This is a comparison of the main differences between the CASIO fx-CG50 and the TI-84 Plus CE. TI-nspire CX II CAS vs HP Prime: • HP Prime vs TI-nspire ...
@@WCephei77HD Essentially, making the CPU much faster than originally designed. For this model, the program Ptune3 is the one I use for overclocking. Mine has been working fine overclocked, but make sure not to do it too high or else calculator may become unusable.
I feel like any calculator that isn't a TI is judged more harshly for some reason. For instance, you claimed the Casio was "quite a bit faster," and at the end you said it's "just as capable as" the TI. But those are both enormous understatements. Depending on what you're doing, the Casio is like 2-10x faster than the TI for half the price. It should really be a no-brainer what calculator to get. Protip: if you're the kind of person that's checking out youtube vids to compare graphing calculators, I 110% guarantee you're gonna be fine figuring out Casio's menus lol.
Yep! Having used a TI-84 Plus and the *brand new* Ti-Nspire CX in high school, Casio's menu is quite easy to figure out. Didn't read any manuals at all on the calculator and have not run into any issues yet.
Very nice comparison! I know there were a lot of people wanting a comparison of the CE and the CG 50. I don't have a CG 50 so I'm glad you were able to make this happen!
The Casio CG50 on-screen menu structure is super easy to use once you become familiar with it; but for those who can't be bothered to make that investment, Casio provides a powerful alternative, its inbuilt Catalog (Shift-4), which functions rather like the TI approach. The TI84 is better in certain respects (e.g. it packs far more data in the screen for lists and spreadsheet data) but one would really have to compare the Casio CG50 with the TI-Nspire CX II (non-CAS version) to achieve a fairer fight.
And what s your opinion about those, because I have seen Prime versus Nspire (winner: Prime); ti 84 versus Nspire (winner Nspire); this video (in my opinion winner is Casio). But what about Cg 50 versus Prime ( a part from CAS)? Have they all Probability, Stat and Finance stuff?
Seriously. It only gives you valid selections at any given point, and if you actually know what function you want, you should recognize it instantly. If you need an Enigma Machine to decipher the abbreviations, you probably shouldn't be using a calculator this advanced to begin with.
Wow, I'm surprised that a Texas Instruments device is so much slower than a Casio device. Man - too many pros & cons for both; but I think the Casio takes the cake.
The CG50 does have a catalogue option that is called by pressing shift then 4. This brings up all the functions that can be called. I find the CG50 contextual options are more like common functions.
I have been using the TI-84 for the past year, I really like it how ever I have upgraded to the Casio as it you can enter complex numbers and polar number in the matrice for solving linear equations. TI-84 doesnt allow this in matrices, which is required for my electrical classes. The Casio will also both polar and complex numbers to be used in the same matrix, which is great. Both calculators are good units, I agree with you the TI-84's menu layout better than the casio.
Is there an option to convert the result to engineering notation (ie. 1000 ->1*10^3) fast the same as the casio fx-991es classwiz' ENG button does on the fx cg50. Thanks for the answer.
Thank you for your review, Math Class Calculator! This played an integral role (pun intended ;)) in helping me differentiate (pun NOT intended) the Casio fx-CG50 from the Texas Instruments TI-84.
I tried the sum function on a TI-nspire CX II-T and an HP Prime G2. The TI takes about 3.5 seconds, while the HP is so fast that you can't measure it. The result is displayed almost immediately after pressing the Enter key. It's enormous how different the speed of calculators in a similar price range is. Because the Casio and the TI-84 Plus are not that much cheaper, at least here in Germany. The HP, as well as the TI nspire can both do Python, as well as CAS. The HP can also do UPN. And both have an examination mode where the teacher can then lock the programmability, CAS and much more (is constantly signalled by LEDs that are clearly visible). At least here in Germany, they are approved for exams. Casio FX-CG50 -- €106.57 TI-84 Plus CE -- 119,95 € HP Prime G2 -- 115,95 € TI-Nspire CX II-T CAS -- 139.95 € Personally, I prefer the HP, which in my opinion simply has the better operating concept (including a touchscreen), similar to the Casio. But that is of course a matter of taste.
You can simplify fractions on the TI. Just enter it as a fraction instead of division. Press alpha and y= to enter the f1 menu. In that same menu option 4 is to convert fraction to decimal.
Yeah, but no simplification of radicals. Stop saying that Texas Instruments is better than Casio, Casio fx-CG50 is 80 euros cheaper than TI-84 Plus CE in my country and performs much better + it has a much cleaner and more intuitive UI.
Also, in my country, everyone uses the Casio calculators, I've literally never seen a student/teacher using a Texas Instrument calculator in my entire life.
@@MiScusi69only in Canada, we use a lots of Texas for graphing, even students and teachsers, and Casio classwiz fx-891E for calculating. Ngl, the TI-84 is suck af. I only used it to pass caculus 2 and never use it again. Worst experiment
The number of lines on the Casio are too few compared with the TI, but the functionalities are impressive. I wish you'd compare the solver functions on each.
@@stefos6431from what I heard the newest 84s are about twice as fast than the older 84 CEs. That would still put it at roughly half as fast as the CG50😂 for roughly 1.5x the price
I prefer the Casio one. Use both but got used to casio in high school and been using since 2015. However nowadays I prefer to use a cientific calc because in college they won’t let me use graph calc as often
What do you think about Cg 50 versus HP Prime? And Ti84 is above or under the Nspire? I have seen comparisons between Prime and nspire , 84 and Nspire. But nothing about Cg50 (or 84, they are similar as you said) and Prime. Are they lower range? (A part from CAS)
Thank you for your information! But I have a question, at 1:17 you said you can use rechargeable AAA batteries on CG50 and charge by USB port without taking out them and is it true? I searched internet but everyone said there is no charging option for CG50. I already ordered one but I want the correct answer ASAP. Your review quality is high enough but I concern that wrong information may contained in this video. Thanks for reading!
