I think a key to understanding the design of this car, especially it’s “VIP Lounge Seats” and their ability to fully recline and control the seat in front of them is that in Asian countries it is far more common that grandparents live with their adult children. So if you have one or two kids in the back, the grandparents get to sit in the VIP Lounge Seats and their control over their comfort is an emphasis over anyone else’s.
@@fluffyres6107 well nothing in RUclips in other apps some weird ppl will reach to his dms I personally have that happen to me many times talking about different things
@@Alexi7666 I ordered my jeep rubicon. People order their cars all the time. Who do you think orders the new inventory for dealers? The sales managers order what they think will sell.
I’m surprised Doug didn’t talk about the design more. My first thought was that this looks way more like an SUV than any minivan I’ve ever seen, much more aggressive styling and I like it.
I’ll always have a soft spot for minivans anyway, grew up cruising with the whole squad in the 2004 Honda Odyssey in high school, then took our upgraded 2012 Odyssey 24hrs to Florida with 6 friends in college, perfect road tripper. Good times.
9:09 the buttons actually only active for use when nobody is in the seat, when someone is using the seat a pressure sensor disables the buttons so whoever is in the seat behind can’t mess around with the passenger
Yeah but when no one is in the front seat and a kid is in the 2nd row, they can mess around and move it back and forth which can be distracting when driving.
If you're distracted by a seat in the car you're driving moving at a whopping 1/20th mph then you either need to pay closer attention to the road or put the vehicle into drive.
all Hyundai theta engines cease up around 50k-90k. thats why Hyundai changes its name to "smart stream". they are exact same engines but pretending as newly designed engine. Do not trust Hyundai - KIA.
Clearly you have never been to Florida yourself, central Florida to be precise. Try going fast on I-4 any time of the day. The fastest you could ever do is 35 mph. Average is 15 mph
6:31 "Not sure how many parents are going to want it for their kids." I don't know a lot about parenting but I think kids are a lot quieter when they're asleep.
This Kia van hauls ass and looks way better than other vans, more SUV like. Doug totally missed that! *Asian Petrolhead did a much more thorough review and road tests it hard! 🚐👍
I’m not ashamed to say that this is my new dream car. I don’t have any kids but accidentally discovered how amazingly practical and functional the mini van truly is when my f150 randomly broke down to the point beyond repair at only 102k miles. I am now so happy that it did or else I never would have discovered what I was missing. I had 2000$ to spend on a vehicle. I needed lots of cargo space for work. In that price range I was looking at 20+ year old beat to hell trucks with well over 200k miles that needed thousands in repairs. That is when I saw an ad for a 2007 Nissan Quest that was completely loaded with 91k miles for 2200$. I bit my pride and picked it up after realizing how much space it had with the seats stowed away. You can haul a large group around comfortably and then later that day fold all of the seats down and have more cargo space than a full size pickup… let’s not even mention that it’s protected cargo space. Also if you ever try camping in a mini van it is a superior option to a tent. You can just throw a full sized mattress in there and be extremely comfortable surrounded by the vans luxury features. They also tend to be very reliable and long lasting in general. I’ll never camp in a tent again. I have put 80,000 miles on this thing with only standard maintenance and minor repairs. My girlfriend made so much fun of me after we met and she saw my van. Her mind was quickly changed after a few trips to see family across state and camping adventures. Mini van gang for life for me
I’ve recently been appreciating my minivan more and more. After trips to home depot, hauling lumber and work materials, I’ve come to the realization that a truck simply cannot haul nearly as much, even with a cap/canopy. This van seems like the best way to go. Looks sharp and still utilitarian. Too bad it’s so expensive
Genuinely hope they start a new design trend for minivans, I’d love to see Toyota and Honda innovate to this style for mini vans, it’d make them so much nicer as an option.
The version with the VIP seating would be great for roadtrips. I imagine it would be best for people with older kids and/or just go on trips with friends and family. Possibly even have older parents that live with them. I would keep the back seats down 95% of the time.
roadtripping is exactly why i got my carnival. i love this thing. he didnt even talk about the driving assist features which are pretty snazzy in a minivan.
The feature that lets people move the passenger seat up from back is amazing!!! You no longer have to get up and to it manually or ask the driver. Comes in handy when the front seat is empty or has things on it and your stuck in the back and want more leg room. Uber passgers will love it!
I used to drive a 2004 Honda Odyssey. So I have a soft spot for them. Especially the Honda Odyssey, Toyota Sienna, and the Chrysler Minivans. My least favorite minivan is the Nissan Quest, I never really liked the design.
My Kia Sedona has the side front seat buttons & my kids do NOT mess with them. I actually love that I can maneuver front passenger seat from the second row.
2000s europe had a trend towards vans, so companies put in some effort to make their stuff stand out and look good Altea, Mazda 5, C4 Picasso, S Max, 4th generation Espace and its contemporary Scenic are good examples and then there were some real oddities like the Avantime, Multipla and Altea based Toledo
I don’t think it’s because of age, it’s because we’ve watched so much supercar content over the years that there’s nothing exciting left in the supercar world.
Ultimately, the best usage for the calming sounds would be that the vehicle had sensors to gauge the increasing possibility of a road rage incident which automatically would initiate a calming sequence to Zen you out of it.
The Nissan Quest had 2 separate sun roofs. What was really great was that the front seat sun roof was directly overhead. One could look up & get a full view as opposed to most sun roofs.
Honestly when I think of my family's old minivan I think of all the towing we actually did with it, a V6 has a way better towing capacity at the end of the day, and less engine wear as 4cyl towing does a lot to the engine
My family bought a 2020 Kia Carnival last year, and we all love it. It looks really good inside and out, not so much in your face luxurious or aggressive as the 2021 or 2022 models, but still aggressive enough that the little cars are intimidated. The car's a diesel, sounds like a truck on the outside but once you get in you can't hear a thing, it's one of the quietest cars (on the inside) I've ever been in. The middle row has 3 normal seats instead of 2 luxury seats, which puts it as an 8 seater (back row still has 3), and every seat is big enough to fit any of us. The boot is basically exactly the same.
