Coming from a Norris fan, I do think Piastri has more raw talent than Norris, and it won’t take him nearly as long to get a win. Though, he’s obviously being helped by McLaren having the most competitive car they’ve had in years. I’d argue Norris’ recent performances have only been stronger because he’s been in F1 for 5 seasons now. As much as it pains me to say, I don’t think it’ll take long for Piastri to overtake Norris.
You know I'm Norris' biggest fan too but I just get glimpses from Oscar that blow me away considering he has only been in the car one full season. F1 is all about being in the right place at the right time and yeah we may not be giving him as much praise if he ended up at Alpine. But still he just looks like he has everything to be an incredible driver for many years to come.
@@Tzomthekliafafanboy Yes, Oscar is really good but I would argue that Lando on his second season was almost as maybe just a bit off Piastri this season. His great job was overshadowed by how much faster Mercedes and red bull were in 2020. In Austria he showed genuine pace and throughout the whole season as well he was really good. Oscar has been given a great opportunity where other than the red bulls the field has been extremely close and he’s had a great car to show his talents
In Piastri's rookie season, he was 3 spots behind his teammate (Norris) for the season. Norris had more 4 years of F1 racing experience at this point. Norris was 5 spots behind his teammate (Sainz) in his rookie season. Sainz had more 4 years of F1 racing experience at this point. Piastri has better raw talent than Norris.
@@speedsk368 Until Miami, the McLaren was behind the Red Bulls and Ferraris. Yet again, McLaren had produced a car that was not as good as its competitors. The Miami updates turned its fortunes around. I also think Miami updates gave Piastri a car that is more aligned with his natural driving style. At Monaco, Piastri seemed to have the car dialled in by the end of FP1 because, in FP2, Piastri only went out on the mediums and hard tyres. Piastri had an additional set of softs for Q3 compared to Norris. By the end of the season, Piastri will overtake Perez and possibly Sainz in the drivers' standings.
I honestly can imagine his engineer going “THAT’S IT YOU’VE DONE IT! OSCAR PIASTRI YOU’RE THE WORLD CHAMPION, WORLD CHAMPION!!!” And him, in the calmest voice going: “Nice one boys, pretty sick ay?” The guy is so unflappable and I feel that attitude is going to really reward him as he gains more experience.
He is the perfect Aussie sportsman. Bags of talent and humble. As a Aussie who wishes Ricciardo will bounce back... I firmly believe before Oscar Retires he will be the successfull Aussie ever in F1. Raw ability and the coolness not to be bothered by the F1 B.S.. 🇦🇺
Are you saying that you reckon he’ll win at least four WDC’s, to surpass Brabham? I mean, the kid is good, really good. Might even be the generational talent that some say he is, but at this early stage and if that’s what you’re saying, I don’t see how anyone could make that call.
Other than Hamilton, Piastri for me is the young driver that I find in my head has been the most exciting for years, since when max came in. Has over preformed and my 4th favourite driver
It’s just a matter of time, and it’s only his second year. If McLaren can keep their car this good and are able to challenge wins, I reckon we could see Oscar World Champion
It’s such a shame that success in F1 has become synonymous with who can manage their tires better. What happened to the days of admiring who had the raw speed and ability to whip their car around a track the fastest, for an entire race? Pirelli tires would have destroyed or put in different light the epic battles between Prost/Senna, Alonso/Shumacher, Hunt/Lauda. And not to take away from a what Alonso is accomplishing now at his age, but part of his current ability to compete I think is due to the racing not being as intense as it used to be. It’s all about managing the tires over the race instead of the pure effort of speed, which of course means it’s is less physically demanding (in comparison to days of old).
I think the racing would be spiced up if you could run different tyre combinations on your car at any given time, like in the old days. For example, you might want to run hards on the back and softs or mediums on the front. And if each race had say, at least one or maybe two compulsory pit stops, it would throw up a multitude of different race strategy possibilities, with different teams and individual drivers on a broad range of strategies throughout a race. It would leave both commentators and spectators guessing until the end, as to who got it right and will come out on top.
They should get the 100% sustainable fuel in place, then revert to something closer to the V10 cars (including the engine), just with a bit more modern safety tech.
Just to note: Miami really hurt Oscar's points tally. That safety car and then collision with Sainz dropping him out of the points really, on top of Lando winning from said safety car, really opened up that points gap between him and Norris, as well as the other drivers around him that did well that race such as Perez, Charles an Sainz.
He is def going to get there. In Spain it was his Quali that let him down. Being stuck behind Gasly in the first stint killed the chances of him battling with the Ferraris
Good video. Especially about how the McLaren car behaves, there isn't a lot of talk about that. I believe as McLaren get their chassis and underlying issues sorted (like handling issues/quirks) and make the car more consistent, Oscar's race pace and tyre management will improve and accelerate. Especially in 2025 when the new car has been completely designed in the new wind tunnel. One thing I want to mention however is something that nobody seems to touch upon when talking about Oscar or his driving style or why he struggles with tyre management (as all rookies do). Oscar is an extreme short corner driver and is very aggressive on the brakes and throttle. He straightens his car up and stands on the throttle out of the corner as early as possible - you can see this on his onboards. He also has one of the highest minimum speeds on the grid for cornering. All things considered, his natural driving style and lines seem to have elements of Max Verstappen, Michael Schumacher, Alonso and Prost about it - kind of a mix that's reminiscent of. But he's also learning from Lando too now and he's picked up a lot from him. Lando is a lot smoother and gentler with the McLaren and typically goes into the corner with higher entry speed but is smoother on the application of the brake and throttle. Lando also has smoother and gentler lines through the corners and has a longer but slightly slower exit out of them. Lando's style and smoothness has been likened to Button's in the past. In terms of car setup and handling preferences, while Oscar and Lando are quite similar, there's still differences to be had. Lando seems to prefer a much more balanced car that caters to his aforementioned driving style. Oscar on the other hand I believe prefers a slightly pointier car that he can live with right on the ragged edge and go on maximum attack allowing him to be super aggressive with his corner speeds. You'll often see Oscar take a bit more downforce than Lando which might be for this reason.