Hay I want to ask you form your own opinion?? What is the best Fx-9860GIII or Fx-9860GII or fx 9750GIII or fx 9750GII and why ?? thanks for your help 😍
You said you can put rechargeable batteries in cg50. and charge it via cable. Are you sure it will charge the batteries? I thought that cable and jack is only for data copy
My only question is about it's porting and programming abilities and the community. I've seen the ti in action and I know that if I'm stuck on sm theres a whole community of people which have answers but I haven't researched casio yet
I have a $20 Casio fx-991EX and I prefer it to my TI-84 quite a bit. The engineering button is handy, putting the answer in exact terms instead of approximations is critical in Calc, and it's just faster to use because the TI has everything in menus. I can do a definite integral right from a button on the Casio, but I have to go to a menu in the TI and then I have to put the formula in parenthesis with the variable and the limits separated by commas. I need SIMULT2, or I'd definitely use the cheap Casio all the time. If only it supported complex numbers in matrix operations, it would be perfect. Though, having more lines of previous computations would be nice, too.
I've definitely felt the same thing about the TIs just not being as oriented toward easily getting to common functions or displaying them in a human friendly way.
@@williamweatherall8333 I got the HP Prime and it's been a game changer. I tried RPN and now I'm hooked. It supports complex numbers in matrix operations and the CAS function is handy. I just used the Laplace transform on my Diff Eq final. I probably still got a D, but the calculator is nice.
TI made a new hardware upgrade on the TI-84 Plus CE line. To check if you have the newest hardware, check the manufacturing date, and if it ends with an M then it is the newer hardware. The newer ones are over 2x as fast.
I noticed that the ti 84 ce was a more expensive so i just bought the casio fx cg 50 and its great! I've seen most people do so much on a ti 84 for just simple calculations and its def easier on the casio.
Tbh it doesnt really matter, for college almost any calculator will work, a old ti 83 would be more than enough. The problem is if you are majoring in lets say engineering then the engineering tests wont let you have a graphing calculator period. If you really want a newer one tho, id go with the casio cuz its way cheaper and does the exact same thing.
Just returned my Ti-84 Plus CE after finding out that the ASM program door was permanently removed from its operating system. Exchanged it for the Casio FX-CG50, and with exception of the batteries, it is a laughingly superior graphing calculator at nearly $70 cheaper.
FX-CG50 - much faster - larger screen - more functional - python - replaceable batteries - much cheaper TI-84 Plus CE - better menus (I disagree) - thinner and lighter
I have the Casio FX CG50, Ti 84 Plus CE Python, Ti 84 Plus, TI Nspire, and HP Prime and out of all of those I use the CG50 the least. I don't think the menus are bad but sometimes they aren't intuitive and I do not like the RUN-MATRIX app at all compared to any of the other brands. The inability to edit and bring down previous problems quickly and efficiently is very annoying. That being said there are a lot of good things about the CG50 such as price, performance, and lots of apps and functions. I enjoy using TIs the most with the HP Prime close behind but I've never really liked the Casio too much.
The Ti-Nspire CX is allowed on standardized tests and will solve equations with nsolve. However, the TI-nspire CAS is not allowed on standardized tests.
I have a CG50 and there is one problem. You can accidentally erase the built in features when you are erasing equations, variables etc. I lost both the 3D functionality and the built in picture graphing. Unless you have a computer with a built in USB port, you are out of luck.
The TI-84 can give exact answers as well. Just press the fraction to decimal button to toggle between fraction and decimal. Even my mid range TI-30XS scientific calculator can do this. The TI-84 is still going to be the more capable calculator mainly because teachers and instructors will know their way around the TI-84 more so than the Casio across North America. So if you need help, your instructors are more likely to know exactly what you need to press to input your mathematical calculations. TI also just generally has more support in North America as well. Both are great calculators. But the TI will be the better solution if your going to university more often than not. Especially if the lesson plans are molded around the TI.
I got a casio fx cg50 in 8th grade. Go on ahead and get one (I recommend casio over ti but it is your choice) if you plan on going to college, but if not and you just plan on going through high school, rely on the calculator provided by your school
I got both, but there is a newer version and of the TI-84 the is slightly faster but still it is no match to the CG-50. Edit: To be honest the tiny boxes at the bottoms of the screen are really useful.
@@nicolastorres9993 hp prime is a million times better to graph. It is fast responsive and so on. But there some minor inconveniences that you have to deal with on a daily basis. Like putting multiplication signs between parenthesis. Very vague error codes or error codes that don’t tell you what is wrong. Then you have to deal with that there are almost no complete tutorials for it and it is not very similar to how the TI is used. I’ve had to look up how to graph when I first bought it lol.
It took about 40secs on the similar B&W Casio fix-9750GIII, not too bad. I ran it on the HP Prime and got the result back instantly. The HP Prime is always very fast. As you point out, it runs *much* slower on Casio’s lower-cost calculators; I tried it on the fx-115es plus 2nd edition (similar, I believe to the fx-991ES)… it was so slow that I rewrote it to only do 1000 summations rather than 10,000… it took 4 minutes to perform 1/10th of the summations.
I have used a decade old fx9750gii for almost all of my calculations, then one of my professors made be get a ti84. I almost vomited after seeing how long it takes the ti84 to graph a simple line. Then scrolling? dear lord, it was painfully. I put the ti84 away after that course and never picked it up again. Maybe there is some magic to it, but I just don't see it lol.
In Europe TI is not widely used it’s the total opposite than the US, tho the HP Prime is far superior makes them both look like kids calculators just a shame HP wasn’t adopted and since HP has dropped out of the calculator market they is very little support for software development for HP unlike CASIO it’s fully support it tho TI has lately dropped support so just CASIO left.
