Scott… thanks for the shout out. You did a most excellent job of covering the setup and basic operation of the Duplicator. I just wanted to add…. There are a few fine points that experience has taught me: For instance… There are times when you need to rotate the tool from perpendicular to the axis. Like, when your follower and bit are too wide to fit to the bottom of a flat or cove. Another is when doing the last fine cut, you can often make cleaner coves if you rotate the rear of the cutter off the part axis and keep it perpendicular with the surface of the radius you are cutting. I find that I sometimes get a cleaner Final Cut if I reverse direction and follow the downhill curve of my template… And there are so many more… but they come with experience and are shaped by personal preference. But, one thing for sure… the tool is fun to use, easier to learn and much safer than an array of handheld chisels I hope to have a video out this week that shows a few of these tidbits.
Scott, your knowledge & detailed explanations are the best. I'm new to woodworking; picked up a 1973 Mark 5 table saw, band saw, jointer, lathe tools & belt sander. Been watching your channel for months to prepare for when I have space to work which just got to the point of being useable. Can't wait to move in & get the SS set up & start building all the shop organizers, storage, etc., ideas that I've been sketching the past few years. Then onto the fun projects. Thanks for all you do!
Excellent video, Scott. I have used the duplicator on numerous occasions and still learned a few things from watching this video. It came in really handy for turning handles for measuring spoon & measuring cup kits from Penn State Industries. These made great Christmas presents for the cooks in my family. I purchased the Shopsmith instructional DVD when I first purchased my used duplicator and would highly recommend that to anyone just starting out. P.S. You mentioned a few great tips that were not on the SS video. I always learn from watching your channel. Thanks
Thank you for some excellent tips on using the duplicator. This how-to video should be a must watch for anyone starting to use, or in my case, long forgotten how-to use, of the Shopsmith lathe duplicator.
I do not have a Shopsmith but your video makes me think about making a duplicator jig for my Nova DVR lathe. Very interesting. I can understand Shopsmith using Unistrut at that time since readily available and inexpensive. Today a lot of aluminium track extrusions are available. You could get a replacement from Rockler, Woodcraft etc. I love the new type of turning tool "Spindle rusty gouge". LOL Dave.
Great video with a lot of valuable information. I will definitely be rewatching this video next time I use my duplicator! I just finished free hand turning some Christmas tree shaped ornaments from some Woodsmith patterns. Right now I am free hand turning a few snowman ornaments to try and come up with a design I like. If I go into production I will definitely be using my duplicator. Two days ago I received the face shield that you recommended. I have got to say that I am really pleased with it. Thanks again for all of the information you provide!
Glad to hear you like the face shield. I was wanting to use it myself last night, but I can't locate it! I can't believe how long it is taking for me to get settled into my new shop space.
When I was younger, due to job changes, I moved about every 5 years. I used to be able to fit everything I owned in the back of small pickup. I have been in the same house now for 14 years. I couldn't imagine moving now!
I liked seeing this device in operation. I can see using the cutter and table freehand for any turning. My first big Shopsmith project was building a stair rail at my old house. I didn't know about the duplicator but turning 50 balusters was out of the question even if I had it so I went with rectangular posts. If I did have a duplicator and eventually turned some piece worth looking at it would be nice to be able to duplicate it with this system. Just using the cutter for freehand work looks very useful by itself, even creating a template for a first piece like the candlestick you made. If I see a used one listed I'll be interested.
Hi Scott I have a duplicator and I really enjoyed your hands on videos. They help me understand operations a lot better. I was wondering if you could show or explain the differences between the Lathe Steady Rest and the Lathe Duplicator Steady Rest? ~ Dale Overmeyer
Nice video. Following your "spending quality time with your tools" approach, I used my 30+ year old duplicator for the first time in 29 years before Christmas. It seems alignment is the key, aligning cutter to follower, table to drive spur and live center (mine was not aligned, so shimmed table, instead of lowering live center by removed stop collar as instructions said, as still wanted alignment for normal lathe usage.) Also need to align center line of template holder brackets to drive spur and live center, using cutter/follower and top bracket points (then you could remove them), but you did not show that and that seems to be why you got a small turning. Also, I have the same t-nuts on the guard, so that is the way it came. That seemed odd to me also, thought there might be a purpose for them that was not obvious.
Hey Scott another greatvideo. I’ve set up my duplicater but never used it. My question is would you use this cutter without the duplicater to turn bowls?
