Yes, I did. I think though, I read in new book The Horse God Built: "It's not that I don't love Secretariat, I do, it's just that I'm in AWE of him, his power, speed, his beauty." Also reason Riva was in her heart was her father, when R won KD she called hospital and nurse told him (was watching) and tears in his eyes. Riva initially saved Meadow financially.
Today, I met his original groom, Michael Price. The love he had for this guy was unreal. He choked up just talking about him. If you don't believe me, he has photos to back this up.
He's a stallion. I'd say 80% of that video the only thing he's thinking about is how to get to the mares. Even off season he thinks he should be leading his own herd and protecting them. It's nature.
The chains are necessary, even in horse rescue when I had a TB recently off the track I used a chain around people and other horses used correctly they are neither mean nor cruel.
@kwmred I work with these horses DAILY here in Los Angeles. Having the stud chain over his nose is HOW they handle TB stallions, anywhere u go. He is walking him fine, close to his shoulder & when he starts to get nippy or won't stand still, he is pushing his face away & checking him w/ the stud chain letting him know it's not ok, & gets him refocused 2 stand still. They do not hire people at these farms unless they are comfortable with TB's, even the mares.
Rapid Cat is his son's daughter's son =) Storm Bird is Storm Cat's daddy. He is such a handsome stallion, one of my favourites. We used to have his grandson around here.
my mare's great grand father! her racing name was cat's punch now she is known as "Izzy". Super sweet gray/roan mare ... VERY ATHLETIC she can bounce around and get all four feet off the ground no problem! this will be her first show season cant wait to see how she does!!!
Explain just how the chain controls the horse. Is it some psycholgical bluff to make him think the Groom is more powerful than him or what? Fascinating stuff about all these different kinds of tack to manage horses.
The chain works in two way, first by tightening and second by offering pressure over a smaller surface area. If the horse resists or if a handler is deliberately trying to get a horses attention the chain slides through the rings of the halter, constricting and applying tension where the lays. When the horse stops pulling then the tension is released. If you watch, you can see that the chain is wrapped once around the noseband of the halter before being attached to the far ring. This is to limit the chains ability to constrict and most people will employ chains this way.
I don't think he's shanking Storm Cat, he's tugging the chain to keep his attention and keep him from getting any ideas. Given his rep of being a mean S.O.B., they are being cautious. They warn the guy of him kicking in the video, and he's trying to gnaw on his handler--he's not a lamb.
People you have to remember this is a 1500 pound animal the chain is not hurting him if you have ever been around a rousy stallion you will understand it helps,and if rt was causing the horse pain he would be responding as if he were hurt and u can see he keeps trying to bite and is being reminded he shouldnt
his back is like that i think more from age than anything else.he doesn't have the "classic" thoroughbred look,he's also built a little more like a sprinter than anything, you can see it with his thick neck and huge hindquarters and his chest is really thick too. he's my horse's grandsire and they look very similar, but jazz's back isn't deep like that, but as he gets old, i'm sure i'll see some changes
Omg people the handler is not hurting him with that chain. It is wrapped around his halter wich reduces the bite of the chain. He is simply trying to get his attention and let the horse know who is the boss.
Beautiful. I'm not sure what's going on with his knees though. You can see something there around 1:35. A nasty know on his right knee and he stands as if he's in pain. Obviously this is an old video, but just pointing out something was going on.
@@fklifter1 You mean northern dancer, a grandson of the glass legged siring native dancer. Those horses have horrible legs. This horse here his knees are shot to heck and back.
@@vwyldrose1153 lol 80 percent of the horses today have Northern Dancers bloodline in them LOL enough said Northern Dancer was the greatest sire of the 20th century check out all the great horses bloodline you will see him there not once but 2 or sometimes 3 times.Anybody who knows anything about horses can tell you that
@@fklifter1 yeah and look at all the track break downs. If you think being fast is all that counts you are part of the problem. Those horses legs are shit and everyone knows it.
@@fklifter1 I also know bloodlines. I love how you know it alls always assume people don't have a clue. Shows how smug and stupid you are and how hard you are trying to prove you know something.
yeah, he ran second in the Breeders' Cup Juvenile in 1985; won the now-defunct GI Young America S. that year, too. was an okay race horse, but certainly nothing that would indicate would sort of sire he would become.
