's just boring.
I can see that. Hopefully, they get Battleworld done soon.
1st time watching your videos and you are 100% spot on
Appreciate you bro. Thanks for taking the time to watch.
The players who buy the character unlock offers are paying to keep up. Free to play and pass spenders are content with where they're at in the game. This new development will make it difficult for the players used to keeping up to keep up unless Shuri and Pym are cheaper offers than usual releases. That's why the mid-tier spenders are pissed. And the problem with this new release method is the ripple effect it has. Content that requires Illuminati will be scaled with Captain Britain in mind, not Iron Man. CC will suck for anyone who doesn't have CB. The legendary this team will be required for will be acquired at a significantly lower level than those who don't have CB. The lower tier legendary will impact play going forward from there. Everyone just looking at this as a singular pain point aren't looking at the longer term impact and how this will create a two tier game system. This isn't just Kraken vs. F2P as those two types of players don't interact in this game. CB will affect the middle types of players. The players who spend some like on passes and some of the value offers interact with the players who buy initial offers but don't max them on day one so CB will create a schism between them.
Excellent explanation. If you have any more details to add please do. This is very well stated. Thank you.
Bottom line. This effects Krakens none, they already spend this. Give them a little exclusivity.
F2p and cheap to play, dont like it, but as you said, it wont break them
This is full aimed at the $200-300 a month players, aimed to push them to $500+ a month.
I think too many Krakens (Taco, Beta, ect) are calling it quits or going casual, so they need to replenish the ranks
Nailed it
This is extraordinarily concise and well said 👏🏾. If you can explain more then please do. But that is a great take thank you for sharing.
F2p I picked the game up to take mind off of why I was in a cemo hospital with my mom dropped the game for awhile came back and I'm always going to be a f2p because I've never read a happy review i love marvel i hope like so many people that they give a few og characters some love you guys who spend money still destroy me
Thank you for sharing your story. How is your health at present? Don't worry about the money this game can be very expensive just keep having fun. (I don't spend much money)
@@gideonxl660 I'm good thanks for asking and always try to have fun we aren't on this rock long keep on putting out these real videos dude they help
Hey man thanks for the support. Keep up the good fight bro.
Love the channel must subscribe asap.. still playing just get the toons when I can
Awesome man glad you are here. Looking forward to seeing your opinions.
Your numbers are slightly wrong. The most you would need to spend on a character to get 5 star would be 150.
$100 for 180 shards, $50 for 100 shards. Youll be short 30 shards but that's obtainable in the release event.
Really you could get away with just the $100 offer. For example i got guardian to 4-star (180 shards) from nothing.
I just wanted to point out that the #'s were inflated by 50-100%
Great video bro. Keep fighting the good fight
Right but that's times 2 because of Hank pym either way. People discuss the old legendary method of star requirements but you could get a 3 star plain and get them to 5 by the time the legendary event rolled around. We would even have a little time to farm those characters before that event. Just cut out the extra and charge more for Captain Britain to what they desire instead of this convoluted way.
@@danielharris-jw6xu i pointed that out to someone the other day. Ppl complained so much about the original legendary releases but now we have this.
They have to justify charging so much for Britain somehow.
I think it's really scummy that they chose this character to do this to. How many British people play the game and have been waiting on cap Britain to only find out they have to pay extra for him
This is an interesting video! The idea of a mobile game in theory is something you play when you have a spare 5min, on the toilet or in the morning during breakfast, at the doctors etc etc. That is possible, but game modes like blitz and making it so you have to log in at certain times to claim energy means that Scofily manipulates players to log in and play to an extend that psychologically fomo is created. If they really cared about players they could get rid of the game modes that don’t mean anything like blitz. Then make content that is challenging but can be accessed over 24hours, allowing players to play when they can and want to, not requiring logging on at different times of the day to claim energy etc. Steps have been taken, like wars 19 attacks at the start but far more can be changed.
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This is an interesting video! The idea of a mobile game in theory is something you play when you have a spare 5min, on the toilet or in the morning during breakfast, at the doctors etc etc. That is possible, but game modes like blitz and making it so you have to log in at certain times to claim energy means that Scofily manipulates players to log in and play to an extend that psychologically fomo is created. If they really cared about players they could get rid of the game modes that don’t mean anything like blitz. Then make content that is challenging but can be accessed over 24hours, allowing players to play when they can and want to, not requiring logging on at different times of the day to claim energy etc. Steps have been taken, like wars 19 attacks at the start but far more can be changed.
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Not being forced to login every day would help.
@AndrewNeal-h9o I agree with you in many ways. But I think that those 5 minute games. There's definitely games like that out there, but they're not really designed to make money and in the information age that we live in now everybody has a phone with them. So like you said, they're trying to get us to have these habits. I'm definitely in favor of events that last multiple days. That way, people can do pieces of it as they see fit.
This is an interesting video! The idea of a mobile game in theory is something you play when you have a spare 5min, on the toilet or in the morning during breakfast, at the doctors etc etc. That is possible, but game modes like blitz and making it so you have to log in at certain times to claim energy means that Scofily manipulates players to log in and play to an extend that psychologically fomo is created. If they really cared about players they could get rid of the game modes that don’t mean anything like blitz. Then make content that is challenging but can be accessed over 24hours, allowing players to play when they can and want to, not requiring logging on at different times of the day to claim energy etc. Steps have been taken, like wars 19 attacks at the start but far more can be changed.
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This is an interesting video! The idea of a mobile game in theory is something you play when you have a spare 5min, on the toilet or in the morning during breakfast, at the doctors etc etc. That is possible, but game modes like blitz and making it so you have to log in at certain times to claim energy means that Scofily manipulates players to log in and play to an extend that psychologically fomo is created. If they really cared about players they could get rid of the game modes that don’t mean anything like blitz. Then make content that is challenging but can be accessed over 24hours, allowing players to play when they can and want to, not requiring logging on at different times of the day to claim energy etc. Steps have been taken, like wars 19 attacks at the start but far more can be changed.
Excellent comment man keep them coming. I do think in the age that we are now since everybody has phones, And carries them with them. 24 hours a day a lot of game companies don't want to be like the old-school Candy Crush. Or Clash of Clans, where you do 3 to 5 minutes of play. They want to create habits for you to log in that help you to keep playing. I'm a fan of the more marathon play Style. I want events that last 3 days a week. 2 weeks so you can go at them. When you want when you have time I would like more of that type of gameplay. Do you have any thoughts on that? What would that Game mode or game modes be like?