Texas Instruments was very smart when graphing calculators started being introduced in the late 1980s. While TI was late to the party (Casio and Hewlett Packard introduced their graphing models way earlier) , TI worked very closely with US textbook publishers, with textbook exercises based on TI keystrokes and format. Further, TI has a lot of outreach with science and math teachers in the US. Coming up on 35 years, the TI-83 and TI-84 calculator families are what most teachers recommend that students get.
@@MikeB3542 that’s in the US, in Europe CASIO #1 everything is geared around CASIO were Ti what’s that it’s practically unheard of by kids. Even in the 80s all CASIO. Tho I don’t know what the Ti screen is like but fxCG50 dreadful washed out looking colors way off like Red looks pink, Green looks lime green just terrible The HP Prime despite it’s angle and being used upside down is TrueColor RGB888 it looks quite decent The CASIO is RGB565 And can’t understand Algebra the implied •, Try typing in something like 3/3(3) it says oh you mean 3/(3(3)) when it’s 3/3•3 on Ti and HP
i even have the updated python version of the ti which is much faster and it still loses the race to casio update: summation is about 46 seconds, and graphin WITH ASYMPTOES OFF can make tifinish faster, however this does screw up tangent
ti-84 is also fast, but only for people, who can read operating manual, my ti-84 needs les than 3 sec. to draw this. the way of shortcuts on texas is very smart.
Wolfram Alpha should be included in the mix. It can be added to any smartphone. It is a subset of Mathematica and Wolfram's excellent database. There is virtually no math problem that Alpha can't handle. It does symbolic algebra and calculus without a pause. In fact, it will give you the necessary steps it used to get the answer. Best of all, it's free.
@@user-cr6qv1bn2u thing is, I was right. TI DID in fact lobby to push their calculator programs across as many US schools as possible, putting their calcs into the teacher's hands have made them the default choice for students. They basically manufactured their monopoly in the US. Your dismissal only supports such power of corporations over people.
Yes… I think schools (and their students) and the associated standardized testing govern the modern calculator market. TI does not market to individual students (or engineers) any more; it markets to larger entities… school districts, etc. Once districts or states have picked a preferred calculator, teachers and students naturally follow. In the U.S. this almost always means TI. All this also results in the stagnation of much further calculator development. Our ‘devices’ and their software have largely supplanted calculators outside of the schools. It’s a bit of a shame, because dedicated devices like calculators *can* be nicer to work with than purely software-based platforms (e.g. smartphones).
The calculator companies have a monopoly on the market because of contracts with schools and test companies. They can release these weak calculators with extremely low specs because people will still buy them. You can buy a 7 year old phone for the same price as a ti-84 and it will be 100x faster.
I am a working adult. This means I can use either a phone or a calculator. Still, I prefer calculator for direct key access and always ready mode. On a phone, you have to unlock and then navigate to the calculator app. Having to do this every time you need to do some calculations is taxing. Which, for me, can be 10-20 times in an hour. Plus, I can be a bit more rough with a calculator than with a phone.
I do not like the idea of a built in rechargeable battery on a calculator. It puts a time limit for the device. I still have a graphing calculator I bought over 25 years ago.
I really wish Casio shoved a low end mediatek smartphone in it, it would of given this calculator one HELL of a performance boost. That is what treyarch zombie players would call "pack a punched".
@@ks2091 Even in A-level or degree, graphing calc is not needed. You do all the equations and formulas on a scientific calc. When you do need to create charts or graphs you use Excel or some maths software like Matlab, Derive, etc.
@@jaronhunt8229 If you have ever sat a maths exam you would have known that NO exam asks anyone to waste their precious time drawing graphs! Mostly they ask for figures and equations. In the rare events they do want drawing, they simply ask for apprx drawing or partial graphs. They do not expect students to walk with expensive graphing calcs. The most useful thing that has come out of the calculator business in the last 20 years is the ability to input formulae as we write on our notes. If graphing calcs are so important, how do you think people in the '50s, '60s, and '70s solved complex problems of fighter jets, submarines, satellites, space telescopes, space shuttles, missiles, sky-scrapers, suspension bridges, molecular biology, quantum physics, etc., when there was no graphing calculators? Indeed, how do you think calculus itself was developed back when they didn't even have a mechanical calculator at that time? 😃 You do not need a graphing calc, ever! It might be cool and it might show you a few fancy graphs, but it's NOT essential to even do your Ph.D! :-)
Nice comparison but does it matter? When I was in college I tried going with other calculators that were better than what TI had to offer (HP and Casio). But soon it got to be too annoying using something other than what the professors were using and familiar with. TI is overpriced and underpowered, but in the classroom they are the ones to have. And if you're not in a classroom, there's no need for these.
That’s such a good point.. I’m looking to upgrade from my ti-84 bc I lost the case and the screen is messed up. I’ll be a junior majoring in engineering so of course I’m looking at all the reviews.. I think my best bet is to buy a used ti or just keep the old one for class and I’m considering the HP prime as my upgrade.
That's not true about charging rechargable batteries through the mini USB port. The USB port is to transfer data. It does not charge the batteries. I have rechargeable batteries and they don't work.
The situation is more of like Android and iPhone wars, where Android is the fx-CG50, and the iPhone is the TI-84 Plus CE, since the public prefers the TI-84 Plus CE more, other buyers will go for it without hesitating.
I sincerely don't get why Texas still includes that ridiculous hardware into their products. I don't think the Casio can be considered as a powerful or fast piece of hardware, but yet that Ti-84 accomplishes to pale if compared to that. That's just bullshit, exactly as the Ti-Nspire I bought a couple of days ago. Initially I thought it was a deal, but I realized how it's probably worth less than the 20 dollars I paid it.
