Black Mage is fun. Just straight up fun. He is undoubtedly my favorite SSF2-exclusive character. I could go into detail, but this comment would be too long.
The reason Waluigi was likely voted is due to his "perfect" coverage. His dice covers low recoveries... while his spike covers high recoveries and forces them low and onto ledge setting up for punishments or... if Waluigi is off stage due to his recovery you'll try to come in low. The enemy is above you. Yeah. This is some great coverage and makes guarding with and against him devastating and able to take stocks.
I'll be honest, I don't see Falco being the best character in the game. He's very good, yes, but imo, Meta Knight does better against more of the cast in general than Falco. Both characters can win off of a few openings, but Meta Knight gets more opportunities to search for and get that opening simply because he dies a lot less than Falco on average. His recovery is much better, he has more range because of his disjointed sword, and he can kill earlier than Falco because of how deep he can go to confirm a kill. In short, I think Falco is very strong, but Meta Knight gets to play his game more often and is therefore better, in my opinion.
Before the most recent update I got bodied by this player who was really good and at first chose Falco (although they keep recking me with other characters) but Falco was basically almost impossible to get a stock off for me so in my experience Falco is better (although that may be is that I never really encountered really good meta knight players).
Honestly Dee is my second favorite charter to play. The rush down combos are second to none and you can pretty much have the enemy where ever you want them if youre positioning is correct. He is mad fun to play at a higher level
When a character like DK manages to get good wins in major tournaments, it's safe to say that this game is fine in the balance department. With that said, I'd say it's a toss up between Sheik, Meta Knight, or Falco.
Yeah I definitely think this game has the biggest range of characters who can succeed at top level, so even though the balancing isnt perfect I think its a lot better then most offical smash games.
when thinking of a "best character" there isn't a specific one that pops up in everyones' mind like other smash games which really show off how balanced this game is props to the ssf2 team , great job
@@skyminoffline honestly I think you are 101% wrong here ssf2 doesn't have 1- a character that breaks the meta so much that not picking them up means loosing 2- unusable characters (overpowered by every other character and picking them up against someone who is not a 3year old means loosing) *cough* brawl meta knight *COUGH* melee bowser
@@stefanocannizzaro632 I've played 1 year of offline ssf2 cuz I didn't know how to make an account :v, chibi-robo cpu's spam side b too much it's very easy to punish, also learned how to 3 stock dk difficulty 10 but haha who asked, wonder if anyone is gonna read this :p.
I wish Black Mage was higher tier, I love playing him so much but he's just not that amazing. Then again, it's been a while since I played so maybe he got better?
So ive been playing around with Marth for a bit and I can safely say hes busted. His combo game is on point, his air game is good and his down air is busted to an ultimate level. His f smash also hits below ledge and almost all of his moves combo into forward air
I think link is, though maybe not the best, definitely up there. He has great combo potential with his projectiles, which can be very versatile. He is pretty fast, and has solid weight. He doesn’t have the best recovery, but link is someone you play on the stage and like I mentioned, he’s up there in terms of weight, so you won’t really be knocked off too much.
This is the game that got me into ahs and Im so happy with it's roster and play, it's like brawl but it feels like they balanced around the lack of wavedashing and wavelanding by making everyone faster and having quicker moves
0.7 ichigo might have had the best projectile in all of ssf2 history, though if he was in beta he'd probably be low tier with how drastically the meta has changed while I was disappointed in how it was completely repurposed in 0.9a-onwards it may have been for the best
God, I remember how busted Ichigo used to be, I remember maining him back then and all of my friends were super salty because I wouldn't stop spamming his projectile, it was just so broken. I do kinda think they nerfed it a tad too much but at least it's more balanced now, back then Ichigo was unplayable with how busted he was.
My tier list (Based on combo game): 5) Captain Falcon Is fast, good mixups, but can get punished easily 4) Sheik Good Aerials and recovery, but small hitboxes for most attacks 3) Luffy Great combo potential, can spike easily, but recovery can be punished easily 2) Luigi Combo and damage output is crazy if you know how to use him, but recovery is bad without double jump and small hitboxes for some attacks 1) Sora Great combos, great recovery, side-b allows for great mix-ups and sometimes even recovery, great damage output, smash attacks are great, but small hitboxes for up smash and side-b can be punished very easily (If you couldn't tell I'm a Sora main 🙂🙃
Honestly, Waluigi is my absolute main in SSF2 I suck with him? Yes, because this game is completely slow on my laptop. Even at low resolutions. This makes it really hard to actually hit something properly. I LOVE Waluigi tho. He is my favorite character ever, and i think his moves and recovery can be pretty balanced, of course there's the RGN mixed there, but hey, that's what Waluigi is! You can't really predict him. It's a nice touch.
