I'm pretty sure they didn't send the chopper to rio because all their helicopters were husy with the invasion on the Eastern seaboard which had just began
This is also possible, but keep in mind that TF141 went to Rio to prove that the attack was carried out by Makarov, returning TF141 would help end the war, and that's something Shepherd doesn't want, because he wants to be the hero, let's not forget that Shepherd was the one who started the war by sending Allen on the No Russian mission And if they can't send a chopper right now, it's because of what Shepherd did, You might like to watch these videos: Allen Was The First To Be Betrayed ruclips.net/video/nTN5Ti1vrAg/видео.html Shepherd Even Betrayed Makarov!! ruclips.net/video/639NJU7plCU/видео.html
Shepherd started many wars in Iraq since the USMC and Afghanistan Hotel Site Bravo, even financing shadow troops for his own work who knows how many were sacrificed
Yeah, the point is that Shepherd only cares about danger close when the danger is close to him. Everyone else, doesn’t matter if they’re US Army Rangers, CIA, TF 141, Shadow Co., they’re all cannon fodder.
@@CaptCovfefe515In Cod 4 he actually Cared about the Marines who was his Real army. He was Command. Completely different from Mw2 Shepard Pre Nuke which made him Insane. Right after it in Aftermath he was Saying Juliet.
@@hurricane7727 That’s actually totally fair. “Five years ago, I lost 30,000 men in the blink of an eye, and the world just fuckin’ watched.” The nuke changed him dramatically and I hadn’t thought about that despite all of MW2’s references to COD4, it being a sequel and all.
The first 2 reason don't hold up since they have explanations. With the Brazil mission, in the cutscene of hornet's nest you can see it says Brazil condemning the airport massa and in response denying the US airspace passage over Brazil which explains why TF141 being denied extraction. With the gulag mission, Shepard says "one man in the gulag doesn't mean much to the navy at this point" which is understandable since the US Navy is probably not happy being forced to use their assets on rescuing one man instead of being sent back the US mainland to defend the Russian invasion and explains why their being a little trigger happy destroying the gulag.
It's also entirely possible Shepard wasn't relaying information to the Navy and didn't even try to call off the bombardment in the hope it would kill tf141 and Price
The first two definitely hold up given the context of the missions. The whole set of Brazil missions take place after the airport incident, meaning that if the US were to respect any air travel sanctions put in place by Brazil, they would have never been there in the first place. As for the gulag mission, it is made clear that Shepherd was leading the counterattack on Russia. Under this leadership, it is the navy's top priority to follow his orders no matter what they think about them. They can't just blow up the gulag because they feel like it, especially if Shepherd specifically told them not to. It is definitely the case of Shepherd deliberately telling the navy to open fire or explicitly not giving the order to stop firing.
@@carterskindle7086i mean, why would he even respond to them if he expected them to die in the gulag? The warning for them to leave the gulag too because they started the bombardment?
Not tryna be boring or ruining the joke but he doesn’t make fun or wonder why his name is so weird,he just didn’t know that mactavish is also soap. So the comparison that he’s named worm doesn’t make sense
@@ryanvuljaj3767yeah but generals even those in charge of SF are usually desk jockeys too embroiled in politics to actually take part in fighting. I hate Shepard but I always respected the fact he can actually hold his own against two really badass operators,
@@Timboslice475Generals were soldiers once too. The reason why generals don’t take part in fighting is simply because they’re the head of command that give orders and aren’t really allowed to. If Generals get taken out, no one receives orders and then there’s chaos.
@@champ7139 soldiers but not necessarily frontline soldiers. In todays military, all it takes is someone who kisses enough asses and stays in a long time to become a general. Many of the higher ups I saw as a marine were dudes who just knew how to play politics rather than guys who were truly good leaders that I’d trust in battle.
@@Timboslice475 Well tbf we're living in a relative time of peace. There were times where soldiers were frontline combatants that rose through the ranks. Especially during the World Wars. Nowadays though yeah they're just going to kiss ass and play politics.
Shepherds first appearance in the campaign is him pushing a soldier onto an active battlefield without reguard for him. that tells you everything you need to know about shepherd
BadKarmaXx Thats obvious, higher rank is must on protected also guarded, either you and me in the same situation i would go back to bring shepherd into court military, poor ghost and roach are simple minded didnt aware it was setup just never ever trust the long range communication if the captain wasnt near us following on same mission, no split mission.
All Military is like that in Real Life for Privates. They Mostly Get Killed in Combat First ( Even applies to Dynasty Warriors Games unless You Help Fight with Them). Also bf3 Cole is a little worse than that. He only cared about Pronotion not even the lives of Allies( In Cod 4 Shepard actually cared about his allies pre Nuke).