@@Amer76R I get it but they're offering incredibly poor hardware for a considerably higher price. I would be quite ok to have a only slightly superior or at least comparable product while paying more for their brand, but Casio is making 50 dollars calculator faster than any of theirs at this point. That's unacceptable dude. And i can't get why they keep doing this. We're not talking about a market where research or particular development has to be done. Any Cortex chip would perform infinitely better than any calculator from both Texas and Casio while probably consuming less and costing nothing. And i don't want my calculator to be able to run COD Mobile, even moving a slightly complex graph in a seemingly fluid way would be enough. Something you obviously don't get even on their 150 dollars top tier model nowadays, and that you can do with a free app on any phone. That's simply ridicolous.
I get it, but for 100$ you can even get a tablet that can do way much. Its the people if they pump the price and people keep buying they will do it again, bcs. Why not?
@@Amer76R I guess people keep buying those because they have to, they're necessary and even requested by schools in several places globally. The problem is that in the US Texas products are the only ones teacher know how to use and will request for their classes, the only ones school books include exercises for and the only ones everyone has used in the past 30 years, so they can pretty much do whatever they want with prices without worrying about market share or competitors. People will just buy their product. And while that's surely not good i could stay with it, until they actually put some effort and at least make their shitty calculators usable. As I said I bought a Ti-Nspire touchpad some time ago and I've been incredibly disappointed with its performances. All it takes to make it lag is a long text or a function more complex than a linear one. And with Casios doing a lot more and better with LOWER prices everything becomes even more ridiculous.
My TI-81 (2MHz Z80 from 1990) finished those graphs 5 seconds faster than your TI-84 (48MHz eZ80 from 2015) . There must be something off with your settings.
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And if the CG50 isn’t fast enough for you, you can overclock it. Yes, you read that right, you can overclock a calculator!
What does that mean?
@@WCephei77HD Essentially, making the CPU much faster than originally designed. For this model, the program Ptune3 is the one I use for overclocking. Mine has been working fine overclocked, but make sure not to do it too high or else calculator may become unusable.
@@stacia6678 does this calculator have the Invader game?
@@stacia6678 apparently casio fx 9750 is the best one for programming, do you think that's true?
@@stacia6678 wait... can I just run a normal nes emulator on the calculator? Because I can't find a calculator nes emulator. If you can, plz link
I feel like any calculator that isn't a TI is judged more harshly for some reason. For instance, you claimed the Casio was "quite a bit faster," and at the end you said it's "just as capable as" the TI. But those are both enormous understatements. Depending on what you're doing, the Casio is like 2-10x faster than the TI for half the price. It should really be a no-brainer what calculator to get.
Protip: if you're the kind of person that's checking out youtube vids to compare graphing calculators, I 110% guarantee you're gonna be fine figuring out Casio's menus lol.
Yep! Having used a TI-84 Plus and the *brand new* Ti-Nspire CX in high school, Casio's menu is quite easy to figure out. Didn't read any manuals at all on the calculator and have not run into any issues yet.
But can it run doom?
@@keeveekoomoo2083 yep
Thats true, its just that of its not a ti some teachers wont let you use it on their exams
@@malcolmjelani3588 wrong as long aa it's not cas it doesn't matter Brand is irrelevant
Never thought that I would be very fascinated about calculators
Now I know why people said us, engineering students are weird XD
as a math major, u would not believe how far my obsession goes
@@erica8465 Elaborate
I'm terrible in math but fascinating with calculators because they help me through math.
Very nice comparison! I know there were a lot of people wanting a comparison of the CE and the CG 50. I don't have a CG 50 so I'm glad you were able to make this happen!
The Casio CG50 on-screen menu structure is super easy to use once you become familiar with it; but for those who can't be bothered to make that investment, Casio provides a powerful alternative, its inbuilt Catalog (Shift-4), which functions rather like the TI approach.
The TI84 is better in certain respects (e.g. it packs far more data in the screen for lists and spreadsheet data) but one would really have to compare the Casio CG50 with the TI-Nspire CX II (non-CAS version) to achieve a fairer fight.
And what s your opinion about those, because I have seen Prime versus Nspire (winner: Prime); ti 84 versus Nspire (winner Nspire); this video (in my opinion winner is Casio). But what about Cg 50 versus Prime ( a part from CAS)?
Have they all Probability, Stat and Finance stuff?
@@MrMarcec85 Yep. Probability is a quick download from Casio website, it’s not installed originally.
Seriously. It only gives you valid selections at any given point, and if you actually know what function you want, you should recognize it instantly. If you need an Enigma Machine to decipher the abbreviations, you probably shouldn't be using a calculator this advanced to begin with.
Whats the strongest TI calculator
@@pepsiman4418 The strongest TI calculator currently is the TI-Nspire CX II graphing calculator. It comes in two flavours: CAS and non-CAS.
Wow, I'm surprised that a Texas Instruments device is so much slower than a Casio device. Man - too many pros & cons for both; but I think the Casio takes the cake.
Same! I’m thinking of getting this Casio bad boy for college.
The CG50 does have a catalogue option that is called by pressing shift then 4. This brings up all the functions that can be called. I find the CG50 contextual options are more like common functions.
the ti-84 plus/plus ce also have catalouge options. you just press 2nd and then 0.
I have been using the TI-84 for the past year, I really like it how ever I have upgraded to the Casio as it you can enter complex numbers and polar number in the matrice for solving linear equations. TI-84 doesnt allow this in matrices, which is required for my electrical classes. The Casio will also both polar and complex numbers to be used in the same matrix, which is great. Both calculators are good units, I agree with you the TI-84's menu layout better than the casio.
Casio does have a solve function btw, however you are required to use limits and the number closest to etc.
I once made a program for the TI-84 Plus CE that simplifies radicals. It does take a while to compute, but it's definitely worth it..
Thanks great video appreciate it... thinking of buying the casio soon
Excellent review!
Is there an option to convert the result to engineering notation (ie. 1000 ->1*10^3) fast the same as the casio fx-991es classwiz' ENG button does on the fx cg50. Thanks for the answer.
TI is focused calculating nearest McDonalds location while Casio is focusing work.