@@kpopkpop5235 no they don't my mom has a 2013 Hyundai santa fe sport with 170,000 miles and no problems, and my sister got the kis k5 and haven't had any problems with it either
@@kpopkpop5235 kia and Hyundai have had some of the most reliable cars for years. Along with warranties that can't be matched. They started rough in the US but have been great cars for about 10 yrs.
Kia has stepped up their game massively over the last few years. They know their target customer extremely well and the apps for the 2nd row passengers prove it 100%.
@@guildrich how about Crossover Sport Van, which is what GM called their minivans from 2005-2008. The Chevy Uplander, Buick Terraza, Saturn Relay, and Pontiac Montana SV6. The forgotten GM minivans that no one bought, that they attempted to make look like an SUV. I’d say they did a much better job a minivans that didn’t try to fake their identity like the Chevy Astro and GMC Safari(1985-2005) and Chevy Lumina APV, Oldsmobile Silhouette, and Pontiac Trans Sport(1990-1996) and the Chevy Venture and Pontiac Montana(1997-2004)
Just to add. The only reason auto companies make these complicated $50k minivans, is to make extra $$ when those toys (heated and cooled seats, panoramic sunroof, 11 inch screens) all start to break. Kids will be kids and they will break anything they can find. I feel sorry for the parents foolish enough to buy these vehicles at full price. Additionally, why bother with a 10 year 100k warranty if the transmission or engine grenades itself?
you just answered so many questions. I seen this car a few times and I was insanely confused with the Badge.. even tried to follow one around to see what kind of car it was...
Minivans are goldmines of quirks and features IMO Btw, I'm still waiting for the Dodge RAM Van video that you teased in the Durango Hellcat video. THIIIIIISSSSSSSSS video is a masterpiece.
@@portermcsorley I mean, probably wasn't a nickname. Dodge has made Ram trucks and vans for a long time. Unless that was supposed to be some kind of weird sex joke? In which case, could still be a Dodge Ram van honestly
I remember seeing the 'Kia GT' concept in 2010-ish. I (along with a lot of people) thought it was ridiculous that a cheap car company that was known for 20 year old Spectras to venture into that market. That turned into the Stinger, and it turns out, it's pretty great.
All right this is the second review I’ve seen about accessing the third row! So basically you get into the second row and you go into the middle between the two seats to access the back.
Everyone has that one friend who's fairly good looking, but nothing crazy, and then you meet their sibling and their sibling is wildly attractive, that's the vibe this minivan is giving me compared to other minivans.
@@gabrielhoegarden7140 What are you on about? I own a kia, and a ford, and both have been insanely reliable thus far. The Ford hasn't has an issue thus far, its only 5 years old, but its off to a great start, and the kia has only had a few mild repairs.
You are the man. AWESOME review. Yours was one of a few reviews that really helped us make our decision. We actually just bought a 2022 LX Seat Package Carnival and we really like it. After researched every minivan/MPV option VERY thoroughly we concluded that Carnival really has the best total package nailed, all things considered. Those include storage space, leg room, interior/exterior SUV design, more ground clearance, safety, better reliability than all other options in recent years, very respectable gas mileage (we’re getting 30+ on highway), unrivaled infotainment user experience, and the best warranty in the business. We used to be a Honda family but it feels like Honda has stopped trying (feels cheap, much less reliable, and VERY cramped drivers seat leg area), Chrysler interior still feels old school (with lackluster long-term satisfaction), and Toyota will cost you premium dollars for hybrid and AWD (but mechanics tell me that those options lead to more expensive maintenance in the long run). Regarding AWD, I discovered a great RUclips video showing how snow tires (plus traction control) make a much bigger difference than having AWD in the winter. And the Carnival has the BEST 2nd row center/8th seat (especially vs Honda and Toyota), reversible (rear-facing 2nd row option), and with the LX seat package we can remove 2nd row seats if we need to. Toyota’s CEO recently admitted that Hyundai/Kia is the one brand family that worries him when considering their competition. For good reason.
Agreed. I just bought one today. All of the above mentioned. Plus being able to fit two read facing car seats and be comfortable adults in the front was a huge deal. Getting good snow tires makes a huge difference in drivability. I do it with my Sonata and I laugh at snow days or drifted snow on roadways. The biggest lie about all season tires is how they only perform above freezing.
So on point! Yes totally agree with all this and you just confirmed all our research in which can we will but next. Kia is becoming amazing! Toyota was stupid to only have a hybrid version (yes maint is much more! We have a hybrid car and wont buy another hybrid!) and yes honda is getting so outdated. Great comments thanks!
After 8 months of usage, what is your impression of the vehicle? And do we have to take the seat package for the seats in the SX model to swivel around? None of the review videos show that feature.
@@TheoriginalBMT I always see 4WD SUVs and Trucks in the ditch because they think they can go over 60 mph with all seasons, I cruise at a 50 mph with snow tires and RWD in a corvette or sometimes the FWD honda odyssey and laugh at every SUV in the ditch, pretty funny experience
People don’t understand if you have a family, minivans are better than that Tahoe or Suburban you’re thinking of and will last you infinitely longer and actually made for families.
if you’re a family with young children, yeah, but not if you have adolescents or are a family of adults, you need the legroom and headspace of a suburban-type suv
9:20 I don't know why they would bring that feature over here either - in Korea, private drivers usually use that feature to make more space in the back for their customers by folding the seat forward
The way Doug says ‘AND’ in between sentences-gives me great comfort, in knowing that more features and quirks are coming my way.... ANNNND it’s obvious , Doug is excited 😎😂
I really wish Mr.Demuro would use his head as a bit more than a source of noise. The turn signals on the bumper are not an "afterthought". See, Mr.Demuro, when a car stops on the side of the road due to a breakdown, what you do is TURN ON THE HAZARD LIGHTS and open the boot to take out the spare wheel and/or instruments. If the turn signals are on the door, they WILL NOT BE VISIBLE when the door is open. Hence they are located on the part of the rear panel that doesn't move when the door opens. So rather than being "weird" or "stange" it is actually quite clever.
While it indeed isn’t ideal to have those front seat controls in the back row (inciting trolling), it’s probably added so that you can move the front seat to clear more space for the feet/leg pad if you want to get in that ‘premium position’. If the seat is too close to your legs they will literally get stuck when folding up...
