...i was always glad Human / Pat / Todd were on my side during those unhinged years. lol. we got in a lot of fights back in the day (not because we wanted to but because we had to) so these weak ass entitled faux punk victim-claiming kids could look the way they do now. VC were the real deal - violence personified for sure...the TSOL parka crew too were insane for they were mostly made up of the ol' VC troop. these truly were "the good ol days".
...thru the others yes...i did not "hang" with with him much though - i was a couple years younger than all of them and came from anacrime (i would hitch a ride with some older cats that could drive to go to the "studio" and watch TSOL rehearse (and go to zed's) - they also looked out for me at gigs being as i was bit younger 'n' all and i was extremely glad for that. i was closer with Ron and Mike. (in fact Ron joined my band after he quit TSOL in the latter part of the 80's)....when i say "we" got in a lot of fights i certainly mean ALL punk rockers from 76-83 era in OC/LA - it simply was par for the course that you would have to throw hands for being "punk in public" (even if you did not like to fight you had to get on board quick with fisticuffs and being called "f*ggot" and hearing "devo sux" was regular banter from the rest of society - lol) as well as with being rolled up on/hassled by the police constantly (the hatred the cops had at that time towards "punk rockers" was palpable) - heck i was on file in zooport alone over 40 plus times for simply being there and having cropped messy hair and a Damned (or other punk groups) button pinned on an old man vintage button down tee - lol truth be told a lot of the dudes hanging out around TSOL back in the early years were simply bat-sh*t crazy (like Jack states here) and simply looking for a place to vent their deep rooted hidden mental/emotional issues ....violence/chaos was glorified encouraged and enjoyed (the music seemed secondary to a lot of them - not all but a good portion of 'em) - hence why i was VERY glad they "liked" me and i was not on the other end of their vitriol venting angst! lol! all the best!!@@georgb6175
Thanks Jack for taking me on a trip down memory lane. All the fights that we had at the Cuckoo's Nest with the Cowboys next door, going down to Laguna beach at night and hurting the queers. All the fights with the hippies, mods and jocks. The nights in the cemetery. Riots with police at the Olympic and other venues. Skating sessions at the Big O after snorting Benny's. You're right, there is no such thing as a fair fight! Kicking back and getting loaded at the Confederate house. Always having to have eyes in the back of your head. At the time, we all thought it was fun. Now that I am 58, I'm just glad I lived through it and didn't end up with a life sentence in prison or dead like a lot of our old friends. Does anybody know where I could buy a copy of the Vicious Circle CD, or however they put it out? Any help or comment would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks for stopping by and sharing your memories. I’m glad you turned out OK. The Vicious Circle album is available on iTunes. It was released on vinyl, but I don’t think it was released on CD.
They always have the lame insta-sleeves though. I’m still trying to decide if getting blasted down in ink 30 years ago was a mistake : thinking about laser surgery to rebel against the “cool moms”
I'm pretty sure I was at that first Vicious Circle show....I was at the Fleetwood 4 days a week, and was at the GERMS shows there....I think the GERMS played there once in 79? and twice in 80 the second show of which was their break up show the FLEETWOOD....one of THE best punk clubs and it's usually ignored The Bags, Circle Jerks and FEAR were filmed there for Decline of Western Civilization Ron quit Black Flag there.... ALL the Hollywood bands came down to south Redondo to play there All the OC bands came up to play there the Pedro bands Black Flag, Circle Jerks and Red Cross LIVED there practically
I once went into Tipitinas in N'orleans early for a show and sat at the bar with some guys until Circle Jerks were to take the stage at which point the guys left the bar and got on stage to play. I was a teenager and oblivious to the fact I was chilling with the band. Lol reading this comment brings back crazy memories for some reason. Respect 🙏
I lived in LB walking distance to Millikan HS where I / Jack and a bunch of other punks went . I used to ride my bike from Long Beach to Redondo King Harbor to fish for bonito - right past the Fleetwood . TSOL played at Millikan - I think that was 1980? .