Thank you for your review, Math Class Calculator! This played an integral role (pun intended ;)) in helping me differentiate (pun NOT intended) the Casio fx-CG50 from the Texas Instruments TI-84.
There is a nice, third-party CAS add-on called KhiCAS for the fx-CG50 (and also one for the monochrome fx-9750giii or fx-9860giii calculators).
how did you install?
@@manavrrai Installation is described in section 1.1 of the online manual by Bernard Parisse. Google "khicasioen" to find it.
I tried the sum function on a TI-nspire CX II-T and an HP Prime G2. The TI takes about 3.5 seconds, while the HP is so fast that you can't measure it. The result is displayed almost immediately after pressing the Enter key.
It's enormous how different the speed of calculators in a similar price range is. Because the Casio and the TI-84 Plus are not that much cheaper, at least here in Germany. The HP, as well as the TI nspire can both do Python, as well as CAS. The HP can also do UPN. And both have an examination mode where the teacher can then lock the programmability, CAS and much more (is constantly signalled by LEDs that are clearly visible). At least here in Germany, they are approved for exams.
Casio FX-CG50 -- €106.57
TI-84 Plus CE -- 119,95 €
HP Prime G2 -- 115,95 €
TI-Nspire CX II-T CAS -- 139.95 €
Personally, I prefer the HP, which in my opinion simply has the better operating concept (including a touchscreen), similar to the Casio. But that is of course a matter of taste.
Quick question. Casio is suitable for EE? I mean the calculator can do complex number matrix? Solve some circuits?
You can simplify fractions on the TI. Just enter it as a fraction instead of division. Press alpha and y= to enter the f1 menu.
In that same menu option 4 is to convert fraction to decimal.
Math enter enter
Yeah, but no simplification of radicals. Stop saying that Texas Instruments is better than Casio, Casio fx-CG50 is 80 euros cheaper than TI-84 Plus CE in my country and performs much better + it has a much cleaner and more intuitive UI.
Also, in my country, everyone uses the Casio calculators, I've literally never seen a student/teacher using a Texas Instrument calculator in my entire life.
@@MiScusi69only in Canada, we use a lots of Texas for graphing, even students and teachsers, and Casio classwiz fx-891E for calculating. Ngl, the TI-84 is suck af. I only used it to pass caculus 2 and never use it again. Worst experiment
In the casio fx cg 50 we have one button to do the whole thing
The number of lines on the Casio are too few compared with the TI, but the functionalities are impressive. I wish you'd compare the solver functions on each.
I have both the casio is still better and much more user friendly.
There is still the annoying blinking cursor on the TI, since ti 81 or before, 40 years ?
Wow I wasn’t expecting the TI to be so slow. The CASIO is great. Thank u for the vid 👌
The newer TI 84 plus ce's that come in a cardboard box are very fast as they have updated hardware...Same for TI 84 plus ce python version
@@stefos6431from what I heard the newest 84s are about twice as fast than the older 84 CEs. That would still put it at roughly half as fast as the CG50😂 for roughly 1.5x the price
I own a Casio Fx-cg50 and have found downloadable apps that allow it to do functions that a CAS could do.
Pls give a link to where these apps are available. Pls
It should be noted that the Casio has 2 CAS sytems that you can download (made by third parties). I could not find any CAS programs for the Ti-84.
I believe there is a cas program called pineapple cas for the ti 84 plus ce.
Is it possible to write ASM apps for CG50?
I prefer the Casio one. Use both but got used to casio in high school and been using since 2015.
However nowadays I prefer to use a cientific calc because in college they won’t let me use graph calc as often
You can't recharge AAA batteries inside the CG-50 through USB. The CG-50 also runs Micro-Python, which seems like a major omission in this comparison.
i know im late, but which one is more durable?
What do you think about Cg 50 versus HP Prime? And Ti84 is above or under the Nspire? I have seen comparisons between Prime and nspire , 84 and Nspire. But nothing about Cg50 (or 84, they are similar as you said) and Prime. Are they lower range? (A part from CAS)
Never owned a HP Prime, but it looks like a nice calculator
Thank you for your information! But I have a question, at 1:17 you said you can use rechargeable AAA batteries on CG50 and charge by USB port without taking out them and is it true? I searched internet but everyone said there is no charging option for CG50. I already ordered one but I want the correct answer ASAP. Your review quality is high enough but I concern that wrong information may contained in this video. Thanks for reading!
No, you cannot charge through the USB port even with rechargeable batteries.
Just to add on to this, the output from the included USB cable is 0.06V. Doubt that that is high enough for anything to be used on the calculator.
He's wrong. It cannot be charged from the USB port. It is strictly for data.
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Thanks for this comparative, I choose the Casio!!
Thank you!
Hay
I want to ask you form your own opinion??
What is the best
Fx-9860GIII or Fx-9860GII or fx 9750GIII or fx 9750GII
and why ??
thanks for your help 😍
You said you can put rechargeable batteries in cg50. and charge it via cable.
Are you sure it will charge the batteries? I thought that cable and jack is only for data copy
I always loved casio,
How fast is the Casio fx cg-500 compared to those calculators?
Much faster
Can they run Crysis?
If you want to have a rechargable battery for the fx-CG50(at least for the french version), there's a mod for it
What is it?
My only question is about it's porting and programming abilities and the community. I've seen the ti in action and I know that if I'm stuck on sm theres a whole community of people which have answers but I haven't researched casio yet
I have a $20 Casio fx-991EX and I prefer it to my TI-84 quite a bit. The engineering button is handy, putting the answer in exact terms instead of approximations is critical in Calc, and it's just faster to use because the TI has everything in menus. I can do a definite integral right from a button on the Casio, but I have to go to a menu in the TI and then I have to put the formula in parenthesis with the variable and the limits separated by commas. I need SIMULT2, or I'd definitely use the cheap Casio all the time. If only it supported complex numbers in matrix operations, it would be perfect. Though, having more lines of previous computations would be nice, too.
