Learned more from this video about freehand bevel grinding than a years worth of RUclips and trial by fire. Great explanations as you stepped through each process.
I like your videos. you are very humble and you don't come across as a know it all that never makes mistakes. in fact, you say the complete opposite. its easier to learn from someone who is always learning, themselves, rather than someone who already thinks they know everything.
When I introduce new makers to grinding this is the video i turn to. I learned from this and still apply these techniques, I can grind kriss bali blades, swedges and a few grounds i would consider out of the box. I owe a lot of it to this video.
+theelfman Gald you found it helpful! The 45s in the beginning act as a reference point for me and saves the belt from losing all the grit on the initial cut.
just watched 2 hours of your videos man. amazing stuff. I've spent alot if time in youtube learning before I jump into this craft and you are my favorite. keep up the good work and I hope your dream becomes a profitable reality.
***** Its a lot of fun. Its challenging and rewarding at the same time. A cheap grinder like the Craftsman 2x42 and a cheap drill press will take you pretty far too. Thank you for watching!
very nice video brother..... a wise old knifemaker once told me that both beginner and a master make mistakes, but the difference is that a master knows how to fix those mistakes
+iOAHUGROWNi Very true! I've still got quite a ways to go but I'm glad to say I can correct some mistakes that really gave me trouble in the beginning. Those guys that have been doing it a long time make it look so easy!
Thanks ekim for the video , i just finished my grinder and made some knives but are not yet done and i made them full flat grinds because i couldnt make straightlines . But thanks to this video i have now been able to make better lines and have felt improvement thanks alot and what a nice grinder you got . You should make alot more of these videos because you are very clear and descriptive thankyou again.
+zacatecano1986 I'm glad you found it helpful! Keep on practicing those grinds and you'll be making some awesome blades in no time! Oh and how to hollow grind is uploading as I type this : ) Thanks for watching!
This is SO helpful. I'm a total newb at this and I started out my first knife trying to make the flats without doing the initial 45 degree grind. In hindsight, it's obvious to me now that this was why i was overheating things and killing the belts too. I had more surface on the belt at the start and it was getting super hot very fast. Lines were all messed up too. After watching this video, I started doing the initial 45 degree grind first and things are looking SO much nicer. Thanks so much for the instruction. Totally awesome video.
I do the exact same; start the plunge a few mm forward of where I want it, set the grind, then work back to the final plunge line. Sometimes it takes a fiddle fuck to get it lined up and feathered in, but I think that time invested is far better than the alternative of entirely screwing up the line and winding up with a jacked up knife that can't be sold. Basically, my philosophy is avoid the handful of mistakes that can lead to disaster. Everything else you can work through.
Awesome tutorial bro. Luv the info n the humor. Very gud Video. Jus wish I found ur guidance b4 I started my 1st knife. Made lots of mistakes so far n if it wasn’t fo u I think I wud have jus gave up. But now am gona go fo the keeeel. Much appreciated n respect. Keep up the gud work. 👍👍👍
This is the best video I have seen on how to grind. Thank you very much for making it. I took a bunch of notes. Are you putting a lot of pressure on the blade up against the grinder?
Dp Once this series is done, I may start working on some more advanced tutorials like folders, swedges, removable scales, and hollow grinding. Thanks for watching!
Great video, I wish there was a one with such great info on grinding when I first started out lol So are you gonna leave it at 80 pre-HT? Anyway awesome work, and keep it up, you're a natural and you're teaching all the right habbits :)
***** I almost missed this comment. Sorry for the late response. Yes I have been leaving them at about an 80 grit finish pre heat treat. (partially to keep the video length somewhat reasonable lol) I used to take it up to a 220. I know some people say that a rough grit can cause stress risers in the steel and a possible fracture point but I have not had any issues yet. Perhaps yet is the key word there though...Either way, I have been working on a lot of folders lately and am transitioning into 100% post heat treat grinding to further mitigate any warping and stress on the steel during heat treat. Thank you very much for the kind words! I sincerely appreciate it!
Great video sir! I have just started making knives and have had a minor issue with over grinding the tip of the blade, almost into a chisel point, while trying to get the bevel higher up towards that end of the knife. Any tips on correcting this? Thanks again for the informative video!
