@@boppernostopper8598 yeah I have no idea what their gpus are about. Like I remeber r9 and stuff. Then like Vega came out and like radeon 7. I dont understand any of it. To be fair I wasnt paying attention to any of their stuff ar the time. But 5000 series and 6000 series make sense. So they should just keep that up. Lol. I cant wait until they release another 9700 and 9800 pro. That will be a nostalgia trip for me.
it's kind of insane how AMD is fighting a war on 2 fronts (CPU + GPU), is destroying intel on the CPU front, and is competitive with nvidia on GPUs. It's truly impressive how Dr. Lisa Su turned this company around.
@@bobhanson1037 Clearly behind in GPU, back and forth in single threaded CPU, clearly ahead in multithreaded CPU, behind in mobile APU. You don't have to misrepresent things to still be impressed by what they are doing.
@@itsPovich yeah im with jay there, i think the next round of cards is going to be NASTY. ryzen 5k is just silly good, and the 6000 gpus i think caught nvidia a little off guard, because the only thing they keep pushing on is the raytracing stuff. well, if you dont play anything that uses it, who cares? in those instances, it's literally a toss up. it's been a really long time since that was a thing!
@@bobhanson1037 they're indeed behind on upscaling, but remember that Fidelity FX will be on all cards (including Nvidia) PS5 and XBOX Series S/X as well, not just Nvidia RTX So much more games will have it And DLSS is a hell to implement (in Warzone your reticle even became misaligned with DLSS on) So I think game studios will drop DLSS real soon and Fidelity FX will become much better really quickly because it's used by much more players
I went from intel my whole life to a 3600x in the middle of last year, to a 5800x at the start of this year. I was incredibly surprised when i experienced zero weirdness throughout my entire time with the platform. Ryzen has run flawlessly for me for about a year now.
Indeed, most of the bugs and glitches are gone around the 3000 series launch. I was an early adopter with the R5 1600 and there were definitely apps and games that had weird issues (I still remember having weird audio glitches in Battlefield 4 from overclocking the CPU), but honestly it wasn't as bad as I expected from a first gen product. A year of BIOS updates later it works flawlessly.
For a background in my PC enthusiast hobby, I went from using the i7-3820 to a i7-6800K to a 2700x, and now a 5900x. I was extremely dumb with the Intel products then, probably, but switching to Ryzen I had less issues than with those intel CPUs. I probably should have stuck with the high end basic desktop intel CPUs instead of the lower end X series, but I, being dumb about it at the time thought "More cores=always better than lower cores!" which wasn't exactly true at the time of those CPUs.
Hey Jay, I've been building computers since the introduction of the IBM XT when components started becoming available, BUT, I just finished my very first AMD build (first build I ever attempted cable management on - what a difference in appearance)! Longtime Intel fanboy I built office machines, gamers, extreme over clockers without ever considering AMD (even though they froze much colder)! Then I watched as Intel lost their mojo and let my gamer age waiting for something to get excited about (I'd retired from OCing years ago), and then I started reading about something called Ryzen and figured it was time to update the gamer. Unfortunately, being of a technical background I couldn't just buy a cheap B550 and based my build on the ROG Crosshair viii, Ryzen 7 5800x (couldn't afford the 9 series), 32gb ram and 1TB Samsung 980 Pro NvME, couldn't upgrade my RTX2080 OC. So far, it's running like a dream in a V-71 with a AIO and a LOT of fans (thermals are very good). Not sure I'll ever go back to Intel- I'm 70 and don't think they can turn it around fast enough lol. AND - PROPS TO YOU! I've seen a few leaderboards since building this rig and have seen your name directly below Vince himself on several occasions - no small feat!
Thats awesome, it mustve be incredible to see the consumer computer grow up like that. i just built my first pc in 2019 and im 24. just barely begining my journey
I've been on the 1950X since 2017 and I am definitely feeling the need to upgrade, still waiting for Zen 3 Threadripper or might just end up going for 5950X Memory issues are still a problem with my board (Zenith Extreme), I have to run my memory at DDR4-2133, any higher and I get blue screens in Premiere. Lately I have to use game mode (basically only using 8 of the 16 cores) otherwise random issues in Windows when opening apps where they take for ever, haven't tried a fresh Windows install yet. Overall it's been good, and was a huge upgrade over my i7-950 lol, but yeah kind of over all the 1st gen issues.
I remember seeing an iFixit ad on Facebook, and basically all of the thousands of reviews was just Jayz's fans quoting his ad. About two weeks later, the new ad started running. I think they appreciate the level of memery that he imparted on the brand.
The point of this video is that competition is very important in keeping you as a customer happy. And that's why never let any company get away with any anti-competitive move, we don't want Inter bribing to happen again like in the Pentium era. We need healthy competition.
Yes I am glad this is happening for nvidia the 3000 and 6000 series launch had the chance to become the next big thing if not for the shortage. Also on gaming side after Sony humiliated both MS and Nintendo with the ps4 last gen. They're both coming back stronger than ever, so it's great they didn't just let Sony do what they want. Competition breeds innovation and unlike intel, sony and Nvidia aren't just going to stand there watching
I have a 5800X that's randomly power cycling, it killed my HDD and lost power. AMD will RMA it but that will take time, trying to get my local PC store to reproduce it is also taking time because it happens less often with newer BIOSes and it's more frequent with certain hardware setups and I'm sure they weren't listening. I'm not the only one with this issue but I know AMD will fix it and I should of unplugged my HDD while troubleshooting. Even still I'm proud to have a 5800X and a 6900XT because it feels good to support competition again. It's so exciting to watch the progress again, I haven't seen progress like this since the 90's.
@no Varian Wii u was such a flop, they had to scrap it after 5 years and bring the switch. The switch is the same gen as ps5 and Series X, underpowered as it is. And yes the switch is a massive success and Nintendo is strong now
I love what AMD has done for the desktop, not just for their own product, but Intel has had to drop their prices too - they're starting to do the same to nvidia and hopefully they can really hit home with the next generation
Sadly many of the first gen 370x boards are garbage and cost 400$ or more. Myself i have a gaming k5? fucking GARBAGE. busted voltages, awful ram support, buggy starts, broken dual bios. ectect. oh and the board itself has a ground somewhere so studio speakers make a screeching sound even through its "special audio lanes" in summery, Yup.
Agreed at the start of the Ryzen 1000 series it was a little bit messy. Especially memory support. But those systems with the latest bios versions run really well. Most issues where resolved when Ryzen 2000 came out.
We need a playlist of all these “talking point” videos that are great to listen to even without watching. This stuff is my jam for transitioning to bed time
any video can be a talking head video to sleep to if you so desire, and the plus side is that you get to watch jayz/ltt/gn videos twice because you were sleeping the first time you watched/listened it lmao
I just built my first computer, using a lot of this channels videos as guides for some of the subtle aspects of building, so thank you for that. It is an Ryzen 5 5600x gaming machine, and I had been Intel for many years. I love it, it works beautiful, and the customer service was phenomenal when I had an issue with the motherboard BIOS and the chip. Part of my choice.came from reviews about how AMD has really stepped up the quality, and I can attest to the performance. Its awesome. Thanks Jay.
I’m happy AMD has given Intel a bloody nose , it helps on forcing them to progress cause they have been kinda lacking last few years . I’m hoping they will come back swinging in the next year or so
@Seer-of-things end Yep the difference in launch prices for the ryzen 3600 and 5600 was noticeably different and has probably given Intel a few sales back with their decently performing latest I5 which is priced a bit lower. Never thought I would see Intel as a value option.
@@jaysmudger its all business. who ever is on top determines price. regardless of amd/intel.i thought this would happen when 2nd gen ryzen got released tht they would get more and more expensive.
Switched last year to Ryzen 5 3600X after many years of i-Series CPUs. I have zero complaints, on the contrary. System is more stable and smooth than previous intel builds.
@@eatsmemunch That depends entirely on which B450 board you have. Some of the lowest end ones are awful, while others are great and you could run a 16 core in them without issue.
Good summary and great video, thanks. One point that's relevant for a significant percent of users is that AMD CPUs and GPUs have open source specification and thus open source drivers. Given the rise of gaming in Linux and the well established notoriety of poor proprietary Nvidia drivers, the open source / Linux gaming community will be first (if not already) that ditches Nvidia for AMD.
The real push is in professional markets, super computers, server farms, GPU compute where they prefer Linux generally, and may need open drivers for security or customization reasons. The Linux gamer market is almost non existent comparatively. And while general Gfx drivers from nvdia are trash on Linux, nVidia has CUDA which is a real contender for GPU compute, AMD is more Vulcan and openCL compliant but a lot of folks like the advantages of CUDA enough to justify the proprietary vendor lock-in issues.(And these are big-metal buyers so they do their research.) I use all AMD on Linux but I don't deal with GPU compute.
I've run a 2600X for about 3 years now, it's running a lot and i've experienced 0 issues. I can't feel any stability difference over my previous intel build. I have 2 nephews and 1 of their friends running ryzen and they have all been equally stable. My work laptop is also ryzen based and i've not had a single issue yet, i primarily use sleep mode and hardly ever reboot it.
My 1600 was also stable...this was the most stable system I've ever owned.... Usually, with my workloads, I have to reinstall Win10 every 1 or 2 times a year... This one? It's the first one after I bought this system back at 2018 I'm considering giving this one to my daughter, and wanna build a newer one with 3000 or newer series... Loving Ryzen so far
I've run a R5-2600 for almost a year (got it Christmas 2020) after upgrading from my laptop (Intel Core I5-8300H) and its been amazing, super reliable. The only issue I've ever had was annoying USB dropout issues but that was fixed after updating my BIOS.
yes if Intel just lets AMD run away with the lead they'll get too comfortable. Healthy competition breeds innovation, and AMD isn't a charity... it's a company
It's not just end users. Intel and AMD both need each other. They're the only two companies in the world who can manufacture X86 CPUs. If one of them stopped or went under (which was a very real possibility for AMD prior to Zen), the other would be hit by regulations because they'd have a monopoly on X86 CPUs. In other words, they're both better off with the other company being competitive.
Let Intel suffer for a few more years, so Amd can build up their financial reserves. Intel used very dirty practices to suppress Amd for about 2 decades, I remember motherboards manufactures were sanctioned when they manufactured Athlon mainboards. At the moment Intel has no answer, they will suffer a few more years, good..