Mark Hughes has mentioned that Oscar prefers alot more front end, in fact even compared to verstappen or shumacher in terms of ability to deal with a very pointy car.
@@henrywilliams8313 If that's true that's insane because Max likes an insanely pointy car, perhaps the pointiest on the grid, followed only by Daniel Ricciardo. I would suggest then that Oscar also likes a strong enough rear-end that allows him to get planted and accelerate as soon as possible out of a corner, because Max and Ricciardo all prefer loose rear-ends.
It’s pretty clear that the McLaren is a hard car to learn and has been for a while, which explains Piastri tyre management issues, especially on high-deg circuits. Norris has learnt to manage this over time and has been in the car for almost 5.5 years. Norris has had the opportunity to learn and manage the tyre management issues without being in the spotlight because he flew under the radar in his first two years in F1. Norris only got one podium in his first two years of F1. Piastri was up near the top of the grid in his rookie season due to his raw talent, hence the spotlight on this learning experience. Piastri tyre management will be significantly better by the end of the year due to additional race pace experience.
It’s definitely a case of learning for piastri. He has been much better on the tracks he is driving for the 2nd time this year. China wasn’t great but it was his first time at the track.
"Piastri was up near the top of the grid in his rookie season due to his raw talent" you need to add and a more competitive Mclaren which Lando in his first two years did not have. Oscar qualified on average 9,4 which on average is not near the top of the grid.is it. His average race reult was 11 th and Lando 8th. in 2023
IMO, arguably Oscar's best race in Formula 1 so far was the 2023 British GP. Unfortunately he finished 4th due to the unlucky timing of the safety car, but his race pace was genuinely less than 0.1s off Lando for the whole race, with no drop off. And it was only his first race with the huge upgrades. It was a prime example of how Oscar was immediately good enough to fight for podiums, and even wins, as long as the track is low degradation...
@@NotApplicableJB i think it could turn ugly... Lando can be a spiky character what he is annoyed and i think Oscar will also become that way and i think Mark Webber will tell him to be more aggressive and not make the same mistakes like he did with Vettel
I think there is big problem. Oscar will get more experience and he will be good as Norris. And it can end up like Rozberg and Hamilton. Big big rivality.
Once Oscar starts getting treated equally he will finish in front of Norris imo. Currently Norris is being given a cushy ride combined with the fact he got very lucky for his first race win in Miami. Oscar has been done over by his team on multiple occassions this year. Firstly, they pitted him 30 seconds before the vsc in miami when he was leading the race which massively benefitted Norris. If not for that dumb move Oscar would likely won in Miami. Instead they pitt him, he loses his position due to the vsc and then sainz takes him out of the race resulting in no points. Next he finishes on the front row at imola and his team incompetently doesnt tell him that Magnussen is behind him in qualifying and costs him another podium or possible race win. Then he finishes 2nd at monaco. Oscar should be on at least 100 points if his team doesn't continue to screw him over and favour his team mate. Oscar's talent will win out regardless of Zac manipulating Norris race results. What you also fail to mention is that Piastri is generally in dirty air and his team is directing him to push to help out his team mate meaning his tyres can go off early whereas Norris can drive exactly how he wants thus saving the tyres. Treat them equally mclaren and let's see who is the better driver. Maybe they are protecting Norris from getting shown up and losing his confidence. Other teams know what's going on at mclaren and how Oscar is being hobbled. Once he is out of contract it won't be hard for better teams to convince oscar to leave if mclaren continue to favour the inferior Norris. It's obvious Norris requested favouritism to stay. Dumb move Zak.
I think most of its really down to luck, his probably lost 35 points just from people giving him damage. He does still need to improve that tire mangment but he just needs to have people stopping smashing into him lmao. And for monaco he did have damage the whole race for like 2 or 3 tenths which means his tyre deg was also alot worse having to push extra.
You’re right, he has also been quite unlucky this season with strategy and contact. I hope he can close the gap to the top 5 and get the points he deserves
@user-uc1ny1ns2o I mean miami was atleast 19, China he was in for a top 5 but got damage atleast another 12. Then grid pentaly cost him atleast another 5 in imola
@@Ethan8181 thats really over the top. he would have finished 5th in miami without the crash with sainz, and he was running in 8th place in china anyway, he didnt lose a single position because of his damage. he was very slow before that anyway. he lost 10 points, all of them in miami, and maybe another 3 points in imola with the grid penalty
@user-uc1ny1ns2o I mean miami his pace was sold it was atleast a p3. Honestly I barely remember china lmao. It could be a over exaggeration, but I still think it was between the 10 to 20 points.
Oscar is the best newcomer in the sports at the moment and he will be a champion before the likes of Russell. He is fast and handles the car with ease and he will beat a lot of top drivers this season.
I would honestly rather see him winning for them over Lando. I’ve always liked Oscar. I like how he conducts himself. He’s always focused on what he needs to do and seems to leave his emotions outside of the car when he’s driving it. I appreciate a silent killer like that. That being said, he’s still a little behind Lando on most tracks, but I think he’ll be there with him in another year or two for sure.
I think you were spot on before May but the last 3 races he could of won all 3. Miami Lando won because of the safety car. Imola dodgy pit communications. Monaco if he got pole he would of won. By the summer break we will know if he has leapfrogged Lando. Or you right.
Lando joined the team when McLaren were still a midfield team. Piastri joined when McLaren started being good again. However, he has adapted to the car really well and is really fast. I believe that Norris is a faster driver than Oscar but Piastri is more consistent and has a more adaptable driving style. I’d love to see a title battle between these two their some of my favorite drivers.
That’s very true, but we have to remember for the first half of last season the McLaren was running at the back of the pack most races. Like Oscar’s debit was a disaster. So he has only had half a season of battles to learn from
Totally agree that Piastri is a future champion. And yes, he needs to adapt his driving to get better tire milage and get closer to Norris. But A. from day 1 Piastri has been at the same pace as Norris, B. has had to drive with damage to his car done by someone else driving into him (yes twice he was at fault) and C. he has had only 1 and a half years compared to Norris' 5 years and has scored points as consistently as he can, compared to other new drivers in the same time span, who will usually drop off before finding their feet! Someone once compared Piastri to Hamilton in his early career (again it was with McLaren) and if this is close to true, Piastri has the potential to bag 4 DWC's in his career.