What grit of sand paper should I use to do the grind?... I am very new to this and I cannot seem to make the grind move up evenly.. I am getting humps or some areas more hollow
When grinding, apart from the initial 45 degree angle you cut into both sides, do you continuously adjust your angle to make it steeper and steeper? Or do you hold the same angle all the way through?
does it matter if you hold the edge up or down when grinding? I've been doing it with the edge facing down. but I notice your doing it with it facing up. just don't want to be doing it wrong. thanks
also at 12:35 of the video. why did the blade jump like that. I've had that happen to me and I can't figure out why. idk if I'm doing something wrong or what. I'm just starting out. I've only made a couple knives so far. so I still have a lot to learn
Hey, I'm just starting out with knife making, however.. I don't have a belt sander I have a grinding wheel. Would I be able to pull off the same flat grind you did? Any advise? I'm in Australia QLD and I can't seem to get 1095 anywhere so I'll be using 1075. Loving the series! It's taught me a lot!
+Noam Lissner Thanks for watching the series!! A flat grind can be done on a wheel but it is extremely difficult. Traditional Japanese makers use wheels for the entire process but the learning curve is much steeper and its a different technique that I'm not entirely familiar with. If the wheel is large enough, a hollow grind would be easier. But keep in mind also if its a stone wheel on a pedestal/bench grinder it will still be a challenge. Belt grinders really are the better tool for the job if you can get one some how. 1075 would be fine to learn on and will make a nice functional knife.
The belt sander, even a cheaper one is a great tool to invest in. Even if you lose interest in making knives, I use mine for a ton of other things too so it definitely wont go to waste. Best of luck to you for when you get started!
Are you running different speeds for different grits? If so what would they be... I know fps probably isn't realistic but like, faster for lower grits or faster for finishing. Thanks, great series btw!!! Aloha, G
Gary F. Typically you want to run low grits fast and high grits slow. However, I learned on a single speed grinder so I usually just leave it at a medium speed and adjust my pressure as needed.
hi, im new to knife making and just orderd my first belt sander. i have seen almost all your vids and have a simple question. while grinding your bevels, does your knife get hot enoph to burn your hands. just wandering.
H&H H&H don't let it get that hot. Putting steel on a high speed abrasive will generate huge friction. It can get stupid hot but you don't want to get burned or change the metallurgy of the steel, quench often
Learned more from this video about freehand bevel grinding than a years worth of RUclips and trial by fire. Great explanations as you stepped through each process.
18:49 "whoo that's hot". Literally me every time im grinding.... lol. Thanks for the videos man!!
I like your videos. you are very humble and you don't come across as a know it all that never makes mistakes. in fact, you say the complete opposite. its easier to learn from someone who is always learning, themselves, rather than someone who already thinks they know everything.
You said it perfectly MC this man has great talent in not only making knives but also in teaching.
I totally agree
"Let the steel tell you where to grind."
Makes sense to me. Awesome video series. Second time watching them.
Thank you this helped far more than any other tutorial I watched.
This is the best video I've seen so far on free hand grinding. This is exactly how I do it. Way to go mike!
Thanks for these tips. I’m new to knife maker and you answered a lot of my questions.
Best grinding video hands down. This really helped. Thank you
man your channel is great. I just bought a kmg and I am having a blast learning a new skill
that's a hell of a way to get started! just but the best machine off the bat, I like it lol
+THE Justin Schmidt I have always jumped into things head first. Check out Big Ditch Knives on fb for some pics of what I've been doing
When I introduce new makers to grinding this is the video i turn to. I learned from this and still apply these techniques, I can grind kriss bali blades, swedges and a few grounds i would consider out of the box. I owe a lot of it to this video.
This vid makes so much sense. Thanks heaps mate. The 45 degree grind at the start really just gives you a baseline I guess
+theelfman Gald you found it helpful! The 45s in the beginning act as a reference point for me and saves the belt from losing all the grit on the initial cut.
Awesome video dude, thanks for sharing your knowledge. Less trial-and-error and screwed up steel.
just watched 2 hours of your videos man. amazing stuff. I've spent alot if time in youtube learning before I jump into this craft and you are my favorite. keep up the good work and I hope your dream becomes a profitable reality.
Great watch man, learnt a lot from your work and teachings 🔥⚒🔪🇬🇧
I'm about to start making knives. This is a great video on how to do the grind. Thank you so much for it man.