Storm cat is known for acting out they are just keeping him in check so they know where his attention is. He has before hurt people so they are just keeping people and him safe. This doesnt hurt him it just keeps him constantly in check
In other words he's got a shitful temperment. Typical of these race horses. They are bred to run and run only, no mind to disposition, conformation or anything else. Most of them have no sense at all and will hurt you in a second.
V Wyldrose He is a stallion and full of testosterone. Many stallions are rammy, which is why there are so many geldings. Stallions are very hard to handle.
@@ruthgoebel723 Go talk to someone else like they know nothing. I've handled horses and stallions for 40 years. The reason there are so many geldings is because 1 out of 1000 male horses may be stud quality. Stallions are a product of their breeding and handling. There are good and bad ones.
Yes, I did, like her site. It's sad that farm will be lost. Think read original home her father rebuilt was also taken down. Not even sure his foaling shed will be kept. It's not much but it was his. Also read in sec dot com Q&A w/PC that Somethingroyal is buried there, so there must be some part saved.
His dam Terlingua was put down April of 1008 I think, infirmities of old age. God she was wonderful. There's a video of her by cf1970 here, you should watch it.
my horse is his grandson too and my horse doesn't nip and bite. its a "stallion thing." they can be extremely mouthy. and the handler is doing his job just fine, considering that Storm Cat is a stallion and they can be very dangerous. I've worked with stallions before and you definitely need to keep their attention. its also important to keep their heads straight, because they can turn around and bite pretty quick.
lmaooooooo! Ive owned 12 stallions and trained ALOT...please gain more experience before you post BS like this! Stallions are NOT dangerous..handlers are.
I said they can be. Not that all of them are. Horses in general are dangerous. They’re big and could easily kill a human if they wanted. I have plenty of experience with stallions and they were magnificent horses. But I definitely didn’t turn my back when I was handling one. 🙄
I own one of his grandsons. No white but otherwise looks and ACTS just like him. I've never used the chain, have used natural training and sometimes he tries to bites, strike and rear. I've never had a gelding like this. Under saddle he's amazing. Leading him around is scary sometimes! I'm looking into positive reinforcement training next to get better manners. He'll do anything for a carrot!
@goldenbear1950 - I couldn't agree with you more. Excessively yanking on the stud chain for no reason. He already KNOWS it's there and is standing quiet. He doesn't need to yank on it and push his neck away. He is already respecting his space. I have a TB, ex-racer from the track who thinks he is still a stud but knows when he can play up and when he can't.
I was quoting fm excerpt on studslife dot com, 3rd para fm bottom, He's a dark bay but when he moves in the sunlight you can pick up flashes of a honey-gold color that comes fm the chestnut horses on his mother's side... I know he's a dark bay, I've been watching him romp in his paddock on the video for months.
Meanwhile a horse rescue( they have a youtube channel ) saved one of his progeny from a kill pen. Just goes to show that lineage means nothing when you are deemed useless for the track :-(
narrator said he's efficient. that's what Penny Chenery said about Secretariat, just goes in, makes it easy, one cover... I had to chuckle.. still Mr. Calm, nothing bothered him.
Did you see the fluid on his right knee? It was collecting there. He's getting older and sometimes horses do collect fluid like an old man or woman will on their knees. But no, it's not cruel but, you do have to be careful around studs. There was a woman in the Uk who is a trainer and one of her studs grabbed her by the throat and tore her voice box out! She can't speak again. IF they're breeding, their weight can go up sometimes to 1200 or more pounds and that's alot of horse to handle.
@MUSICSOULCHICK The guy acts like he's afraid of the horse. People who are comfortable around horses don't have to do that sort of thing. So unnecessary.
@bladeofbattousai yrs, the excerpt on Studslife site is wonderful, and heartwarming and funny, reading comments of Overbrook staff guy describe SC's personality and antics and his comments on SC, broodmares and the breeding process.
