Great video. That orange charge icon on your MixPre is indicating that you aren't getting enough power, which means you need to use either a USB-C to USB-C cable from your power bank with PD or a special 2 USB-A to USB-C cable that Sound Devices sells.
Hi, I have a mixpre 6 and running it on a single sony npf-970. I last a full day. I got tired of using the smaller batteries in couple of days. always bring 3 batteries, but never finished the first one on a day. Also there is a -20 db tone that youre mixpre can send out that helps you match the levels on your komodo.
I actually can get away with an AUKEY 10000mAh power bank doing interviews all day on a MixPre-6. 10000mAh can even get you by if you're trying to keep it more portable.
Low Cut is a good option, but also know that you can apply a low cut on your entire audio in post, along with compression you will get much more even dialogue. Something smaller and similar specs is the Zoom H6, has limiter, 6 inputs, can record to stereo, basically everything this does and you can mount it or even put it on a sling around your neck or whatever. And it's not that power hungry getting 20 hours or more on batteries.
Just a note to say the mix pre series was never designed to be used with standard alkaline batteries, best you would get is 30 mins, however if you use NICAD recharchables, you would get over 2 hours. Best solution is to purchase the L-mount Sled and use the Sony NP type for days of recording. Great video btw.
Awesome video, thank you both! I have a tough question to David. I have MixPre-3 II and I am running Rode Wireless GO II in from the 3.5m AUX port on the side. With the GO II I have 2 transmitters and I would like to record both transmitters' audio to a separate track or at least separate channels. Somehow can't find how to do this, at the moment both transmitters audio is mixed together as one track. Much appreciated. Thanks again!
It may be something you have to change directly through the Rode RX. or it may not have that option. I know with the Hollyland Lark 150 you can do mono tracks or stereo
I record my dialogue for film closer to that -12db to -9db range. Less you have to raise the noise floor when you normalize dialogue in post the crisper it'll sound. You can always lower it if it's too loud for the overall mix, obviously. Mic Placement is key though. Gain is meaningless if you're too far away.
Recording that hot increases the risk of clipping with a sudden and unexpected lift in volume of the source and leaves less headroom for adding processing in post (EQ, etc.) - normally between -18 and -12 (peak) is what is recommended at the recording stage.
Hello! Nice little walk through. Just three additional comments, hopefully it can be useful for you or anyone watching this video. Make sure the channels you don't use are not only disarmed, but that they are muted/fader 100% down/input is set to off in the channel menu (either one of these 3 option works), else it will add noise to the mix. Regarding how to set the levels for the camera at: ruclips.net/video/FoEoB0VEgOI/видео.html Put on the tone generator on the mixpre (less guesswork needed with a stable sound). Lets say you have it at -20 dBfs (which is the default setting and often the standard tone), youll want it to hit the same on the kommodo. Start with adding gain on the mixpre out rather then the kommodo. I bet the 4 AA batteries were non rechargeable? They don't work that good for the mixpre, I guess you would have 2 hours if you used IKEA Ladda or Eneloop blacks. But yeah, researching power options is definitely needed for anything else than really short work.
Nice video! Just one comment. I think that the 3.5mm input provides high quality sound but it doesn't use the Kashmir preamps of the mixpre only present in the XLR inputs. I wonder how noticeable is the difference in a shotgun mic like Rode VideoMic Pro or Deity D3 Pro...
Hey bro I had a video Meeting with James and Riley with Red I am thinking about getting A Red Komodo I mentioned your video to them also what do you think I should get Black Magic Pocket Cinema camera 6K oil lol or Red Komodo with Production kit? And your opinion which one would be better for me I will be using it for content creation documentaries short films and possibly a feature film and some client work also if I was doing client work can I charge them for using a camera package let’s say I’m using a red camera do I add that with the cost? And do you have a sample billing invoice?
@@BadKarma714 If you’re not used to shooting on cinema cameras, then the Blackmagic is more ideal for learning on. As far as those other questions, I only discuss things like that over on the DogTimes Patreon 🤟🏼
Would you still recommend the premix 3? I'm currently using a zoom f3 with a seinheiser mke600. Is there a major difference in sound quality between the two?