+Dani El Awesome to hear you are getting started out! Best of luck to you and thanks for watching!
Been watching your little series. So far so good. I'm really tempted in getting all the tools I need to start making knives.
***** Its a lot of fun. Its challenging and rewarding at the same time. A cheap grinder like the Craftsman 2x42 and a cheap drill press will take you pretty far too. Thank you for watching!
very nice video brother..... a wise old knifemaker once told me that both beginner and a master make mistakes, but the difference is that a master knows how to fix those mistakes
+iOAHUGROWNi Very true! I've still got quite a ways to go but I'm glad to say I can correct some mistakes that really gave me trouble in the beginning. Those guys that have been doing it a long time make it look so easy!
This is just what I needed, very informative! Thank you.
Love your videos, thanks 4 making them they r sooo helpful
Thanks ekim for the video , i just finished my grinder and made some knives but are not yet done and i made them full flat grinds because i couldnt make straightlines . But thanks to this video i have now been able to make better lines and have felt improvement thanks alot and what a nice grinder you got . You should make alot more of these videos because you are very clear and descriptive thankyou again.
+zacatecano1986 I'm glad you found it helpful! Keep on practicing those grinds and you'll be making some awesome blades in no time! Oh and how to hollow grind is uploading as I type this : ) Thanks for watching!
This is SO helpful. I'm a total newb at this and I started out my first knife trying to make the flats without doing the initial 45 degree grind. In hindsight, it's obvious to me now that this was why i was overheating things and killing the belts too. I had more surface on the belt at the start and it was getting super hot very fast. Lines were all messed up too. After watching this video, I started doing the initial 45 degree grind first and things are looking SO much nicer. Thanks so much for the instruction. Totally awesome video.
I do the exact same; start the plunge a few mm forward of where I want it, set the grind, then work back to the final plunge line. Sometimes it takes a fiddle fuck to get it lined up and feathered in, but I think that time invested is far better than the alternative of entirely screwing up the line and winding up with a jacked up knife that can't be sold. Basically, my philosophy is avoid the handful of mistakes that can lead to disaster. Everything else you can work through.
I really appreciate you making these vids.
What? No Eye Protection, Gloves or Respirator??
I Love this Guy, He's just like Me!! 🔪
I subscribed very good information I appreciate your time and help
Thanks brother
"Grinding freehand is making a bunch of mistakes and correcting them." I love it.
Haha... Sums my day up. Except for that last part when I just make more mistakes. ;)
Are you still making knives????
great video! learned a lot, thank you
Thank you for a very informative video!
+Bruce Prosser Anytime! I'm glad you found it helpful and thank you for watching!
Mike love your videos man! They have helped me so much! Can you please tell me what speed you’re grinding at? Thanks
Awesome tutorial bro. Luv the info n the humor. Very gud Video. Jus wish I found ur guidance b4 I started my 1st knife. Made lots of mistakes so far n if it wasn’t fo u I think I wud have jus gave up. But now am gona go fo the keeeel. Much appreciated n respect. Keep up the gud work. 👍👍👍
Man you have the best videos
Thanks for lesson very interesting, I'm just learning. cya, Chuck
Awesome, very helpful video!! Question for you. What speed do you typically set your VFD at?
Great vid - ever consider a jig ?
This is the best video I have seen on how to grind. Thank you very much for making it. I took a bunch of notes. Are you putting a lot of pressure on the blade up against the grinder?
Great video man :)
***** Thank you! I hope you found it helpful!
Your a great teacher thank you
Thanks for the video! I learned a lot.
Like yer work, dint want them to end...hint, hint...friction folder!
Dp Once this series is done, I may start working on some more advanced tutorials like folders, swedges, removable scales, and hollow grinding. Thanks for watching!
+EKIM1428 id want to see a hollow grinding video
Hollow grind coming shortly. I finally got a new camera.
Awesome Tutorial! Thanks! May I ask how fast your belt is running (ft/s)? looks not that fast.
did you make that belt grinder? that looks pretty sweet but Ive never seen one like that before.