@bon1042 I think I found what you were talking about. I read part of the book by Kevin Conley where he talks about Storm Cat, which was pretty interesting.
there's no golden red in his coat. he is a bay/dark brown. most bay/brown horses have the lighter color around their nose. Storm Cat is my horse's grandpa, and they really look so similar. My horse actually resembles Storm Cat more than his sire.
If you all want to absolutely ENJOY this magnificent specimen, go to this site I stumbled on couple of yrs ago after seeing the short video by cf1970 of Storm Cat Romping in His Paddock. Google - type in studslife Storm Cat and read the excerpt by Kevin Conley fm 2002 when he visited Overbrook Farm. You'll LOVE it !! Wonderful stuff and esp comments by the vet and farm owner re. Storm Cat ! Actually think he's not doing study duty anymore, think I read he's retired.
@TheBeautyonHorseback I disagree. He was not an aggressive horse, only in races which was more physiologically that physically He ran aggressively to win. Ye she got small corrections as he is a stud, tis what they do, Secretariat was like that too, he has perfect ground manners.
Yes, he is what, 23 now? You hate to think that we have to lose them... maybe he'll live as long as his Mama, I'd love to see video of her. There's a good picture of her on pedigreequery dotcom
Wow, he hit the genetic jackpot! Secretariat & Northern Dancer were his grandpas.
We have a five year-old at our barn sired by this guy. Lovely horses, both of them.
Great horses never fail to inspire. And he was great.
Northern Dancer, greatest, storm bird, storm cat, sire of the century.
Gorgeous horse. He looks regal like his grandfather.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVED HIS MOMMA, THE GREAT TERLINGUA, DAUGHTER OF THE GREAT SECRETARIAT.
Yes yes you said it all
My horse is HIS SON and he looks just like him🥰🐴😂
We have one out of Storm Cat and Secretariat and you'd think he was fast, but he won exactly 1 race 😂😭
And storm bird his daddy son of northern dancer!
@@Thatshowingcowpony hahaha my mare lost 3 and one didn’t finish. She’s his granddaughter
I mean you can’t get a better mumma & grandpa than this horse has as far as amazing genes!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Yes, I did. I think though, I read in new book The Horse God Built: "It's not that I don't love Secretariat, I do, it's just that I'm in AWE of him, his power, speed, his beauty." Also reason Riva was in her heart was her father, when R won KD she called hospital and nurse told him (was watching) and tears in his eyes. Riva initially saved Meadow financially.
He looks alot like his Grandpa Northern Dancer the greatest sire of the 20th century
Today, I met his original groom, Michael Price. The love he had for this guy was unreal. He choked up just talking about him. If you don't believe me, he has photos to back this up.
Gorgeous horse
The groom is keeping Cat distracted- playing with the chain - that is NOT yanking on it.
What a gorgeous boy!!!!!
I love him!
Secretariat will always be my all time favorite horse!
What a creature he is bEAUTIFUL!!LOVE MY THOROUGHBREDS!
I have an OTTB who is one of this guy’s great grandsons. His sire is High Cotton and him and his dad are like twins they look so so similar
He didn't have to yank on his halter so badly. No wonder Storm Cat tried to bite him
He's a stallion. I'd say 80% of that video the only thing he's thinking about is how to get to the mares. Even off season he thinks he should be leading his own herd and protecting them. It's nature.
My horses grandpa is this stunning guy 😍
The chains are necessary, even in horse rescue when I had a TB recently off the track I used a chain around people and other horses used correctly they are neither mean nor cruel.
To protect ur horse...people can be mean or cruel..u never know!!! 🐎🐴🐎🐴🐎🐴
May he rest in peace .. SC was euthanized April 24, 2013
@kwmred I work with these horses DAILY here in Los Angeles. Having the stud chain over his nose is HOW they handle TB stallions, anywhere u go. He is walking him fine, close to his shoulder & when he starts to get nippy or won't stand still, he is pushing his face away & checking him w/ the stud chain letting him know it's not ok, & gets him refocused 2 stand still. They do not hire people at these farms unless they are comfortable with TB's, even the mares.
Rapid Cat is his son's daughter's son =) Storm Bird is Storm Cat's daddy.
