After watching one of your videos about this camera about a year ago, one of this just showed up on my radar and I bought it. It is my first medium format camera and I couldn't love it. Mine came with an 80 and 120mm lens. My specific Kiev 60 was great with film spacing, but did suffer from light leaks. My local camera store sent it off and it has since been bulletproof. You sum up the experience of shooting with this perfectly, there's just something about it. Thank you for turning me on to this camera in the first place!
I purchased a Kiev 60 in 2019 off eBay. Like many of them, the spacing issues were severe so I shipped it off to Ukraine to get it repaired. A month later, they returned it in perfect working order. It's become my sentimental favourite 120 camera to use--even though I love my Hasselblad 500 C/M as well. There's something about the cannon-like sound of the shutter, and the images it takes are quite lovely. For what I purchased it for, it's been a great deal.
I bought one in the mid 90s. It worked well but had some spacing issues. I found an online guide to repair the spacing fault and it worked like a dream. Wasn't difficult to repair if my memory serves. It's the only film camera I kept. The Mamiya, Contax, Canon, Pentax, Nikon all went as I moved into digital. But there seemed no good reason to get rid of the Kiev.
Your explanation of the "feelgood feeling" makes a lot of reason. To me that's what it is all about when I take my camera out for what you called a 12 picture session. Images where beautiful btw, and so was the accompanying piano!
I know exactly what you mean. I don't own a vintage car, but I do own a classic motorcycle. Modern motorcycles are better in every way but my old bike makes me smile like no modern bike. My feel good camera is a Mamiya C330f. I bought it when it was about 40 years old but it had never been used. There's something special about being the first person to put a roll of film through a camera that old. It's heavy, so very heavy and it has all the TLR disadvantages but it makes me happy when I use it.
I resisted buying the Kiev 60 for decades yet love the satisfying mechanical shutter sound while using my Kiev 88 so much I must try the Kiev 60. Thankfully I have the fisheye in both mounts.😊
“It’s made of some kind of metal that’s heavy as steel and soft as plastic.” 😂 Congrats on the Kiev 60, I’m certain you’ll continue to make beautiful images with it. 🍾
the joy could stem from the phenomenon, that a heavy camera makes you take more serious photos vs. a cheap light plastic camera! this thing is heavy... you can also get a 13th frame in the roll if the spacing is calibrated just right). great vid 👍
Wow man, such an entertaining video. I understand very well the importance of how something feels. The pictures you made with this cam are marvellous. And I like the piano-music. I guess you play it yourself?
Love it, Ari!! The sound. The feel. The imperfections of vintage stuff is as someone on the liner notes of the original “Woodstock” album said - “Proof of its heritage”. Had to chuckle seeing the Nikon Z ad preceding your video this week. Gonna guess that someone lost money on that ad! After watching your video this week - I FEEL GOOD!! Thank you
Lovely pictures! Just a side point: The geographical names we use in Norway has changed from Kiev to Kyiv and from Kharkov to Kharkiv. I know this do not influence the product brands, but still… The next project is to get our language council to change from Tammersfors to Tampere! 😊👍🏻
Thanks again! Ansel said that the most important thing was the idea (paraphrasing) and this lights from a different direction than is usually done. To my thinking Understanding is a marriage between the intellectual and the emotional and trying to understand what we see is the goal in photography isn't it? To understand relationships between people or things. To understand context and the interplay of force- whether it's brought to bear intentionally or it is simply change and the marks of it's passing from one thing to the next. A marriage between two things means that both are important (by varying degrees). Intellect and emotion coming together at the press of a shutter button. Of course you should focus your lens and let your emotions guide your aperture and the gear you carry helps with that. And if you look good carrying it- all the better! mike
Great video. Reminds me of my Kiev 88. I have all lens but the fisheye. Had light leak issues but after getting back into film, I sent the camera to Araxphoto , just before the war started. Now, 80 rolls later , the camera gets lots of use. I still tape the backs to the camera for a little assurance . Always, use a lens hood on all lenses . Yep, I know the feeling. Thanks.KB
I get the same feel good vibes with my Pentacon Six TL. Took that camera to Taiwan and Japan, frame counter never worked properly, but shutter speeds and frame spacing were perfect. I love using camera, it gets taken out almost daily. Then I slipped on some rocks a while back, camera took a knock, died a couple rolls later. Just bought another perfectly working body and will have that original repaired. I think maybe next, I'll pick up a Kiev 60.