Great video, but please tell me, does the MixPre-3 actually plug into the Red Komodo (if so, how?) , or is it a totally separate unit that records while the Komodo does its thing. I would have like to see how the actual physical connection to the camera is done in detail, if that's the way it's done .... regardless ... nice job on this video.
Dumb question but when I have the MixPre 3 wired into my Komodo, in order to record audio directly onto the CFast 2 card in the Komodo, do I need to do anything more than press the Komodo RECORD button? I think I have everything wired up correctly but I’m not getting any audio with the recorded video. Thoughts?
hmmm….if you go line out of the mixpre and then plug that into the komodo headphone jack it should record to the cfast media, (burned into the footage). * but i bet that your track on the MixPre isnt armed. You have to make sure the track is armed.
QQ Justin: are you actually mounting the mix pre on the bottom of the K? I assume not since you would probably have a base plate. So would you use the mix pre as the master time and send it to a tentacle and then use a tentacle on the K? Or what? I’m trying to figure this out. As always thanks for the info. Mike
Yeah, you can do that. Theres a mount on the top & bottom of the mixpre. So if you’re doing a talking head, theres really no reason for a follow focus, so you wouldnt need rails, or you could still mount the mixpre under whatever baseplate you’re using and then attach your QR plate under the mixpre. Theres lots of different ways you can send the audio. I dont have a tentacle sync, but the mixpre can jam timecode on its own thru the 3.5mm jack
Just rewatched this 3 years later... Iam going down the 32-bit float rabbit hole and just a heads up for all you camera geeks that sometimes get sent to remote parts of the world where there are no soundies.... When in 32 bit float, the limiters are automatically OFF. The orange indicators will not appear nor will you be able to find "Limiters" in the menu. Your SD card will also gobble up more space, for example, if you has 12 hours record time available in 24-bit, you will get 9 hours in 32-bit float.
Dudes, the best video about this premix so far. The only way to make the video better would be to have supermodels in the background doing yoga.
🤣🤣
Great video. That orange charge icon on your MixPre is indicating that you aren't getting enough power, which means you need to use either a USB-C to USB-C cable from your power bank with PD or a special 2 USB-A to USB-C cable that Sound Devices sells.
Hi, I have a mixpre 6 and running it on a single sony npf-970. I last a full day. I got tired of using the smaller batteries in couple of days. always bring 3 batteries, but never finished the first one on a day.
Also there is a -20 db tone that youre mixpre can send out that helps you match the levels on your komodo.
This was the best MixPre explanation I’ve found. Thank you!
Thanks both of you! You guys just have all the answers I need.
great vid, i use the mixpre3ii with a "USB C Portable Charger RAVPower 20100mAh Power Bank" a whole day without dying ...hope this helps
I actually can get away with an AUKEY 10000mAh power bank doing interviews all day on a MixPre-6. 10000mAh can even get you by if you're trying to keep it more portable.
This was so informative, David is a pro! Thanks!!
What a great video on the Mix Pre, this was so educational and help me a lot on the understanding of the sound device
Low Cut is a good option, but also know that you can apply a low cut on your entire audio in post, along with compression you will get much more even dialogue. Something smaller and similar specs is the Zoom H6, has limiter, 6 inputs, can record to stereo, basically everything this does and you can mount it or even put it on a sling around your neck or whatever. And it's not that power hungry getting 20 hours or more on batteries.
Long conversation about setting a level in the camera. Use the tone generator and calibrate using the meters. That’s what it’s there for.
Just a note to say the mix pre series was never designed to be used with standard alkaline batteries, best you would get is 30 mins, however if you use NICAD recharchables, you would get over 2 hours. Best solution is to purchase the L-mount Sled and use the Sony NP type for days of recording. Great video btw.
yeah the L mount batteries are the only way you can record for more than 2 hours constantly
This is very good!
finally a great tutorial for general use with these mixpre's
Absolutely fantastic. I'm new to the industry and just bought a mix pre 6. This was really helpful. Thanks guys!
great tutorial for general use with these mixpre's
Thanks for having me on! Nice edit!
Thank you, David!! 👏🏼👏🏼🙌🏼🦾💯
What an awesome video. Thanks.