Hi Scott, excellent video. I have the duplicator and looking forward to setting it up for an upcoming project I have in mind. I have never used it so your description on setup is very useful. A short time ago I made four similar walnut plates for my daughter. I made them using a 10 inch contour gauge to reference the shape. Worked, but very time consuming. Will you be demonstrating the faceplate option on the duplicator? Thanks again for the very informative videos.
Technically the cutting edge can be below center, it sort of replicates a negative rake scraper. 😉 You just can't be above center. I'd be curious to see if there is a negative rake scraper tip out there that would work with this.
I know you keep requesting 'cheap shots' but I have to apologize. In all the time I've been watching, I haven't seen anything deserving of a cheap shot. At the worst, I might be able to work up something about how us 10ER folks feel a little bit ignored but it's not worth the effort. I'll just continue to enjoy what you present then figure out how to apply that to my antique.
Great video, I’ve never seen any better information about the Shopsmith duplicator.
Thanks!
Yet another fine instructional video with excellent attention to detail! Keep 'em coming. Blessings, Glen
Thanks, Glen!
Scott… thanks for the shout out.
You did a most excellent job of covering the setup and basic operation of the Duplicator.
I just wanted to add…. There are a few fine points that experience has taught me:
For instance… There are times when you need to rotate the tool from perpendicular to the axis. Like, when your follower and bit are too wide to fit to the bottom of a flat or cove.
Another is when doing the last fine cut, you can often make cleaner coves if you rotate the rear of the cutter off the part axis and keep it perpendicular with the surface of the radius you are cutting.
I find that I sometimes get a cleaner Final Cut if I reverse direction and follow the downhill curve of my template…
And there are so many more… but they come with experience and are shaped by personal preference.
But, one thing for sure… the tool is fun to use, easier to learn and much safer than an array of handheld chisels
I hope to have a video out this week that shows a few of these tidbits.
Awesome, I look forward to hearing your insights.
Scott, your knowledge & detailed explanations are the best. I'm new to woodworking; picked up a 1973 Mark 5 table saw, band saw, jointer, lathe tools & belt sander. Been watching your channel for months to prepare for when I have space to work which just got to the point of being useable. Can't wait to move in & get the SS set up & start building all the shop organizers, storage, etc., ideas that I've been sketching the past few years. Then onto the fun projects. Thanks for all you do!
I’ve been in that same boat and waiting for shop time is frustrating.
Excellent video, Scott. I have used the duplicator on numerous occasions and still learned a few things from watching this video. It came in really handy for turning handles for measuring spoon & measuring cup kits from Penn State Industries. These made great Christmas presents for the cooks in my family. I purchased the Shopsmith instructional DVD when I first purchased my used duplicator and would highly recommend that to anyone just starting out. P.S. You mentioned a few great tips that were not on the SS video. I always learn from watching your channel. Thanks
Glad to hear it.
Great demo,Scott. I could have used that a few years ago. A friend asked me to make a spindle for an antique spinning wheel he was restoring.
Wow. How many did you turn?
@MyGrowthRings just the one, but it took me three tries!
@@nerknerk8834 Sometimes that's what it takes.
Awesome demo! AND you even mentioned vega!
Yes, I did.
Thank you for some excellent tips on using the duplicator. This how-to video should be a must watch for anyone starting to use, or in my case, long forgotten how-to use, of the Shopsmith lathe duplicator.
Thank you, Bob.
Like all your other videos, very informative and well done.
Thanks, Don.
I do not have a Shopsmith but your video makes me think about making a duplicator jig for my Nova DVR lathe. Very interesting.
I can understand Shopsmith using Unistrut at that time since readily available and inexpensive. Today a lot of aluminium track extrusions are available. You could get a replacement from Rockler, Woodcraft etc.
I love the new type of turning tool "Spindle rusty gouge". LOL
Dave.
Oh yes, that gouge has lived a rough life!
Great video with a lot of valuable information. I will definitely be rewatching this video next time I use my duplicator! I just finished free hand turning some Christmas tree shaped ornaments from some Woodsmith patterns. Right now I am free hand turning a few snowman ornaments to try and come up with a design I like. If I go into production I will definitely be using my duplicator. Two days ago I received the face shield that you recommended. I have got to say that I am really pleased with it. Thanks again for all of the information you provide!
Glad to hear you like the face shield. I was wanting to use it myself last night, but I can't locate it! I can't believe how long it is taking for me to get settled into my new shop space.
When I was younger, due to job changes, I moved about every 5 years. I used to be able to fit everything I owned in the back of small pickup. I have been in the same house now for 14 years. I couldn't imagine moving now!