Hi, I have had a Kiev for many years. The seller at Riihimäki told me that the Techinician of the Planetarium in Näsinneula has bought several of the 30mm Zodiak lenses for the projector. Yes, the 80mm lens is very soft wide open. I have a 120mm Vega, it seems sharper. You should also have the vintage brown leather case for the Kiev, that adds up for the feelgood. Btw, do you use the yellow filter for those very nice skys, mine tend to blow out.. Br, Eeli
I am not sure which of my cameras make me feel better than another as they all make me feel good. My Yashica Mat 124G feels good, but my Minolta Alpha 7 and 9 have a satisfying chunk with the mirror. But as a James Brown camera, my Nikon F5 makes me say, “I feel good!” I just gel very well with that camera. But honestly “I feel good” anytime I am out and photographing! Thanks for a “feel good” video haha.
Interesting camera. I too prefer the chimney viewfinder. It is so much more accommodating to those of us with those silly optics hanging off our nose. LOL That is an awesome looking fisheye! For medium I have Holga and Mamiya 645. Just got a shutter release cable adapter for the Holga. Now I can take long exposures with it. As always, lovely photos! It's always cool when you get things from someone unexpectedly. Thats how I got several of my 35mm cameras...lol. Happy Shooting my friend!!!
Ari I have one and the same lenses as you have, I also have the Bio 180mm lens. I use these lenses on my Kiev80 and Pentacon Six camera's as well. I get what you are saying, they have an aurora when you are using them.
This is a very informative video. But I was wondering if you could tell me the name of the lens. I love fisheye photography and having a medium format ultra wide that doesn’t cost 1500€(hasselblad swc) would be great. Thank you.
I'm not a fan of Soviet technology - their cameras are a bit like tractors in use, but they have good optics - lenses, often copies of Zeiss lenses can be considered good! And a lot of East German also fits... I don't have any 6x6 SLR, but I don't know if I would like it to be a Soviet camera. Maybe Kowa? I give up on Hassellblad - too expensive for me. Great photos ❗🌟 Regards 😁
Today i was shooting in venice Italy. But it was little rainy day so i decided to leave my Rb in my car and shoot with my 35 OM10. i need to buy something lighter and less bulky 120 mm. Rb is good for studio and tripod, but for everything else is just pain in the ass😂
For me, I like powerful cameras. The mount is compatible with Pentacon Six, but in the USSR the tolerances and fits were rougher than in the GDR. On the one hand, this degrades the quality in new cameras, on the other hand, currently very difficult to find a working Pentacon, they are more expensive, but you can find a lot of Kiev cameras in working state
Possibly -- even though the common knowledge on the internet (which very often is wrong, I know) says that Pentacon Six is even more unreliable. I had one a long time ago, and it did not work at all ... so I think in the case of these cameras, unreliability is a part of the game :-)
The Kiev 60 was more or less an Ukrainian attempt to copy the East German Pentacon Six. Both cameras have virtually the same reliability and quality issues, but if you find a good copy, either of them can be a quite reliable work horse. I like the form factor of the Pentacon Six much more than that of the Kiev 60, and the Pentacon does weigh less than the Kievs. So when I'm out with my wheelchair for a photo session, I have - among other cameras - always two Pentacon Six cameras with Zeiss lenses on me, one with the 120mm Biometar and the other with the 50mm Flektogon, and one loaded with b&w film and the other with color film. I also have an ARAX Hasselblad knock off, but I found, that this Pentacon combo with two bodies and two lenses take less space and less weight than the ARAX with two lenses and two backs. I also have a few other Russian and Carl Zeiss lenses for those cameras, but I rarely use them. Ah yes - just to mention it: I never liked fish-eye lenses. I won't buy one oe use one ever.