As you said, F1 today is all about experience and how you can control these tyres. Pirelli being welcomed into F1 was to have a tyre that has high performance and promotes strategy, once Oscar gets his mojo in race pace he will be extremely quick. His quali pace is already up there and ahead of Lando sometimes.
I do feel like F1 is a little too dependent on tyres for entertainment at times but they do offer a real learning curve for drivers to prove their skill
@@NotApplicableJB yeah i agree on that. The problem is that the competition turns into who can manage these tyres the best, not who is the quickest overall. That’s what sprint races try to get rid of, but unfortunately some of these pirelli’s cant even handle being pushed 20 odd laps. Always having to manage is making the sport become stale. This is where i think MotoGP has hit it well with their sprint format. It’s just raw pace 100% of the 10-15 laps they race.
Lando has improved massively in race pace this year, he has probably one of the best tyre management skill on the grid I would say. However, we haven't seen the same improvement in quali, if you compare his quali sessions this year and 2021/2022, he was always putting that car in positions that it shouldn't have been at, whereas this year, he hasn't really had smooth quali sessions and I also don't think he's managed to get everything out of the car. That's the area where he needs to improve now because Oscar is already a lot closer to him in quali than he was last year, and if that car is capable of getting poles, it would be a huge advantage given the fact that the difference in race pace is apparently minimal now. He needs to step up in quali.
It's worth mentioning too that Oscar is potentially closer to Lando already than what Lando was to Carlos Sainz this time in his second season. Lando did beat him in quali H2H but Carlos wasn't considered a top driver back then either, just a good midfielder. Lando is considered a top driver now and he's considered better than Carlos, while Oscar is nearly at Prime Lando's level already and is fast approaching.
@@RockSolitudeNah, both lando and Carlos were getting the most out of a very unpredictable car back then, in fact lando adapted better than Carlos because Carlos said that he couldn't fully adapt to the car as it had weird characteristics, but lando adapted better,especially in high speed corners (Carlos said that himself), he only lacked experience in the race. If lando joined f1 now, he would also be extracting similar performances if not better than Oscar. Oscar is doing a great job but it's worth noting that mclaren also have a much better car now, if he had the 2019/20 car to drive, he wouldn't be getting so much hype around him.
@@RockSolitude Another info, Oscar also had lando's data and telemetry, and vice versa, and he said that lando's data really helped him adapt quicker to the car in his rookie season.
I think the main issue is that Lando cracks under pressure when he thinks a pole or podium is possible, or if he thinks he can beat Max. Right at the pointy end of the grid when the stakes get high and the pressure higher, he gets tunnel vision, starts to lose his nerve a bit and starts making mistakes. He becomes "desperate" and anxious (for lack of a better word) when he doesn't need to. He will improve with time and experience in this area.
@@saahil_xd I am aware that one of the key traits of Lando is his adaptability and his ability to drive on razor edge margins of the car's sweet spot, which is why he is one of the few drivers that could be fast with the McLaren. However, Carlos was also fast with the McLaren. Maybe the car was inconsistent and maybe he couldn't get the most out of it like Lando, but he still did pretty well, and again he was able to beat Lando over a season and in most races. He was more consistent. That comes a lot down to experience, as it does with Oscar and Lando now, however, again, Carlos Sainz was not rated as a top driver back then, just as a very good midfielder. It's also worth noting that just as Oscar has been helped by Lando, Lando was helped by Sainz and his data. Lando is in his prime now and is considered a better (and faster) driver than Sainz. Even if the car is better now and less unpredictable/inconsistent (though it still has the same quirks, just at less magnitude), there is still something to be said for Oscar being this close to Lando (who's at his best pace-wise) already, and how he's rapidly reaching Lando's level. If rookie Lando and rookie Oscar where to be dropped into today's car at the same time, I reckon they would be pretty much equal on straight pace, with only each driver's strengths and weaknesses, individual qualities and different driving style making the difference at different points. It also has to be said, Oscar also had a reputation for being extremely adaptable (in his junior career but even at McLaren) so I find it hard to count him out against Lando or Carlos if he was dropped into a 2019 McLaren.
Piastri is very good at single-lap pace, good at not making incident. But very bad at tires degradation. Very often during the race he looks more pace than his opponents only to struggle at the end. For me it's not more pace it's just that other are managing better. For now he does not seems to improve himself on that so for me he is still far behind Norris.
He is improving though. You can even see him improving. You have to understand that Oscar is only 30 races into his F1 career as of me writing this. Lando is 116. To put it another way, Oscar is only 18 months into F1, Lando is about 6 years. You are expecting too much too fast. F1 tyre management is something that people learn with time and experience racing in F1 with F1 Pirelli tyres. You can't learn it any other way. It has taken Lando years to get where he is now, and it can be all the more complicated with a tricky car that you need to adapt to lap-to-lap, corner-to-corner, as the McLaren is famous for.
@@RockSolitudeI'm not criticizing him, I'm just saying that for me, at this moment, he is behind Norris in terms of performance due to his tire management. He has only slightly improved this aspect in his first year, but the very last races (after my initial comment) still show some positive signs. I will be delighted to welcome his talent when he fully performs in all areas, especially tire management. But of course, I consider that he has a lot of potential, he is very good in all other aspects of racing (despite some recent mistakes, especially in qualifying).
honestly, i think this will end up being a rosberg-hamilton situation, but piastri will be the rosberg. his tyre management is pretty bad, but he will learn to manage his tyres over time. the problem is, you dont really GAIN pace over your formula 1 career. thats the thing you were born with and the thing you improved in junior series. and his pace, tyre deg excluded, is still about a tenth behind norris, on some circuits even 2-2.5. it would be a great battle between these two, but lets see where piastri’s ceiling is. dont forget norris keeps improving even after 5 years in f1! hes only one year older. really looking forward to 2026. i think thats when we’ll see a good battle between those 2.