Hell yes . Jack knows. I grew up 70s and 80s. In San fernando and miracle mile la. So true. Being a punk then was a class all our own. People never saw the shit we were doing and looking like.. Fun crazy times. Saw tsol play a show on Reseda Blvd where they did boxing. Forever in my memory.
I remember those days. VC was tagged all over our neighborhood in Long Beach, Jack lived less than a mile from me and is a couple years older and everyone knew who he was. I also remember a night at the Cuckoo's Nest when Jack got in a fight with some cowboy dudes in the parking lot and kicked their asses while wearing a dress, will never forget that scene.
I lived off Palo Verde- VC was tagged alone the underside of bridges , the concrete wall of the 405, and El Dorado park . Did you go to Millikan HS? I went there with Jack and had the biggest crush on his sister DD. Good times
I lived off Stearns and Palo Verde growing up. I was too young to get involved or go to any of these parties but my uncle Chris Holt was all in I think they played at his house a couple times off Peabody
Huntington High School Class of 1978 , I was one of the fukd up 6'0'' 185 Skinhead Maniac Beach Kid Surf Skate and Slam Dance at the Nest , LIFE WAS GOOD !
I fucking love Jack. TSOL were one of the greatest bands. Never got the full credit they deserved especially when it comes to horror punk, they were doing it even before the misfits. If I could get Jack Grisham, Greg Graffin, and Matt Skiba in the same room, my life would be complete and the stories those 3 could tell. Oh man.
I remember me and my friends being getting rousted by Redondo cops in the Fleetwood parking lot and taking our case of beer and about a quarter oz of hash from us, then told us to get lost. So we walked back into the Fleetwood. After that, it became the Smoke Stack. Those were the days
I was a pretty big Metalhead back in the day but loved some hardcore punk. If you showed up to a gig wearing a leather jacket and long hair there's no doubt that you're getting your ass kicked. Love the music but hated the fans.
You were never a metal head. There was no metal in America. You were a macho hippy jock listening to Ted Nuggent, Foghat, Led Zeplin , and mother fuckin Journey.
“..There’s something fucked about a grown man, who is not a cowboy, walking around in cowboy boots.. right, it’s just- it’s a real fucked up look man...” Jack Grisham
🤣 I haven't heard some of those stories in 40 years. Lifeguard house (can't remember the name of the house) beating and river jetty toss was a classic HB story. RIP Britt and Pat!
I grew up in OC off and on in the 70's and 80's ... just like the mob in NYC before RICO was established, So CA was tolerant as long as nobody was killed... we committed felonies all weekend like nothing happened.. before cell phones... cameras.. etc etc ..... it was a GLORIOUS time... I am glad I grew up in this time... I seriously feel sorry for teens today.... they are squeezed into a 1 inch box of nothingness while being FORCED to think and act in specific directions.. Oh, and I remember when we would leave our house open... and garage open too... nothing was ever stolen .... nothing...
@@jv20224 Same thing here in California before the 90's.. the Democrat draconianism had not peaked yet and it was wonderful here.. for example, I remember in the early 80's we were pulled over .. we were all underage... we had beer all over the car.. we had rifles in the car (we had went shooting) the car was not currently registered... no car insurance.. no nothing ..long story short, the cop just made us pour out the beer ran a check on the rifles...and told us to get out of his area... that shit NEVER happens today... NEVER.. now we would be in county jail with felony charges costing THOUSANDS of dollars..
I love hearing Jack's stories, and scrolling through the comments on this vid reading stories from old punks who were around back then. What a wild time! In a lot of ways im very envious.
I bought your book An American Demon ....pretty accurate, got half way through and put it in the bin at work, you come across a sociopath or psychopath,
I read your book Jack my wife got it for me for an anniversary present. I loved it man. I'm in recovery KINDA. Barely holding here lately. Bands like Pennywise, and your music keep me going in all this crazy shit. Thank you. You made me laugh tonight!