To me the whole film photography is a "feel good thing", something done because of the feeling, not because it offers any technical advantage and that's why I love old mechanical cameras. They feel and sound so different from modern digital ones, they have weight and that substantial feeling of something made to last compared to the light, toy-like feeling newer models. I don't care for the latest full auto plastic film cameras because they are too much like the digital ones. Film cameras and pictures taken on film also feel somehow more "real" than digital images in a computer. I have a Kiev 88 and I really like it and have taken great pictures (by my standards anyway) with it, unfortunately it's started acting up. I think the mirror is sticking which causes the shutter to fire with a considerable delay and sometimes to completely fail to fire unless I tilt the camera downwards which of course means I get a picture of the ground. Don't know if I should try to fix it myself (which of course comes with a very real possibility I'll ruin it completely) or find someone to fix it. Unfortunately I don't know about anybody else who works on these cameras besides Arax and with them there's the trouble, cost and risk of shipping the camera to Ukraine and back. For some reason I have always used the prism finder on the Kiev, even though I do have a waist level finder too. On the other hand on my Mamiya RB67 I practically always use the waist level finder even though I also do have a prism- and chimney finders for it. Maybe because the Kiev, even though not a lightweight, is still not too big or heavy to shoot from the eye-level while the Mamiya is about the size and weight of an anvil (and the prism finder adds considerably to it's weight and bulk) so it's easier to hold it against my chest, preferably supported by a strap, when shooting hand held.
Thanks for sharing your unexplainable, Ari. It is certainly strange, things you despise at one point, you end up liking later. I despised Volvos, yet ended up loving them (240 series). I thought BMW boxer air-cooled twins were dorky, now I own one. Unexplainable.
beautiful camera! I love all the different film camera! the Start 66 is cheaper for 6x6 format ;P at least I got mine (Start 66S) for less than 15 euros ;P
Yes, also, say, a Nettar is much cheaper. But then, this Kiev is a system with interchangeable lenses and all. As such, it's probably the cheapest you can find :-)
Using my Kiev 60 makes me wonder if drinking vodka is a valid life choice. My zodiak 30mm gives me said vodka vision. Best to lay off, I think. I do like it when the frame spacing cooperates. I even have a Pentacon 6 body that I got in a package deal with a CZJ 80mm & 50mm Flek - I didn't buy that package for the camera!
I find myself coping with the cognitive dissonance felt when choosing the struggles of film and vintage gear over the ease of a modern digital camera. I really do like my film photos better. I'm just not sure why. The overlapping frame problem on the Kiev could make for some happy 6x17 or triptych accidents. Imagine the cognitive dissonance justifying the wasted film trying to get a keeper that way.
I go through the same struggle myself. I think to myself if I could just afford to get a GFX for medium format it would be good enough to replace my 120 cameras. I stopped shooting 35mm film though and opted to just use my Z6. I found what I was looking for in medium format but it would be a big investment to see if the GFX would give me the same thing. For me shooting film and using 120 cameras is the best option for me. It helps I enjoy the results I get with film.
'Feeling good' is a photographers problem.Using big, wonderful viewing and perfect exposures are a continent apart.. I had a Pentax 6x7. Reliable to a fault. The battery the Achiles Heel.! If voltage below 100%, it would not work. Off to a job, spare battery. Load film, 1st test exposure, mirror 1/2 way. New battery! OK spare battery. 2nd Exposure. You know the answer! Not enough power.. A shiny black and silver Rox case, extra lenses 2, Filters, spare film. It weighs a ton. Metric or Imperial. I have spare Rolleiflex inside. Automat! No F***** battery reqd. I load film, easily. It's an Automat. Now the viewfinder is great. My best composures. Except i go left, subject goes right. Pentax is a SLR, Pentaprism! Soon I'm busy shooting. Great exposures. Sharp, silent! The 6x7 like the famous Colt Peacemaker .44 ? speaks with Autority. If one uses a Hassie, you now the sounds effect. Echoing thru the church... The Rollie never fails. It's just so unsinspiring! Why? But one day, another continent, a sign that says Samy's and a great trade. I leave with a Leica M6TTL body, new in a box.. 3+ months later I've exposed more film and exposures than over 20 years of Fat Albert. The SLR. The Rollie stays! Loved your video. Bravo, we soldier on..