Typically on the weekends when Oscar is up to about three tenths off of Lando in raw pace (quali pace), it’s when Lando is running an upgrade. On an absolute even playing field raw pace, they’re within about a tenth of each other and it chops and changes week to week, track to track regarding which one is faster. They’re both really good drivers, top shelf and so evenly matched when it comes down to absolute speed.
@@MechanicalSculptor this hasnt really happened this year. ironically, oscar was within 1 and a half tenths to lando in miami (qualifying) when lando did have upgrades, but in australia and japan, the gap was pretty big even though they both had the exact same car. that was more of a thing last year although still, piastri has improved, last year he had weekends where he was even 4 tenths off, like in austin and brazil.
@@jcoekwfkelsjbx Yep, you’ve made your point well and changed my mind. So, evidently Oscar is still slower than Lando rather than them being about equal, though over the long haul and with added experience I’d expect Oscar to ultimately have the edge in raw speed. This of course is anecdotal and only time will really tell, but for the time being I’ll just be enjoying their inter-team rivalry, and their exploits against the rest of the field. Cheers 🙂
@@MechanicalSculptor its tough to say. some drivers progress more than others. look at sainz for example. hes progressed so much in the last 2 years and he much older. on the other hand there are drivers that peak early. its tough to say with oscar. i think he’ll improve, but not quite enough. because norris, although hes been in f1 for 5 years, still can improve and will improve his mental side. we’ll see in 26.
Put it on the podium twice in two years, and consistently into the points. Way better than any other Renault driver of the time. He made that bonafide lower middle order car fast pretty frequently. For this reason, you might recall, nobody was criticising him at the time, the criticism only came when he put himself into a McLaren that he couldn’t get his head around.
I would say Piastri and Lawson are future champions, i just don’t see Bearman winning a championship. Lawson has good chances to replace Perez for 2026 and Piastri already has a race winning car. If Ollie goes to Haas in 2025, he will just stay there until Lewis retires. Then he will be Leclercs number two driver and if you look at what happened to Raikkonen and Sainz, Ollie will probably just get fired for some stupid reason and never win a title
Unfortunately at the moment anyone that drives the McLaren has to really think about it. Sainz, Ricciardo, Norris, O'Ward, Palou they have all said it has something weird about it
@@zonomena9153 7 times he was the best of what they offered as a field of drivers that's all, the field has grown skill lvls have improved. Grow be competitive or get out of the car
Your a typical Pom that knows fuck all about F1 you should keep your shit.videos off the internet Oscar is getting better every race your a real looser
Piastri is a great driver but his junior career , alhtough very good was not sensational. It has been hyped. He did not win any chamionship until Formula renault Eurocup and he took two years coming 8th in the 1st year. He then won F3 as a rookie but only 4 points ahead of Logan Sargeant who was third. He then won F2 as a rookie. Lando was only ever beaten by one driver George Russell in F2 and he won five other chmamponships as a rookie. I dont think your anlysis of their driving styles is supported by others. Peter Windsor says Oscar has short corners and Lando is not long corner but half way and it is Lando that has delicate and smooth inputs and Oscar is more agreesive. Oscar has now raced in 30 GP plus sprints which is the equivalent of what was two full seasons.. I am sure Oscar will win a race this year or at worst next year but that doesnt mean he is a better driver than Lando. He has the benefit of a competitive Mclaren which Lando hasnt really had until now. Yes Oscar has got to improve his tyre and race strategy . However its wrong to assume that every driver with enough laps under his belt becomes good at it. Lando and Lewsi are exceptional. Oscar will improve but will he improve enoughnot to beat Lando but do it regularly. That I think is unlikely..
Take away Miami where it wasn’t pastri’s fault he didn’t get points. The gap is only 17 points. His seat isn’t in danger because he is good, not because of his contract
Piastri will cut his teeth with McLaren increase his $ value then basically tell McLaren to make a choice. One of them has to go & I doubt Piastri or Webber his manager care much which way it goes. Money talks, bullshit walks.
Coming from a Norris fan, I do think Piastri has more raw talent than Norris, and it won’t take him nearly as long to get a win. Though, he’s obviously being helped by McLaren having the most competitive car they’ve had in years. I’d argue Norris’ recent performances have only been stronger because he’s been in F1 for 5 seasons now. As much as it pains me to say, I don’t think it’ll take long for Piastri to overtake Norris.
You know I'm Norris' biggest fan too but I just get glimpses from Oscar that blow me away considering he has only been in the car one full season. F1 is all about being in the right place at the right time and yeah we may not be giving him as much praise if he ended up at Alpine. But still he just looks like he has everything to be an incredible driver for many years to come.
He’s been really unlucky this year, he’s better than Lando
@@Tzomthekliafafanboy Yes, Oscar is really good but I would argue that Lando on his second season was almost as maybe just a bit off Piastri this season. His great job was overshadowed by how much faster Mercedes and red bull were in 2020. In Austria he showed genuine pace and throughout the whole season as well he was really good. Oscar has been given a great opportunity where other than the red bulls the field has been extremely close and he’s had a great car to show his talents
In Piastri's rookie season, he was 3 spots behind his teammate (Norris) for the season. Norris had more 4 years of F1 racing experience at this point. Norris was 5 spots behind his teammate (Sainz) in his rookie season. Sainz had more 4 years of F1 racing experience at this point. Piastri has better raw talent than Norris.
@@speedsk368 Until Miami, the McLaren was behind the Red Bulls and Ferraris. Yet again, McLaren had produced a car that was not as good as its competitors. The Miami updates turned its fortunes around. I also think Miami updates gave Piastri a car that is more aligned with his natural driving style. At Monaco, Piastri seemed to have the car dialled in by the end of FP1 because, in FP2, Piastri only went out on the mediums and hard tyres. Piastri had an additional set of softs for Q3 compared to Norris. By the end of the season, Piastri will overtake Perez and possibly Sainz in the drivers' standings.
I honestly can imagine his engineer going “THAT’S IT YOU’VE DONE IT! OSCAR PIASTRI YOU’RE THE WORLD CHAMPION, WORLD CHAMPION!!!”
And him, in the calmest voice going: “Nice one boys, pretty sick ay?”