I'll try to explain to these little punk rock kids boppin around nowadays and tell them how crazy and violent it was in the early 80s- you had to be a seriously dedicated person, and you needed to know how to FIGHT or carry a razor-
"Punk rock, that just means we're all dancing around with wieners in our hands." This whole interview is just too great. Must see Jack TV.
Uncle Jack is the best
...i was always glad Human / Pat / Todd were on my side during those unhinged years. lol. we got in a lot of fights back in the day (not because we wanted to but because we had to) so these weak ass entitled faux punk victim-claiming kids could look the way they do now. VC were the real deal - violence personified for sure...the TSOL parka crew too were insane for they were mostly made up of the ol' VC troop. these truly were "the good ol days".
You must have also known Britt Reeves. 🫡
...thru the others yes...i did not "hang" with with him much though - i was a couple years younger than all of them and came from anacrime (i would hitch a ride with some older cats that could drive to go to the "studio" and watch TSOL rehearse (and go to zed's) - they also looked out for me at gigs being as i was bit younger 'n' all and i was extremely glad for that. i was closer with Ron and Mike. (in fact Ron joined my band after he quit TSOL in the latter part of the 80's)....when i say "we" got in a lot of fights i certainly mean ALL punk rockers from 76-83 era in OC/LA - it simply was par for the course that you would have to throw hands for being "punk in public" (even if you did not like to fight you had to get on board quick with fisticuffs and being called "f*ggot" and hearing "devo sux" was regular banter from the rest of society - lol) as well as with being rolled up on/hassled by the police constantly (the hatred the cops had at that time towards "punk rockers" was palpable) - heck i was on file in zooport alone over 40 plus times for simply being there and having cropped messy hair and a Damned (or other punk groups) button pinned on an old man vintage button down tee - lol truth be told a lot of the dudes hanging out around TSOL back in the early years were simply bat-sh*t crazy (like Jack states here) and simply looking for a place to vent their deep rooted hidden mental/emotional issues ....violence/chaos was glorified encouraged and enjoyed (the music seemed secondary to a lot of them - not all but a good portion of 'em) - hence why i was VERY glad they "liked" me and i was not on the other end of their vitriol venting angst! lol! all the best!!@@georgb6175
Thanks Jack for taking me on a trip down memory lane. All the fights that we had at the Cuckoo's Nest with the Cowboys next door, going down to Laguna beach at night and hurting the queers. All the fights with the hippies, mods and jocks. The nights in the cemetery. Riots with police at the Olympic and other venues. Skating sessions at the Big O after snorting Benny's. You're right, there is no such thing as a fair fight! Kicking back and getting loaded at the Confederate house. Always having to have eyes in the back of your head. At the time, we all thought it was fun. Now that I am 58, I'm just glad I lived through it and didn't end up with a life sentence in prison or dead like a lot of our old friends.
Does anybody know where I could buy a copy of the Vicious Circle CD, or however they put it out? Any help or comment would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks for stopping by and sharing your memories.
I’m glad you turned out OK.
The Vicious Circle album is available on iTunes. It was released on vinyl, but I don’t think it was released on CD.
Snortin bennies lol hell yeah skate or die!!
@@georgb6175 thank you for the 411
The only people who had tattoos in the 1970s were Sailors, Hell's Angels, and Ex-Cons.
Now 105lb Soccer Moms have full tat sleeves.
They always have the lame insta-sleeves though. I’m still trying to decide if getting blasted down in ink 30 years ago was a mistake : thinking about laser surgery to rebel against the “cool moms”
“I was not my own semen.” I love Jack!
did anyone catch the fact he sleeps with his light on as an adult male because of his punk days?
I'm pretty sure I was at that first Vicious Circle show....I was at the Fleetwood 4 days a week, and was at the GERMS shows there....I think the GERMS played there once in 79? and twice in 80 the second show of which was their break up show
the FLEETWOOD....one of THE best punk clubs and it's usually ignored
The Bags, Circle Jerks and FEAR were filmed there for Decline of Western Civilization
Ron quit Black Flag there....