My heart got warm on slava Ukraine 🙌🏻 I’m Ukrainian and watching your video to toptoe into medium format. Thanks for your review and impressions
Slava Ukraini! Thanks for watching!
After watching one of your videos about this camera about a year ago, one of this just showed up on my radar and I bought it. It is my first medium format camera and I couldn't love it. Mine came with an 80 and 120mm lens. My specific Kiev 60 was great with film spacing, but did suffer from light leaks. My local camera store sent it off and it has since been bulletproof. You sum up the experience of shooting with this perfectly, there's just something about it. Thank you for turning me on to this camera in the first place!
I’m happy if I helped you to find it. I mean it’s not for everyone but …😊
I purchased a Kiev 60 in 2019 off eBay. Like many of them, the spacing issues were severe so I shipped it off to Ukraine to get it repaired. A month later, they returned it in perfect working order. It's become my sentimental favourite 120 camera to use--even though I love my Hasselblad 500 C/M as well. There's something about the cannon-like sound of the shutter, and the images it takes are quite lovely. For what I purchased it for, it's been a great deal.
I know exactly what you mean. It is not as good as a H500, but something about it makes it so captivating.
I bought one in the mid 90s. It worked well but had some spacing issues. I found an online guide to repair the spacing fault and it worked like a dream. Wasn't difficult to repair if my memory serves.
It's the only film camera I kept. The Mamiya, Contax, Canon, Pentax, Nikon all went as I moved into digital. But there seemed no good reason to get rid of the Kiev.
Your explanation of the "feelgood feeling" makes a lot of reason. To me that's what it is all about when I take my camera out for what you called a 12 picture session.
Images where beautiful btw, and so was the accompanying piano!
Thanks thanks. Appreciated!
no one can say you don't know how to make entertaining & interesting videos, also very informative!
Oh, wow. And thanks for watching!! 😊
I know exactly what you mean. I don't own a vintage car, but I do own a classic motorcycle. Modern motorcycles are better in every way but my old bike makes me smile like no modern bike. My feel good camera is a Mamiya C330f. I bought it when it was about 40 years old but it had never been used. There's something special about being the first person to put a roll of film through a camera that old. It's heavy, so very heavy and it has all the TLR disadvantages but it makes me happy when I use it.
Mamiya TLRs are awesome cameras. So substantial and sturdy!
I resisted buying the Kiev 60 for decades yet love the satisfying mechanical shutter sound while using my Kiev 88 so much I must try the Kiev 60.
Thankfully I have the fisheye in both mounts.😊
Do not resist :-) Just go with the flow!
@@ShootOnFilm Resistance is futile! ;-)
“It’s made of some kind of metal that’s heavy as steel and soft as plastic.” 😂 Congrats on the Kiev 60, I’m certain you’ll continue to make beautiful images with it. 🍾
I will sure try! 😅
the joy could stem from the phenomenon, that a heavy camera makes you take more serious photos vs. a cheap light plastic camera! this thing is heavy...
you can also get a 13th frame in the roll if the spacing is calibrated just right).
great vid 👍
This Mikko guy that I mentioned in the beginning of the video always take 13 images. But then one roll of pics won’t fit into a regular paper sleeve 😅
Wow man, such an entertaining video. I understand very well the importance of how something feels. The pictures you made with this cam are marvellous. And I like the piano-music. I guess you play it yourself?
Thanks, thanks!! yeah, I rather do everything by myself :-)
Love it, Ari!! The sound. The feel. The imperfections of vintage stuff is as someone on the liner notes of the original “Woodstock” album said - “Proof of its heritage”. Had to chuckle seeing the Nikon Z ad preceding your video this week. Gonna guess that someone lost money on that ad! After watching your video this week - I FEEL GOOD!! Thank you
Hey!!! Thanks for watching. I spent this weekend on an island - with my Kiev 😊
when I look at those pictures, I feel good. You knew that I would, now.
😅 so good, so good!
Great points, Ari. Well done and more wonderful photos. My feel-good camera is Bronica S2A. I love to hold it and listen to it.
I bet that is also pretty physical and substantial camera!!!