@@rudypieplenbosch6752 and by suffering you mean making record profits and outselling amd in every market? I don't think intel are suffering anywhere near as much as amd fans think. During their worst year to date, they made 13 times more money than amd. I genuinely believe anyone who thinks intel is threatened by amd to be a complete twat.
@@EarlHare 2018 was last year. 2016 was also last year. 2014 is two years ago. 2010 is five years ago. 2017 is yesterday, but 2015 is also yesterday. I dont make the rules, thats how time works.
I myself have been on Ryzen for almost a year since I built my first Rig across 3 separate processors. Started my first rig with a 3600 I believe, worked beautifully and had 0 issues outside of some odd slow downs, that one ended up in my cousins rig and still works flawlessly. Mine is now a 3800x, absolutely flawless outside of some Ram XMP oddities and weirdness but that resolves itself when I swapped my MOBO, and I now have a second system running a 2600 (all Ryzen 7) for my girlfriend and again works flawlessly with 0 issues. I am all in for Ryzen and will likely continue to stay with that platform. Lisa Su has done a truly outstanding job turning AMD around and the company hit it out of the park repeatedly with Ryzen, and it only gets better as the platform gets more support from Motherboard manufacturers and other companies. #TeamRed
I will continue to support Lisa Su’s AMD. As she made it possible for myself and millions on budgets to still get high end setups with better results than competition . In my opinion, that itself is enough to dethrone Intel. Edit: Didn’t realise this would get soo many likes. Thanks guys, Go AMD, you rock 👊
I moved to AMD for the simple reason Intel at the time made you pay extra for just a few more PCIe lanes, on top the ridiculous price of the CPU. Fuck that, ended up just getting a Threadripper with 64 lanes instead of a silly 44 that costs 2x as much (once you bought that stupid module that unlocked them all).
I've been running Ryzen since the first-gen. I understand what you mean by "weird issues" back when it was new. Honestly, working with that until the beginning of this year (where I upgraded to a 3950x, same motherboard and RAM), it became stable pretty fast and after a short while I forgot about the early "growing pains". Been really happy with the capabilities with the platform overall, as someone that both games and does content creation.
I've gone full AMD in 2019. Ryzen 5 3600x and RX5700XT. Been using them for games, music production, live instrument tracking, number crunching, data analysis, and recently generative adversarial networks, machine learning etc. I only have one single complaint. Took a couple firmware updates to stop ocassional issues with RAM and VRAM frequencies in both items. Other than that, flawless operation throughout. Happy enough and confident that I'm also buying a laptop with Ryzen 7 5800H.
Been on my first gen Ryzen 1700x with 370 chipset from 2017, initial problems with RAM ofcourse! But the build is quite stable now. By the way it running overclocked to 3750 GHZ stable. Basically because of bios updates. Even running a 5700XT graphics card. I do all my software work, compiling etc and my gaming on this machine. Migrating to a 5900X with 550 chipset now. Got some serious OS compiling workloads that will benefit. Gaming will benefit ofcourse but didnt upgrade for that..
Right! I literally remember his 10k subscribers video. And his days of his talking head videos whilst playing Battlefield 3 on his FX8350. We've been in it for the long haul.
When I upgraded to an RTX 3090 in my gaming rig, I experienced the same sort of shutdowns Jay is describing. It turns out that there was a problem with the EVGA 750 GA Gold power supplies in that they had trouble dealing with the draw spikes that 3000 series cards demand. I switched to a Corsair RMX 1000 PSU and am now happily overclocking my EVGA FTW3 Ultra RTX 3090 past 2100mhz.
the 3090 is not a gaming gpu, so that's your first mistake. Im going to bet you also used the chained connectors off the psu instead of using 3 separate pcie to balance the wattage on each cable. My guess is you don't know what you're building and why you wanted to build it
Huh, interesting, I have a different EVGA power supply in the 750 watt class and AMD a Saphire Nitro+ 5700xt that's had similar issues, deffinitly going to check out a Corsair power supply as part of my next couple upgrade parts. Thanks!
@Stefan actually works great for gaming I have a asus strix 3090 and a game and video edit with it and it’s sick so I don’t know what your talking about
@@ghomerhust Already reported his account. He's not stopping, and this is not the first time I reported him. Religious people seem to think they can do just about anything without consequences.
ive used both for many years (been building systems since the late 1990s) and im glad my rendering rig and gaming rig both run AMD chips. rock solid, cheaper, and faaaaaaast
I started on AMD with Bulldozer, and have raised my budget as AMD has raised their competitive level. Only thing I would recommend non-AMD hardware for is Nvidia GPUs for hardware accelerated encoding. Otherwise, the Intel systems I've built since just for the experience have been very meh.
@@chonkusdonkus Components? Most water cooler builds I've seen, only use the fluids to cool the CPU directly. The heat inside the cabinet as well as GPU cooling is done with fans blowing the heat out of the cabinet. No water cooling on those components. To truly take advantage of all the pros of water cooling, most would need a custom setup with fluids cooling both the CPU, GPU and motherboard directly.
I'm the "semi-professional IT guy" for a relative's design studio. Throughout the last two years, as some of their systems age and require upgrades, I've never bought a platform other than AMD (well, if you discount that time when I bought a raspberry pi as a network device). Ryzen 2000s, 3000s, and most recently one 5000s. Their 3D rendering workstation for example, has a 16C32T 3950X, 64G Ram, a 2080 super, and 1T SSD + 4T HDD of storage. Built it in 2020 June. I spent less than 2.5K USD on parts, which was UNIMAGINABLE when Intel had the throne. With that machine, now they can render large 3D scenes by themselves instead of outsourcing. In fact I built another system last week - it's a rack mounted 4U NAS with 12 drive bays. Now that might not sound impressive, but in my defence there's severe size and noise restrictions, so of course I custom built everything. And guess what, AMD comes to the rescue again. Unlike Intel, AMD at least had the decency to leave ECC enabled on their consumer CPUs, so that MBs CAN support it if they wish. So I grabbed an Asrock B550m Steel Legend (since it explicitly supports ECC), a R5 3600, and 2x Micron 16G@3200Mhz ECC UDIMMs for just about 400USD. It's an absolute steal considering similar server-grade HW would cost literally 3x as much. Also memtest86 reports ECC enabled without any configuration at all! I spent about 2 days setting up rhel8, zfs, samba, etc, and now all that's left to do is to wait for my 10GbE NIC to arrive in the mail, and it will be ready for production. Overall I'm super happy with all the Ryzen products I've purchased/procured. As of Intel? Let's just say that the last Intel chip I purchased was the 7700K... I remember feeling ripped off even before I paid.
Just moved to Ryzen 9 after years of Intel. I love it. No weird issues. Only “complaint” is that overclocking and chip specification documentation is rare. But it really doesn’t need it as Jay says in the vid. Great video!
AMD Reddit and overclock dot net forum have you covered. You'd be better off reading and learning, but if you ask questions, they'll likely get answered. Lots of info, screenshots and OC settings are shared. It's not Voodoo, there's plenty of AMD whisperers out that if you're looking to eek every last bit of performance. For stability, I recommend backing off a bit though. Just depends on what your use case and priorities are.
@@inkoalawetrust Nah, it's AMD themselves. Jay never mentions it but AMD makes microcode updates called AGESAs.. and then the motherboard companies take that AGESA, test and customize it for each board. Some boards are better than others (luck, skill or otherwise) but generally a lot of the problems are AGESA specific not motherboard maker specific. In truth, it's a combination of both but the problem is that getting a good vs bad board is luck of the draw. Over time.. the AGESA versions improve everything, and all motherboard makers level out. It's really hard to recommend one over the other because it's a lottery. The best recommendation is to try and allow for 6 months after a CPU release to iron all of these things out. There might be board specific issues, but they are quite rare. It's usually AGESA related and it's random in terms of which board makers fix it earlier. Sometimes MSI might be faster, sometimes ASUS.. but there's no perfect option every time. It's random. Time and future AGESA versions average everything out over time.
I've been running Ryzen since 1st gen (1700 OC'd to 4.0 for 3 years) and I ran into many of the same issues. That being said, the jump from 1st gen to 5000 series is remarkable. Side note on OC'n: there isn't much you can do on 5000 series, but you can still adjust the max OC offset in PBO to actually punch a bit over it's usual weight. Actually was able to get my 5600X boosting to 4850Mhz. All-core OC really hasn't been worth it since the Zen+ and never really was in comparison against Intel. Side-side note on OC: tuning memory subtimings yields better performance gains in general than CPU frequency.
I love hearing you talk tech man, i honestly wish i could get a job building rigs, hearing tech pleases my ears in a way only gaming on the highest difficulty does
I did two builds this year. My first ever build earlier this year was with a 5600x and the performance was pretty awesome. Just finished my second build with a 5900x and my god the performance is just fantastic! This generation of Ryzen CPU makes it easier to support AMD. Can't wait to see what they come up with the next gen CPU/GPUs.
I continue to use a R5 1600 on Crosshair 6. I cool it with 6 pipe air cooler. At 1st it was not that good on a CH6. BUT the current BIOS is happy with 3.9Ghz and 3200 speed RAM. It also runs a R9 390X real well that way. I also have a R7 3800X. But when running it with a what you can buy with $300 GPU? No real point, unless you want or need MOAR cores. Now you can get new 2600s for $175. That and a good B550, oh yeah. With good tight timing 3200/3600 RAM? Good for any Nvidia that ends with 60 or a AMD 5600XT. If you can find one for lees than a arm or leg. Fasser GPUs? Need the arm and leg. The reason I bought a x570 was the I got one of those CH6 that is not compatible with 3000 series CPUs. Not all CH6s have the chip that causes that. CH7s & CH8s are really good. But not all the features are really needed for most computing. Now the Asrock x570 Steel Legend is waiting for a GPU. So it just sits. I still have a GTX 690X. I have discovered over the years that OCing GPUs is not a good idea. Even if you water cool them. The GTX 690 was one of those that OC was pretty much useless. Same thing with the 390X. All the others are dead. Yes the 6800XT or a 3080 is fine with a 5600X CPU. It has enough horsepower and speed to run it. The CPU will be waiting on it. Yes it will do fine with a 6800XT or a 3080Ti Yep a $300 CPU (5600X)and a $1800 AMD 6800XT GPU? Or a 3080Ti for $3700? Not exactly what I would call a bargain at any price.