The guy is so unflappable and I feel that attitude is going to really reward him as he gains more experience.
He is the perfect Aussie sportsman. Bags of talent and humble. As a Aussie who wishes Ricciardo will bounce back... I firmly believe before Oscar Retires he will be the successfull Aussie ever in F1. Raw ability and the coolness not to be bothered by the F1 B.S.. 🇦🇺
That’s some undertaking, we’ve seen a lot of great drivers from Australia but he definitely has the potential to be the best
Are you saying that you reckon he’ll win at least four WDC’s, to surpass Brabham? I mean, the kid is good, really good. Might even be the generational talent that some say he is, but at this early stage and if that’s what you’re saying, I don’t see how anyone could make that call.
@@MechanicalSculptor Yes 😁🏆🏆🏆🏆🇦🇺
Other than Hamilton, Piastri for me is the young driver that I find in my head has been the most exciting for years, since when max came in. Has over preformed and my 4th favourite driver
Who is your top 3?
It’s just a matter of time, and it’s only his second year. If McLaren can keep their car this good and are able to challenge wins, I reckon we could see Oscar World Champion
I really hope he gets a shot at a championship with McLaren in the next few years
He’s winning it next year
Can you make more piastri glazing content it makes me happy thanks
Love your honesty 😂 (I’m an Oscar fan too)
@@soukainawakazi2955 he is the best driver
It’s such a shame that success in F1 has become synonymous with who can manage their tires better. What happened to the days of admiring who had the raw speed and ability to whip their car around a track the fastest, for an entire race? Pirelli tires would have destroyed or put in different light the epic battles between Prost/Senna, Alonso/Shumacher, Hunt/Lauda. And not to take away from a what Alonso is accomplishing now at his age, but part of his current ability to compete I think is due to the racing not being as intense as it used to be. It’s all about managing the tires over the race instead of the pure effort of speed, which of course means it’s is less physically demanding (in comparison to days of old).
Yeah, in Abu Dhabi 2010 the hard tires lasted an entire race, now Pirelli made tires that degrade faster
I think the racing would be spiced up if you could run different tyre combinations on your car at any given time, like in the old days. For example, you might want to run hards on the back and softs or mediums on the front. And if each race had say, at least one or maybe two compulsory pit stops, it would throw up a multitude of different race strategy possibilities, with different teams and individual drivers on a broad range of strategies throughout a race. It would leave both commentators and spectators guessing until the end, as to who got it right and will come out on top.
They should get the 100% sustainable fuel in place, then revert to something closer to the V10 cars (including the engine), just with a bit more modern safety tech.
Just to note: Miami really hurt Oscar's points tally. That safety car and then collision with Sainz dropping him out of the points really, on top of Lando winning from said safety car, really opened up that points gap between him and Norris, as well as the other drivers around him that did well that race such as Perez, Charles an Sainz.
Coming from Spain gp. Oscar tyre degradation improve massively. He literally closes the gap between 15s to 2s in 10 laps .
He is def going to get there. In Spain it was his Quali that let him down. Being stuck behind Gasly in the first stint killed the chances of him battling with the Ferraris
Great video fr I think Oscar’s progress is pretty good
I think so too. I've just started to hear a few murmurs from fans because he isn't that close to the top 5 in the points
Good video. Especially about how the McLaren car behaves, there isn't a lot of talk about that. I believe as McLaren get their chassis and underlying issues sorted (like handling issues/quirks) and make the car more consistent, Oscar's race pace and tyre management will improve and accelerate. Especially in 2025 when the new car has been completely designed in the new wind tunnel.
One thing I want to mention however is something that nobody seems to touch upon when talking about Oscar or his driving style or why he struggles with tyre management (as all rookies do). Oscar is an extreme short corner driver and is very aggressive on the brakes and throttle. He straightens his car up and stands on the throttle out of the corner as early as possible - you can see this on his onboards. He also has one of the highest minimum speeds on the grid for cornering. All things considered, his natural driving style and lines seem to have elements of Max Verstappen, Michael Schumacher, Alonso and Prost about it - kind of a mix that's reminiscent of. But he's also learning from Lando too now and he's picked up a lot from him. Lando is a lot smoother and gentler with the McLaren and typically goes into the corner with higher entry speed but is smoother on the application of the brake and throttle. Lando also has smoother and gentler lines through the corners and has a longer but slightly slower exit out of them. Lando's style and smoothness has been likened to Button's in the past.
In terms of car setup and handling preferences, while Oscar and Lando are quite similar, there's still differences to be had. Lando seems to prefer a much more balanced car that caters to his aforementioned driving style. Oscar on the other hand I believe prefers a slightly pointier car that he can live with right on the ragged edge and go on maximum attack allowing him to be super aggressive with his corner speeds. You'll often see Oscar take a bit more downforce than Lando which might be for this reason.
Mark Hughes has mentioned that Oscar prefers alot more front end, in fact even compared to verstappen or shumacher in terms of ability to deal with a very pointy car.
@@henrywilliams8313 If that's true that's insane because Max likes an insanely pointy car, perhaps the pointiest on the grid, followed only by Daniel Ricciardo. I would suggest then that Oscar also likes a strong enough rear-end that allows him to get planted and accelerate as soon as possible out of a corner, because Max and Ricciardo all prefer loose rear-ends.
It’s pretty clear that the McLaren is a hard car to learn and has been for a while, which explains Piastri tyre management issues, especially on high-deg circuits. Norris has learnt to manage this over time and has been in the car for almost 5.5 years. Norris has had the opportunity to learn and manage the tyre management issues without being in the spotlight because he flew under the radar in his first two years in F1. Norris only got one podium in his first two years of F1. Piastri was up near the top of the grid in his rookie season due to his raw talent, hence the spotlight on this learning experience. Piastri tyre management will be significantly better by the end of the year due to additional race pace experience.
It’s definitely a case of learning for piastri. He has been much better on the tracks he is driving for the 2nd time this year. China wasn’t great but it was his first time at the track.