He is such a handsome stallion, one of my favourites. We used to have his grandson around here.
ディープインパクトと相性抜群
We own one of Storm Cat's grandsons.
My horse is his son and they look IDENTICAL🥰😂
My horse is a granddaughter!!!!!
my mare's great grand father! her racing name was cat's punch now she is known as "Izzy". Super sweet gray/roan mare ... VERY ATHLETIC she can bounce around and get all four feet off the ground no problem! this will be her first show season cant wait to see how she does!!!
looks and acts just like him
Wow he's beautiful💕😘
reminds me of Northern Dancer
Explain just how the chain controls the horse. Is it some psycholgical bluff to make him think the Groom is more powerful than him or what? Fascinating stuff about all these different kinds of tack to manage horses.
The chain works in two way, first by tightening and second by offering pressure over a smaller surface area. If the horse resists or if a handler is deliberately trying to get a horses attention the chain slides through the rings of the halter, constricting and applying tension where the lays. When the horse stops pulling then the tension is released. If you watch, you can see that the chain is wrapped once around the noseband of the halter before being attached to the far ring. This is to limit the chains ability to constrict and most people will employ chains this way.
I don't think he's shanking Storm Cat, he's tugging the chain to keep his attention and keep him from getting any ideas. Given his rep of being a mean S.O.B., they are being cautious. They warn the guy of him kicking in the video, and he's trying to gnaw on his handler--he's not a lamb.
My mare' s grandpa definitely energetic lol very talented fast and brave jumper
People you have to remember this is a 1500 pound animal the chain is not hurting him if you have ever been around a rousy stallion you will understand it helps,and if rt was causing the horse pain he would be responding as if he were hurt and u can see he keeps trying to bite and is being reminded he shouldnt
I don’t think he was 1500 ponds- more like :1200 or 1300 . Eve
Amazing video of the greatest Sire there ever was....and ever will be! No other horse is even a close 2nd!
So far tapit seems to he competing pretty well.
I would say his grand sire, Northern Dancer, was probably the greatest sire of the 20th century.
Call Bold ruler was a phenomenal sire
his back is like that i think more from age than anything else.he doesn't have the "classic" thoroughbred look,he's also built a little more like a sprinter than anything, you can see it with his thick neck and huge hindquarters and his chest is really thick too. he's my horse's grandsire and they look very similar, but jazz's back isn't deep like that, but as he gets old, i'm sure i'll see some changes
Omg people the handler is not hurting him with that chain. It is wrapped around his halter wich reduces the bite of the chain. He is simply trying to get his attention and let the horse know who is the boss.
Beautiful. I'm not sure what's going on with his knees though. You can see something there around 1:35. A nasty know on his right knee and he stands as if he's in pain. Obviously this is an old video, but just pointing out something was going on.
Marco is a great groom...trust me he knows what is going on.
STORM CAT BEAUTIFUL LIKE HIS MOM, TERLINQUA AND AN AMAZING RUNNER LIKE HIS GRANDPA SECRETARIAT.
MAY YOU ALL RIP.
You mean like his dad Storm Bird And his Grandpa the greatest sire of the 20th century Northern Dancer
@@fklifter1 You mean northern dancer, a grandson of the glass legged siring native dancer. Those horses have horrible legs. This horse here his knees are shot to heck and back.
@@vwyldrose1153 lol 80 percent of the horses today have Northern Dancers bloodline in them LOL enough said Northern Dancer was the greatest sire of the 20th century check out all the great horses bloodline you will see him there not once but 2 or sometimes 3 times.Anybody who knows anything about horses can tell you that
@@fklifter1 yeah and look at all the track break downs. If you think being fast is all that counts you are part of the problem. Those horses legs are shit and everyone knows it.
@@fklifter1 I also know bloodlines. I love how you know it alls always assume people don't have a clue. Shows how smug and stupid you are and how hard you are trying to prove you know something.
yeah, he ran second in the Breeders' Cup Juvenile in 1985; won the now-defunct GI Young America S. that year, too. was an okay race horse, but certainly nothing that would indicate would sort of sire he would become.
The l8ne of the great boy wonder keeps coming. His grandfather .