Thanks for this video, best video about the PreMix so far. Very helpful, Thank you!
Awesome video, thank you both! I have a tough question to David. I have MixPre-3 II and I am running Rode Wireless GO II in from the 3.5m AUX port on the side. With the GO II I have 2 transmitters and I would like to record both transmitters' audio to a separate track or at least separate channels. Somehow can't find how to do this, at the moment both transmitters audio is mixed together as one track. Much appreciated. Thanks again!
It may be something you have to change directly through the Rode RX. or it may not have that option. I know with the Hollyland Lark 150 you can do mono tracks or stereo
I record my dialogue for film closer to that -12db to -9db range. Less you have to raise the noise floor when you normalize dialogue in post the crisper it'll sound. You can always lower it if it's too loud for the overall mix, obviously. Mic Placement is key though. Gain is meaningless if you're too far away.
Recording that hot increases the risk of clipping with a sudden and unexpected lift in volume of the source and leaves less headroom for adding processing in post (EQ, etc.) - normally between -18 and -12 (peak) is what is recommended at the recording stage.
Hello! Nice little walk through. Just three additional comments, hopefully it can be useful for you or anyone watching this video.
Make sure the channels you don't use are not only disarmed, but that they are muted/fader 100% down/input is set to off in the channel menu (either one of these 3 option works), else it will add noise to the mix.
Regarding how to set the levels for the camera at: ruclips.net/video/FoEoB0VEgOI/видео.html Put on the tone generator on the mixpre (less guesswork needed with a stable sound). Lets say you have it at -20 dBfs (which is the default setting and often the standard tone), youll want it to hit the same on the kommodo. Start with adding gain on the mixpre out rather then the kommodo.
I bet the 4 AA batteries were non rechargeable? They don't work that good for the mixpre, I guess you would have 2 hours if you used IKEA Ladda or Eneloop blacks. But yeah, researching power options is definitely needed for anything else than really short work.
Nice video! Just one comment. I think that the 3.5mm input provides high quality sound but it doesn't use the Kashmir preamps of the mixpre only present in the XLR inputs. I wonder how noticeable is the difference in a shotgun mic like Rode VideoMic Pro or Deity D3 Pro...
Great video
Intro/outro A-roll lookin' spicy lately!
lol thanks!
Great video. Will you be doing an updated video with NoiseAssist and 32bit float with your MixPre 3 II?
Great video and and very informative! I was going to buy a MixPre, but with that power deal...pass!
Justin, do u have a show on mics or can u give some advice on wireless lavalier?
Heres the most recent video on that topic
ruclips.net/video/3SgKitUXftw/видео.htmlsi=NNX_pRR0z4bB1oJN
Great Video - thank you!
Thank YOU
Justin, how does the audio pre-amp attach to the Komodo and to the tri-pod?? Great work and thx in advance
Theres a 1/4-20 on both top and bottom
super helpful!!
thanks for making this video.
You bet!
great vid! can you show us, how you mounted the mixpre 3 under the komodo? looks quite useful..
The MixPre has a quarter twenty on top
This was so good!
Thanks!
Hey bro I had a video Meeting with James and Riley with Red I am thinking about getting A Red Komodo I mentioned your video to them also what do you think I should get Black Magic Pocket Cinema camera 6K oil lol or Red Komodo with Production kit? And your opinion which one would be better for me I will be using it for content creation documentaries short films and possibly a feature film and some client work also if I was doing client work can I charge them for using a camera package let’s say I’m using a red camera do I add that with the cost? And do you have a sample billing invoice?
oh nice! RED all the way, i'm not even a fan of the P6K. I'd get the P4K with a metabones before a P6K, but that's just me
@@JustinPhillip I just added some more Questions if you can’t answer it’s cool essay lol
@@BadKarma714 If you’re not used to shooting on cinema cameras, then the Blackmagic is more ideal for learning on. As far as those other questions, I only discuss things like that over on the DogTimes Patreon 🤟🏼
Thanks for sharing
Have you found s way to use that configuration and also use 15mm bars underneath for follow focus and Mattebox ??
Trying to understand why you wouldn’t record in 32 bit float? And why wasn’t it mentioned. Might of missed it. Great video!