ALL the Hollywood bands came down to south Redondo to play there
All the OC bands came up to play there
the Pedro bands
Black Flag, Circle Jerks and Red Cross LIVED there practically
I once went into Tipitinas in N'orleans early for a show and sat at the bar with some guys until Circle Jerks were to take the stage at which point the guys left the bar and got on stage to play. I was a teenager and oblivious to the fact I was chilling with the band. Lol reading this comment brings back crazy memories for some reason. Respect 🙏
I lived in LB walking distance to Millikan HS where I / Jack and a bunch of other punks went . I used to ride my bike from Long Beach to Redondo King Harbor to fish for bonito - right past the Fleetwood . TSOL played at Millikan - I think that was 1980? .
i could listen to these stories for days,i hope the movie comes out bud. cheers jack
These stories are insanely fucked, but I love it, stoked he talked about Todd, And the Pat Brown Vandals song
i knew a few dudes in prison with a V on one shoulder and a C on the other... they claimed skinhead
Jacks telling it how it was then n hes still alive to explain it all, beer this man!
Hell yes . Jack knows. I grew up 70s and 80s. In San fernando and miracle mile la. So true. Being a punk then was a class all our own. People never saw the shit we were doing and looking like.. Fun crazy times. Saw tsol play a show on Reseda Blvd where they did boxing. Forever in my memory.
I remember those days. VC was tagged all over our neighborhood in Long Beach, Jack lived less than a mile from me and is a couple years older and everyone knew who he was. I also remember a night at the Cuckoo's Nest when Jack got in a fight with some cowboy dudes in the parking lot and kicked their asses while wearing a dress, will never forget that scene.
I lived off Palo Verde- VC was tagged alone the underside of bridges , the concrete wall of the 405, and El Dorado park . Did you go to Millikan HS? I went there with Jack and had the biggest crush on his sister DD. Good times
@@CaptainG23 I lived by El Dorado Park and did go to Millikan. I remember DD, she was pretty cool.
I lived off Stearns and Palo Verde growing up. I was too young to get involved or go to any of these parties but my uncle Chris Holt was all in I think they played at his house a couple times off Peabody
Henry is great storyteller. Jack is on a whole other level! Brilliance
This is like the real-life suburbia(1983) expanded... Lead character jus happened to be named jack to
Huntington High School Class of 1978 , I was one of the fukd up 6'0'' 185 Skinhead Maniac Beach Kid Surf Skate and Slam Dance at the Nest ,
LIFE WAS GOOD !
My parents are only a little older but went to marina - much love 💯
Why is no one else watching this? Jack is a fucking icon
does jack Grisham have the widest shoulders in Rock and Roll?? seriously hes a bulldozer of a man !
Uncle Jack is the BEST! "The dog's growling at me in the car...the dog's already got a problem" lol
Saw uncle Jack play tonight - TSOL ripped it up
I fucking love Jack. TSOL were one of the greatest bands. Never got the full credit they deserved especially when it comes to horror punk, they were doing it even before the misfits. If I could get Jack Grisham, Greg Graffin, and Matt Skiba in the same room, my life would be complete and the stories those 3 could tell. Oh man.
I laughed all the way through this. Jack is awesome.
I remember me and my friends being getting rousted by Redondo cops in the Fleetwood parking lot and taking our case of beer and about a quarter oz of hash from us, then told us to get lost. So we walked back into the Fleetwood. After that, it became the Smoke Stack. Those were the days
We definitely wore shit JUST to piss people off
Incredible. Nearly forty five riveting minutes.
I don’t know how I have not seen this before. Jack’s stories are like the Jackass show except for men! “Who hasn’t robbed a grave?” Jack.. Legend !
I was a pretty big Metalhead back in the day but loved some hardcore punk. If you showed up to a gig wearing a leather jacket and long hair there's no doubt that you're getting your ass kicked. Love the music but hated the fans.
You were never a metal head. There was no metal in America. You were a macho hippy jock listening to Ted Nuggent, Foghat, Led Zeplin , and mother fuckin Journey.
where can I get the vicious circle record?