Lovely pictures! Just a side point: The geographical names we use in Norway has changed from Kiev to Kyiv and from Kharkov to Kharkiv. I know this do not influence the product brands, but still… The next project is to get our language council to change from Tammersfors to Tampere! 😊👍🏻
Agreed :-). How about Norway to Norja. Just kidding 😅
Thanks again! Ansel said that the most important thing was the idea (paraphrasing) and this lights from a different direction than is usually done. To my thinking Understanding is a marriage between the intellectual and the emotional and trying to understand what we see is the goal in photography isn't it? To understand relationships between people or things. To understand context and the interplay of force- whether it's brought to bear intentionally or it is simply change and the marks of it's passing from one thing to the next.
A marriage between two things means that both are important (by varying degrees). Intellect and emotion coming together at the press of a shutter button. Of course you should focus your lens and let your emotions guide your aperture and the gear you carry helps with that.
And if you look good carrying it- all the better!
mike
Great video. Reminds me of my Kiev 88. I have all lens but the fisheye. Had light leak issues but after getting back into film, I sent the camera to Araxphoto , just before the war started. Now, 80 rolls later , the camera gets lots of use. I still tape the backs to the camera for a little assurance . Always, use a lens hood on all lenses . Yep, I know the feeling. Thanks.KB
I also like the fact that these Kievs are heavy. They feel more substantial!
@@ShootOnFilm yes,I like the feel too. Also have a few Kiev 4/4a's. Hard to get repaired, but cheap enough to have a few backups.
All my stuff is practically vintage: car, camera, house, me, etc. I do have a younger wife, though. I feel good!
Mine all is vintage 😊
yea bro and a young wife is all ir matters! 😂
I get the same feel good vibes with my Pentacon Six TL. Took that camera to Taiwan and Japan, frame counter never worked properly, but shutter speeds and frame spacing were perfect. I love using camera, it gets taken out almost daily. Then I slipped on some rocks a while back, camera took a knock, died a couple rolls later. Just bought another perfectly working body and will have that original repaired.
I think maybe next, I'll pick up a Kiev 60.
Both great -- or at least interesting -- cameras!
The feelgood feeling thing 😎
is that important thing in life 🤗🤗🤗
An it comes from Kyiv💙💛....
Thanks for sharing....
Greetings from Germany
Thanks for watching!!!
Hi, I have had a Kiev for many years. The seller at Riihimäki told me that the Techinician of the Planetarium in Näsinneula has bought several of the 30mm Zodiak lenses for the projector. Yes, the 80mm lens is very soft wide open. I have a 120mm Vega, it seems sharper. You should also have the vintage brown leather case for the Kiev, that adds up for the feelgood. Btw, do you use the yellow filter for those very nice skys, mine tend to blow out.. Br, Eeli
It sounds like it could chop off your fingers. An endearing feature for a camera.
It sure does. And break your back, too.
@@ShootOnFilm Yes, possibly the least fun part of owning a lot of interesting film cameras.
Thanks for video-review! I'm beginner owner of Kiev 6C.
Nice video 👍
I get that feeling with Pentacon Six 😊
It actually is a very nice looking camera!!!
I am not sure which of my cameras make me feel better than another as they all make me feel good. My Yashica Mat 124G feels good, but my Minolta Alpha 7 and 9 have a satisfying chunk with the mirror. But as a James Brown camera, my Nikon F5 makes me say, “I feel good!” I just gel very well with that camera. But honestly “I feel good” anytime I am out and photographing! Thanks for a “feel good” video haha.
I can see why your F5 makes you feel good. It is pretty much the ultimate 35mm SLR camera!
Interesting camera. I too prefer the chimney viewfinder. It is so much more accommodating to those of us with those silly optics hanging off our nose. LOL That is an awesome looking fisheye! For medium I have Holga and Mamiya 645. Just got a shutter release cable adapter for the Holga. Now I can take long exposures with it. As always, lovely photos! It's always cool when you get things from someone unexpectedly. Thats how I got several of my 35mm cameras...lol. Happy Shooting my friend!!!
Holga is awesome with longe exposures!!! Have fun with it 😊
@@ShootOnFilm Thank you Ari, I sure will.
Ari I have one and the same lenses as you have, I also have the Bio 180mm lens. I use these lenses on my Kiev80 and Pentacon Six camera's as well. I get what you are saying, they have an aurora when you are using them.