my mains are sheik, black mage, meta knight, zero suit samus, samus, ness, naruto, lloyd and tails, you already tried meta knight out, i'd liek you to try the other ones out, they got very amazing attacks that if you use them well or even do a combo you can DESTROY your enemy
Meta Knight has been my main for a long time and I just started playing the game yesterday for the first time in a couple years, wanted to make sure that Meta Knight was still meta, glad he is since he's fun to play Edit: Forgot to mention that I love using Ness, Shiek, Lloyd and Captain Falco, I'm not sure if they're good but they are fun for me to play
dude Sora is BROKEN... he has stupid combos with down air chains into down special, he has really good aerials that all combo into each other, he has sooooooo many kill confirms, he also has a good recovery that can even be stalled with his down special, and so many other good points. I think he is the best definitely.
Give him the Upper Caliber and Galactic Counter from Star Allies, and Meta Knight in SSF2 will become as good as...Meta Knight. Too bad he isn't meta in Kirby Fighters 2, which is meta because his team attacks with King Dedede are pretty meta not gonna lie.
In MY opinion it's hard to choose between Waluigi and Ichigo, to be honest I have completed classic mode on hard with Ichigo but that doesn't change anything...
I'mma just put out my opinion for that character in the meta. But as it stands the number one best character contenders are these... Sheik, Meta Knight, Falco, Krystal
I think part of Meta Knight being considered so good is not just because he is good, is because most people don't have experience against solid MK gameplay, since the only good MK is zair, the rest is ass.
SSF2 competitive is doing pretty good right, some big tournaments thanks to mew2kings help. Honestly though, if you like PM and melee, definitely be on the lookout for fraymakers. Platform fighter by the creators of ssf2, with melee like mechanics
I think pikachu might be the best character His neutral special is good His combo game is pretty good His recovery is hard to gimp He can deal lots of damage His edge guards are good And he’s small
@@estebangamer636yt2 I think you completely missed the point of my comment. I don't think he's very good. It's just that I don't know how and can't be bothered to learn to play the others.
In my opinion I think Black Mage is the best character because they have good frame but but they has a lackluster but this is made up for their versatile toolkit
(In my opinion) My favorite is Waluigi. But theres a little problem. There is no King DEDEDE, and it was replaced by a dam Wattle De. Why did they not put King DEDEDE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
I’m a naruto main so everybody else automatically sucks cuz I have to deal with them everyday and I just want to believe that naruto can make it to top rank one day
imo naruto, pikachu, link, bowser and wario are rlly OP... and characters like pichu, random, sonic and sheik are just rlly annoying when they come in the opposing team
Bowler: Meta is Meta.
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Seinfeld
@@ThePikaPlayer thank you for correcting them
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I don’t think he’s broken, but I want some Black Mage love.
he's so sick to play
Same.
9b Mage tho? Sheeeeeeeesh forget about it
Not my fav but he’s cool
Black Mage is fun. Just straight up fun. He is undoubtedly my favorite SSF2-exclusive character. I could go into detail, but this comment would be too long.
The strongest character is my online service
In my case its my crappy laptop
the strongest character is pre-patch Kirby Bair
His side b too
1.2 played him dirty.
The reason Waluigi was likely voted is due to his "perfect" coverage. His dice covers low recoveries... while his spike covers high recoveries and forces them low and onto ledge setting up for punishments or... if Waluigi is off stage due to his recovery you'll try to come in low. The enemy is above you. Yeah.
This is some great coverage and makes guarding with and against him devastating and able to take stocks.
Haven’t watched the video yet, but obviously it’s random
I was gonna say the same thing, since my last comment was almost Similar to my stand on who is the weakest and who’s strongest
Random is the most balanced character
Ah yes, my forever main.
Random
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Fkin 0p
Waluigi on the thumbnail will make me click
Edit: Ok nice to see he is 5th voted
I'll be honest, I don't see Falco being the best character in the game. He's very good, yes, but imo, Meta Knight does better against more of the cast in general than Falco. Both characters can win off of a few openings, but Meta Knight gets more opportunities to search for and get that opening simply because he dies a lot less than Falco on average. His recovery is much better, he has more range because of his disjointed sword, and he can kill earlier than Falco because of how deep he can go to confirm a kill.