I've now had the pleasure of having 2 ryzen systems and all I can say is it goes about its business without a hassle. Playing games, hosting web based learning, etc. I could not be happier. The systems were a 2700x and now a 3700x.
I like how your daughter said she did not like your jokes, but she loved them for she was laughing at them. lol I can't wait for the next Video. Happy Father's Day Jay
I had to laugh at my father's jokes. It wasn't out of fear of a punishment, but because he would take the silence as a cue to tell worse dad jokes. That man had a special power of always finishing a worse dad joke, so I had no choice but laugh. 🤣
I knew the Ryzen would be great, I bought mine day one and it's still running great. I'm glad a lot of people have them because we need competition and we need far less of Intel.
Early ryzen adopter here, i can say with confidence that the problems are now being solved within days of happening the support from the mobo vendors is crazy. No weird stuff happened to me for at least 2 years
Same thing here with my 1700x I am fairly happy I bought in in march of 2017... I think it will press on till march 2022 and I will get AM5. I am fairly happy with value I got of this rig (and it will likely get moved to my parents home as my "weekend" PC. It aged fairly well.
I've been using a Ryzen 5 3600 since the summer of 2019 and it's been absolutely amazing. That being said I've encountered some very annoying issues, such as a 2-week vacation away and my mobo not recognizing the CPU, booting issues that took me 3 days to fix, odd blue screen crashes, overclock instability, system hangs that wouldn't end, and 10-minute long bootup. These issues happen very rarely if not once, but when it does it made me really hate my pc and call it a bitch (not a nice thing to do). After I got these issues fixed tho it's been an absolute blast to use for editing, gaming, and even streaming along with the Radeon RX 5700 XT. The card gave me many issues with its drivers being finicky with certain games and god-awful cooling but have some serious performance to give if overclocked like mine. Hope this helps :D
Same here, had some weird CPU-wake issues where after putting the PC to sleep for so long, it won 't not wake up and show a display (display would flicker on but never show an image). My POST debug LEDs showed the system did respond, but almost got stuck in a restart loop when it could not wake up. For me I fixed it (it seems) by re-enabling hibernate from powershell, disabling fast-startup and disabling ErB in my UEFI IIRC. All of them caused CPU wake issues. But yeah other then that it is working great!
I was also having very random shutdowns while gaming. A friend of mine was also having the issue. Using "sfc /scannow" on command prompt fixed the issue. Mine was with a 3700X. May not fix the issues for everyone but it worked for the 2 of us.
I use that plus DISM, and nothing fixed my 1700X problems. I even built a whole new computer around that chip, but in the end I had to replace it with a Ryzen 3600 and now the problem is solved. I'm blaming the 1700X for all my problems
I honestly thought I would never go to AMD. Now running a 3900x and I couldn't be happier. They have done an incredible job. I can multi task and play games at high end specs. Love it.
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior Depends what you are looking for in a PC. AMD use to be the better bang for the buck CPU but still most people bought INTEl. Yes AMD old CPU's was junk but still good enough. People are just going to buy what they want.
Hey so I got a question. I have a 3070 sitting here at home and I am actually building my first pc! So I do know a fair bit about pcs and specs and everything but I just want to find the best cpu for my 3070. So I am debating between a ryzen 7 5800x and a ryzen 9 3900x. I just want to know what the best cpu for the 3070 is and it's a little overwhelming for me since I have never actually built a pc before lmao. You got any suggestions?
@@resttrbtw782 That depends do you already have a motherboard? And what is your budget? Let's say you already have a motherboard and you have the 300 series for example a x370 board go with the 3900x. If money is not a obstacle for you then buy new 570x motherboard and 5800x cpu. I say this because 5800x cpu will not work with 300 series motherboard. That is the long answer to answer your question simply you can't go wrong with ether cpu. So buy which ever you want the 5800x will have some better performance but will be more expensive.
@@akmid60 Hey. Thanks for the answer. The only problem I am having is that I do not know what motherboard and cpu to really get. All I have is the gpu and since there were shortages, I kind of just had to buy it right away when I got the chance if you know what I mean. Also, I was wondering what you recommend specifically (motherboard and cpu) for a 3070. My budget is around 1700 more or less and can stretch it upwards a tiny bit but I don't want to go overkill as this is my first build. I still do want the performance and fidelity which I am sure I will get if I pick the right parts to go with my gpu. Thanks
Basically second and third generation Ryzen are some of the best products AMD's put into the CPU space since the original Athlon64x2 chips. And it's about damn time!
I still run my Threadripper 1950x (1st Gen) and it runs smoothly, I haven't had any issues you described. I swapped from Intel and honestly... I just go where performance is, and for now it seems like AMD is there. Not to mention Power 4 Buck ratio is way better now.
I've been running a 3200g for just over a year and am really impressed with what it can do. Just like you said in the video, I only get instability when I turn on OC, otherwise, life without a graphics card is really pretty good*! *not that I really have an option right now!
It started with a 2600 and you said to me on Twitter to "prepare to be amazed" and now I sit here...with a Ryzen 9 5950X in my main rig not looking back at all. AMD is here and Dr.Lisa Su has steered the company back...they need to keep her direction, it's been great for AMD.
@@TechTalks685 local retailer up here in Western Canada had stock in stores about a month ago...I jumped and grabbed one at retail pricing. It's gloriously quick.
I'm still running my 1800x with 32gb ram and a 1080ti. It was an absolute pain in the butt to overclock properly and to get the ram to simply run at guaranteed speeds... But, now that it's been setup for several years that machine is rock solid, never gets turned off. It was not easy and through my tinkering thought that it wouldn't be a platform I'd recommend to others. Glad to hear they've worked out a lot of the kinks over the years.
I gave up on my r7 1700... it’s on stock speeds and that flare x cl 14 I blew $360 at the time is running at 2400... being that I don’t game hardly ever it’s all good. Just ordered 5950x and taichi razor... So I’m happily in the AMD camp despite the growing pains
@@07wrxtr1 I had to push my ram voltage up to like 1.44 before I could get both the ram and my CPU to successfully post (with CPU at 3.9ghz and ram at 3200)
my computer always locked up after going to sleep after switching to 10. disabled that feature after one time where a hard restart from that caused my computer to forgot that i had any storage plugged in until i switched the SATA cables to different ports.
same here. 4 years on 4GHz OC on water and 3200 RAM with no issues at all. crosshair vi mobo . just recently reach cpu bottleneckes with a 2080ti at 60,fps in top tier games like metro exodus and cyberpunk.
i love my R5 1600af, i overclocked it to 4Ghz. its 4 years old but i have a lower mid tier build. gtx 1650, 16gb ram, and my R5. but i still play everything at 60-150 fps depending on the game. i highly recommend for mid tier builds
Yep, have a 1600af, 16gb ram and gtx 1650 as well and I'm really happy about the build. I'm able to play a lot of games at nice fps, can edit and live stream well, and haven't had any issues. Might upgrade once GPUs come back in stock though, since the 1650 doesn't have fun with multiple monitors.
ive been running a 1950x threadripper since launch month, (had x99 for some years before that too), and its been one of the most stable platforms i've ever run. its had its share of instability or nuances in its first year as with any new platform, but since then it's been extremely dependable in any workload i could throw at it. very well worth it for me.
Been on intel since the 80s and switched to AMD back indec 2019 and besides a bad mobo right out of the store, my AMD system has been rock solid, not a single crash yet.
Thats awesome. I had a fx 6300 as my first pc build for a few years and honestly held up better than I expected. But with new games it would get really hot and stutter so I went up to a 3600x with no issues so far
I've been kicking around the idea of my next system being all AMD. This video has sold me on it. I have some time left on my current system, but I'm just now starting to think about building something new. I am still on a Z370 Corei5-9600k OC'd with an RTX2060 Super. Great honest video, thanks!
I was having boot problems with Ryzen, especially warm boot. Turned out to be my graphics card. It never happened with my previous motherboard, but after cleaning the PCIe contacts and making a point not to move the case it while the components are hot, it's been mostly solved. It still reboots once or twice before booting properly sometimes, but it's not a huge issue anymore.
I built a machine with a r7 2700x when they came out for my wife. I wanted to have an excuse to play with the platform. Now we have 4 out of our 5 LAN machines running Ryzen. R7 2700X, R7 3800X, R9 3950X, and R9 5950X. I LOVE them.
Was on an intel i7 4770k and upgraded to a ryzen 5900x, it's been amazing so far. No issues or random shutdowns for me. I will be switching back to intel or any other company that comes along and offers a better cpu at competitive prices though. AMD has definitely impressed me though.
@@drummerdude100 By "hot" do you mean runs within spec? If it runs out of spec then you should file for a replacement. If it runs in spec then it's not "hot", it's functioning as designed (i.e. within its thermal, power, and architectural limits.)
I went from 4770k to 5800X, however I have random power cuts at idle, otherwise I the chip is amazing. I just need to replace it for a more stable one at idle.
I wouldn't call myself an Intel fanboy, but I've only ever bought Intel since my family got a Packard Bell in 1993 with a 486. I've had an I7-8700k for the last few years, and to me it's the last Intel CPU they've made that I felt was worth buying. I recently "won" the Newegg shuffle and they graciously allowed me to buy a 3080 at a generous mark-up and they also threw in an X570 Aorus Master for a measly $350 as part of their forced bundle. I decided to use that as an opportunity to give AMD a try and my Ryzen 7 5800X will be here Tuesday. I'm looking forward to this new age.
Ha.. my first family system was also a Packard Bell 486 around the same time frame. Only 4MB of RAM.. NBA Live 95 needed 8.. :( needed to return the box and CD.
@@BobDevV I suppose, if you don't count the extra cores. I was coming from a 4690K, and the 8700K was 6C/12T, compared to the new at the time 8C/8T 9700K that I passed on out of principle when Intel skipped hyperthreading on the i7 line that generation. I've been underwhelmed by everything Intel's put out since, as have many others it would seem.
Same here, though it was the entire USB subsystem cutting out for a few seconds then coming back, been just resetting the USB drivers to make it go away, deffinitly needed to check for a Bios update to see if that's a more permanent fix!