I've definitely felt the same thing about the TIs just not being as oriented toward easily getting to common functions or displaying them in a human friendly way.
@@williamweatherall8333 I got the HP Prime and it's been a game changer. I tried RPN and now I'm hooked. It supports complex numbers in matrix operations and the CAS function is handy. I just used the Laplace transform on my Diff Eq final. I probably still got a D, but the calculator is nice.
The 991ex doesnt do graphical stuff right?
@@spongypancakeThat’s right… no graphing capability on that calculator. But very nice to use if graphing isn’t needed.
hey i dont know why but i put in the same functions as you and my ti 84 was much quicker, like 1 or 2 seconds behind the casio. anyone know why????
TI made a new hardware upgrade on the TI-84 Plus CE line. To check if you have the newest hardware, check the manufacturing date, and if it ends with an M then it is the newer hardware. The newer ones are over 2x as fast.
I noticed that the ti 84 ce was a more expensive so i just bought the casio fx cg 50 and its great! I've seen most people do so much on a ti 84 for just simple calculations and its def easier on the casio.
is casio support assembly programs that have been banned by ti
thankyou very much your presentation is very informative
Which one would you suggest for college algebra, probability and statistics?
Hp g50
@@nicolastorres9993 It appears to contain a CAS, which disqualifies it from most math classes that I'm familiar with.
Casio fx-991Ex classwiz. Better and faster version of its predecessor (fx-991es)
Tbh it doesnt really matter, for college almost any calculator will work, a old ti 83 would be more than enough. The problem is if you are majoring in lets say engineering then the engineering tests wont let you have a graphing calculator period. If you really want a newer one tho, id go with the casio cuz its way cheaper and does the exact same thing.
Where is this ≈ approximately equal to symbol in the Casio cg50?
I think the SD key performs a similar function, converting between decimal (.ie approximately equal) and symbolic (exact) display of the answer.
How to periodic table in cg50
Just returned my Ti-84 Plus CE after finding out that the ASM program door was permanently removed from its operating system. Exchanged it for the Casio FX-CG50, and with exception of the batteries, it is a laughingly superior graphing calculator at nearly $70 cheaper.
There are jailbreaks now but the 84 is so far behind now that it's not worth it
Does casio support ASM please notify me if so
Jailbreak works well on TI 84 CE
@@Thermo88 it does, C/C++ and ASM
I tried the summation at 6:14 on HP Prime Lite running on an iPhone and the result was displayed as soon as I pressed enter.
Cause thats your phone it is a much more powerfull device but students can use those tho the prime can also do it damn fast
@@petermikus2363 Yeah, the Prime is such an OP calculator.
FX-CG50
- much faster
- larger screen
- more functional
- python
- replaceable batteries
- much cheaper
TI-84 Plus CE
- better menus (I disagree)
- thinner and lighter
I disagree with the better menus as well. The Casio Home screen looks way prettier, more organized and easier to understand
In my opinion having used both the Casio is better just because its user friendly.
The f buttons on the casio seem harder to use than TI's menu though.
You can get radical answers with the ce if you mess with the settings.
Are you sure about that?
How
@@MathClassCalculator You can program it to simplify radicals. However, messing with the settings won’t let you do it.
@@MathClassCalculator does the >frac catalog item work? I don't have a 84ce to test it with but heard that might work.
I have the Casio FX CG50, Ti 84 Plus CE Python, Ti 84 Plus, TI Nspire, and HP Prime and out of all of those I use the CG50 the least. I don't think the menus are bad but sometimes they aren't intuitive and I do not like the RUN-MATRIX app at all compared to any of the other brands. The inability to edit and bring down previous problems quickly and efficiently is very annoying. That being said there are a lot of good things about the CG50 such as price, performance, and lots of apps and functions. I enjoy using TIs the most with the HP Prime close behind but I've never really liked the Casio too much.
it is good for me iam a mechanical engineering student ?
Sure, the CASIO will change your life
The Ti-Nspire CX is allowed on standardized tests and will solve equations with nsolve. However, the TI-nspire CAS is not allowed on standardized tests.
good
I have a CG50 and there is one problem. You can accidentally erase the built in features when you are erasing equations, variables etc.
I lost both the 3D functionality and the built in picture graphing.
Unless you have a computer with a built in USB port, you are out of luck.
In the System app, you should be able to reset the calculator back to its stock settings.
@Isaac I tried that. It doesn’t work. You need a computer with a USB port to get all the preloaded apps back.
@@irishchocolate3872 It's the same with the ti 84 plus ce.
what the hell???????????
i thought 2 seconds was long, i found out it takes my calculator like 10+seconds to do that integral 5:35
i realize im a nerd now because im looking at reviews for calculators ...
The TI-84 can give exact answers as well. Just press the fraction to decimal button to toggle between fraction and decimal. Even my mid range TI-30XS scientific calculator can do this.
The TI-84 is still going to be the more capable calculator mainly because teachers and instructors will know their way around the TI-84 more so than the Casio across North America. So if you need help, your instructors are more likely to know exactly what you need to press to input your mathematical calculations.
TI also just generally has more support in North America as well.
Both are great calculators. But the TI will be the better solution if your going to university more often than not. Especially if the lesson plans are molded around the TI.
Exact opposite for me in the UK!
I think by exact answers, they mean for radical and pi not for fractions.
Ti controls the monopoly mkt on calculators in school
I prefer the casio
In the UK only Casio calculators are used.
TI seems to be totally dominant in the US while almost unknown elsewhere. I think government schools requiring a domestic product is protectionism.
When it comes to test timevu have so long on how to fo the work on each problem
is this overkill if i buy this as a 7th grader
I got a casio fx cg50 in 8th grade. Go on ahead and get one (I recommend casio over ti but it is your choice) if you plan on going to college, but if not and you just plan on going through high school, rely on the calculator provided by your school
I got both, but there is a newer version and of the TI-84 the is slightly faster but still it is no match to the CG-50.