In short, I think Falco is very strong, but Meta Knight gets to play his game more often and is therefore better, in my opinion.
That is true.
All I can say is lol since Meta Knight got nerfed in one of the few next patches after this comment
@@_shadiness yea that was funny as hell
Before the most recent update I got bodied by this player who was really good and at first chose Falco (although they keep recking me with other characters) but Falco was basically almost impossible to get a stock off for me so in my experience Falco is better (although that may be is that I never really encountered really good meta knight players).
Imagine if mcleoadgaming and sakurai collaborated to make waluigi
Everyone knows my boy Bandana Dee is the best fighter
Xd
Honestly Dee is my second favorite charter to play. The rush down combos are second to none and you can pretty much have the enemy where ever you want them if youre positioning is correct. He is mad fun to play at a higher level
Yes
Before video: I'm calling either Falco or Zelda
After video: yep called it
this video: who is the strongest character?
me: everyone except the ones in the previous video and Ryu
When a character like DK manages to get good wins in major tournaments, it's safe to say that this game is fine in the balance department. With that said, I'd say it's a toss up between Sheik, Meta Knight, or Falco.
Yeah I definitely think this game has the biggest range of characters who can succeed at top level, so even though the balancing isnt perfect I think its a lot better then most offical smash games.
@THE SHiNGAMi Prolific is that you? Big fan btw
@@BowlerSSF2 i main ganon but aleast he ain't super bad
when thinking of a "best character" there isn't a specific one that pops up in everyones' mind like other smash games which really show off how balanced this game is props to the ssf2 team , great job
It isn't that balanced, but it's okay
@@mandalorianhunter1 I think it is , shut up nerd
its more balanced than 64 but tbh i think thats as far as it goes
@@skyminoffline honestly I think you are 101% wrong here
ssf2 doesn't have
1- a character that breaks the meta so much that not picking them up means loosing
2- unusable characters (overpowered by every other character and picking them up against someone who is not a 3year old means loosing)
*cough* brawl meta knight
*COUGH* melee bowser
@@amgdeg4897 its alright i guess
Could you do top ten most annoying CPUs to fight against in smash flash
and here you see for sure lucario and chibi-robo
@@stefanocannizzaro632 I've played 1 year of offline ssf2 cuz I didn't know how to make an account :v, chibi-robo cpu's spam side b too much it's very easy to punish, also learned how to 3 stock dk difficulty 10 but haha who asked, wonder if anyone is gonna read this :p.
Wario for me, because the CPU keeps spamming Side B and the hitbox of the attack is crazy. It feels so satisfying beating him.
Jigglypuff. This CPU will literally edgeguard offstage just to get a kill. She's also supa aggresive.
@@EzioAuditoredelalala if your still having trouble with wario try finding a secondary swords character they usually have a good match up against him
I wish Black Mage was higher tier, I love playing him so much but he's just not that amazing. Then again, it's been a while since I played so maybe he got better?
He is high tier lol
Naw black mage is annoying as hell, defo a high tier character
As a Falco main in this game. I agree with this list. He is a mix between melee and brawl Falco which is op
Ichigo is extremely good in everything he's in. He's amazing in SSF2. He's extremely broken in Jump Force. why is he so good in everything
Top tier in JUS as well.
Big sword = good character
He's Cloud Strife but ssf2 version
Can't argue with the strawberry
So ive been playing around with Marth for a bit and I can safely say hes busted. His combo game is on point, his air game is good and his down air is busted to an ultimate level. His f smash also hits below ledge and almost all of his moves combo into forward air
I suggest you do a "Who is The Cheesiest Character in SSF2?" next time.
Idea: what is the most underrated character
naruto
I think link is, though maybe not the best, definitely up there. He has great combo potential with his projectiles, which can be very versatile. He is pretty fast, and has solid weight. He doesn’t have the best recovery, but link is someone you play on the stage and like I mentioned, he’s up there in terms of weight, so you won’t really be knocked off too much.
Well we'll see if he stays that way next update when he gets Ult dash attack
@@crazynaut223 ?