I'm probably AMD's intended target customer, I don't mess with heavy overclocking or really exotic cooling solutions, preferring to stay on air whenever possible because I still don't trust that water cooling is reliable. I'm running a 5800X right now, with a Noctua NH-C14 cooler. I left settings basically stock, except for setting XMP and letting the CPU manage its own overclock. The best thing I can say about my rig is that I never have to think about it. It runs anything I can throw at it. The most annoying issue I've dealt with is the cooler. I was originally intending to run the Noctua NH-U14S, but the top of the heat pipes just barely touches the tempered glass panel of my case, which caused my motherboard to flex ever so slightly and weirdness to happen. Once I realized what was happening and swapped to a different cooler, I haven't had a single issue. I ran my old system into the ground. I had a 4 stick 32GB DDR3 kit installed and by the time I finally upgraded I was down to one usable memory slot. The system ran hot because it was an old FX-9590, which I bought not really understanding that an equivalent Intel rig at the same price point would have been a much superior machine. I was an early adopter of Ryzen, with the 1600, and compared to my old rig it was just amazingly fast. I had the normal early adopter issues, but the positives really outweighed the negatives for me. AMD really came a long way, and I don't think Dr. Su gets enough credit for the job she's done.
I brought first gen then r5 1600, and last year I upgraded it to r5 3600xt, on same system and b350 motherboard, that's was the real future proofing. Oh I also brought rx5600xt just before pandemic with 10% discount on msrp that's called timing.
I've been on my full AMD System (Ryzen 5 3600 + rx 5700 xt) since 5 months and i am impressed on how well it works, never got stability issues, works perfectly fine, it's fast, can run every game there is. I mean. Wow.
Had some of the same weird usb issues. Turned out it was an asus usb driver that was left in my os from an old asus intel motherboard, because I was too lazy to do a full windows reinstall when I switched to AMD
@@techtipsuk If you want performance - go amd, and stop using faulty PSU's. If you want to show off to old PCMR guys go intel, and change MB with every generation. For PSU's - never had any problem using BQ Dark Power P11 850W on 2 ryzen platforms (2700X and 5800X) with GTX 1080Ti and Radeon 6800 XT.
Funny how Intel, at least 10th gen, has become the budget option and AMD has become the premium while it was the complete opposite just under a year ago.
I took your advise a couple years back, and I'm so glad I did. Recently also upgraded from Ryzen 5 to Ryzen 9. I Use it extensively for Unreal Engine _Virtual Productions and Editing, and it just does not fail. I have pushed these chips to their capacity and they hold well. I did find that your higher RAM speeds made an immense difference in After Effects (3200) on the R5-2600x. I now have a 3600 RAM set installed on the R9-5900x and they just bolt the editing cache speeds and real-time-render performances. Even a small GTX runs great with the chip. I have not seen any system lag since. Let's see how this series holds up. Thanx for the show.
Wow, 2 minutes ago. I'm never this early. Hi Jay, hope everything is going hunky-dory in your world. Also, glad you made the decision in episode 11 of RTFM to just make videos on whatever the hell you want. The haters can eat my literal butt.
Have friend who went in on the first gen ryzen, upgraded and so on... am running a 5950X now and sure has not disappointed. AMD has their shit together, for now. Reviews will always be key for me when buying but yeah, I am not dismissing them out of hand.
I have actually been on AMD since the A series. After A I went to FX, and then straight to Zen+ because I had been considering going to Intel and wanted to see if Zen 1 would be any good. I regret nothing, currently riding out my Zen+ until AM5 drops 🙂 as far as issues, I used to BSOD early on, everything pointed to bad RAM but I never replaced any of the sticks and the issues just went away one day 🤣
I so much despise Intel that at one point I had a dual CPU Opteron gaming rig just to try and get some extra power 😂😂. Unfortunately back then software limitations didn't help.
A daughter who laughs at dad jokes is the best father's day gift ever...
Although, she said she didn't like his jokes... that last one definately had her cracking up...
Jay's daughter was in the video???
Pretty sure Jay paid her :)
@@joetuktyyuktuk8635 Quacking up
Absolutely!!
Ryzen 1000 series equals Zen 1, Ryzen 2000 series = Zen plus, Ryzen 3000 = Zen 2, Ryzen 5000 = Zen 3
4000 = Zen 2 oem exclusives
we could call 4000 Zen 2+
Their GPU model order is so fucking ass backwards
@@fghsgh Zen++?
@@boppernostopper8598 yeah I have no idea what their gpus are about. Like I remeber r9 and stuff. Then like Vega came out and like radeon 7. I dont understand any of it. To be fair I wasnt paying attention to any of their stuff ar the time. But 5000 series and 6000 series make sense. So they should just keep that up. Lol. I cant wait until they release another 9700 and 9800 pro. That will be a nostalgia trip for me.
See how old his daughter is just made me realize how long I have been watching this channel.
We old too now man 😞
Right lmao I remember when she was like 6
scary isn't it ?
God yes man i really feel old now..
@@BenEsherick she's a kid right >:( ?
The segment with his daughter is so heartwarming. I love this guy for who he is
it's kind of insane how AMD is fighting a war on 2 fronts (CPU + GPU), is destroying intel on the CPU front, and is competitive with nvidia on GPUs. It's truly impressive how Dr. Lisa Su turned this company around.
Only thing they're behind on is their dlss. Besides that it's neck and neck or winning.
@@bobhanson1037 and raytracing.. but its clear they can probably catch up every generation.
@@bobhanson1037 Clearly behind in GPU, back and forth in single threaded CPU, clearly ahead in multithreaded CPU, behind in mobile APU.
You don't have to misrepresent things to still be impressed by what they are doing.
@@itsPovich yeah im with jay there, i think the next round of cards is going to be NASTY. ryzen 5k is just silly good, and the 6000 gpus i think caught nvidia a little off guard, because the only thing they keep pushing on is the raytracing stuff. well, if you dont play anything that uses it, who cares? in those instances, it's literally a toss up. it's been a really long time since that was a thing!
@@bobhanson1037 they're indeed behind on upscaling, but remember that Fidelity FX will be on all cards (including Nvidia) PS5 and XBOX Series S/X as well, not just Nvidia RTX
So much more games will have it
And DLSS is a hell to implement (in Warzone your reticle even became misaligned with DLSS on)
So I think game studios will drop DLSS real soon and Fidelity FX will become much better really quickly because it's used by much more players
"They're quacks in the cement"
That was top tier, Jay.
His daughter finally quacked
well, he didn't say that he said "There are quacks in the pavement" also They're means they are not there are.
😁
@ik ur cool wow very cool🙄
That joke was 'fowl' 🤟🤣
I went from intel my whole life to a 3600x in the middle of last year, to a 5800x at the start of this year. I was incredibly surprised when i experienced zero weirdness throughout my entire time with the platform. Ryzen has run flawlessly for me for about a year now.
I'm in the same boat. It's running smooth for all of.my zen products. Solid AMD
Indeed, most of the bugs and glitches are gone around the 3000 series launch. I was an early adopter with the R5 1600 and there were definitely apps and games that had weird issues (I still remember having weird audio glitches in Battlefield 4 from overclocking the CPU), but honestly it wasn't as bad as I expected from a first gen product. A year of BIOS updates later it works flawlessly.
same here, always went for intel/nvidia for all my previous build, went full AMD with a 3600x+5700xt, flawless experience.
I just did a 5600X build, my first AMD machine since the Athlon XP Thunderbird in 2000.
For a background in my PC enthusiast hobby, I went from using the i7-3820 to a i7-6800K to a 2700x, and now a 5900x. I was extremely dumb with the Intel products then, probably, but switching to Ryzen I had less issues than with those intel CPUs. I probably should have stuck with the high end basic desktop intel CPUs instead of the lower end X series, but I, being dumb about it at the time thought "More cores=always better than lower cores!" which wasn't exactly true at the time of those CPUs.
Hey Jay, I've been building computers since the introduction of the IBM XT when components started becoming available, BUT, I just finished my very first AMD build (first build I ever attempted cable management on - what a difference in appearance)! Longtime Intel fanboy I built office machines, gamers, extreme over clockers without ever considering AMD (even though they froze much colder)! Then I watched as Intel lost their mojo and let my gamer age waiting for something to get excited about (I'd retired from OCing years ago), and then I started reading about something called Ryzen and figured it was time to update the gamer. Unfortunately, being of a technical background I couldn't just buy a cheap B550 and based my build on the ROG Crosshair viii, Ryzen 7 5800x (couldn't afford the 9 series), 32gb ram and 1TB Samsung 980 Pro NvME, couldn't upgrade my RTX2080 OC. So far, it's running like a dream in a V-71 with a AIO and a LOT of fans (thermals are very good). Not sure I'll ever go back to Intel- I'm 70 and don't think they can turn it around fast enough lol. AND - PROPS TO YOU! I've seen a few leaderboards since building this rig and have seen your name directly below Vince himself on several occasions - no small feat!
Thats awesome, it mustve be incredible to see the consumer computer grow up like that. i just built my first pc in 2019 and im 24. just barely begining my journey
@@dagothur2720 The changes you'll see will likely make those I saw pale in comparison - enjoy your journey
wow 70? right on!
Dude! This is almost exactly like my first amd build too, but I went with the dark hero motherboard!
@@simplybananas how’s the dark hero been? Considering getting it. Thanks (:
I've been on the 1950X since 2017 and I am definitely feeling the need to upgrade, still waiting for Zen 3 Threadripper or might just end up going for 5950X
Memory issues are still a problem with my board (Zenith Extreme), I have to run my memory at DDR4-2133, any higher and I get blue screens in Premiere.
Lately I have to use game mode (basically only using 8 of the 16 cores) otherwise random issues in Windows when opening apps where they take for ever, haven't tried a fresh Windows install yet.
Overall it's been good, and was a huge upgrade over my i7-950 lol, but yeah kind of over all the 1st gen issues.
God speed man
Great channel!!
I'd definitely look into a fresh install as well as looking deeper into timings/voltage for the memory. It should be able to run 2666.
Just buy new mobo
@@richard35791 I've got other boards, not worth swapping it at this point given I have laptops that can outperform the 1950X 😛 it's upgrade time
Ah! I'm still on an i7 960 and i'm definitely looking at the 5900x. About time i can game at higher than 30fps in gta5 x)
Me: IFIXIT?!?!? Wait... its chill
*no explosions*
I feel betrayed.
he cant scare the child
In Mr. Torgue voice: Needs more EXPLOSIONS!!!!