It tells you that despite being a general; he's willing to to get down on the ground with his men. The reason he went mad is because he lost so many of his men and no one batted an eye
Five years ago I lost 30,000 men in the blink of an eye and the world just fucking watched that line from Shepherd still gives me goosebumps every time and was great writing.
As an Brazilian I've always seen the favela missions as some kind of joint operations between TF141 and local forces, because Meat and Royce talk portuguese to the civilians as they enter the favela. Knowing my country as I do, I've really thought that our corrupt command just used the task force to kill the drug dealers without having to get their hands dirty and let them by their own. But now I really see It as Shepherd trying to leave them to die, as he try to in all those other missions
Shephard tried to kill TF141, but in the end they killed him. Shephard was thorough though. He potentially got all but two members, Price and Soap. And in the end, they got him.
I saw on the villain fandom that before Modern Warfare, Sheperd was honorable until the death of his marines. Maybe he wasn’t alive to know that Makarov was responsible for killing his marines 5 years before MW2.
@@sd_justice_duty9564 I think the Nuke made him Insane( I think he should have been mentally checked not just Demoted from a 4 star to a Army General). Heck right after the Nuke He was Saying Juliet on the Comms in the Aftermath mission. I remeber in my Jrotc Class we watched a Movie that showed the Effects of War and A Former Soldier had Ptsd and Thought he was still Fighting in that war though he was Home.
mw4 Shepherd was really a good guy. Until Makarov set those nukes off. Killing 30,000 men which made him insane and couldn't handle it much longer. Shepherd then sends Allen to Russia to get on Makarovs good side by committing mass murder at the airport. Makarov kills Allen then Russia invades the U.S. TF141 goes to Rio to prove Makarov did that airport attack which would end the war. Shepherd didn't want to end the war cause he wanted to do it for himself. Shepherd sends TF141 to 2 spots bone yard and Makarovs villa. Shepherd wanted to make up for everything that has happened.
I think it might've been best if Captain MacTavish went with Roach to Makarov's villa and Captain Price with Ghost to the boneyard, since the Captains have more skills to survive a heavily armed attack and could've protected them.
@@TruthSeeker23099 It's not about the story. Like I said, the Captains are highly trained to survive a heavily armed attack. If one had went in with Roach or Ghost in different locations, they could've survived the attack head on and without any cover.
Ive played this gulag misson for many years and i always found it strange that the navy kept air striking the gulug knowing soap and his team were in there im like they do know they have Friendly's still.
If you think about it, the navy is wasting their resources just to save one man from the gulag. Which explains why they are a bit trigger happy with the gulag. This is also the same exact time when Russia and other forces start to invade the us. Shepard wants to focus on the invasion but tf141 is insisting on saving on guy from the gulag.
Bro I’ve just played the mission “ the only easy day was yesterday” (oil rigs one) and in the briefing Shepard says that “he s probably sending them to death right now” or smth like that. So 1 more time technically. And it’s a good video, interesting how on the first walkthrough u don’t even pay attention to these situations and accept them as natural circumstances
0:06 this might be a theory that alejandro rojas is alejandro vargas in the mw reboot maybe there could be a theory when alejandro gets captured they forced him to join and kill shadow company and shepherd
God the original Modern Warfare trilogy was just so good. MW2 is by far my favorite. Such a shame they decided to reboot them instead of making a new trilogy.
Always found it funny how Soap is like "This belongs to you, Sir" And hands Price a pistol. When he already has an Ak-47. Like I think his AK is way better than a pistol 😂
Those first 2 are just straight up accusations lmao. It's explained in the game why command didn't send a chopper to pick up TF141, and why the Navy kept firing on the Gulag. 1. Command's scanners and/or satellites had either been hacked, jammed, or malfunctioned. Command's map was showing hostile aircraft in areas where there was none, and not showing any in areas where they were swarming. Hence why in the mission opening command was calling a bunch of USA units asking if they were under attack, but the only one that was actually under attack was the only one that the scanners showed no enemy aircraft at all. Command thought there was a bunch of enemy aircraft in 141's area, so they denied Ghost's request. 2. Shepherd says many times that he's trying to negotiate with the Navy but they're not listening to him. He was able to buy them time but the Nazy was insistent on continuing their attack. Shepherd doesn't control the Nazy.
Well obviously there’s gonna be accusations after what Shepherd had done. You have to look at past missions and pay attention to the details and dialogue. The navy one is simple; Shepherd probably just told them to fire early to make it look like they started first when really he gave the order to
He did control the Navy I think as well in Call of Duty 4. He was Command and I think pre Shock and Awe Mission he was a Higher Rank than a Army General. I think he was a Four Star General so he had Command over all military forces
Those first 2 times weren’t really on him. They couldn’t get a chopper to Rio because of the surprise invasion of the US mainland, and the Navy didn’t really care about one guy when their country was under attack.