If you want a good grinder similar to his look up Alec Steeles grinders
Great video, I wish there was a one with such great info on grinding when I first started out lol So are you gonna leave it at 80 pre-HT? Anyway awesome work, and keep it up, you're a natural and you're teaching all the right habbits :)
***** I almost missed this comment. Sorry for the late response. Yes I have been leaving them at about an 80 grit finish pre heat treat. (partially to keep the video length somewhat reasonable lol) I used to take it up to a 220.
I know some people say that a rough grit can cause stress risers in the steel and a possible fracture point but I have not had any issues yet. Perhaps yet is the key word there though...Either way, I have been working on a lot of folders lately and am transitioning into 100% post heat treat grinding to further mitigate any warping and stress on the steel during heat treat.
Thank you very much for the kind words! I sincerely appreciate it!
Great video sir! I have just started making knives and have had a minor issue with over grinding the tip of the blade, almost into a chisel point, while trying to get the bevel higher up towards that end of the knife. Any tips on correcting this? Thanks again for the informative video!
does the belt ride tight against the backing plate or do you have a small gap, mine is even with the rollers .....new to this thanks
Are you grinding before heat treat or after?
What grit of sand paper should I use to do the grind?... I am very new to this and I cannot seem to make the grind move up evenly.. I am getting humps or some areas more hollow
When grinding, apart from the initial 45 degree angle you cut into both sides, do you continuously adjust your angle to make it steeper and steeper? Or do you hold the same angle all the way through?
Craig Cannizzaro I was wondering the same thing.
does it matter if you hold the edge up or down when grinding? I've been doing it with the edge facing down. but I notice your doing it with it facing up. just don't want to be doing it wrong. thanks
also at 12:35 of the video. why did the blade jump like that. I've had that happen to me and I can't figure out why. idk if I'm doing something wrong or what. I'm just starting out. I've only made a couple knives so far. so I still have a lot to learn
ok you just said why it does that 😄
I keep burning my knuckles when checking to see if I have the right angle. Should I be checking while the belt is stopped?
I usually do I go into the angle keep one finger out and start the belt of course it also depends on the distance of your belts button
Hey, I'm just starting out with knife making, however.. I don't have a belt sander I have a grinding wheel. Would I be able to pull off the same flat grind you did?
Any advise?
I'm in Australia QLD and I can't seem to get 1095 anywhere so I'll be using 1075.
Loving the series! It's taught me a lot!
+Noam Lissner Thanks for watching the series!! A flat grind can be done on a wheel but it is extremely difficult. Traditional Japanese makers use wheels for the entire process but the learning curve is much steeper and its a different technique that I'm not entirely familiar with. If the wheel is large enough, a hollow grind would be easier. But keep in mind also if its a stone wheel on a pedestal/bench grinder it will still be a challenge. Belt grinders really are the better tool for the job if you can get one some how. 1075 would be fine to learn on and will make a nice functional knife.
Yeah, I might just buy a belt sander, because this looks like a great hobby. Thank you!!!
I don't think I'll be skilled enough to use the wheel if u say it will be difficult. ;)
The belt sander, even a cheaper one is a great tool to invest in. Even if you lose interest in making knives, I use mine for a ton of other things too so it definitely wont go to waste. Best of luck to you for when you get started!
Thanks heaps for the advise and videos!
Are you running different speeds for different grits? If so what would they be... I know fps probably isn't realistic but like, faster for lower grits or faster for finishing.
Thanks, great series btw!!!
Aloha,
G
Gary F. Typically you want to run low grits fast and high grits slow. However, I learned on a single speed grinder so I usually just leave it at a medium speed and adjust my pressure as needed.
Thanks!
what kind of drill is that insite your drillpress at the begin of the video?
between the heel and the tip i keep getting a low spot.. how do you correct that??
I see occasional "belt-judder" or is that "knife-judder", what is the main cause of that?
hi, im new to knife making and just orderd my first belt sander. i have seen almost all your vids and have a simple question. while grinding your bevels, does your knife get hot enoph to burn your hands. just wandering.
H&H H&H don't let it get that hot. Putting steel on a high speed abrasive will generate huge friction. It can get stupid hot but you don't want to get burned or change the metallurgy of the steel, quench often
Hey. Are you left handed?
Do you do most of your grinding pre heat treat?
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Eh just take the injury like a man don't be a 2 year old and cry please don't you might loose you man hood lol jk