FIXITWITHIFIXIIIIIT!!!!11
Can't fix that with iFixit JUST KIDDING YES YOU CAN!!!!!
I remember seeing an iFixit ad on Facebook, and basically all of the thousands of reviews was just Jayz's fans quoting his ad. About two weeks later, the new ad started running. I think they appreciate the level of memery that he imparted on the brand.
The point of this video is that competition is very important in keeping you as a customer happy.
And that's why never let any company get away with any anti-competitive move, we don't want Inter bribing to happen again like in the Pentium era.
We need healthy competition.
Yes I am glad this is happening for nvidia the 3000 and 6000 series launch had the chance to become the next big thing if not for the shortage.
Also on gaming side after Sony humiliated both MS and Nintendo with the ps4 last gen. They're both coming back stronger than ever, so it's great they didn't just let Sony do what they want.
Competition breeds innovation and unlike intel, sony and Nvidia aren't just going to stand there watching
I have a 5800X that's randomly power cycling, it killed my HDD and lost power. AMD will RMA it but that will take time, trying to get my local PC store to reproduce it is also taking time because it happens less often with newer BIOSes and it's more frequent with certain hardware setups and I'm sure they weren't listening.
I'm not the only one with this issue but I know AMD will fix it and I should of unplugged my HDD while troubleshooting. Even still I'm proud to have a 5800X and a 6900XT because it feels good to support competition again. It's so exciting to watch the progress again, I haven't seen progress like this since the 90's.
@no Varian Wii u was such a flop, they had to scrap it after 5 years and bring the switch.
The switch is the same gen as ps5 and Series X, underpowered as it is. And yes the switch is a massive success and Nintendo is strong now
I love what AMD has done for the desktop, not just for their own product, but Intel has had to drop their prices too - they're starting to do the same to nvidia and hopefully they can really hit home with the next generation
tl;dw: "Early Zen was buggy, but it's better now."
yup
yup
yup
Sadly many of the first gen 370x boards are garbage and cost 400$ or more. Myself i have a gaming k5? fucking GARBAGE. busted voltages, awful ram support, buggy starts, broken dual bios. ectect. oh and the board itself has a ground somewhere so studio speakers make a screeching sound even through its "special audio lanes" in summery, Yup.
Agreed at the start of the Ryzen 1000 series it was a little bit messy. Especially memory support. But those systems with the latest bios versions run really well.
Most issues where resolved when Ryzen 2000 came out.
We need a playlist of all these “talking point” videos that are great to listen to even without watching. This stuff is my jam for transitioning to bed time
it's talking head lol
any video can be a talking head video to sleep to if you so desire, and the plus side is that you get to watch jayz/ltt/gn videos twice because you were sleeping the first time you watched/listened it lmao
@JayzTwoCents needs to do bedtime stories.. talking about your PC hardware
I told my wife to be quiet; I am listening to a sermon.
She believed me for a minute.
"How does Darth Vader take his toast?"
"No...."
Close. It's "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!"
Burnt to a crisp and raspy
@@RichardGrim On the highground
@@FinnLovesFP lmao that one got me
I just built my first computer, using a lot of this channels videos as guides for some of the subtle aspects of building, so thank you for that. It is an Ryzen 5 5600x gaming machine, and I had been Intel for many years. I love it, it works beautiful, and the customer service was phenomenal when I had an issue with the motherboard BIOS and the chip. Part of my choice.came from reviews about how AMD has really stepped up the quality, and I can attest to the performance. Its awesome. Thanks Jay.
I’m happy AMD has given Intel a bloody nose , it helps on forcing them to progress cause they have been kinda lacking last few years . I’m hoping they will come back swinging in the next year or so
I hope not, i hope AMD is given the same 10 years of leadership. And then see what is left of that arrogant bunch of croocks.
@Seer-of-things end Yep the difference in launch prices for the ryzen 3600 and 5600 was noticeably different and has probably given Intel a few sales back with their decently performing latest I5 which is priced a bit lower. Never thought I would see Intel as a value option.
@@jaysmudger problem for Intel is that’s the only good product of their most recent launch.
@@jaysmudger its all business. who ever is on top determines price. regardless of amd/intel.i thought this would happen when 2nd gen ryzen got released tht they would get more and more expensive.
When that happens get ready for the next ryzen 5 to cost £500
Switched last year to Ryzen 5 3600X after many years of i-Series CPUs. I have zero complaints, on the contrary. System is more stable and smooth than previous intel builds.
Same here
Yeah, my B450 and 3700x combo has been rock solid. Zero issues whatsoever.
@@eatsmemunch That depends entirely on which B450 board you have. Some of the lowest end ones are awful, while others are great and you could run a 16 core in them without issue.
I really like and appreciate this sort of commentary talking about what is going on and what good things to keep an eye on. Keep it up!
My chrome has randomly locked up my pc since i switched to ryzen anyone else?
Good summary and great video, thanks.
One point that's relevant for a significant percent of users is that AMD CPUs and GPUs have open source specification and thus open source drivers. Given the rise of gaming in Linux and the well established notoriety of poor proprietary Nvidia drivers, the open source / Linux gaming community will be first (if not already) that ditches Nvidia for AMD.
The real push is in professional markets, super computers, server farms, GPU compute where they prefer Linux generally, and may need open drivers for security or customization reasons. The Linux gamer market is almost non existent comparatively. And while general Gfx drivers from nvdia are trash on Linux, nVidia has CUDA which is a real contender for GPU compute, AMD is more Vulcan and openCL compliant but a lot of folks like the advantages of CUDA enough to justify the proprietary vendor lock-in issues.(And these are big-metal buyers so they do their research.)
I use all AMD on Linux but I don't deal with GPU compute.
I've run a 2600X for about 3 years now, it's running a lot and i've experienced 0 issues. I can't feel any stability difference over my previous intel build. I have 2 nephews and 1 of their friends running ryzen and they have all been equally stable. My work laptop is also ryzen based and i've not had a single issue yet, i primarily use sleep mode and hardly ever reboot it.
My 1600 was also stable...this was the most stable system I've ever owned....
Usually, with my workloads, I have to reinstall Win10 every 1 or 2 times a year...
This one?
It's the first one after I bought this system back at 2018
I'm considering giving this one to my daughter, and wanna build a newer one with 3000 or newer series...
Loving Ryzen so far
I've run a R5-2600 for almost a year (got it Christmas 2020) after upgrading from my laptop (Intel Core I5-8300H) and its been amazing, super reliable. The only issue I've ever had was annoying USB dropout issues but that was fixed after updating my BIOS.
Yea same here. Had the 2600x for over 2 years and even when i first got it, I didn't have any issues with usb or the memory
Last couple of years, I've only been building with AMD. I want Intel to come back strong, since competition is great for us end users.
yes if Intel just lets AMD run away with the lead they'll get too comfortable. Healthy competition breeds innovation, and AMD isn't a charity... it's a company
i want them to come back less scummy. maybe i'll consider buying their hardware then.
It's not just end users. Intel and AMD both need each other. They're the only two companies in the world who can manufacture X86 CPUs. If one of them stopped or went under (which was a very real possibility for AMD prior to Zen), the other would be hit by regulations because they'd have a monopoly on X86 CPUs. In other words, they're both better off with the other company being competitive.
Let Intel suffer for a few more years, so Amd can build up their financial reserves. Intel used very dirty practices to suppress Amd for about 2 decades, I remember motherboards manufactures were sanctioned when they manufactured Athlon mainboards. At the moment Intel has no answer, they will suffer a few more years, good..
@@rudypieplenbosch6752 and by suffering you mean making record profits and outselling amd in every market?
I don't think intel are suffering anywhere near as much as amd fans think. During their worst year to date, they made 13 times more money than amd.
I genuinely believe anyone who thinks intel is threatened by amd to be a complete twat.
Man seeing Jays daughter just realized I'm getting old like my dude it was 2014 just yesterday.
This is my relationship with 2003.
@@EarlHare 2018 was last year. 2016 was also last year. 2014 is two years ago. 2010 is five years ago. 2017 is yesterday, but 2015 is also yesterday.
I dont make the rules, thats how time works.
I myself have been on Ryzen for almost a year since I built my first Rig across 3 separate processors. Started my first rig with a 3600 I believe, worked beautifully and had 0 issues outside of some odd slow downs, that one ended up in my cousins rig and still works flawlessly. Mine is now a 3800x, absolutely flawless outside of some Ram XMP oddities and weirdness but that resolves itself when I swapped my MOBO, and I now have a second system running a 2600 (all Ryzen 7) for my girlfriend and again works flawlessly with 0 issues. I am all in for Ryzen and will likely continue to stay with that platform. Lisa Su has done a truly outstanding job turning AMD around and the company hit it out of the park repeatedly with Ryzen, and it only gets better as the platform gets more support from Motherboard manufacturers and other companies. #TeamRed
bliblablub fanboyism
I will continue to support Lisa Su’s AMD. As she made it possible for myself and millions on budgets to still get high end setups with better results than competition . In my opinion, that itself is enough to dethrone Intel.
Edit:
Didn’t realise this would get soo many likes. Thanks guys, Go AMD, you rock 👊
Agreed but I still like intel for some reason 😂
10 months of looking multiple times a day and I still can’t complete my PC. I’m selling it. Fuck this.
@@I_SuperHiro_I what are you missing?
@@thealien_ali3382 yea i like intel because it's not run by token asian lisa su.
@@Jacen436987 lol. Look at intel CEO.
I moved to AMD for the simple reason Intel at the time made you pay extra for just a few more PCIe lanes, on top the ridiculous price of the CPU. Fuck that, ended up just getting a Threadripper with 64 lanes instead of a silly 44 that costs 2x as much (once you bought that stupid module that unlocked them all).
Fuck RUclips and use AdBlock - I could not agree more !!!
I tell dad jokes. Sometimes he laughs.
Well played
@@LukasVokrinek you'd be amazed how many people don't get it.
ba da bing!
My 9 year old daughter do Dad jokes. I love them all.
This has to be one of the best dad jokes ever...
love the father daughter time on camera time. great way to have a family business
2 months late but im sure there are fktards out there calling this child exploit.
I've been running Ryzen since the first-gen. I understand what you mean by "weird issues" back when it was new. Honestly, working with that until the beginning of this year (where I upgraded to a 3950x, same motherboard and RAM), it became stable pretty fast and after a short while I forgot about the early "growing pains". Been really happy with the capabilities with the platform overall, as someone that both games and does content creation.