He is my horses grandpa
His dad is tiger dance
May he RIP
RIP forever Legend :((
Rest in peace we will never forget you!!
Hard to believe Wes is gone...
R.I.P. Storm Cat
Storm cat is known for acting out they are just keeping him in check so they know where his attention is. He has before hurt people so they are just keeping people and him safe. This doesnt hurt him it just keeps him constantly in check
In other words he's got a shitful temperment. Typical of these race horses. They are bred to run and run only, no mind to disposition, conformation or anything else. Most of them have no sense at all and will hurt you in a second.
V Wyldrose He is a stallion and full of testosterone. Many stallions are rammy, which is why there are so many geldings. Stallions are very hard to handle.
@@ruthgoebel723 Go talk to someone else like they know nothing. I've handled horses and stallions for 40 years. The reason there are so many geldings is because 1 out of 1000 male horses may be stud quality. Stallions are a product of their breeding and handling. There are good and bad ones.
@@vwyldrose1153 Maybe you should have posted your resume here so every one would know what an expert you are.
Yes, I did, like her site. It's sad that farm will be lost. Think read original home her father rebuilt was also taken down. Not even sure his foaling shed will be kept. It's not much but it was his. Also read in sec dot com Q&A w/PC that Somethingroyal is buried there, so there must be some part saved.
We have one of his sons at my barn and I take care of him:) his name is Pasketty:)
Why does the handler keep jiggling the chain? You'd think that'd annoy the horse...especially 2:16-2:30.
His dam Terlingua was put down April of 1008 I think, infirmities of old age. God she was wonderful. There's a video of her by cf1970 here, you should watch it.
The groom is handling him just fine.
shammy dammy No, he's not!
@@1GixxerGirl thankyou!
Why is this guy so rough with him?I mean, he is a senior.
ah, I see. That makes sense. Dang you know a lot about horses.
His sire storm bird was a champion 2 year old a seriously good horse.
You couldn't pay me a million to walk up behind storm cat on his off side.
we own one of his granddaughters and she is a sweet little filly
I have a son of Storm Cat. Best horse i own
Damn how much did that cost I'm probably way to late but I'm asking anyways
R.I.P., champion!!! :(
PS: NEIGHHHHHHHHHH!!!
The great American Pharoah is related to this guy.
Take it easy with the chain guy
my horse is his grandson too and my horse doesn't nip and bite. its a "stallion thing." they can be extremely mouthy. and the handler is doing his job just fine, considering that Storm Cat is a stallion and they can be very dangerous. I've worked with stallions before and you definitely need to keep their attention. its also important to keep their heads straight, because they can turn around and bite pretty quick.
lmaooooooo! Ive owned 12 stallions and trained ALOT...please gain more experience before you post BS like this! Stallions are NOT dangerous..handlers are.
I said they can be. Not that all of them are. Horses in general are dangerous. They’re big and could easily kill a human if they wanted. I have plenty of experience with stallions and they were magnificent horses. But I definitely didn’t turn my back when I was handling one. 🙄
@@eventerjazz6 You are an idiot. Horses are not " in general dangerous" humans most certainly ARE- especially ignorant ones, like you.
Stormcat shares my birthday.
like i'm going to go look up every single horse i see on youtube? your right, but i'm sorry, ok?
i didn't know...
I own one of his grandsons. No white but otherwise looks and ACTS just like him. I've never used the chain, have used natural training and sometimes he tries to bites, strike and rear. I've never had a gelding like this. Under saddle he's amazing. Leading him around is scary sometimes! I'm looking into positive reinforcement training next to get better manners. He'll do anything for a carrot!
Deanna Kiester What is the name of this grandson
he's $300,000 now
Beautiful. You can tell a Secretariat baby😝💓😍
And a northern dancer baby!
@goldenbear1950 - I couldn't agree with you more. Excessively yanking on the stud chain for no reason. He already KNOWS it's there and is standing quiet. He doesn't need to yank on it and push his neck away. He is already respecting his space. I have a TB, ex-racer from the track who thinks he is still a stud but knows when he can play up and when he can't.