32 bit float not available on the Mix Pre until the Mkii version (2nd gen)
Hi Justin. Just want to say that I find this walk through with David most informative. Really. very very good.
Thank you 🙌🏼
Would you still recommend the premix 3? I'm currently using a zoom f3 with a seinheiser mke600. Is there a major difference in sound quality between the two?
I still have my mixpre 3. Absolutely love it. Im not sure if the zoom f3 has 32bit float.
Great video, but please tell me, does the MixPre-3 actually plug into the Red Komodo (if so, how?) , or is it a totally separate unit that records while the Komodo does its thing. I would have like to see how the actual physical connection to the camera is done in detail, if that's the way it's done .... regardless ... nice job on this video.
stereo out to the mic in on the camera
@@JustinPhillip when powered from the same V-mount battery, I have a wierd elecric noize in the k - did you experienced this somehow ?
@@kroOnski No, i always power it with V mount.
@@kroOnski i have that same noise too. Did you ever figure out a workaround?
Justin, what cable do u use to the Komodo from the mixer? Thx ahead of time
i just use these: amzn.to/4cKGeB9
Do you ever wish you had a mix pre 6 ii instead of the 3 ii? The mixpre 3 ii only takes 3 xlr where the mixpre6 ii takes 4 xlr-1/4
What is the workflow for videographers capturing audio on the MixPre 6 ii (32bit float). I think most video editing apps don’t support 32bit.
Very useful!
awsome vid..
thanks!
Have u ever had issues with the mixpre 3 ii not having balanced outputs ? The mixpre 10ii has balanced outputs
Not that i’ve noticed
@@JustinPhillip do you synch audio into the Komodo with the mixpre3ii or do you record separate audio ?
Dumb question but when I have the MixPre 3 wired into my Komodo, in order to record audio directly onto the CFast 2 card in the Komodo, do I need to do anything more than press the Komodo RECORD button? I think I have everything wired up correctly but I’m not getting any audio with the recorded video. Thoughts?
hmmm….if you go line out of the mixpre and then plug that into the komodo headphone jack it should record to the cfast media, (burned into the footage). * but i bet that your track on the MixPre isnt armed. You have to make sure the track is armed.
That's value
QQ Justin: are you actually mounting the mix pre on the bottom of the K? I assume not since you would probably have a base plate. So would you use the mix pre as the master time and send it to a tentacle and then use a tentacle on the K? Or what? I’m trying to figure this out. As always thanks for the info. Mike
Yeah, you can do that. Theres a mount on the top & bottom of the mixpre. So if you’re doing a talking head, theres really no reason for a follow focus, so you wouldnt need rails, or you could still mount the mixpre under whatever baseplate you’re using and then attach your QR plate under the mixpre. Theres lots of different ways you can send the audio. I dont have a tentacle sync, but the mixpre can jam timecode on its own thru the 3.5mm jack
@@JustinPhillip thanks much, be safe
Strange I couldn't find the "Limiter" option in Setting page even I am in "Advance" mode...
You might have the okder generation. There is q mark 1 version and it looks just like this one
@@JustinPhillip I believe I am using the MixPre-3 II since it has "silver" metal on the edges while the 1st version should be copper.
Just rewatched this 3 years later... Iam going down the 32-bit float rabbit hole and just a heads up for all you camera geeks that sometimes get sent to remote parts of the world where there are no soundies.... When in 32 bit float, the limiters are automatically OFF. The orange indicators will not appear nor will you be able to find "Limiters" in the menu. Your SD card will also gobble up more space, for example, if you has 12 hours record time available in 24-bit, you will get 9 hours in 32-bit float.
You can turn limiters back on tho
@@JustinPhilliphow ?
I forgot to say good video as always also November 8th I am getting married bro
Congrats!
That was an awesome intro to this world, but I must admit that I’m close to passing out from the tech info overload...
😂
Can you do professional voiceover work with the built in preamp?
definitely. just need a really good mic and a good booth
@@JustinPhillip Thanks!
First time being first on a video 😂
JUSTIN EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE RED Komodo--------BUT NO ONE IS SHOWING COLOR GRADING RESULTS -YOU KNOW LIKE