I've gone full AMD in 2019. Ryzen 5 3600x and RX5700XT. Been using them for games, music production, live instrument tracking, number crunching, data analysis, and recently generative adversarial networks, machine learning etc. I only have one single complaint. Took a couple firmware updates to stop ocassional issues with RAM and VRAM frequencies in both items. Other than that, flawless operation throughout. Happy enough and confident that I'm also buying a laptop with Ryzen 7 5800H.
Been on my first gen Ryzen 1700x with 370 chipset from 2017, initial problems with RAM ofcourse! But the build is quite stable now. By the way it running overclocked to 3750 GHZ stable. Basically because of bios updates. Even running a 5700XT graphics card. I do all my software work, compiling etc and my gaming on this machine. Migrating to a 5900X with 550 chipset now. Got some serious OS compiling workloads that will benefit. Gaming will benefit ofcourse but didnt upgrade for that..
Seeing Jay's daughter... and having literally seeing her grow up on this channel... just reminds me how old I'm getting.
Ain't that the truth.
@ik ur cool this gives me anxiety
How old did she get
I'm a year older than Jay lol.
Right! I literally remember his 10k subscribers video. And his days of his talking head videos whilst playing Battlefield 3 on his FX8350. We've been in it for the long haul.
Jay brought his daughter to the studio just to torture her with those jokes 😂
It's what good dads do. :XD
proper dad-ing
The torture wasn’t the jokes it was the being in the video
When I upgraded to an RTX 3090 in my gaming rig, I experienced the same sort of shutdowns Jay is describing. It turns out that there was a problem with the EVGA 750 GA Gold power supplies in that they had trouble dealing with the draw spikes that 3000 series cards demand. I switched to a Corsair RMX 1000 PSU and am now happily overclocking my EVGA FTW3 Ultra RTX 3090 past 2100mhz.
the 3090 is not a gaming gpu, so that's your first mistake. Im going to bet you also used the chained connectors off the psu instead of using 3 separate pcie to balance the wattage on each cable. My guess is you don't know what you're building and why you wanted to build it
@@wickedfuctup Nice try to troll me buddy. My computer is working just fine with the new PSU.
Huh, interesting, I have a different EVGA power supply in the 750 watt class and AMD a Saphire Nitro+ 5700xt that's had similar issues, deffinitly going to check out a Corsair power supply as part of my next couple upgrade parts.
Thanks!
@@wickedfuctup really cause I have a asus strix 3090 and is great at gaming so how can you not use it for gaming
@Stefan actually works great for gaming I have a asus strix 3090 and a game and video edit with it and it’s sick so I don’t know what your talking about
Me: **searches a picture of amd ryzen& ryzen threadripper**
Jayztwocents: i am 1024bit amd centuries ahead of you
@ik ur cool why sharing?
bruhhhh...wasn't jay's kid a toddler like yesterday?....holy shit im getting old asf
it is LOL
He has 2 daughters
@@kongoare o really
DW his toddler is getting old asf too :P
How do you know when a joke becomes a Dad Joke? When the punch line becomes apparent!!
My son hit me with that... I really didnt kno how to take it.. Was he talkin s**t or being funny??
@ik ur cool stop spamming..... im reporting all of your comments, so keep it up if you want your account flagged...
@@ghomerhust Already reported his account. He's not stopping, and this is not the first time I reported him. Religious people seem to think they can do just about anything without consequences.
@@redvapez6771
If you don't know, then it's time to share a brew with him and welcome him as a man.
You keep what you win.
What's the difference in a crow or a raven?
It's a matter of a pinion.
His daughter is so cute👍🏻 she came to her dad's place of work without kicking and screaming.. God bless you child.
Built my first pc this year went AMD and no regrets so far
I love mine as well
ive used both for many years (been building systems since the late 1990s) and im glad my rendering rig and gaming rig both run AMD chips. rock solid, cheaper, and faaaaaaast
Last year did the same and it's been an absolute breeze.
Been all-AMD since Phenom ii. No regrets. My finances have been very thankful.
I started on AMD with Bulldozer, and have raised my budget as AMD has raised their competitive level. Only thing I would recommend non-AMD hardware for is Nvidia GPUs for hardware accelerated encoding. Otherwise, the Intel systems I've built since just for the experience have been very meh.
"Jay watercools everything". He's running an air cooled PC.
All water cooled builds, rely on fans and air cooling the elements that contain the fluids, hence they are actually also air cooled. :)
@@thoso1973 air cools the liquid, not the components directly :)))
@@chonkusdonkus Components? Most water cooler builds I've seen, only use the fluids to cool the CPU directly. The heat inside the cabinet as well as GPU cooling is done with fans blowing the heat out of the cabinet. No water cooling on those components. To truly take advantage of all the pros of water cooling, most would need a custom setup with fluids cooling both the CPU, GPU and motherboard directly.
@@thoso1973 Not necessarily. If you use one of those 3x3 120mm stupid large coolers you can get away with passive cooling.
@@thoso1973 well duh, components that aren't watercooled aren't watercooled. That doesn't make watercooling aircooling.
I'm the "semi-professional IT guy" for a relative's design studio. Throughout the last two years, as some of their systems age and require upgrades, I've never bought a platform other than AMD (well, if you discount that time when I bought a raspberry pi as a network device). Ryzen 2000s, 3000s, and most recently one 5000s.
Their 3D rendering workstation for example, has a 16C32T 3950X, 64G Ram, a 2080 super, and 1T SSD + 4T HDD of storage. Built it in 2020 June. I spent less than 2.5K USD on parts, which was UNIMAGINABLE when Intel had the throne. With that machine, now they can render large 3D scenes by themselves instead of outsourcing.
In fact I built another system last week - it's a rack mounted 4U NAS with 12 drive bays. Now that might not sound impressive, but in my defence there's severe size and noise restrictions, so of course I custom built everything. And guess what, AMD comes to the rescue again. Unlike Intel, AMD at least had the decency to leave ECC enabled on their consumer CPUs, so that MBs CAN support it if they wish. So I grabbed an Asrock B550m Steel Legend (since it explicitly supports ECC), a R5 3600, and 2x Micron 16G@3200Mhz ECC UDIMMs for just about 400USD. It's an absolute steal considering similar server-grade HW would cost literally 3x as much. Also memtest86 reports ECC enabled without any configuration at all! I spent about 2 days setting up rhel8, zfs, samba, etc, and now all that's left to do is to wait for my 10GbE NIC to arrive in the mail, and it will be ready for production.
Overall I'm super happy with all the Ryzen products I've purchased/procured. As of Intel? Let's just say that the last Intel chip I purchased was the 7700K... I remember feeling ripped off even before I paid.
I went Ryzen with the 1800x, never looked back, and probably never will.
Went Ryzen with a 1500X, own a 3700X now. On the SAME MOBO. Try doing that with Intel and you'd get some fast-spinning fans and no post..
When you say 1800x there is different types (3, 5, 7, 9) so it's kinda vague unless it means something else that i dont understand.
@@duk8227 Ryzen 7 1800x. There is no other 1800x.
@@beetheimmortal oh rlly? Oh oke thx
That was made irrelevant by the Core i9-9900K.
Unforgivable Jay. You missed an opportunity to say "zat was zen. zis is now".
zey are in ze attic
Zat was zis. Now is zen.
Ha!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You should become king.
Just moved to Ryzen 9 after years of Intel. I love it. No weird issues. Only “complaint” is that overclocking and chip specification documentation is rare. But it really doesn’t need it as Jay says in the vid. Great video!
Well he did mention that those weird issues only existed when the CPUs first came out and weren't well supported by other companies.
AMD Reddit and overclock dot net forum have you covered. You'd be better off reading and learning, but if you ask questions, they'll likely get answered. Lots of info, screenshots and OC settings are shared. It's not Voodoo, there's plenty of AMD whisperers out that if you're looking to eek every last bit of performance. For stability, I recommend backing off a bit though. Just depends on what your use case and priorities are.
@@inkoalawetrust Nah, it's AMD themselves. Jay never mentions it but AMD makes microcode updates called AGESAs.. and then the motherboard companies take that AGESA, test and customize it for each board. Some boards are better than others (luck, skill or otherwise) but generally a lot of the problems are AGESA specific not motherboard maker specific. In truth, it's a combination of both but the problem is that getting a good vs bad board is luck of the draw.
Over time.. the AGESA versions improve everything, and all motherboard makers level out. It's really hard to recommend one over the other because it's a lottery. The best recommendation is to try and allow for 6 months after a CPU release to iron all of these things out. There might be board specific issues, but they are quite rare. It's usually AGESA related and it's random in terms of which board makers fix it earlier. Sometimes MSI might be faster, sometimes ASUS.. but there's no perfect option every time. It's random. Time and future AGESA versions average everything out over time.
I just use PBO works great have a decent performance increase in single and multicore
@@Jonw8222 I didn't know any of this so thank you for sharing ✌️
When talking market share, don’t forget that AMD components are in the newest Xbox and PS5. That’s a HUGE win for them!
They're also working with Samsung to whip Apple
@@loopy5893 nope, that’s because Samsung couldn’t even design a chip to take on Qualcomm let alone Apple.
They were in last gen consoles too
They always have had AMD hardware, get off the cool aid
@@42cuba AMD used the console business to stay afloat.
I've been running Ryzen since 1st gen (1700 OC'd to 4.0 for 3 years) and I ran into many of the same issues. That being said, the jump from 1st gen to 5000 series is remarkable. Side note on OC'n: there isn't much you can do on 5000 series, but you can still adjust the max OC offset in PBO to actually punch a bit over it's usual weight. Actually was able to get my 5600X boosting to 4850Mhz. All-core OC really hasn't been worth it since the Zen+ and never really was in comparison against Intel. Side-side note on OC: tuning memory subtimings yields better performance gains in general than CPU frequency.
Something about parents with their kids is damn cool and precious. Those jokes were funny as hell too! Thanks for the video Jay!
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Legends say that AMD is still fast to this day
Fast as f*CK booyyyy
TO THIS DAY!
@@AlexCreemers *fuck
Cringe...
Using amd for 5 years now - no weird issues so far :D
Ryzen 2600 here and had no problems. 3000mhz gskill ram here. 750 watt corsair gold power supply.