Shepard is literally using tf141 to trace down makarov, after they secure the dsm is when the use of tf141 is up for him, probably after the rescuing of price and his actions with a nuke did Shepard decide tf141 was a liability for him
At 1:47 Post Shock and Awe Shepard doesnt have the Respect and Power He had in the Shock and Awe Mission where he Commanded All Branches. I think ever since the Nuke He even Lost Respect and Rank
OG MW 2 Shepherd was built different. Bro was on the front lines to yank Allen on his feet, called fire missions danger close, and then beat the shit out of Price and Soap in hand combat.
1:18 but the f-15s bombarded the gulag were not operated by the us navy, only usaf. The us navy somehow bombarded the gulag using submarines armed with cruise missiles like tomahawk
The chopper not showing up to the Favela had *nothing* to do with Shepherd. That was a matter of Soap and Roach being too late recovering that ACS Module from the Russians, and both the 141 and US's air space was being contested with reports of hostile air force, to which most units were confused and reporting negative contact.
I also like to think he was killing them negligently in Team Player. They were the unamed Task Force near the building the airstrike dropped before the convoy ride
dude he is lying to in "no russian" episode i mean he was say "makarov is money dog he is not care about nation or any idea" but makarov is in airport and was say "for zakhaev"
I think the first 2 don’t count because: in Takedown due to the war erupting in the U.S; none of the men appear to be aware of it, and Ghost felt they were abandoned. And in the Gulag, The Navy just wanted to What happened to it already Especially because Shepherd said that one man in the Gulag didn’t mean anything to them and that they were not in a talkative mood right now
He really thought he can take out an elite fighting group whose members are handpicked from different already elite special units. Which means, these guys are the best of the best.
Shepherd actually wouldn't have any command over the Navy. Different branches of the military. Rivalries exist a *lot* between the branches, and considering he's using them to save *one* man instead of protecting the US it makes sense that they wouldn't be taking his suggestions. Because even with his reputation, being an Army general means that's all it would be, suggestions.
Just one question (it's been a while): why would Shepherd want them dead that early? At Loose Ends, it makes sense; he has the DSM and basically everything he needs to become a hero and get away with what he did to achieve that, so he no longer needs TF141. But why would he try to kill TF141 as early as the Brazil missions when they would end up being useful for retrieving one of the things he needed most?
what about the first mission in Afghanistan where Allen and the other Rangers were about to ride the humvees?, when the building (TF 141 is there) there is going to be exploded by Shepherd's danger close, ad there is a Ranger asked "isnt it a danger close for the task force" then the other answered? "cmon, since when does Shepherd cares about danger close?"?
Shepherd attacked ghost, soap, price, and roach for something they couldn’t help with. Roach was probably in training in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 soap and pride where in Russia 🇷🇺 and ghost was probably in Mexico 🇲🇽 or the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 when they where in Iraq
Shepherd was a real butthead & a very selfish, dangerous man. Everything he did was all about him. That's why he deserved his punishment at the end of MW2.
Excuse me from swearing, But i had no fuckin’ idea that this damn U.S general was trying to use his private army to kill a British Task force.. and yet, at the end 2 former SAS operators killed a general and left his dead body in the sand. A true betrayer, and a dick move. 141 is da best
honestly I think the only time he tried was the time where he actually killed them in Loose Ends. doing so any sooner wouldve been pointless for him. at the time the 141 was made up of some of the best elite operatives in the western world and were proven too valuable to dispose of just yet. once he got the blank check from the Pentagon, he had all the funding and resources in the world which he used to bolster up his private army that were steadfast loyal to him and him alone and then at that point he didnt need the 141 anymore. and since they were no longer needed, it was time to cut loose ends. and by even then after his betrayal they didnt know why he betrayed them until later on
@@cryptozex9192 Ironically Him, Sgt Paul Jackson, Vasquez( I know he's Alive in the New Universe since in codm he has the same Voice actor from Cod 4 so maybe he's a apart of the marines
To me number 2 always was moreso a case of the US Navy were so bloodthirsty for revenge against the Russians for invading their country and indiscriminately massacring both soldiers and civilians alike, they probably were so clouded and blinded by revenge they immediately told Shepherd to fuck off. I mean put yourself in the shoes of the US Navy as well, if you got news while on deployment out at sea that Russia invaded your country mere hours ago and was not only massacring soldiers but also civilians too, wouldn’t you want revenge too and basically tell anyone saying otherwise to fuck off?
Sgt Paul Jackson had it Worse in Cod 4. He got hit with a Nuke and Helicopter Crash and Suffered Radiation Poisoning and we could hear his Heart beat and then Died
The Last Fight Was Better In The Very First Game, Wasn't It????! But In This One Price Has Fought Better Than He Did In The Other One Which Was Of Course Won By Shepherd Who Got Murdered By Soap!!! Isn't Weird That Right After Being Hit By Price's Right Knee Upon The Chin, Shepherd Somehow Manages To Dodge Price's Five Blow/Hit?????!!!!!!!!