"Piastri was up near the top of the grid in his rookie season due to his raw talent" you need to add and a more competitive Mclaren which Lando in his first two years did not have. Oscar qualified on average 9,4 which on average is not near the top of the grid.is it. His average race reult was 11 th and Lando 8th. in 2023
IMO, arguably Oscar's best race in Formula 1 so far was the 2023 British GP. Unfortunately he finished 4th due to the unlucky timing of the safety car, but his race pace was genuinely less than 0.1s off Lando for the whole race, with no drop off. And it was only his first race with the huge upgrades. It was a prime example of how Oscar was immediately good enough to fight for podiums, and even wins, as long as the track is low degradation...
Piastri is gonna be a problem in future... he is flying under the radar with his chilled atitude and british bias about Lando...
The battle to be McLaren #1 is going to be very interesting to watch
@@NotApplicableJB i think it could turn ugly... Lando can be a spiky character what he is annoyed and i think Oscar will also become that way and i think Mark Webber will tell him to be more aggressive and not make the same mistakes like he did with Vettel
Another great vid! Oscar will get that win eventually and I’m excited to see it🧡
I feel like Oscar could be the next driver to win a championship for McLaren
@@NotApplicableJBI hope so!
I think there is big problem. Oscar will get more experience and he will be good as Norris. And it can end up like Rozberg and Hamilton. Big big rivality.
I hope that he and Lando end up battling for championships like the Merc boys did
I think this aged alright
Once Oscar starts getting treated equally he will finish in front of Norris imo. Currently Norris is being given a cushy ride combined with the fact he got very lucky for his first race win in Miami. Oscar has been done over by his team on multiple occassions this year. Firstly, they pitted him 30 seconds before the vsc in miami when he was leading the race which massively benefitted Norris. If not for that dumb move Oscar would likely won in Miami. Instead they pitt him, he loses his position due to the vsc and then sainz takes him out of the race resulting in no points.
Next he finishes on the front row at imola and his team incompetently doesnt tell him that Magnussen is behind him in qualifying and costs him another podium or possible race win. Then he finishes 2nd at monaco. Oscar should be on at least 100 points if his team doesn't continue to screw him over and favour his team mate. Oscar's talent will win out regardless of Zac manipulating Norris race results.
What you also fail to mention is that Piastri is generally in dirty air and his team is directing him to push to help out his team mate meaning his tyres can go off early whereas Norris can drive exactly how he wants thus saving the tyres. Treat them equally mclaren and let's see who is the better driver. Maybe they are protecting Norris from getting shown up and losing his confidence.
Other teams know what's going on at mclaren and how Oscar is being hobbled. Once he is out of contract it won't be hard for better teams to convince oscar to leave if mclaren continue to favour the inferior Norris. It's obvious Norris requested favouritism to stay. Dumb move Zak.
Lmfao the copium 😂 Piastri is potentially goat material, but he's not the finished product yet
Insightful video! Thanks again 😊
Thank you for watching!
I think most of its really down to luck, his probably lost 35 points just from people giving him damage. He does still need to improve that tire mangment but he just needs to have people stopping smashing into him lmao. And for monaco he did have damage the whole race for like 2 or 3 tenths which means his tyre deg was also alot worse having to push extra.
You’re right, he has also been quite unlucky this season with strategy and contact. I hope he can close the gap to the top 5 and get the points he deserves
this season he hasnt lost more than 10 points mate. but if we’re talking about last year too then yes, probably close to 30
@user-uc1ny1ns2o I mean miami was atleast 19, China he was in for a top 5 but got damage atleast another 12. Then grid pentaly cost him atleast another 5 in imola
@@Ethan8181 thats really over the top. he would have finished 5th in miami without the crash with sainz, and he was running in 8th place in china anyway, he didnt lose a single position because of his damage. he was very slow before that anyway. he lost 10 points, all of them in miami, and maybe another 3 points in imola with the grid penalty
@user-uc1ny1ns2o I mean miami his pace was sold it was atleast a p3. Honestly I barely remember china lmao. It could be a over exaggeration, but I still think it was between the 10 to 20 points.
Mate what a great video with so much technical data, subbed and thank you!
Oscar is the best newcomer in the sports at the moment and he will be a champion before the likes of Russell.
He is fast and handles the car with ease and he will beat a lot of top drivers this season.
I would honestly rather see him winning for them over Lando. I’ve always liked Oscar. I like how he conducts himself. He’s always focused on what he needs to do and seems to leave his emotions outside of the car when he’s driving it. I appreciate a silent killer like that. That being said, he’s still a little behind Lando on most tracks, but I think he’ll be there with him in another year or two for sure.
He'll get there. It's a matter of "When" not "If". Hopefully, he'll get there this season but it's inevitable.
I could see him stepping up his game send half of this season and then 3rd year being the whole package
@@NotApplicableJB Yeah, agreed. I think that's the way it'll go.
Piastri reminds me of Jenson Button, quiet driver, killer instinct.
Makes sense JB got me into F1 and Oscar is quickly becoming my favourite
Oscar said he compares himself to Alan Prost.
You took the words right out of my mouth well my fingers in this case, a slightly more aggressive than Button but so similar.
I think you were spot on before May but the last 3 races he could of won all 3. Miami Lando won because of the safety car. Imola dodgy pit communications. Monaco if he got pole he would of won. By the summer break we will know if he has leapfrogged Lando. Or you right.
Lando joined the team when McLaren were still a midfield team. Piastri joined when McLaren started being good again. However, he has adapted to the car really well and is really fast. I believe that Norris is a faster driver than Oscar but Piastri is more consistent and has a more adaptable driving style. I’d love to see a title battle between these two their some of my favorite drivers.
That’s very true, but we have to remember for the first half of last season the McLaren was running at the back of the pack most races. Like Oscar’s debit was a disaster. So he has only had half a season of battles to learn from
Totally agree that Piastri is a future champion. And yes, he needs to adapt his driving to get better tire milage and get closer to Norris. But A. from day 1 Piastri has been at the same pace as Norris, B. has had to drive with damage to his car done by someone else driving into him (yes twice he was at fault) and C. he has had only 1 and a half years compared to Norris' 5 years and has scored points as consistently as he can, compared to other new drivers in the same time span, who will usually drop off before finding their feet! Someone once compared Piastri to Hamilton in his early career (again it was with McLaren) and if this is close to true, Piastri has the potential to bag 4 DWC's in his career.