Running AMD for 20+ years - flight is normal. 😄😉
@@tech6294 had several problems with a 2600 go above 3000 with different RAM, but with the 3600 it got all worked out.
I had almost every issue he mentioned. Luckily I don't edit anything super high quality soooo i9 9900k for 300 bucks was perfect for me..
I love hearing you talk tech man, i honestly wish i could get a job building rigs, hearing tech pleases my ears in a way only gaming on the highest difficulty does
Dad jokes of the century!
60 yrs old and I still laughed.
Slide your cursor slowly over the timeline bar and check how the thumbnail is just Jayz hands going all over the place. lol
Looks a bit like the techno-dudes in a club, swirling their hands *g* lmao ^^
I was lucky to get my 5900x in December last year - no issues at all, pure performance.
Same, Got Ryzen 9 5900X and I'm very happy as a multitasker.
@@Ren_1106 Have Ryzen 9 3900X for year now- no problem at all.
Just made the arduous choice to switch to the 5950x from Intel. This video really makes me feel a lot better about it. Thank you for making it.
Why would that even be a hard choice?
@@Nick-tl7ts because Ive only ever used Intel.
how did it turn out?
@@Sirfrummel It's been amazing so far!
@@JustNice980 why u decided to chose AMD ?
I did two builds this year. My first ever build earlier this year was with a 5600x and the performance was pretty awesome. Just finished my second build with a 5900x and my god the performance is just fantastic! This generation of Ryzen CPU makes it easier to support AMD. Can't wait to see what they come up with the next gen CPU/GPUs.
If you don't mind me asking, what do you use the 2 systems for? Both for gaming?
@@blessedred I sold most the 5600x build to a family member. Decided to upgrade to a 5900x since I use my PC for heavy productivity.
@@Hartmen345 what are your pc specs if you dont have
I continue to use a R5 1600 on Crosshair 6. I cool it with 6 pipe air cooler. At 1st it was not that good on a CH6. BUT the current BIOS is happy with 3.9Ghz and 3200 speed RAM.
It also runs a R9 390X real well that way.
I also have a R7 3800X. But when running it with a what you can buy with $300 GPU? No real point, unless you want or need MOAR cores.
Now you can get new 2600s for $175. That and a good B550, oh yeah. With good tight timing 3200/3600 RAM? Good for any Nvidia that ends with 60 or a AMD 5600XT.
If you can find one for lees than a arm or leg. Fasser GPUs? Need the arm and leg.
The reason I bought a x570 was the I got one of those CH6 that is not compatible with 3000 series CPUs. Not all CH6s have the chip that causes that.
CH7s & CH8s are really good. But not all the features are really needed for most computing.
Now the Asrock x570 Steel Legend is waiting for a GPU. So it just sits.
I still have a GTX 690X. I have discovered over the years that OCing GPUs is not a good idea. Even if you water cool them.
The GTX 690 was one of those that OC was pretty much useless.
Same thing with the 390X. All the others are dead.
Yes the 6800XT or a 3080 is fine with a 5600X CPU. It has enough horsepower and speed to run it. The CPU will be waiting on it. Yes it will do fine with a 6800XT or a 3080Ti
Yep a $300 CPU (5600X)and a $1800 AMD 6800XT GPU? Or a 3080Ti for $3700? Not exactly what I would call a bargain at any price.
I've now had the pleasure of having 2 ryzen systems and all I can say is it goes about its business without a hassle. Playing games, hosting web based learning, etc. I could not be happier. The systems were a 2700x and now a 3700x.
I like how your daughter said she did not like your jokes, but she loved them for she was laughing at them. lol I can't wait for the next Video. Happy Father's Day Jay
You don't laugh at dad jokes because you liked them or even thought they were good, they're just that bad.
I had to laugh at my father's jokes. It wasn't out of fear of a punishment, but because he would take the silence as a cue to tell worse dad jokes. That man had a special power of always finishing a worse dad joke, so I had no choice but laugh. 🤣
I knew the Ryzen would be great, I bought mine day one and it's still running great. I'm glad a lot of people have them because we need competition and we need far less of Intel.
Early ryzen adopter here, i can say with confidence that the problems are now being solved within days of happening the support from the mobo vendors is crazy. No weird stuff happened to me for at least 2 years
Same thing here with my 1700x I am fairly happy I bought in in march of 2017... I think it will press on till march 2022 and I will get AM5.
I am fairly happy with value I got of this rig (and it will likely get moved to my parents home as my "weekend" PC.
It aged fairly well.
Those dad jokes f**king rock dude... It's not the explosions iFixit ads... but still definitely worthy of a watch through.
I've been using a Ryzen 5 3600 since the summer of 2019 and it's been absolutely amazing. That being said I've encountered some very annoying issues, such as a 2-week vacation away and my mobo not recognizing the CPU, booting issues that took me 3 days to fix, odd blue screen crashes, overclock instability, system hangs that wouldn't end, and 10-minute long bootup. These issues happen very rarely if not once, but when it does it made me really hate my pc and call it a bitch (not a nice thing to do). After I got these issues fixed tho it's been an absolute blast to use for editing, gaming, and even streaming along with the Radeon RX 5700 XT. The card gave me many issues with its drivers being finicky with certain games and god-awful cooling but have some serious performance to give if overclocked like mine. Hope this helps :D
Same here, had some weird CPU-wake issues where after putting the PC to sleep for so long, it won 't not wake up and show a display (display would flicker on but never show an image). My POST debug LEDs showed the system did respond, but almost got stuck in a restart loop when it could not wake up. For me I fixed it (it seems) by re-enabling hibernate from powershell, disabling fast-startup and disabling ErB in my UEFI IIRC. All of them caused CPU wake issues.
But yeah other then that it is working great!
I was also having very random shutdowns while gaming. A friend of mine was also having the issue. Using "sfc /scannow" on command prompt fixed the issue. Mine was with a 3700X. May not fix the issues for everyone but it worked for the 2 of us.
I use that plus DISM, and nothing fixed my 1700X problems. I even built a whole new computer around that chip, but in the end I had to replace it with a Ryzen 3600 and now the problem is solved. I'm blaming the 1700X for all my problems
I honestly thought I would never go to AMD. Now running a 3900x and I couldn't be happier. They have done an incredible job. I can multi task and play games at high end specs. Love it.
Yes freaking love my 3900x too its a beast
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior Depends what you are looking for in a PC. AMD use to be the better bang for the buck CPU but still most people bought INTEl. Yes AMD old CPU's was junk but still good enough. People are just going to buy what they want.
Hey so I got a question. I have a 3070 sitting here at home and I am actually building my first pc! So I do know a fair bit about pcs and specs and everything but I just want to find the best cpu for my 3070. So I am debating between a ryzen 7 5800x and a ryzen 9 3900x. I just want to know what the best cpu for the 3070 is and it's a little overwhelming for me since I have never actually built a pc before lmao. You got any suggestions?
@@resttrbtw782 That depends do you already have a motherboard? And what is your budget? Let's say you already have a motherboard and you have the 300 series for example a x370 board go with the 3900x. If money is not a obstacle for you then buy new 570x motherboard and 5800x cpu. I say this because 5800x cpu will not work with 300 series motherboard. That is the long answer to answer your question simply you can't go wrong with ether cpu. So buy which ever you want the 5800x will have some better performance but will be more expensive.
@@akmid60 Hey. Thanks for the answer. The only problem I am having is that I do not know what motherboard and cpu to really get. All I have is the gpu and since there were shortages, I kind of just had to buy it right away when I got the chance if you know what I mean. Also, I was wondering what you recommend specifically (motherboard and cpu) for a 3070. My budget is around 1700 more or less and can stretch it upwards a tiny bit but I don't want to go overkill as this is my first build. I still do want the performance and fidelity which I am sure I will get if I pick the right parts to go with my gpu. Thanks
Basically second and third generation Ryzen are some of the best products AMD's put into the CPU space since the original Athlon64x2 chips.
And it's about damn time!
still lovin my 5900x :)
my 3700x is speed i never thought i would get i love it
I went from an I7 4770K to a Ryzen 9 5900X. About the same performance difference as going from a Ford Pinto to a Porsche.
the Athlon II X4 wasn't very powerful, but it was cost-efficient.
@@Yadro767 i went from a i7 4770k to a 5700X and it was still a HUGE leap for relatvely modest cost
"It's extra performance for free... if you have the cooling, and the power, and the robustness."
- Jay
Yeah, except when you account for the power consumption that doubles for a 15% performance boost.
Come on...
I still run my Threadripper 1950x (1st Gen) and it runs smoothly, I haven't had any issues you described. I swapped from Intel and honestly... I just go where performance is, and for now it seems like AMD is there. Not to mention Power 4 Buck ratio is way better now.
I've been running a 3200g for just over a year and am really impressed with what it can do. Just like you said in the video, I only get instability when I turn on OC, otherwise, life without a graphics card is really pretty good*!
*not that I really have an option right now!
Jays dad jokes are a new type of pain i didn't know i could feel.
Oh, come on, that “quacks in the pavement,” joke was funny.
@@lightaces That's the "only" one that was funny.
It's so wholesome though..
@@PD4life I know, right?
Let's get to the brass tacks: How's your static problem at your home room?
Bringing your daughter on the show.. that's awesome man. What a great family!
It started with a 2600 and you said to me on Twitter to "prepare to be amazed" and now I sit here...with a Ryzen 9 5950X in my main rig not looking back at all. AMD is here and Dr.Lisa Su has steered the company back...they need to keep her direction, it's been great for AMD.
She has been monster stomping the competition.
Snap!
How the actual fuck did u get a 5950x
@@TechTalks685 local retailer up here in Western Canada had stock in stores about a month ago...I jumped and grabbed one at retail pricing. It's gloriously quick.
@@nbrowser lucky 😂
Ok this is the cutest add ever.
OMG, your daughter is SO much like my 15yr old, even the mannerisms. Happy Fathers Day to Jay and all the other dads out there!
I'm still running my 1800x with 32gb ram and a 1080ti. It was an absolute pain in the butt to overclock properly and to get the ram to simply run at guaranteed speeds... But, now that it's been setup for several years that machine is rock solid, never gets turned off. It was not easy and through my tinkering thought that it wouldn't be a platform I'd recommend to others. Glad to hear they've worked out a lot of the kinks over the years.