@@stased7343 Beng an Air Force brat I'm still kinda used to throwing all my belongings into boxes every few years!
Thanks so much Scott
My pleasure.
I liked seeing this device in operation. I can see using the cutter and table freehand for any turning. My first big Shopsmith project was building a stair rail at my old house. I didn't know about the duplicator but turning 50 balusters was out of the question even if I had it so I went with rectangular posts. If I did have a duplicator and eventually turned some piece worth looking at it would be nice to be able to duplicate it with this system.
Just using the cutter for freehand work looks very useful by itself, even creating a template for a first piece like the candlestick you made. If I see a used one listed I'll be interested.
I is handy, and once it's all set-up and properly aligned it lifts on and off in about three minutes.
That is an awesome piece of equipment. Thanks for sharing with us. Keep up the great work. 👽
Thanks for the kind words.
Great video. Thank you.
Thanks for watching and commenting, Mark.
Hi Scott
I have a duplicator and I really enjoyed your hands on videos. They help me understand operations a lot better. I was wondering if you could show or explain the differences between the Lathe Steady Rest and the Lathe Duplicator Steady Rest?
~ Dale Overmeyer
Glad to help. It looks like I have some of the components of the duplicator steady rest, so let me see if I can address that.
Nice video. Following your "spending quality time with your tools" approach, I used my 30+ year old duplicator for the first time in 29 years before Christmas. It seems alignment is the key, aligning cutter to follower, table to drive spur and live center (mine was not aligned, so shimmed table, instead of lowering live center by removed stop collar as instructions said, as still wanted alignment for normal lathe usage.) Also need to align center line of template holder brackets to drive spur and live center, using cutter/follower and top bracket points (then you could remove them), but you did not show that and that seems to be why you got a small turning. Also, I have the same t-nuts on the guard, so that is the way it came. That seemed odd to me also, thought there might be a purpose for them that was not obvious.
I did align the center line, but that part of the video was dragging on and on so I cut it from the video.
@@MyGrowthRings Cool, so what went wrong, making a miniature and not a duplicate? The bad slot in the cutter shaft?
@@GoodOldDave1 I haven't measured the template or the part yet, so I'm not sure how far off it is.
Hey Scott another greatvideo. I’ve set up my duplicater but never used it. My question is would you use this cutter without the duplicater to turn bowls?
Good question. I would use the round cutter inside a bowl and the round and triangle on the outside. Scott
Nice!
Thanks, Albert.
@@MyGrowthRings Now I’ve got to see if I can find all those parts, and put them in their own bin!
Scott, can you safely use the duplicator for off-set spindle turning ( such as if you wanted to turn an off-set foot on a table leg for example)?
Good question. It might be a rough ride, but sure, I’d give it a go. It would likely require two templates.
The problem with plastic containers is at least in my shop I have to remember where I put them!
That’s true. Labels and some form of organization is critical, for sure.
@@MyGrowthRings well you’ve seen my phone booth the organized stuff gets covered up by more organized stuff. 😝🤣🥴
Hi Scott, excellent video. I have the duplicator and looking forward to setting it up for an upcoming project I have in mind. I have never used it so your description on setup is very useful. A short time ago I made four similar walnut plates for my daughter. I made them using a 10 inch contour gauge to reference the shape. Worked, but very time consuming. Will you be demonstrating the faceplate option on the duplicator? Thanks again for the very informative videos.
Hey James. Yes, I plan on showing the faceplate process in the next video.
Excellent video on lathe turning duplicator. I may actually make a purchase. Do you receive a stipend if your name in mentioned?
Thanks
No, I have no financial relationship with Shopsmith. We're just friends!
Technically the cutting edge can be below center, it sort of replicates a negative rake scraper. 😉
You just can't be above center.
I'd be curious to see if there is a negative rake scraper tip out there that would work with this.
That's a good question and I'm sure there are. That would sure help with acrylics.
If you are seriously searching, I would suggest talking to Ron Campbell at AZ Carbide. He has a huge selection of carbide cutters.
I have the duplicator and all that comes with it but I’ve never used it 😮 hmmmm
@@TeamProsperity Pick a project and get on it! We are heading into gift-giving season.
I know you keep requesting 'cheap shots' but I have to apologize. In all the time I've been watching, I haven't seen anything deserving of a cheap shot. At the worst, I might be able to work up something about how us 10ER folks feel a little bit ignored but it's not worth the effort. I'll just continue to enjoy what you present then figure out how to apply that to my antique.
I have a 10ER, so one of these days I promise to drag it out. Scott