Edit: To be honest the tiny boxes at the bottoms of the screen are really useful.
Which is better to graph 3d? The hp prime?
@@nicolastorres9993 hp prime is a million times better to graph. It is fast responsive and so on. But there some minor inconveniences that you have to deal with on a daily basis. Like putting multiplication signs between parenthesis. Very vague error codes or error codes that don’t tell you what is wrong. Then you have to deal with that there are almost no complete tutorials for it and it is not very similar to how the TI is used. I’ve had to look up how to graph when I first bought it lol.
@@Majibu101 what about ti nspire cx or casio? Are those better to graph?
@@nicolastorres9993 I would say the Casio is miles better. Reason Being that cemetech has 3d graphing programs for it that make it thrash the TI.
@@Majibu101 which calculator shoud i buy for casio?
I had to recheck on ti 84 it can do calculus
CASIO all the way!
How do I get my Cg50 to convert to engineering notation?
shift > menu (setup) > scroll down till you find "display" > select eng
Ti instruments has a market monopoly on calculators
In America, sure (literally exclusively due to corporate lobbying). ROW respects Casio calculators more
Wow the summation was 20 secs on the CG50, it took 19 mins 45 secs on my trusty Casio fx991ES PLUS C 2nd edition.
It took about 40secs on the similar B&W Casio fix-9750GIII, not too bad. I ran it on the HP Prime and got the result back instantly. The HP Prime is always very fast. As you point out, it runs *much* slower on Casio’s lower-cost calculators; I tried it on the fx-115es plus 2nd edition (similar, I believe to the fx-991ES)… it was so slow that I rewrote it to only do 1000 summations rather than 10,000… it took 4 minutes to perform 1/10th of the summations.
I have used a decade old fx9750gii for almost all of my calculations, then one of my professors made be get a ti84. I almost vomited after seeing how long it takes the ti84 to graph a simple line. Then scrolling? dear lord, it was painfully. I put the ti84 away after that course and never picked it up again.
Maybe there is some magic to it, but I just don't see it lol.
The only now is to update the cg50 software u he equivalent to ti 84 ce plus
Casio is the best!
In Europe TI is not widely used it’s the total opposite than the US, tho the HP Prime is far superior makes them both look like kids calculators just a shame HP wasn’t adopted and since HP has dropped out of the calculator market they is very little support for software development for HP unlike CASIO it’s fully support it tho TI has lately dropped support so just CASIO left.
Texas Instruments was very smart when graphing calculators started being introduced in the late 1980s.
While TI was late to the party (Casio and Hewlett Packard introduced their graphing models way earlier) , TI worked very closely with US textbook publishers, with textbook exercises based on TI keystrokes and format. Further, TI has a lot of outreach with science and math teachers in the US.
Coming up on 35 years, the TI-83 and TI-84 calculator families are what most teachers recommend that students get.
@@MikeB3542 that’s in the US, in Europe CASIO #1 everything is geared around CASIO were Ti what’s that it’s practically unheard of by kids.
Even in the 80s all CASIO.
Tho I don’t know what the Ti screen is like but fxCG50 dreadful washed out looking colors way off like Red looks pink, Green looks lime green just terrible
The HP Prime despite it’s angle and being used upside down is TrueColor RGB888 it looks quite decent
The CASIO is RGB565
And can’t understand Algebra the implied •,
Try typing in something like 3/3(3) it says oh you mean 3/(3(3)) when it’s 3/3•3 on Ti and HP
My HP prime is really fast
i even have the updated python version of the ti which is much faster and it still loses the race to casio
update: summation is about 46 seconds, and graphin WITH ASYMPTOES OFF can make tifinish faster, however this does screw up tangent
I feel like that the ti lineup has more programs/games than any other brand
👍Casio won .....
I have the Newer version of the TI-84 Plus CE and the test you did on 6:37 only took less than 2 sec to complete.
Test is time consuming for college algebra we had to do it by hand and not to many profsvdo it that way
ever heard of rechargeable batteries?
I still prefer the TI-84. it's more commonly used and I'm sure that it will get more software support for long time to come
ti-84 is also fast, but only for people, who can read operating manual, my ti-84 needs les than 3 sec. to draw this. the way of shortcuts on texas is very smart.
the Casio is better
Wolfram Alpha should be included in the mix. It can be added to any smartphone. It is a subset of Mathematica and Wolfram's excellent database. There is virtually no math problem that Alpha can't handle. It does symbolic algebra and calculus without a pause. In fact, it will give you the necessary steps it used to get the answer. Best of all, it's free.
Buy the Casio it’s my best friend ask me anything
I am convinced the TI calculator is only still relevant thanks to lobbying in the US
Casio absolutely embarrasses the TI offerings
or US can afford them..
@@user-cr6qv1bn2u thing is, I was right. TI DID in fact lobby to push their calculator programs across as many US schools as possible, putting their calcs into the teacher's hands have made them the default choice for students. They basically manufactured their monopoly in the US.
Your dismissal only supports such power of corporations over people.
Yes… I think schools (and their students) and the associated standardized testing govern the modern calculator market. TI does not market to individual students (or engineers) any more; it markets to larger entities… school districts, etc. Once districts or states have picked a preferred calculator, teachers and students naturally follow. In the U.S. this almost always means TI. All this also results in the stagnation of much further calculator development. Our ‘devices’ and their software have largely supplanted calculators outside of the schools. It’s a bit of a shame, because dedicated devices like calculators *can* be nicer to work with than purely software-based platforms (e.g. smartphones).
Can someone explain why such calculators still exist in the age of multi core 2GHz+ phones and tablets?