I gave up on my r7 1700... it’s on stock speeds and that flare x cl 14 I blew $360 at the time is running at 2400... being that I don’t game hardly ever it’s all good.
Just ordered 5950x and taichi razor... So I’m happily in the AMD camp despite the growing pains
@@07wrxtr1 I had to push my ram voltage up to like 1.44 before I could get both the ram and my CPU to successfully post (with CPU at 3.9ghz and ram at 3200)
I have random "i dont want to go to sleep and wake up immediately" instances with my i7 3770 since switching to win10.
I had that with my i5-4690k. It's gone now that I have a R5 5600x.
my computer always locked up after going to sleep after switching to 10. disabled that feature after one time where a hard restart from that caused my computer to forgot that i had any storage plugged in until i switched the SATA cables to different ports.
been running a ryzen 5 2600 for almost 4 years now with no issues even with an OC
Same. The 2600 had amazing overclock headrome, even with the stock cooler
2600x. Only issue I've had was the mb. Sent it in and no issues since.
Im having issues with ram because im using generic 2666 ram. Performance in games are fluctuating alot
r5 2600x me too 4 years no problem :) but still wanna 8cores :D so 5800x waiting for me :D
same here. 4 years on 4GHz OC on water and 3200 RAM with no issues at all. crosshair vi mobo . just recently reach cpu bottleneckes with a 2080ti at 60,fps in top tier games like metro exodus and cyberpunk.
i love my R5 1600af, i overclocked it to 4Ghz. its 4 years old but i have a lower mid tier build. gtx 1650, 16gb ram, and my R5. but i still play everything at 60-150 fps depending on the game. i highly recommend for mid tier builds
i have a 1600af and a gtx 1080 with 16gb ram i love it so much
yes sir i have r5 2600 with 16gb 3200mhz and rx 580 4gb very suitable to the games I played
Yep, have a 1600af, 16gb ram and gtx 1650 as well and I'm really happy about the build. I'm able to play a lot of games at nice fps, can edit and live stream well, and haven't had any issues. Might upgrade once GPUs come back in stock though, since the 1650 doesn't have fun with multiple monitors.
ive been running a 1950x threadripper since launch month, (had x99 for some years before that too), and its been one of the most stable platforms i've ever run. its had its share of instability or nuances in its first year as with any new platform, but since then it's been extremely dependable in any workload i could throw at it. very well worth it for me.
Been on intel since the 80s and switched to AMD back indec 2019 and besides a bad mobo right out of the store, my AMD system has been rock solid, not a single crash yet.
Was on a FX 8320 for years and switched to Ryzen 5 3600. Love it!
Still got my 8320 (oc'ed) running. Waiting for a new GPU at a reasonable price first to see what he can do before retiring him.
Thats awesome. I had a fx 6300 as my first pc build for a few years and honestly held up better than I expected. But with new games it would get really hot and stutter so I went up to a 3600x with no issues so far
Happy Father’s Day everyone - I know it’s early for some - in U.K. it’s 1am ! Have a great weekend all!
And here still in SA
I've been kicking around the idea of my next system being all AMD. This video has sold me on it. I have some time left on my current system, but I'm just now starting to think about building something new. I am still on a Z370 Corei5-9600k OC'd with an RTX2060 Super. Great honest video, thanks!
I'd tell you a RUSH joke but you'd need Moving Pictures!
I was going to tell a chemistry joke about Sodium, but Na.
Have you not seen the 2112ti?
Yeah those jokes are closer to the heart.
I was having boot problems with Ryzen, especially warm boot. Turned out to be my graphics card. It never happened with my previous motherboard, but after cleaning the PCIe contacts and making a point not to move the case it while the components are hot, it's been mostly solved.
It still reboots once or twice before booting properly sometimes, but it's not a huge issue anymore.
Likes just for the dad jokes. If I could give another, I still would. 😂
In Sweden, they are called Gothenburg jokes... dry jokes somehow associated with people from that city... :)
I built a machine with a r7 2700x when they came out for my wife. I wanted to have an excuse to play with the platform. Now we have 4 out of our 5 LAN machines running Ryzen. R7 2700X, R7 3800X, R9 3950X, and R9 5950X. I LOVE them.
Jay’s dad jokes and “24, you know what’s funnier? 25-“ have the same energy
Was on an intel i7 4770k and upgraded to a ryzen 5900x, it's been amazing so far. No issues or random shutdowns for me.
I will be switching back to intel or any other company that comes along and offers a better cpu at competitive prices though. AMD has definitely impressed me though.
Also recently got a 5900x. Absolutely brilliant cpu and no issues at all. Runs hot though!
@@drummerdude100 By "hot" do you mean runs within spec? If it runs out of spec then you should file for a replacement.
If it runs in spec then it's not "hot", it's functioning as designed (i.e. within its thermal, power, and architectural limits.)
I went from 4770k to 5800X, however I have random power cuts at idle, otherwise I the chip is amazing. I just need to replace it for a more stable one at idle.
@@tim3172 I meant it runs hot compared to the last gen.
@@Commander_ZiN that doesn’t sound right
I wouldn't call myself an Intel fanboy, but I've only ever bought Intel since my family got a Packard Bell in 1993 with a 486. I've had an I7-8700k for the last few years, and to me it's the last Intel CPU they've made that I felt was worth buying. I recently "won" the Newegg shuffle and they graciously allowed me to buy a 3080 at a generous mark-up and they also threw in an X570 Aorus Master for a measly $350 as part of their forced bundle. I decided to use that as an opportunity to give AMD a try and my Ryzen 7 5800X will be here Tuesday. I'm looking forward to this new age.
Ha.. my first family system was also a Packard Bell 486 around the same time frame. Only 4MB of RAM.. NBA Live 95 needed 8.. :( needed to return the box and CD.
@@BobDevV I suppose, if you don't count the extra cores. I was coming from a 4690K, and the 8700K was 6C/12T, compared to the new at the time 8C/8T 9700K that I passed on out of principle when Intel skipped hyperthreading on the i7 line that generation. I've been underwhelmed by everything Intel's put out since, as have many others it would seem.
I have been suffering from the keyboard cutting out unexpectedly. Thank you for the insight.
Same here, though it was the entire USB subsystem cutting out for a few seconds then coming back, been just resetting the USB drivers to make it go away, deffinitly needed to check for a Bios update to see if that's a more permanent fix!
I'm probably AMD's intended target customer, I don't mess with heavy overclocking or really exotic cooling solutions, preferring to stay on air whenever possible because I still don't trust that water cooling is reliable. I'm running a 5800X right now, with a Noctua NH-C14 cooler. I left settings basically stock, except for setting XMP and letting the CPU manage its own overclock. The best thing I can say about my rig is that I never have to think about it. It runs anything I can throw at it. The most annoying issue I've dealt with is the cooler. I was originally intending to run the Noctua NH-U14S, but the top of the heat pipes just barely touches the tempered glass panel of my case, which caused my motherboard to flex ever so slightly and weirdness to happen. Once I realized what was happening and swapped to a different cooler, I haven't had a single issue.
I ran my old system into the ground. I had a 4 stick 32GB DDR3 kit installed and by the time I finally upgraded I was down to one usable memory slot. The system ran hot because it was an old FX-9590, which I bought not really understanding that an equivalent Intel rig at the same price point would have been a much superior machine. I was an early adopter of Ryzen, with the 1600, and compared to my old rig it was just amazingly fast. I had the normal early adopter issues, but the positives really outweighed the negatives for me. AMD really came a long way, and I don't think Dr. Su gets enough credit for the job she's done.
I've been on a 3900x for almost 2 year's and couldn't be more happier. It's been the best system yet. 👍
I brought first gen then r5 1600, and last year I upgraded it to r5 3600xt, on same system and b350 motherboard, that's was the real future proofing. Oh I also brought rx5600xt just before pandemic with 10% discount on msrp that's called timing.
I've been on my full AMD System (Ryzen 5 3600 + rx 5700 xt) since 5 months and i am impressed on how well it works, never got stability issues, works perfectly fine, it's fast, can run every game there is. I mean. Wow.
Had some of the same weird usb issues. Turned out it was an asus usb driver that was left in my os from an old asus intel motherboard, because I was too lazy to do a full windows reinstall when I switched to AMD
Moral as the story, stop using overpriced ASUS psu's.
coz everquest sucks
Or not use AMD
@@techtipsuk If you want performance - go amd, and stop using faulty PSU's. If you want to show off to old PCMR guys go intel, and change MB with every generation.
For PSU's - never had any problem using BQ Dark Power P11 850W on 2 ryzen platforms (2700X and 5800X) with GTX 1080Ti and Radeon 6800 XT.
Funny how Intel, at least 10th gen, has become the budget option and AMD has become the premium while it was the complete opposite just under a year ago.
I took your advise a couple years back, and I'm so glad I did. Recently also upgraded from Ryzen 5 to Ryzen 9. I Use it extensively for Unreal Engine _Virtual Productions and Editing, and it just does not fail. I have pushed these chips to their capacity and they hold well. I did find that your higher RAM speeds made an immense difference in After Effects (3200) on the R5-2600x. I now have a 3600 RAM set installed on the R9-5900x and they just bolt the editing cache speeds and real-time-render performances. Even a small GTX runs great with the chip. I have not seen any system lag since. Let's see how this series holds up. Thanx for the show.
Wow, 2 minutes ago. I'm never this early. Hi Jay, hope everything is going hunky-dory in your world. Also, glad you made the decision in episode 11 of RTFM to just make videos on whatever the hell you want. The haters can eat my literal butt.
Damn, the literal butt.
Have friend who went in on the first gen ryzen, upgraded and so on... am running a 5950X now and sure has not disappointed. AMD has their shit together, for now. Reviews will always be key for me when buying but yeah, I am not dismissing them out of hand.
I have actually been on AMD since the A series. After A I went to FX, and then straight to Zen+ because I had been considering going to Intel and wanted to see if Zen 1 would be any good. I regret nothing, currently riding out my Zen+ until AM5 drops 🙂 as far as issues, I used to BSOD early on, everything pointed to bad RAM but I never replaced any of the sticks and the issues just went away one day 🤣
I so much despise Intel that at one point I had a dual CPU Opteron gaming rig just to try and get some extra power 😂😂. Unfortunately back then software limitations didn't help.
I love how it turned out that all the issues we had with AMD ended up being ASUS and Gigabyte's fault