As you said, F1 today is all about experience and how you can control these tyres.
Pirelli being welcomed into F1 was to have a tyre that has high performance and promotes strategy, once Oscar gets his mojo in race pace he will be extremely quick.
His quali pace is already up there and ahead of Lando sometimes.
I do feel like F1 is a little too dependent on tyres for entertainment at times but they do offer a real learning curve for drivers to prove their skill
@@NotApplicableJB yeah i agree on that. The problem is that the competition turns into who can manage these tyres the best, not who is the quickest overall.
That’s what sprint races try to get rid of, but unfortunately some of these pirelli’s cant even handle being pushed 20 odd laps. Always having to manage is making the sport become stale.
This is where i think MotoGP has hit it well with their sprint format. It’s just raw pace 100% of the 10-15 laps they race.
Lando has improved massively in race pace this year, he has probably one of the best tyre management skill on the grid I would say. However, we haven't seen the same improvement in quali, if you compare his quali sessions this year and 2021/2022, he was always putting that car in positions that it shouldn't have been at, whereas this year, he hasn't really had smooth quali sessions and I also don't think he's managed to get everything out of the car. That's the area where he needs to improve now because Oscar is already a lot closer to him in quali than he was last year, and if that car is capable of getting poles, it would be a huge advantage given the fact that the difference in race pace is apparently minimal now. He needs to step up in quali.
It's worth mentioning too that Oscar is potentially closer to Lando already than what Lando was to Carlos Sainz this time in his second season. Lando did beat him in quali H2H but Carlos wasn't considered a top driver back then either, just a good midfielder. Lando is considered a top driver now and he's considered better than Carlos, while Oscar is nearly at Prime Lando's level already and is fast approaching.
@@RockSolitudeNah, both lando and Carlos were getting the most out of a very unpredictable car back then, in fact lando adapted better than Carlos because Carlos said that he couldn't fully adapt to the car as it had weird characteristics, but lando adapted better,especially in high speed corners (Carlos said that himself), he only lacked experience in the race. If lando joined f1 now, he would also be extracting similar performances if not better than Oscar. Oscar is doing a great job but it's worth noting that mclaren also have a much better car now, if he had the 2019/20 car to drive, he wouldn't be getting so much hype around him.
@@RockSolitude Another info, Oscar also had lando's data and telemetry, and vice versa, and he said that lando's data really helped him adapt quicker to the car in his rookie season.
I think the main issue is that Lando cracks under pressure when he thinks a pole or podium is possible, or if he thinks he can beat Max. Right at the pointy end of the grid when the stakes get high and the pressure higher, he gets tunnel vision, starts to lose his nerve a bit and starts making mistakes. He becomes "desperate" and anxious (for lack of a better word) when he doesn't need to. He will improve with time and experience in this area.
@@saahil_xd I am aware that one of the key traits of Lando is his adaptability and his ability to drive on razor edge margins of the car's sweet spot, which is why he is one of the few drivers that could be fast with the McLaren. However, Carlos was also fast with the McLaren. Maybe the car was inconsistent and maybe he couldn't get the most out of it like Lando, but he still did pretty well, and again he was able to beat Lando over a season and in most races. He was more consistent. That comes a lot down to experience, as it does with Oscar and Lando now, however, again, Carlos Sainz was not rated as a top driver back then, just as a very good midfielder. It's also worth noting that just as Oscar has been helped by Lando, Lando was helped by Sainz and his data. Lando is in his prime now and is considered a better (and faster) driver than Sainz. Even if the car is better now and less unpredictable/inconsistent (though it still has the same quirks, just at less magnitude), there is still something to be said for Oscar being this close to Lando (who's at his best pace-wise) already, and how he's rapidly reaching Lando's level. If rookie Lando and rookie Oscar where to be dropped into today's car at the same time, I reckon they would be pretty much equal on straight pace, with only each driver's strengths and weaknesses, individual qualities and different driving style making the difference at different points. It also has to be said, Oscar also had a reputation for being extremely adaptable (in his junior career but even at McLaren) so I find it hard to count him out against Lando or Carlos if he was dropped into a 2019 McLaren.
Piastri is very good at single-lap pace, good at not making incident. But very bad at tires degradation. Very often during the race he looks more pace than his opponents only to struggle at the end. For me it's not more pace it's just that other are managing better. For now he does not seems to improve himself on that so for me he is still far behind Norris.
He is improving though. You can even see him improving. You have to understand that Oscar is only 30 races into his F1 career as of me writing this. Lando is 116. To put it another way, Oscar is only 18 months into F1, Lando is about 6 years. You are expecting too much too fast. F1 tyre management is something that people learn with time and experience racing in F1 with F1 Pirelli tyres. You can't learn it any other way. It has taken Lando years to get where he is now, and it can be all the more complicated with a tricky car that you need to adapt to lap-to-lap, corner-to-corner, as the McLaren is famous for.
@@RockSolitudeI'm not criticizing him, I'm just saying that for me, at this moment, he is behind Norris in terms of performance due to his tire management. He has only slightly improved this aspect in his first year, but the very last races (after my initial comment) still show some positive signs. I will be delighted to welcome his talent when he fully performs in all areas, especially tire management. But of course, I consider that he has a lot of potential, he is very good in all other aspects of racing (despite some recent mistakes, especially in qualifying).
honestly, i think this will end up being a rosberg-hamilton situation, but piastri will be the rosberg. his tyre management is pretty bad, but he will learn to manage his tyres over time. the problem is, you dont really GAIN pace over your formula 1 career. thats the thing you were born with and the thing you improved in junior series. and his pace, tyre deg excluded, is still about a tenth behind norris, on some circuits even 2-2.5. it would be a great battle between these two, but lets see where piastri’s ceiling is. dont forget norris keeps improving even after 5 years in f1! hes only one year older. really looking forward to 2026. i think thats when we’ll see a good battle between those 2.