She was the spitting image of him 4 white legs white star turning to stripe. Exactly his.color.
I got one of his boys .
Was your boy sweet?
No way storm cat! I have a horse out of storm cat where i work named barn cat
I was quoting fm excerpt on studslife dot com, 3rd para fm bottom, He's a dark bay but when he moves in the sunlight you can pick up flashes of a honey-gold color that comes fm the chestnut horses on his mother's side... I know he's a dark bay, I've been watching him romp in his paddock on the video for months.
This is my baby's grand-dad I hope he will live upto his grampas name.
Meanwhile a horse rescue( they have a youtube channel ) saved one of his progeny from a kill pen.
Just goes to show that lineage means nothing when you are deemed useless for the track :-(
Good bye Storm Cat
A whole lotta horse, you can see the goldish red in his coat, fm Terlingua and her daddy. What's the chance of seeing some video of Terlingua??
narrator said he's efficient. that's what Penny Chenery said about Secretariat, just goes in, makes it easy, one cover... I had to chuckle.. still Mr. Calm, nothing bothered him.
Did you see the fluid on his right knee? It was collecting there. He's getting older and sometimes horses do collect fluid like an old man or woman will on their knees. But no, it's not cruel but, you do have to be careful around studs. There was a woman in the Uk who is a trainer and one of her studs grabbed her by the throat and tore her voice box out! She can't speak again.
IF they're breeding, their weight can go up sometimes to 1200 or more pounds and that's alot of horse to handle.
I don't know why he was pulling the chain. He was pretty calm already.
He wasn't syndicated...the Youngs owned him outright.
Where is Mare Haven farm?
@MUSICSOULCHICK The guy acts like he's afraid of the horse. People who are comfortable around horses don't have to do that sort of thing. So unnecessary.
Our filly who is his grandaughter.is now in foal for next year to "Dashing Dane" who is by another great legend "Danehill" so fingers crossed
@bladeofbattousai yrs, the excerpt on Studslife site is wonderful, and heartwarming and funny, reading comments of Overbrook staff guy describe SC's personality and antics and his comments on SC, broodmares and the breeding process.
Rip big boy
I own his Son, And he is such a canon, but i love him, He has Secretariats blaze but Stoarm cats colouring
Missus Land died many years ago.
@bon1042 I think I found what you were talking about. I read part of the book by Kevin Conley where he talks about Storm Cat, which was pretty interesting.
my friend owns one of his grandcolts
hes goregous =]
only 100k Thoroughbreds stud fees are reallly high.
@MrTrees4u YOU MUST BE VERY PROUD!!! CUZ YOU OWN A HORSE FROM SECRETARIATS FAMILY TREE!!
i own his halter
Megatron 06 I highly doubtful of that
there's no golden red in his coat. he is a bay/dark brown. most bay/brown horses have the lighter color around their nose. Storm Cat is my horse's grandpa, and they really look so similar. My horse actually resembles Storm Cat more than his sire.
RIP
If you all want to absolutely ENJOY this magnificent specimen, go to this site I stumbled on couple of yrs ago after seeing the short video by cf1970 of Storm Cat Romping in His Paddock. Google - type in studslife Storm Cat and read the excerpt by Kevin Conley fm 2002 when he visited Overbrook Farm. You'll LOVE it !! Wonderful stuff and esp comments by the vet and farm owner re. Storm Cat ! Actually think he's not doing study duty anymore, think I read he's retired.
@TheBeautyonHorseback I disagree. He was not an aggressive horse, only in races which was more physiologically that physically He ran aggressively to win. Ye she got small corrections as he is a stud, tis what they do, Secretariat was like that too, he has perfect ground manners.
my baby is his grandson(:
Anyone know much money Storm Cat has generated during his breeding career> Wish I was part of that syndication!
I own one of his son's! Why is this guy constantly yanking on his face?!?!?!
no, storm cat is my horses grandpa. henessey is my horse's sire. i have not seen pictures of my horse's dam, so I don't know how similar they look.
Yes, he is what, 23 now? You hate to think that we have to lose them... maybe he'll live as long as his Mama, I'd love to see video of her. There's a good picture of her on pedigreequery dotcom