Front passenger seats do come with sensors to detect passengers to turn off airbags and dash seat belt sign if no one is present. They can utilize the very same sensor to turn off those controls if a front passenger is sitting. If Kia engineers are smart enough, they should be implementing that.
In Asian countries minivans are very luxurious and for executives and such. That's why the backseat has the ability to move the front seats, because Executive Power.
@@HeortirtheWoodwarden because in places like America and Europe too probably, minivans are mostly just for familys, and suvs and large sedans are for chauffeurs.
And that's why Kia messed up the packaging so badly. You can't get a decently equiped carnival without those pointless dentist chairs. In north America minivans are for families not for executives.
Reviews Doug makes on vehicles like this could benefit from safety information. Since it’s not as important to focus on performance, use the time on other aspects like safety, which would be helpful. And mileage, (like he touches upon in this vid).
The reasoning for the front passenger seat controller is that in Korea, the Carnival is used often for VIP transport and culturally, the most important person sits in the right passenger seat, hence the controls for the front seat that is accessible from the rear
I can also see a instances where the passenger goes to the back to feed the baby and uses the buttons on the front seat to give themself more leg room.
As someone who lived in South Korea, I can confidently say that the Carnival isn’t targeted at families with young children. They’re usually used by entertainment groups for idols or rich teenagers to be driven around by a chauffeur.
As someone who lives in SE Asia, i wonder how doug would react to luxury MPVs (as it classed in here) like Toyota Alphard, Lexus LM350, or Nissan Elgrand
My first car was an odyssey and boy I had fun in it- techno music, going fast, running away from cops, destroying my bumper, scratching up the van, my van was always packed with friends, girls and everyone who needed a ride- the only thing it was missing was a disco ball- I was thinking of putting one but decided not to and guess what…. I still have the odyssey til today but I have bought myself an suv and now just chilling like a villain.
Not sure if it was mentioned but the Odyssey has a feature called "magic slide" (that they highlighted in some videos; they somehow invoke godzilla with how helpful it is) where the middle row seats separate and (more Doug friendly) the Mazda MPV had something called "side by slide" middle row seats in their now defunct minivan.
His review deserves waay more praise for how the vehicle looks. It is the first minivsn to NOT LOOK LIKE A MINIVAN. I am super impressed. Seems like many people in the comments are as well.
The kids entertainment isn't for the kids, it's for the parents to not have to deal with the kids. As my father said, the best thing he ever bought for himself was a gameboy for me.
Lol was thinking the same thing. He stresses its a minivan so much and then nitpicks the digital gauge cluster cause it doesn't change like sports cars 🤦♂️🤣
@@LoneWolfHustle The Audi A4 is cheaper with a better digital dash in 2017. It's not just sports cars, its just that the Kia digital dash is underwhelming.
@@Fykkyr Oh boy, I hate to burst your bubble but the " basics of everything " are not security cameras. ps; hashtags make you look stupid during a dispute. Also, someones IQ has nothing to do with security cameras, so clearly you don't know " the basics of everything " have a good day, love.
@@jamesgarvey8402 For real my 2017 Hyundai Ioniq hybrid has a fucking sport mode that wrecks civic Si's and the like up until about 2013 maybe even later models ands its a hybrid lol.
Pushin 300 HP for a minivan is still insane. Definitely not necessary but nice to have the power when you need to accelerate quickly on the way to soccer practice.
Great Review... Doug. Best looking Minivan SUV crossover I have seen. I really like the sound of the toilet flushing, Lol K N thought of everything. How is engine reliability? The iVECT 10 speed automatic with paddel shifters and 280 hp on the Odyssey is pretty nice... and almost bulletproof.
Wow, is it just me or is it more interesting to watch stuff like this than supercars?
Yes.
Yes, its just you
Yeah. Feels good to watch something that's practical in everyday life
There's a reason he covers both!
Just you, for sure.
That’s a good looking minivan. Mainly because it doesn’t look like one.
@@user-dl8yo3wv1t I literally thought the same lol
It has that suburban/giant suv styling.
@@philb5593 I get Lincoln navigator vibes from the outside and that's probably the best looking suv there is
The older carnival was pretty unattractive
Xw
I think a key to understanding the design of this car, especially it’s “VIP Lounge Seats” and their ability to fully recline and control the seat in front of them is that in Asian countries it is far more common that grandparents live with their adult children. So if you have one or two kids in the back, the grandparents get to sit in the VIP Lounge Seats and their control over their comfort is an emphasis over anyone else’s.
That is interesting to note
I’m 10 years old and I showed this to my dad a few months ago and yesterday we went to order this car.
Don’t say ur age online bro
@@manpan4693 nothing gonna happen if you say your age online.
@@fluffyres6107 well nothing in RUclips in other apps some weird ppl will reach to his dms I personally have that happen to me many times talking about different things
Nobody orders cars anymore. That trend died out in the 1980s.
@@Alexi7666 I ordered my jeep rubicon. People order their cars all the time. Who do you think orders the new inventory for dealers? The sales managers order what they think will sell.
I’m surprised Doug didn’t talk about the design more. My first thought was that this looks way more like an SUV than any minivan I’ve ever seen, much more aggressive styling and I like it.
I agree
I thought the same thing too..
That’s the reason Kia calls it an MPV, not a minivan.
I agree. This is a minivan I can drive around without it slowly killing my soul.
I’ll always have a soft spot for minivans anyway, grew up cruising with the whole squad in the 2004 Honda Odyssey in high school, then took our upgraded 2012 Odyssey 24hrs to Florida with 6 friends in college, perfect road tripper. Good times.
9:09 the buttons actually only active for use when nobody is in the seat, when someone is using the seat a pressure sensor disables the buttons so whoever is in the seat behind can’t mess around with the passenger
Definitely an important distinction
Yeah but when no one is in the front seat and a kid is in the 2nd row, they can mess around and move it back and forth which can be distracting when driving.
If you're distracted by a seat in the car you're driving moving at a whopping 1/20th mph then you either need to pay closer attention to the road or put the vehicle into drive.
all Hyundai theta engines cease up around 50k-90k.
thats why Hyundai changes its name to "smart stream".
they are exact same engines but pretending as newly designed engine.
Do not trust Hyundai - KIA.