It was confirmed here
twitter.com/SmashFlashDevs/status/1363069338287296512?s=20
@@crazynaut223 Cool, that looks interesting. He’s honestly my main, I wonder how that will affect his gameplay. 🤔
Now who's the medium character in ssf2
Megaman
Pit
@@funfoxvlad7309 nah, pit is just bad
Rayman
Much appreciation for Rivals background ost 👌
What’s that outro music? It’s kinda heat
It’s an original lofi style remix by FrameZeta on Twitter
This is the game that got me into ahs and Im so happy with it's roster and play, it's like brawl but it feels like they balanced around the lack of wavedashing and wavelanding by making everyone faster and having quicker moves
I was hoping Rayman would be here. At least this game has him sigh.
if it was pre patch rayman,he'd win easily
@@esrever6948 yeah. Thw nerf to his down air and plum really hurt him
@@villardemile1602
kinda salty they nerfed his down air,now it doesn't make the satisfying sound of multiple spikes connecting :(
@@villardemile1602 wait, they fixed the infinet recovery?
Surprised Black Mage Wasn’t voted...oh wait wasn’t he nerfed in SSF2 never-mind
me, a Naruto main:
**dattebayo noises**
Wow, I was Waluigi, the one whose name was Felipe D, that I was xd
todo un capo xd
I know how bowler feels because meta knight is so frustrating to fight
This confirms us that Meta Knight will Meta kick your Meta ass in less than 5 Meta seconds
0.7 ichigo might have had the best projectile in all of ssf2 history, though if he was in beta he'd probably be low tier with how drastically the meta has changed
while I was disappointed in how it was completely repurposed in 0.9a-onwards it may have been for the best
God, I remember how busted Ichigo used to be, I remember maining him back then and all of my friends were super salty because I wouldn't stop spamming his projectile, it was just so broken. I do kinda think they nerfed it a tad too much but at least it's more balanced now, back then Ichigo was unplayable with how busted he was.
First Brawl, then Project M and now SSF2? Why is it that Meta Knight is consistently top tier in all the games that have Brawl's artstyle?
The ichigo haters know the Pac-Man stage with hazards on down special spike all too well
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Pain
My tier list (Based on combo game):
5) Captain Falcon
Is fast, good mixups, but can get punished easily
4) Sheik
Good Aerials and recovery, but small hitboxes for most attacks
3) Luffy
Great combo potential, can spike easily, but recovery can be punished easily
2) Luigi
Combo and damage output is crazy if you know how to use him, but recovery is bad without double jump and small hitboxes for some attacks
1) Sora
Great combos, great recovery, side-b allows for great mix-ups and sometimes even recovery, great damage output, smash attacks are great, but small hitboxes for up smash and side-b can be punished very easily
(If you couldn't tell I'm a Sora main 🙂🙃
Honestly, Waluigi is my absolute main in SSF2
I suck with him?
Yes, because this game is completely slow on my laptop. Even at low resolutions. This makes it really hard to actually hit something properly. I LOVE Waluigi tho. He is my favorite character ever, and i think his moves and recovery can be pretty balanced, of course there's the RGN mixed there, but hey, that's what Waluigi is! You can't really predict him. It's a nice touch.
4:07 not my proudest moment
Ichigo is my favorite character in ssf2
Did Zelda get nerfed? I could've sworn a lot of people saw her as top tier last I played.
Holy shit I'm in the video, mom get the camera!
ok
Still believing Sora and Ganondorf are pretty much matched.
The thing is Meta Knight and Falco are my mains so maybe i should try SSF2
i main ganon but at least he is fun
my mains are sheik, black mage, meta knight, zero suit samus, samus, ness, naruto, lloyd and tails, you already tried meta knight out, i'd liek you to try the other ones out, they got very amazing attacks that if you use them well or even do a combo you can DESTROY your enemy
Meta Knight has been my main for a long time and I just started playing the game yesterday for the first time in a couple years, wanted to make sure that Meta Knight was still meta, glad he is since he's fun to play
Edit: Forgot to mention that I love using Ness, Shiek, Lloyd and Captain Falco, I'm not sure if they're good but they are fun for me to play
thanks for the video
Out of the five, the best is Ichigo to me
Top 3 are Meta Knight, Falco, and Sheik.
Probably a hot take, but my 4 and 5 are Peach and Marth.
nah i agree
ganondorf underated
BOWLER UR VIDS ARE RLlY COOL
Aye I main Falco in ultimate so this is great to hear
dude Sora is BROKEN... he has stupid combos with down air chains into down special, he has really good aerials that all combo into each other, he has sooooooo many kill confirms, he also has a good recovery that can even be stalled with his down special, and so many other good points. I think he is the best definitely.
As a meta knight main in Smash bros, I guess I’ll give smash flash a try 👀
can some pls tell me how i can play the game i used to play it now i cant find the website
Give him the Upper Caliber and Galactic Counter from Star Allies, and Meta Knight in SSF2 will become as good as...Meta Knight. Too bad he isn't meta in Kirby Fighters 2, which is meta because his team attacks with King Dedede are pretty meta not gonna lie.