There is something magical in these. The fact that they are very temperamental adds to the fascination 😊
This is a very informative video. But I was wondering if you could tell me the name of the lens. I love fisheye photography and having a medium format ultra wide that doesn’t cost 1500€(hasselblad swc) would be great. Thank you.
It's a Zodiak 8.
I'm not a fan of Soviet technology - their cameras are a bit like tractors in use, but they have good optics - lenses, often copies of Zeiss lenses can be considered good! And a lot of East German also fits... I don't have any 6x6 SLR, but I don't know if I would like it to be a Soviet camera. Maybe Kowa? I give up on Hassellblad - too expensive for me.
Great photos ❗🌟
Regards 😁
I hear you. They are pretty temperamental!!!
Today i was shooting in venice Italy. But it was little rainy day so i decided to leave my Rb in my car and shoot with my 35 OM10. i need to buy something lighter and less bulky 120 mm. Rb is good for studio and tripod, but for everything else is just pain in the ass😂
I love pain 😅. Seriously, weight becomes an issue if you need to walk long distances. Something I always forget.
For me, I like powerful cameras. The mount is compatible with Pentacon Six, but in the USSR the tolerances and fits were rougher than in the GDR. On the one hand, this degrades the quality in new cameras, on the other hand, currently very difficult to find a working Pentacon, they are more expensive, but you can find a lot of Kiev cameras in working state
True. They are plentiful!
Instead of Kiev, try the Pentacon 6. It will use the same type of lenses and it will work more reliably.
Possibly -- even though the common knowledge on the internet (which very often is wrong, I know) says that Pentacon Six is even more unreliable. I had one a long time ago, and it did not work at all ... so I think in the case of these cameras, unreliability is a part of the game :-)
The Kiev 60 was more or less an Ukrainian attempt to copy the East German Pentacon Six. Both cameras have virtually the same reliability and quality issues, but if you find a good copy, either of them can be a quite reliable work horse. I like the form factor of the Pentacon Six much more than that of the Kiev 60, and the Pentacon does weigh less than the Kievs. So when I'm out with my wheelchair for a photo session, I have - among other cameras - always two Pentacon Six cameras with Zeiss lenses on me, one with the 120mm Biometar and the other with the 50mm Flektogon, and one loaded with b&w film and the other with color film.
I also have an ARAX Hasselblad knock off, but I found, that this Pentacon combo with two bodies and two lenses take less space and less weight than the ARAX with two lenses and two backs. I also have a few other Russian and Carl Zeiss lenses for those cameras, but I rarely use them.
Ah yes - just to mention it: I never liked fish-eye lenses. I won't buy one oe use one ever.
I hear you. The fish eye is either in or out. You hate or love it. 😅
OK, I give up...what is the name of the background music?
I feel good - James Brown :-)
Don’t know who this ”Mikko Lehtonen” guy is but sounds like a pretty decent fellow!
He is a fine fella!
To me the whole film photography is a "feel good thing", something done because of the feeling, not because it offers any technical advantage and that's why I love old mechanical cameras. They feel and sound so different from modern digital ones, they have weight and that substantial feeling of something made to last compared to the light, toy-like feeling newer models. I don't care for the latest full auto plastic film cameras because they are too much like the digital ones. Film cameras and pictures taken on film also feel somehow more "real" than digital images in a computer.
I have a Kiev 88 and I really like it and have taken great pictures (by my standards anyway) with it, unfortunately it's started acting up. I think the mirror is sticking which causes the shutter to fire with a considerable delay and sometimes to completely fail to fire unless I tilt the camera downwards which of course means I get a picture of the ground. Don't know if I should try to fix it myself (which of course comes with a very real possibility I'll ruin it completely) or find someone to fix it. Unfortunately I don't know about anybody else who works on these cameras besides Arax and with them there's the trouble, cost and risk of shipping the camera to Ukraine and back.
For some reason I have always used the prism finder on the Kiev, even though I do have a waist level finder too. On the other hand on my Mamiya RB67 I practically always use the waist level finder even though I also do have a prism- and chimney finders for it. Maybe because the Kiev, even though not a lightweight, is still not too big or heavy to shoot from the eye-level while the Mamiya is about the size and weight of an anvil (and the prism finder adds considerably to it's weight and bulk) so it's easier to hold it against my chest, preferably supported by a strap, when shooting hand held.