I thought that would be pretty obvious especially to Doug
"But I suspect most minivan shoppers don't really care that much if their van is fast" clearly you have never been to Florida.
@Google Account Ur going to get old too one day hehe... Wat are u gonna do then (>_
Looool
Ive seen guys with lowered and streight piped honda Oddessys and big rims with low profile tires on them
Clearly you have never been to Florida yourself, central Florida to be precise. Try going fast on I-4 any time of the day. The fastest you could ever do is 35 mph. Average is 15 mph
😂😂😂😂😂
this is the best looking minivan ive ever seen. i would drive this and i dont even have kids
As an older brother, I can guarantee that the only purpose of the reclining middle seats is to piss off the younger siblings sitting in the 3rd row.
And you slide it all the way back too
Video
your dougs older brother?
@@user-jk7yz3xs8z the OP is saying he would annoy his younger brother with the reclining middle seats 😂
This guy gets it
That New KИ brand has real nice cars
That’s one way of trying to dust the old KIA stigma under the rug
Hey how did ya get your N backwards? Hella cool!
Nezt on cars&bids
@@nostickpeople It's the letter i in Russian. Man, if they'd went all-in and created the Кия Карниваль 😆
Tbh I'm simply not a fan of Kia's new logo.
But I guess it does fit their new design language.
@@seankurth4371 Yes, exactly that.
6:31
"Not sure how many parents are going to want it for their kids."
I don't know a lot about parenting but I think kids are a lot quieter when they're asleep.
loool - I have 5 kids and this made me laugh so hard
This man knows how to parent.
Hang on it's still 2021, are the compliance plated forward stamped at purchase?
We have a KIA Sportage and it's an amazing reliable and fun vehicle.
In some countries, you'd call that car a "2021/ 2022 Model," meaning it was manufactured this year with the design of the next year's model.
oh hi leo
The carnival has easily the best looks from a minivan I've seen
I know it looks like a regular suv
@@noaahhhoke4012 yeah god damn at first I thought it was a SUV
@@noaahhhoke4012 I also thought that, it's very sleek. It's a good look. I like Kia, hope this sells well
This Kia van hauls ass and looks way better than other vans, more SUV like. Doug totally missed that! *Asian Petrolhead did a much more thorough review and road tests it hard! 🚐👍
@@wizeb8282 Dough sounds like a hater.
Going to need the sounds of nature when your kids adjust your seat for the 50th time on the highway.
Play the water sound so you'll need to find a public toilet after 2 minutes!
Doesn't let you adjust if it senses there is weight on the seat
“Serenity now, serenity now!”
@@Ben77788
Hahaha... Seinfeld !
😂
Camara and microphone features to yell at the kids in the back seat: "Don't make me pull this thing over and come back there!"
I’m not ashamed to say that this is my new dream car. I don’t have any kids but accidentally discovered how amazingly practical and functional the mini van truly is when my f150 randomly broke down to the point beyond repair at only 102k miles. I am now so happy that it did or else I never would have discovered what I was missing. I had 2000$ to spend on a vehicle. I needed lots of cargo space for work. In that price range I was looking at 20+ year old beat to hell trucks with well over 200k miles that needed thousands in repairs. That is when I saw an ad for a 2007 Nissan Quest that was completely loaded with 91k miles for 2200$. I bit my pride and picked it up after realizing how much space it had with the seats stowed away. You can haul a large group around comfortably and then later that day fold all of the seats down and have more cargo space than a full size pickup… let’s not even mention that it’s protected cargo space. Also if you ever try camping in a mini van it is a superior option to a tent. You can just throw a full sized mattress in there and be extremely comfortable surrounded by the vans luxury features. They also tend to be very reliable and long lasting in general. I’ll never camp in a tent again. I have put 80,000 miles on this thing with only standard maintenance and minor repairs. My girlfriend made so much fun of me after we met and she saw my van. Her mind was quickly changed after a few trips to see family across state and camping adventures.
Mini van gang for life for me
Doug is the only person in the universe that can keep us amused for 23 mins by a KIA minivan.
And make a car like the Gemera seem not so exciting. He's indeed a unicorn among the car reviewers.
WRONG
@@k.r.99 the Gemera is def more exciting
I want it more than a sport coupe
And that KIA minivan happens to be one of the best in its class.
Better not show my wife. We just paid off our 2015 Sedona and I was hoping to get away from minivans but this.....hell, even I'm tempted.
How come you didn’t pay cash?
@@cTothy not everyone has 40k lying around
Beta
@@DoctorTauri lol. my M2 disagrees.
@@cTothy .9% is hard to turn down. And it's not practical to pay cash for everything. Impossible to build credit that way.
I’ve recently been appreciating my minivan more and more. After trips to home depot, hauling lumber and work materials, I’ve come to the realization that a truck simply cannot haul nearly as much, even with a cap/canopy. This van seems like the best way to go. Looks sharp and still utilitarian. Too bad it’s so expensive
you can just get a lower trim
Me too, I opened a Kia Carnival, and was the rear sliding door!
We are just starting to research minivans and this was a great review. Thank you!
Kia is on a roll with all these cool new designs. Telluride won Car of the Year award. Even this minivan looks handsome.
Every kia/hyundai looks beautiful until you hear knocking sound from ther gdi engine
@@emmaschmidt1100 yeah lol
Genuinely hope they start a new design trend for minivans, I’d love to see Toyota and Honda innovate to this style for mini vans, it’d make them so much nicer as an option.
@@emmaschmidt1100 Just do a LS swap and you are good
@@emmaschmidt1100 all new Hyundai’s are literally the ugliest cars on the market.
this is only mini van I've seen that doesn't look terrible.
It kinda reminds me of an expedition
Looks like a generic SUV to me
@@Karmy. it's got naice fitment👌
@@Karmy. yeah kinda looks like the new exploerers
03 odyssey is the best looking minivan
The version with the VIP seating would be great for roadtrips. I imagine it would be best for people with older kids and/or just go on trips with friends and family. Possibly even have older parents that live with them. I would keep the back seats down 95% of the time.
You could go across the usa in that minivan and Still be comfortable.
roadtripping is exactly why i got my carnival. i love this thing. he didnt even talk about the driving assist features which are pretty snazzy in a minivan.
The feature that lets people move the passenger seat up from back is amazing!!!