I miss the ranked anthers ladder vids for sure. You should do a character series for them bowler.
Also I hope wolf gets in this game sometime.
The only issue is that anther's is dead
@@ThePikaPlayer sadly, it is.
I personally was expecting to see narth, falcon and ganon on this list 😂
Hell yeah ive been playing Falco since Beta relased
Commenting to support the algorithm.
He's called Meta Knight for a reason
In MY opinion it's hard to choose between Waluigi and Ichigo, to be honest I have completed classic mode on hard with Ichigo but that doesn't change anything...
I’m a speed runner for classic so I’m kinda bias to think that captain falcon and donkey Kong should be up here
Nice vid
I'mma just put out my opinion for that character in the meta.
But as it stands the number one best character contenders are these...
Sheik, Meta Knight, Falco, Krystal
How do you play the game i think that adobe can't be used?
im shocked that falcon isn't in this list
man the mrg&w is the best character of ssf2 bc the combos of it its so good
like down grab and hold down attack
Remember when there was only 13 accidental MK mains out there ever, good times
I haven't played ssf2 in a long time so in kinda surprised by Bandana dee not being voted at.
Bowler why didn't you put 64 Pikachu at the beginning?
the thing that surprised me was the order of the chars, not the chars themselves
i personally don't find falco broken, i just wanted rayman to be on this list cause of the epic combos he does with his plum
I recently got really good with Bandana Dee, so in my honest opinion, I'd have to say, with a lot of practice, He is Viable.
I think part of Meta Knight being considered so good is not just because he is good, is because most people don't have experience against solid MK gameplay, since the only good MK is zair, the rest is ass.
F for Jmac
@@hypermania7951 I mean- well Jmac too
Dose the dev team do character requests? Cuz I would really like to see knuckles from project plus in my favorite smash -smash flash.
They don't do character requests
Probably Peach, Waluigi or Sheik
I think Sora can get shenanigans similar to Meta Knight, but he has a much worse recovery
top 3 imo are sheik falco and mk
Thats cool and all that Waluigi is voted to be top 5 but we all know the UPS Man is undeniably the best character in the game
4:42 you legit used alpha’s video lol
My top 5:
Sheik
Falco
Krystal
Lloyd/MK
Marth
Next we need the most mid tier characters
I was hoping for my fire emblem guy and Sora to be on the list
Is ssf2 worth getting into even now? I play melee mainly and wish pm was bigger
SSF2 competitive is doing pretty good right, some big tournaments thanks to mew2kings help. Honestly though, if you like PM and melee, definitely be on the lookout for fraymakers. Platform fighter by the creators of ssf2, with melee like mechanics
Obviusly the best character is pre-patch Lucario's neutral B
0:46 "The weakest character is my online service."
Hahahahahaahahahahaha
Obviously, the strongest character is Kaioken Goku from 9.b, especially on stages like metal gear island.
Aye yo why did you do black mage like that
I think pikachu might be the best character
His neutral special is good
His combo game is pretty good
His recovery is hard to gimp
He can deal lots of damage
His edge guards are good
And he’s small
For me it's Mega Man because he's the only character I kinda know how to play.
I don't think he's broken. He's combo food and he has a very exploitable recovery.
@@estebangamer636yt2 I think you completely missed the point of my comment. I don't think he's very good. It's just that I don't know how and can't be bothered to learn to play the others.
@@jasan9973 are you saying that mega man is your personal best character? If so, who asked?
@@arandomperson6293 Bowler himself at 7:50
they really forgot my link..
ssf2 doesnt work anymore how do i get it
Download the game
tbh falco is my best character due to his speed
Puffy pretty good he’s got a 40% combo
personally goku is my favourite character strong combo's very punishing good at countering and you can even become more aggresive with kaioken
In my opinion I think Black Mage is the best character because they have good frame but but they has a lackluster but this is made up for their versatile toolkit
Next video: Who is the best meh character in ssf2
(In my opinion) My favorite is Waluigi.
But theres a little problem.
There is no King DEDEDE, and it was replaced by a dam Wattle De. Why did they not put King DEDEDE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
I’m a naruto main so everybody else automatically sucks cuz I have to deal with them everyday and I just want to believe that naruto can make it to top rank one day
imo naruto, pikachu, link, bowser and wario are rlly OP... and characters like pichu, random, sonic and sheik are just rlly annoying when they come in the opposing team
Is the super smash website work. Now I miss playing super smash
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