Love Jack, TSOL was killer .
Love it I could listen to him talk for hours lol 🤘
Legend
“Grab some goo.” I spit out my cocoa pebbles. Jack is the greatest!
“..There’s something fucked about a grown man, who is not a cowboy, walking around in cowboy boots.. right, it’s just- it’s a real fucked up look man...”
Jack Grisham
Grab some goo 😂
This is one of the most entertaining, funniest videos, I'm laughing out loud at the stories. Love it.
We used to bring a Getto blaster box and set itt on the stage at the mab and hit record
🤣 I haven't heard some of those stories in 40 years. Lifeguard house (can't remember the name of the house) beating and river jetty toss was a classic HB story. RIP Britt and Pat!
Rest in eternal peace, Britt Reeves.
This is awesome and hilarious!
NUT !!!! 😂
One of the greatest storytellers on the planet.
I grew up in OC off and on in the 70's and 80's ... just like the mob in NYC before RICO was established, So CA was tolerant as long as nobody was killed... we committed felonies all weekend like nothing happened.. before cell phones... cameras.. etc etc ..... it was a GLORIOUS time... I am glad I grew up in this time... I seriously feel sorry for teens today.... they are squeezed into a 1 inch box of nothingness while being FORCED to think and act in specific directions.. Oh, and I remember when we would leave our house open... and garage open too... nothing was ever stolen .... nothing...
@@jv20224 Same thing here in California before the 90's.. the Democrat draconianism had not peaked yet and it was wonderful here.. for example, I remember in the early 80's we were pulled over .. we were all underage... we had beer all over the car.. we had rifles in the car (we had went shooting) the car was not currently registered... no car insurance.. no nothing ..long story short, the cop just made us pour out the beer ran a check on the rifles...and told us to get out of his area... that shit NEVER happens today... NEVER.. now we would be in county jail with felony charges costing THOUSANDS of dollars..
I talked to him for a while one time he was great, and I wasn’t really ever a fan of the music but he was rad
15:45 lmao
I love hearing Jack's stories, and scrolling through the comments on this vid reading stories from old punks who were around back then. What a wild time! In a lot of ways im very envious.
Wait.. this is 42 minutes of Jack talking about VC
Is that les Claypool?
"So what..." lmao
Jack is hilarious.
15:45 is the best lol
Yeah this is great. I didn't know about VC and Jack's involvement in them. I'll have to hunt that cd down. Thanks for posting!!
I bought your book An American Demon ....pretty accurate, got half way through and put it in the bin at work, you come across a sociopath or psychopath,
Isn’t a lot of fiction?
ORANGE!!!!!! Makes me love you even more
I read your book Jack my wife got it for me for an anniversary present. I loved it man. I'm in recovery KINDA. Barely holding here lately. Bands like Pennywise, and your music keep me going in all this crazy shit. Thank you. You made me laugh tonight!
Keep your head up
Get to a meeting. Keep going until you don't mind it
Jack Grisham made me do it...
Try me try me
Grabbin some goo
What is this from and where can I find this VC recording?!
The vinyl included a DVD, that’s where this footage originated. The recordings are available on iTunes.
Jackie O' so sick! love it Jack!
😅😅😅😅
Wow
Nice outfit. Ed Gien?
How is this from 2002 if Jack is 50 in this interview? That would put him in his 70's now, not accurate.
I think your right. The correct year should be 2012.
Hi Jack😍
Going to see them next month. March 2023 El Segundo, CA !!! This is epic
See ya there
I love Jack Grisham he is real class act in a brilliant way.
Jack Grisham sounds like a Cultural Marxist
GTFO with that conspiracy theory bullshit!
@@bellazonna6510 i think he s right now.
He was never a real communist. He just did that to fuck with minds. A real intelligent guy who knew how to get a reaction.
Define cultural Marxist?
I'll try to explain to these little punk rock kids boppin around nowadays and tell them how crazy and violent it was in the early 80s- you had to be a seriously dedicated person, and you needed to know how to FIGHT or carry a razor-