You no longer have to get up and to it manually or ask the driver.
Comes in handy when the front seat is empty or has things on it and your stuck in the back and want more leg room. Uber passgers will love it!
_presses ‘Calm Sea Waves’ sound of nature option_
*Sound of hurricane force winds, 40ft waves, Category 5 South-East Asia typhoon*
🤣🤣🤣
😂😂
i thought more of a public toilet vibe, but you're right too
I thought the same thing. "Those are calm waves?!"
Buy w I nanda 42 foot eltrc or ther city 45 foot hybrred
me teenager who as no intensions of buying a family minivan: Interesting
being a teenager and having access to my families sienna allows for plenty of room for activities
Lolol exactly
I used to drive a 2004 Honda Odyssey. So I have a soft spot for them. Especially the Honda Odyssey, Toyota Sienna, and the Chrysler Minivans. My least favorite minivan is the Nissan Quest, I never really liked the design.
😂
Making boring cars seem interesting is part of Doug’s charm.
My Kia Sedona has the side front seat buttons & my kids do NOT mess with them. I actually love that I can maneuver front passenger seat from the second row.
Kia not only is turning out a legitimately cool minivan, but they finally have a cool new logo to match!
K, backwards N
@@andrewmpachetti It still doesn't look as cheap as what they had before.
@@TheAeroAvatar It doesn’t, but it looks Slavic
@@TheAeroAvatar *the logo
@@andrewmpachetti Maybe. I just know I was sick of the old red logo, it screamed "economy car", lol.
Never would I have thought I would see an attractive mini van. The world we live in.
Right. Really good looking munivan
Me too. I'm pretty amazed
Beautiful isn't it. The only thing I'd knock would be that exposed sliding door track.
2000s europe had a trend towards vans, so companies put in some effort to make their stuff stand out and look good
Altea, Mazda 5, C4 Picasso, S Max, 4th generation Espace and its contemporary Scenic are good examples
and then there were some real oddities like the Avantime, Multipla and Altea based Toledo
The older we get, the more attractive minivans become.
You know you've grown up when a minivan video excites you more than a supercar
I don’t think it’s because of age, it’s because we’ve watched so much supercar content over the years that there’s nothing exciting left in the supercar world.
You know youre a dad or ready to be dad. A new chapter of your life
@@insayn7995 no its not that.
I’m 42. You’re not “grown up.” You’re dead inside.
You know you're an adult when nothing gets your rocks off quite like a sensible, fiscally responsible car.
Doug, thank you for putting the fuel specs in METRIC (via subtitles). Thank you, thank you!
Australia has the Kia Carnival and was around when I was little. I moved to the USA a while ago and now to see this van here, it’s kind of cool
"This vehicle was made by K, backwards N"
Proceeds to be dead serious for 2 seconds.
🤣🤣😂
History will label this a "Logo Fail"
I love kia new logo.
@@arrogen2831 that's what she said.
@@jamesstuart3346 Nope. It definitely looks pretty good. Way better than the previous logo.
The turn signal camera transfer on the gauge cluster is genius I like that so much. It gets the blind spots and everything
Honda has had that for years
@@johnh8705 yep, but only for the right side.
Adjust the side mirrors correctly and you won't have blind spots.
@@johnh8705 HoNdA hAs HaD iT fOr YeArS huuuuurrr durrrrrrr.
Only one the right side tho, genius.
@@johnnymichael1804 because Honda engineers are wiser. It's safer not to have a left-hand camera.
"This is the epitome of vehicle" 😂
Ultimately, the best usage for the calming sounds would be that the vehicle had sensors to gauge the increasing possibility of a road rage incident which automatically would initiate a calming sequence to Zen you out of it.
Kia is making a huge comeback when it comes to styling. Their vehicles don't look bland and boring anymore
Thanks to their German designers they hired.
It's called KИ now.
Comeback? They were never on top to begin with
I really love the new logo design.
still cheap quality tho.
I’m 20 and I low key want this. Minivans are so underrated.
You dont look 20
I had a minivan when I was 20. I miss it. The back seat folded down into a bed and I made good use of that feature.
@@wewd shag wagon
“I’m 30, well in November I’ll be 30”
@@user-jk7yz3xs8z you mean he's younger or older ?
The Nissan Quest had 2 separate sun roofs. What was really great was that the front seat sun roof was directly overhead. One could look up & get a full view as opposed to most sun roofs.
Honestly when I think of my family's old minivan I think of all the towing we actually did with it, a V6 has a way better towing capacity at the end of the day, and less engine wear as 4cyl towing does a lot to the engine
That Uber ride is gonna be litty 🔥
These sea sounds are making me sea sick ⛵🤢
@@kazman_the_destroyer_of_souls 🤡
Uber drivers can’t afford this 🤣
@@T-Dawg6.7 uber drivers can afford trash toyota prius used one😂
Imagine spending 50k for an Uber car and it’s a minivan. A very Indian Mom maybe?
IMO the styling is a 10/10. I didn't think someone would be able to make a minivan look soo good
yeah he really messed up with the styling rating, this is the best-looking "minivan" I have ever seen, cuz it does look like an SUV
It doesn't even deserve a 10/10 on styling, it's still a minivan. They're all boring and only for people who have 8 kids.
@mo gamer I agree.
Don't like at all!!
Tbh if I had the money I'd buy it .I don't even have kids but this thing is sexy
I have been watching Kia carnival videos since they launched this thing. Doug you have by the best demonstration and explanation of the VIP seats.
My family bought a 2020 Kia Carnival last year, and we all love it. It looks really good inside and out, not so much in your face luxurious or aggressive as the 2021 or 2022 models, but still aggressive enough that the little cars are intimidated. The car's a diesel, sounds like a truck on the outside but once you get in you can't hear a thing, it's one of the quietest cars (on the inside) I've ever been in. The middle row has 3 normal seats instead of 2 luxury seats, which puts it as an 8 seater (back row still has 3), and every seat is big enough to fit any of us. The boot is basically exactly the same.
*Personally, I love the styling, it’s so in your face luxury*
KIA Hyundai cars catch fire.