The calculator companies have a monopoly on the market because of contracts with schools and test companies. They can release these weak calculators with extremely low specs because people will still buy them. You can buy a 7 year old phone for the same price as a ti-84 and it will be 100x faster.
@@kal386 well it's more of a duopoly
@@isaacong quagmire from family guy
well you cant use them in exams while you can use calcs
I am a working adult. This means I can use either a phone or a calculator. Still, I prefer calculator for direct key access and always ready mode. On a phone, you have to unlock and then navigate to the calculator app. Having to do this every time you need to do some calculations is taxing. Which, for me, can be 10-20 times in an hour. Plus, I can be a bit more rough with a calculator than with a phone.
I do not like the idea of a built in rechargeable battery on a calculator. It puts a time limit for the device. I still have a graphing calculator I bought over 25 years ago.
And casio lets you write notes 😈
I really wish Casio shoved a low end mediatek smartphone in it, it would of given this calculator one HELL of a performance boost.
That is what treyarch zombie players would call "pack a punched".
You never ever need a graphic calculator. Normal scientific calc is enough to finish an engineering degree.
Well it's strongly recommended for further maths A-level course.
@@ks2091 Even in A-level or degree, graphing calc is not needed. You do all the equations and formulas on a scientific calc.
When you do need to create charts or graphs you use Excel or some maths software like Matlab, Derive, etc.
@@a.m.9357 Ah yes, let me whip out matlab during my calculus exams
@@jaronhunt8229 If you have ever sat a maths exam you would have known that NO exam asks anyone to waste their precious time drawing graphs!
Mostly they ask for figures and equations. In the rare events they do want drawing, they simply ask for apprx drawing or partial graphs. They do not expect students to walk with expensive graphing calcs.
The most useful thing that has come out of the calculator business in the last 20 years is the ability to input formulae as we write on our notes.
If graphing calcs are so important, how do you think people in the '50s, '60s, and '70s solved complex problems of fighter jets, submarines, satellites, space telescopes, space shuttles, missiles, sky-scrapers, suspension bridges, molecular biology, quantum physics, etc., when there was no graphing calculators?
Indeed, how do you think calculus itself was developed back when they didn't even have a mechanical calculator at that time? 😃
You do not need a graphing calc, ever! It might be cool and it might show you a few fancy graphs, but it's NOT essential to even do your Ph.D! :-)
@@a.m.9357 Never said it was vital, just convenient. For example when you're using shell or disk method it helps to visualize what you're doing.
Nice comparison but does it matter? When I was in college I tried going with other calculators that were better than what TI had to offer (HP and Casio). But soon it got to be too annoying using something other than what the professors were using and familiar with. TI is overpriced and underpowered, but in the classroom they are the ones to have. And if you're not in a classroom, there's no need for these.
That’s such a good point.. I’m looking to upgrade from my ti-84 bc I lost the case and the screen is messed up. I’ll be a junior majoring in engineering so of course I’m looking at all the reviews.. I think my best bet is to buy a used ti or just keep the old one for class and I’m considering the HP prime as my upgrade.
Ti 84 can't do calculus like the casio cg 50 can. Look at the package of ti84 and it gives u the subjects it covers
I have an emulator of the TI-92 (plus) on my psp 3000 and is much quicker tan the TI-84 Plus ce 😮
That's not true about charging rechargable batteries through the mini USB port. The USB port is to transfer data. It does not charge the batteries. I have rechargeable batteries and they don't work.
In Europe here casio is the most popular in schools.
I honestly don't know why people use the ti-84 so much. Casio fx cg 50 is much much better, easy to use and cheaper as well
The situation is more of like Android and iPhone wars, where Android is the fx-CG50, and the iPhone is the TI-84 Plus CE, since the public prefers the TI-84 Plus CE more, other buyers will go for it without hesitating.
I sincerely don't get why Texas still includes that ridiculous hardware into their products. I don't think the Casio can be considered as a powerful or fast piece of hardware, but yet that Ti-84 accomplishes to pale if compared to that. That's just bullshit, exactly as the Ti-Nspire I bought a couple of days ago. Initially I thought it was a deal, but I realized how it's probably worth less than the 20 dollars I paid it.
It's a brand name that you are paying for.
@@Amer76R I get it but they're offering incredibly poor hardware for a considerably higher price. I would be quite ok to have a only slightly superior or at least comparable product while paying more for their brand, but Casio is making 50 dollars calculator faster than any of theirs at this point. That's unacceptable dude. And i can't get why they keep doing this. We're not talking about a market where research or particular development has to be done. Any Cortex chip would perform infinitely better than any calculator from both Texas and Casio while probably consuming less and costing nothing.
And i don't want my calculator to be able to run COD Mobile, even moving a slightly complex graph in a seemingly fluid way would be enough. Something you obviously don't get even on their 150 dollars top tier model nowadays, and that you can do with a free app on any phone. That's simply ridicolous.
I get it, but for 100$ you can even get a tablet that can do way much. Its the people if they pump the price and people keep buying they will do it again, bcs. Why not?
@@Amer76R I guess people keep buying those because they have to, they're necessary and even requested by schools in several places globally. The problem is that in the US Texas products are the only ones teacher know how to use and will request for their classes, the only ones school books include exercises for and the only ones everyone has used in the past 30 years, so they can pretty much do whatever they want with prices without worrying about market share or competitors. People will just buy their product. And while that's surely not good i could stay with it, until they actually put some effort and at least make their shitty calculators usable. As I said I bought a Ti-Nspire touchpad some time ago and I've been incredibly disappointed with its performances. All it takes to make it lag is a long text or a function more complex than a linear one. And with Casios doing a lot more and better with LOWER prices everything becomes even more ridiculous.
@@ekifi For the best and unbeatable speed, take an HP prime V2
My TI-81 (2MHz Z80 from 1990) finished those graphs 5 seconds faster than your TI-84 (48MHz eZ80 from 2015) .
There must be something off with your settings.