Yes, the biggest challenge with these cameras are their temperament. They stop working for whatever reason. Whenever 😅
Thanks for sharing your unexplainable, Ari.
It is certainly strange, things you despise at one point, you end up liking later.
I despised Volvos, yet ended up loving them (240 series). I thought BMW boxer air-cooled twins were dorky, now I own one.
Unexplainable.
It is 😅
beautiful camera! I love all the different film camera! the Start 66 is cheaper for 6x6 format ;P at least I got mine (Start 66S) for less than 15 euros ;P
Yes, also, say, a Nettar is much cheaper. But then, this Kiev is a system with interchangeable lenses and all. As such, it's probably the cheapest you can find :-)
@@ShootOnFilm yes i agree.
you must try a Pentacon Six camera! the lenses are the same mount just get body! you will love it more than kiev
I've shot a few rolls with a Pentacon six. It is a nice camera, but .... :-)
Using my Kiev 60 makes me wonder if drinking vodka is a valid life choice. My zodiak 30mm gives me said vodka vision. Best to lay off, I think. I do like it when the frame spacing cooperates. I even have a Pentacon 6 body that I got in a package deal with a CZJ 80mm & 50mm Flek - I didn't buy that package for the camera!
I have a kiev 88 just because I wanted the Zodiak. You can use a 88 version with an adapter ring.
I really need to shoot my 6C (the one with the shutter button on the wrong side). It's said the 60 inherited all of the problems of the 6C ;-)
Like all eastern block things, cameras, cars whatever -- the new generation is always worse than the previous. It was the system, I believe ….😅
@@ShootOnFilm 😁😁😁
I find myself coping with the cognitive dissonance felt when choosing the struggles of film and vintage gear over the ease of a modern digital camera. I really do like my film photos better. I'm just not sure why. The overlapping frame problem on the Kiev could make for some happy 6x17 or triptych accidents. Imagine the cognitive dissonance justifying the wasted film trying to get a keeper that way.
I go through the same struggle myself. I think to myself if I could just afford to get a GFX for medium format it would be good enough to replace my 120 cameras. I stopped shooting 35mm film though and opted to just use my Z6. I found what I was looking for in medium format but it would be a big investment to see if the GFX would give me the same thing. For me shooting film and using 120 cameras is the best option for me. It helps I enjoy the results I get with film.
Frame spacing on my Kiev can make for a great 13 frame panorama.
'Feeling good' is a photographers problem.Using big, wonderful viewing and perfect exposures are a continent apart.. I had a Pentax 6x7. Reliable to a fault. The battery the Achiles Heel.! If voltage below 100%, it would not work. Off to a job, spare battery. Load film, 1st test exposure, mirror 1/2 way. New battery! OK spare battery. 2nd Exposure. You know the answer! Not enough power.. A shiny black and silver Rox case, extra lenses 2, Filters, spare film. It weighs a ton. Metric or Imperial. I have spare Rolleiflex inside. Automat! No F***** battery reqd. I load film, easily. It's an Automat. Now the viewfinder is great. My best composures. Except i go left, subject goes right. Pentax is a SLR, Pentaprism! Soon I'm busy shooting. Great exposures. Sharp, silent! The 6x7 like the famous Colt Peacemaker .44 ? speaks with Autority. If one uses a Hassie, you now the sounds effect. Echoing thru the church... The Rollie never fails. It's just so unsinspiring! Why? But one day, another continent, a sign that says Samy's and a great trade. I leave with a Leica M6TTL body, new in a box.. 3+ months later I've exposed more film and exposures than over 20 years of Fat Albert. The SLR. The Rollie stays! Loved your video. Bravo, we soldier on..
Ha ha!! I think battery operated cameras are designed by the devil himself!
@@ShootOnFilm so true! It's like the creepy part of digital. The umbilical cord tying us to the Alien mother ship..
Sadly, I believe Samy’s has closed down after all these years.
"You vell learn to love me, darling."
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