@@kpopkpop5235 no they don't my mom has a 2013 Hyundai santa fe sport with 170,000 miles and no problems, and my sister got the kis k5 and haven't had any problems with it either
@@kpopkpop5235 kia and Hyundai have had some of the most reliable cars for years. Along with warranties that can't be matched. They started rough in the US but have been great cars for about 10 yrs.
Well you can thank *KN*
@@jamalpeoples3736 Are you crazy? Have you ever forgotten about Honda and Toyota??
Kia has stepped up their game massively over the last few years. They know their target customer extremely well and the apps for the 2nd row passengers prove it 100%.
yeah, this thing is looking like my next purchase after stinger
cuz of the germans ;)
@@meenamjah Better get yourself a good fire extinguisher.
Agreed
Interior features seems like how mercedes would do
5:10 “k backwards n” 😂 now nobody can unsee that!! Well played!!
Thank you for reviewing the K backwards N branded minivan. I LOLed
That's the most SUV looking minivan I've ever seen. It actually looks good!!
SUV = Sport Utility Van :P
Looks good for sure! Nice minivan…
@@guildrich how about Crossover Sport Van, which is what GM called their minivans from 2005-2008. The Chevy Uplander, Buick Terraza, Saturn Relay, and Pontiac Montana SV6. The forgotten GM minivans that no one bought, that they attempted to make look like an SUV. I’d say they did a much better job a minivans that didn’t try to fake their identity like the Chevy Astro and GMC Safari(1985-2005) and Chevy Lumina APV, Oldsmobile Silhouette, and Pontiac Trans Sport(1990-1996) and the Chevy Venture and Pontiac Montana(1997-2004)
@@guildrich lol. you're right
Meanwhile, other car manufacturers: Calling MPVs an "SUV" and calling it a day.
Doug, the car isn't designed for kids, they are an afterthought. The car is designed to shuffle kpop stars from one place to another around seoul.
Just to add. The only reason auto companies make these complicated $50k minivans, is to make extra $$ when those toys (heated and cooled seats, panoramic sunroof, 11 inch screens) all start to break. Kids will be kids and they will break anything they can find. I feel sorry for the parents foolish enough to buy these vehicles at full price. Additionally, why bother with a 10 year 100k warranty if the transmission or engine grenades itself?
Wait a minute, is that why the driver can zoom the ceiling mounted backrow camera in order to...
@@FrenchArrogance PLS NO LMAOOO
@@FrenchArrogance HAHAHAHHAAHH
@@FrenchArrogance BRUH
you just answered so many questions. I seen this car a few times and I was insanely confused with the Badge.. even tried to follow one around to see what kind of car it was...
Doug, another great video!
Minivans are goldmines of quirks and features IMO
Btw, I'm still waiting for the Dodge RAM Van video that you teased in the Durango Hellcat video.
THIIIIIISSSSSSSSS video is a masterpiece.
It gets more views than supercars lol
Yeah they’re an entire carnival!
RAM Van...I think that was the nickname of my uncles van from the 70’s
@@portermcsorley I mean, probably wasn't a nickname. Dodge has made Ram trucks and vans for a long time. Unless that was supposed to be some kind of weird sex joke? In which case, could still be a Dodge Ram van honestly
@@thecianinator ‘twas a sex joke.
I keep telling people. Kia has been, for a while, stepping up their game.
I remember seeing the 'Kia GT' concept in 2010-ish. I (along with a lot of people) thought it was ridiculous that a cheap car company that was known for 20 year old Spectras to venture into that market. That turned into the Stinger, and it turns out, it's pretty great.
They should cancel the kia soul makes them look bad lol
@@darksbacon5856 YES. Or at least redesign into a proper crossover. It's just a Scion xB, and the box trend is dead.
@@spencergeorge4941 you say its dead yet they still sell for some reason.
Kia didn’t really have anywhere to go but up from their early 2000’s days.
Well, over Asia, canivan is mainly use as the taxi or services vehicle. Therefore, it’s featured is quite stunning to me.
All right this is the second review I’ve seen about accessing the third row! So basically you get into the second row and you go into the middle between the two seats to access the back.
Everyone has that one friend who's fairly good looking, but nothing crazy, and then you meet their sibling and their sibling is wildly attractive, that's the vibe this minivan is giving me compared to other minivans.
Tf
Their weird but wildly attractive sibling.
I agree 100%. This car is sexy as fuck lol
But Doug still gives a 5 for styling.
At first glance I thought it was an SUV.
Looks good, I'd drive it.
Kia is a completely different company now than they were 10-15 years ago. They’ve really stepped it up lately. No longer just simple economy cars.
european engineer recruitment few years ago...bmw..vw group...etc.... 🔥🔥🔥
They are still " Kill in Action" vehicles... crapy cars that barely run for 5 years .. then you junk them.
@@Raja221 kill in action vehicle 🤣🤣🤣 you mean GM and ford garbage, break after a year
@@gabrielhoegarden7140 What are you on about? I own a kia, and a ford, and both have been insanely reliable thus far. The Ford hasn't has an issue thus far, its only 5 years old, but its off to a great start, and the kia has only had a few mild repairs.
@@Raja221 My family has owned a kia for 12 years, it's been great.
This is the nicest minivan I have ever seen! And only 50K? Sold!
You are the man. AWESOME review. Yours was one of a few reviews that really helped us make our decision. We actually just bought a 2022 LX Seat Package Carnival and we really like it. After researched every minivan/MPV option VERY thoroughly we concluded that Carnival really has the best total package nailed, all things considered. Those include storage space, leg room, interior/exterior SUV design, more ground clearance, safety, better reliability than all other options in recent years, very respectable gas mileage (we’re getting 30+ on highway), unrivaled infotainment user experience, and the best warranty in the business. We used to be a Honda family but it feels like Honda has stopped trying (feels cheap, much less reliable, and VERY cramped drivers seat leg area), Chrysler interior still feels old school (with lackluster long-term satisfaction), and Toyota will cost you premium dollars for hybrid and AWD (but mechanics tell me that those options lead to more expensive maintenance in the long run). Regarding AWD, I discovered a great RUclips video showing how snow tires (plus traction control) make a much bigger difference than having AWD in the winter. And the Carnival has the BEST 2nd row center/8th seat (especially vs Honda and Toyota), reversible (rear-facing 2nd row option), and with the LX seat package we can remove 2nd row seats if we need to. Toyota’s CEO recently admitted that Hyundai/Kia is the one brand family that worries him when considering their competition. For good reason.