Typically on the weekends when Oscar is up to about three tenths off of Lando in raw pace (quali pace), it’s when Lando is running an upgrade. On an absolute even playing field raw pace, they’re within about a tenth of each other and it chops and changes week to week, track to track regarding which one is faster. They’re both really good drivers, top shelf and so evenly matched when it comes down to absolute speed.
@@MechanicalSculptor this hasnt really happened this year. ironically, oscar was within 1 and a half tenths to lando in miami (qualifying) when lando did have upgrades, but in australia and japan, the gap was pretty big even though they both had the exact same car. that was more of a thing last year although still, piastri has improved, last year he had weekends where he was even 4 tenths off, like in austin and brazil.
@@jcoekwfkelsjbx Yep, you’ve made your point well and changed my mind. So, evidently Oscar is still slower than Lando rather than them being about equal, though over the long haul and with added experience I’d expect Oscar to ultimately have the edge in raw speed. This of course is anecdotal and only time will really tell, but for the time being I’ll just be enjoying their inter-team rivalry, and their exploits against the rest of the field. Cheers 🙂
@@MechanicalSculptor its tough to say. some drivers progress more than others. look at sainz for example. hes progressed so much in the last 2 years and he much older. on the other hand there are drivers that peak early. its tough to say with oscar. i think he’ll improve, but not quite enough. because norris, although hes been in f1 for 5 years, still can improve and will improve his mental side. we’ll see in 26.
7:25 lets call Piastri Mr.Undercut
Lando Norris is in a real world of pain if Piastri gets past the tire problems. The kid is seriously fast
Being a Ferrari fan, really hope Oscar to do better, he is an exceptional driver and has a great future. Great video!
lol good timing
Great video! 4K Resolution would be nice :)
Maybe one day!
he is not winning because of mclaren. he could win last race(austrian gp). my opinion.
Always have said that Pirelli produce crap tires. Rather, F1 should go back to at least 2 tire suppliers. This will surely spur competition.
I think Oscar will win the 2025 championship.
I think he is really good. Its just a car that was built around a rookie several years ago, so now it has some really weird traits.
I wish you had to use a soft, medium and hard tire during each race. It would make strategy more complicated.
They’ve discussed this before, the problem is most drivers use all their softs in Quali
Lando and Oscar are going to be the next McLaren world champions. I’m sure of it.
if you count sprint races he's already won
Who doesn't prefer a stable rear end?
I can see him winning this year
he as so close in Austria
You can't compare it to the car DR had, they have changed so much on that car ffs
Oscar
Daniel didn’t drive well for Renault
Put it on the podium twice in two years, and consistently into the points. Way better than any other Renault driver of the time. He made that bonafide lower middle order car fast pretty frequently. For this reason, you might recall, nobody was criticising him at the time, the criticism only came when he put himself into a McLaren that he couldn’t get his head around.
Sytle. Hah.
Piastri is definitely one of the most promising driver prospects in recent history other than Liam and Oliver
I would say Piastri and Lawson are future champions, i just don’t see Bearman winning a championship. Lawson has good chances to replace Perez for 2026 and Piastri already has a race winning car. If Ollie goes to Haas in 2025, he will just stay there until Lewis retires. Then he will be Leclercs number two driver and if you look at what happened to Raikkonen and Sainz, Ollie will probably just get fired for some stupid reason and never win a title
Norris will always be a paying F1 driver
If his daddy didnt buy him his seat he wouldnt be in F1....
Just like Stroll
Then can he really drive the McLaren, Really? If you have to THINK about tyre wear more than driving then he's not as good as you think
Hamilton is always complaining about tyre wear yet he is a 7 times wc, what's your point ?
Unfortunately at the moment anyone that drives the McLaren has to really think about it. Sainz, Ricciardo, Norris, O'Ward, Palou they have all said it has something weird about it
@@zonomena9153 7 times he was the best of what they offered as a field of drivers that's all, the field has grown skill lvls have improved. Grow be competitive or get out of the car
@@NotApplicableJB agreed,but others have conquered this issue
Oscar is a rookie of 2 years, I think people are too hard on him considering that he’s won a sprint race.
Your a typical Pom that knows fuck all about F1 you should keep your shit.videos off the internet Oscar is getting better every race your a real looser
The entire video is praising Oscar and saying that he is already close to being a championship contender…
@@NotApplicableJB
Haha …. geez …. I’d like to see you do a video actually criticising Oscar, just to see how it sets this guy off 😁
Piastri is a great driver but his junior career , alhtough very good was not sensational. It has been hyped. He did not win any chamionship until Formula renault Eurocup and he took two years coming 8th in the 1st year. He then won F3 as a rookie but only 4 points ahead of Logan Sargeant who was third. He then won F2 as a rookie. Lando was only ever beaten by one driver George Russell in F2 and he won five other chmamponships as a rookie. I dont think your anlysis of their driving styles is supported by others. Peter Windsor says Oscar has short corners and Lando is not long corner but half way and it is Lando that has delicate and smooth inputs and Oscar is more agreesive. Oscar has now raced in 30 GP plus sprints which is the equivalent of what was two full seasons.. I am sure Oscar will win a race this year or at worst next year but that doesnt mean he is a better driver than Lando. He has the benefit of a competitive Mclaren which Lando hasnt really had until now. Yes Oscar has got to improve his tyre and race strategy . However its wrong to assume that every driver with enough laps under his belt becomes good at it. Lando and Lewsi are exceptional. Oscar will improve but will he improve enoughnot to beat Lando but do it regularly. That I think is unlikely..
I hope he never wins
Average alpine fan jealous of oscar 😂
Been ready since last year, how else did he win a sprint race before Norris, but he is constantly been sabotage by McClaren.
Take away Miami where it wasn’t pastri’s fault he didn’t get points. The gap is only 17 points. His seat isn’t in danger because he is good, not because of his contract
Yeah Miami was a massive swing with Lando getting the win too. True but you get the contract because you are good so it kinda works both ways.
the gap would be 32 points 👍
Piastri will cut his teeth with McLaren increase his $ value then basically tell McLaren to make a choice. One of them has to go & I doubt Piastri or Webber his manager care much which way it goes.
Money talks, bullshit walks.
If you have to change your style every lap, make a car properly ffs