Agreed. I just bought one today. All of the above mentioned. Plus being able to fit two read facing car seats and be comfortable adults in the front was a huge deal.
Getting good snow tires makes a huge difference in drivability. I do it with my Sonata and I laugh at snow days or drifted snow on roadways. The biggest lie about all season tires is how they only perform above freezing.
So on point! Yes totally agree with all this and you just confirmed all our research in which can we will but next. Kia is becoming amazing! Toyota was stupid to only have a hybrid version (yes maint is much more! We have a hybrid car and wont buy another hybrid!) and yes honda is getting so outdated. Great comments thanks!
After 8 months of usage, what is your impression of the vehicle? And do we have to take the seat package for the seats in the SX model to swivel around? None of the review videos show that feature.
high Ground clearance is worst for vehicles, They ruin the driving feel of cars they affect centre of gravity and make cars slower.
@@TheoriginalBMT I always see 4WD SUVs and Trucks in the ditch because they think they can go over 60 mph with all seasons, I cruise at a 50 mph with snow tires and RWD in a corvette or sometimes the FWD honda odyssey and laugh at every SUV in the ditch, pretty funny experience
Can’t wait to see the Detail Geek do a disaster detail on one of these
I completely forgot that guy existed
@@lil0of Rude 😂
bruh fax😂
TRUE
People don’t understand if you have a family, minivans are better than that Tahoe or Suburban you’re thinking of and will last you infinitely longer and actually made for families.
Tahoe or Suburbans are for towing. And a lot of single, no kid couples have them, so not as much stigma
Kia stinger :D
Is it good for small families asking for a friend
I like them and I think they are getting even better, it's not just about having little kids, actually they are amazing for hauling people long trips.
if you’re a family with young children, yeah, but not if you have adolescents or are a family of adults, you need the legroom and headspace of a suburban-type suv
@@mechanicalmonkee6262 the stinger is not for kids really, it’s a sports sedan. if you want something for kids, buy something bigger
Amazing review as always Doug. I’d buy this today! Dad of 4; 2 play sports 🏐 🏈
9:20 I don't know why they would bring that feature over here either - in Korea, private drivers usually use that feature to make more space in the back for their customers by folding the seat forward
The way Doug says ‘AND’ in between sentences-gives me great comfort, in knowing that more features and quirks are coming my way.... ANNNND it’s obvious , Doug is excited 😎😂
“You can take a listen to one of the sounds of nature” loud scratchy crashing sounds
Ugh, right???
that too from a BOSE system
Any car stereo sounds like crap when you're hearing it via a gopro microphone.
i’d say it would sound better if he didn’t have it turned up so loud.
I really wish Mr.Demuro would use his head as a bit more than a source of noise. The turn signals on the bumper are not an "afterthought". See, Mr.Demuro, when a car stops on the side of the road due to a breakdown, what you do is TURN ON THE HAZARD LIGHTS and open the boot to take out the spare wheel and/or instruments. If the turn signals are on the door, they WILL NOT BE VISIBLE when the door is open. Hence they are located on the part of the rear panel that doesn't move when the door opens. So rather than being "weird" or "stange" it is actually quite clever.
I was really hoping this review was for the 11 seater model
14:18 kia: the relaxing noise of a calm sea wave on the shores on miami
me: some dude flushing a toilet in a gas station in the middle of nowhere
😂😂😂 Hyundai/Kia is wearing out this useless Sounds of Nature feature. It's cute I guess but I really don't see the point of it.
I was thinking the exact same thing! You beat me to it.
While it indeed isn’t ideal to have those front seat controls in the back row (inciting trolling), it’s probably added so that you can move the front seat to clear more space for the feet/leg pad if you want to get in that ‘premium position’. If the seat is too close to your legs they will literally get stuck when folding up...
mhm.
@@TheFalseShepphard Loll
Front passenger seats do come with sensors to detect passengers to turn off airbags and dash seat belt sign if no one is present. They can utilize the very same sensor to turn off those controls if a front passenger is sitting. If Kia engineers are smart enough, they should be implementing that.
@@Jabid21 your hired....
I also wonder since it's an international vehicle did they focus for countries that use mini vans a lot as luxury limos, and taxis.
Saw it in person. And dang its super luxurious looking!
The pause on K backwards N, I thought my screen froze til I saw him fighting back a laugh 😂
"This is the most powerful van."
Dodge engineer, snorting a line of coke: "Just fucking wait Doug..."
Can't wait until they put a hellcat motor in a Town and country 😂😂
Pacifica Demon when?
Chrysler Town and Country "Fire and Brimstone" Edition, now with a 707HP 6.2L Super Charged Hemi.
Yeah and it will rust to shit in 5 years. #mopar
@@ColdHeritage I would pay extra to rebadge a T&C as the "Chrysler Fire and Brimstone", if it was a Hellcat version.
In Asian countries minivans are very luxurious and for executives and such. That's why the backseat has the ability to move the front seats, because Executive Power.
Why isn't it true for other places
@@HeortirtheWoodwarden because in places like America and Europe too probably, minivans are mostly just for familys, and suvs and large sedans are for chauffeurs.
@@HeortirtheWoodwarden marketing and hating on rich folks
Yeah, also used by shuttle companies or small tour operators
And that's why Kia messed up the packaging so badly. You can't get a decently equiped carnival without those pointless dentist chairs. In north America minivans are for families not for executives.
I want this car just so my friends can chauffeur me around haha
Reviews Doug makes on vehicles like this could benefit from safety information. Since it’s not as important to focus on performance, use the time on other aspects like safety, which would be helpful. And mileage, (like he touches upon in this vid).
The reasoning for the front passenger seat controller is that in Korea, the Carnival is used often for VIP transport and culturally, the most important person sits in the right passenger seat, hence the controls for the front seat that is accessible from the rear
Same in india
@l yes..that feature is there so that the vip sitting there has more room...when he has the the seat fully reclined
Fr in japan they had modded Toyota minivans. They don’t care what their car looks like, they just want top tier luxury
I can also see a instances where the passenger goes to the back to feed the baby and uses the buttons on the front seat to give themself more leg room.
Same in Brazil. And It os so obvious, Doug's innability to imagine that shows How blindsided he is.
As someone who lived in South Korea, I can confidently say that the Carnival isn’t targeted at families with young children. They’re usually used by entertainment groups for idols or rich teenagers to be driven around by a chauffeur.
Do those rich teens also like baby shark?
So like Toyota Granvia? Those are sick
As someone who lives in SE Asia, i wonder how doug would react to luxury MPVs (as it classed in here) like Toyota Alphard, Lexus LM350, or Nissan Elgrand
개소리야…… 연예인이 많으면 얼마나 많다고ㅋㅋㅋ 대부분은 일반 가정에서 쓰지 연예인은 극소수고
Well, not really
Dang I never thought I'd say this, but thats a good looking minivan!
My first car was an odyssey and boy I had fun in it- techno music, going fast, running away from cops, destroying my bumper, scratching up the van, my van was always packed with friends, girls and everyone who needed a ride- the only thing it was missing was a disco ball- I was thinking of putting one but decided not to and guess what…. I still have the odyssey til today but I have bought myself an suv and now just chilling like a villain.
The way 3rd row seats get into floor to provide a flat surface is amazingly clever.
Lol! Honda has the patent on that since like the 90's!
Lol yea every minivan has that. Sienna seats fold just like these
On my Town and County the second and third seats fold into the floor.
@@devonking5710 my whole van folds into itself
The lounge seats are so the parents can force the teenagers to drive on the road trip while the adults sleep the whole time
That is totally accurate in my asian country 🤣🤣🤣
Nobody will buy those luxury seats for small kids, that's for sure 😂
Not sure if it was mentioned but the Odyssey has a feature called "magic slide" (that they highlighted in some videos; they somehow invoke godzilla with how helpful it is) where the middle row seats separate and (more Doug friendly) the Mazda MPV had something called "side by slide" middle row seats in their now defunct minivan.
His review deserves waay more praise for how the vehicle looks. It is the first minivsn to NOT LOOK LIKE A MINIVAN. I am super impressed. Seems like many people in the comments are as well.
When I was a kid we had to sit on a bench seat and entertain ourselves.
Now kids have this.
The kids entertainment isn't for the kids, it's for the parents to not have to deal with the kids. As my father said, the best thing he ever bought for himself was a gameboy for me.
Thats technology. Get used to it bro.
Ok boomer
Doug is a little too harsh on the interior tech like he’s expecting it to also calculate your heart rate and bmi also at this point.
Lol was thinking the same thing. He stresses its a minivan so much and then nitpicks the digital gauge cluster cause it doesn't change like sports cars 🤦♂️🤣
@@LoneWolfHustle The Audi A4 is cheaper with a better digital dash in 2017. It's not just sports cars, its just that the Kia digital dash is underwhelming.
@@adamchandley2968 Audi is a premium brand of Volkswagen. Kia isn't premium tho
@Manny Rosy Regardless of the model Audi is a premium brand.
The digital dash is not great. Almost no information and customization. The RAV4 I am driving has far more and it has virtually nothing.
I was fall in love with the Sienna but now it's different, I love this carnaval
Bought a carnival and a k5 and WE LOVE THEM!!!
The camera in the back has a better camera quality than 99% of security cameras..
You know nothing about security cameras I see...
@@Fykkyr whoever spends time educating themselves in security cameras doesn’t have a social life what so ever.
😂
@@tristana.8304 atleast I know basics of everything rather than nothing at all :) #whyusomad #lowiq
@@Fykkyr Oh boy, I hate to burst your bubble but the " basics of everything " are not security cameras. ps; hashtags make you look stupid during a dispute. Also, someones IQ has nothing to do with security cameras, so clearly you don't know " the basics of everything " have a good day, love.
5:09 I can not stop watching this part.
IKR🤣🤣
I love that on the back seat screens they have twitch lol, you can chill and watch flight reacts rage at 2k in a $50,000 kia minivan lmao.
I was thinking the same thing
I was able to get a SX. Would’ve got the Prestige but I needed 8 seats 😌. I LOVE this car!!!
Buy 2 cars
As an Australian I can’t wait to hear the cricket conversations.
Edit: oh, not that type of cricket
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No, but at least we can get the diesel which lacks power but has (allegedly) good economy
How are the chinese cars going in Australia? Are hongqi, byd and wey on sale already? Here in Norway we got the first hongqi dealers finally
Yeah I reckon the Boxing Day Test on permanent loop would be a pretty good relaxing chilled vibe.
@@jslonisch Howzat!!!!
me: the max. 160 MPH on the dash and these "sporty" gauges look hilarious in a family van.
kia: 290 HP
me: nevermind.
How did we get here? 😂
I remember in the 90s we were lucky to get 150 horsepower!
@@jamesgarvey8402 For real my 2017 Hyundai Ioniq hybrid has a fucking sport mode that wrecks civic Si's and the like up until about 2013 maybe even later models ands its a hybrid lol.
Pushin 300 HP for a minivan is still insane. Definitely not necessary but nice to have the power when you need to accelerate quickly on the way to soccer practice.
Pacifica is 287 and honda is 280. 290 is not a big improvement
The most humorous and most expressive
Car journalists ever in the world
This is really cool! SUV styling and Van practicality !! SLAM DUNK
Mom: "where are you, I've been trying to reach you for an hour!"
Son: "I'm at the beach, can't you hear the waves?"
At some point, I bet the mom would have memorized the ocean sounds
When a 50 thousand dollar minivan is more luxurious than my uncle's 50 thousand dollar m3
Rather have the M3
He made the right choice.
@@grahamstefaan no m3 can provide u with sounds of nature, so he didn't
Well an M3 isn't designed to be luxurious, but I see your point.
@@Mamerto. who needs the sounds of nature when you have the glorious inline 6
I literally did not see the backward N logo in the new kia logo till now after doug telling us i cannot unsee the N now
Great Review... Doug. Best looking Minivan SUV crossover I have seen. I really like the sound of the toilet flushing, Lol K N thought of everything. How is engine reliability? The iVECT 10 speed automatic with paddel shifters and 280 hp on the Odyssey is pretty nice... and almost bulletproof.