@@donutsorokin8042 Sandman was depicted as delta force in operation kingfish and he was never seen working with 141 in mw2 so that means he was never apart of 141.
The remaster really messes up a lot of key scenes. The knife throw ending for example is completely ruined - the new animations are worse, the music is out of sync, etc. Plus, the character models look worse too.
I'm pretty sure they didn't send the chopper to rio because all their helicopters were husy with the invasion on the Eastern seaboard which had just began
One chopper means not much
It’s just an excuse not to arrange
This is also possible, but keep in mind that TF141 went to Rio to prove that the attack was carried out by Makarov, returning TF141 would help end the war, and that's something Shepherd doesn't want, because he wants to be the hero, let's not forget that Shepherd was the one who started the war by sending Allen on the No Russian mission And if they can't send a chopper right now, it's because of what Shepherd did, You might like to watch these videos:
Allen Was The First To Be Betrayed
ruclips.net/video/nTN5Ti1vrAg/видео.html
Shepherd Even Betrayed Makarov!!
ruclips.net/video/639NJU7plCU/видео.html
Shepherd started many wars in Iraq since the USMC and Afghanistan Hotel Site Bravo, even financing shadow troops for his own work who knows how many were sacrificed
No matter what Nikolai Comes in clutch
I’m pretty sure the first time doesn’t even count
"Since when does Shepherd care about danger close"
I think that line was said in the first mission
Yeah, the point is that Shepherd only cares about danger close when the danger is close to him. Everyone else, doesn’t matter if they’re US Army Rangers, CIA, TF 141, Shadow Co., they’re all cannon fodder.
@@CaptCovfefe515In Cod 4 he actually Cared about the Marines who was his Real army. He was Command. Completely different from Mw2 Shepard Pre Nuke which made him Insane. Right after it in Aftermath he was Saying Juliet.
@@hurricane7727 That’s actually totally fair. “Five years ago, I lost 30,000 men in the blink of an eye, and the world just fuckin’ watched.” The nuke changed him dramatically and I hadn’t thought about that despite all of MW2’s references to COD4, it being a sequel and all.
And that was in response to him ordering an airstrike next to or on "the task force" which I assume was 141
*Bloody yanks, i though they were the good guys*
the first foreshadowing we didn't knew
The first 2 reason don't hold up since they have explanations.
With the Brazil mission, in the cutscene of hornet's nest you can see it says Brazil condemning the airport massa and in response denying the US airspace passage over Brazil which explains why TF141 being denied extraction.
With the gulag mission, Shepard says "one man in the gulag doesn't mean much to the navy at this point" which is understandable since the US Navy is probably not happy being forced to use their assets on rescuing one man instead of being sent back the US mainland to defend the Russian invasion and explains why their being a little trigger happy destroying the gulag.
It's also entirely possible Shepard wasn't relaying information to the Navy and didn't even try to call off the bombardment in the hope it would kill tf141 and Price
The first two definitely hold up given the context of the missions. The whole set of Brazil missions take place after the airport incident, meaning that if the US were to respect any air travel sanctions put in place by Brazil, they would have never been there in the first place.
As for the gulag mission, it is made clear that Shepherd was leading the counterattack on Russia. Under this leadership, it is the navy's top priority to follow his orders no matter what they think about them. They can't just blow up the gulag because they feel like it, especially if Shepherd specifically told them not to. It is definitely the case of Shepherd deliberately telling the navy to open fire or explicitly not giving the order to stop firing.
@@carterskindle7086i mean, why would he even respond to them if he expected them to die in the gulag? The warning for them to leave the gulag too because they started the bombardment?
@@sanderjin1928cause it’d be a lil sus if he DIDN’T respond
Eh. Okay
"Whose soap?" - the guy named worm
'Whose tf's "Worm" ' - The guy nicknamed Soap.
What the hell kinda name is worm?
Aye we love Worm.
😂😂😂😂@@IWillYeah
Not tryna be boring or ruining the joke but he doesn’t make fun or wonder why his name is so weird,he just didn’t know that mactavish is also soap. So the comparison that he’s named worm doesn’t make sense
Let’s just admire the fact shepherd got hands fr. Bro going toe to toe with Tier one guys basically the best in the world. 😂
Well he is their general
@@ryanvuljaj3767yeah but generals even those in charge of SF are usually desk jockeys too embroiled in politics to actually take part in fighting. I hate Shepard but I always respected the fact he can actually hold his own against two really badass operators,
@@Timboslice475Generals were soldiers once too. The reason why generals don’t take part in fighting is simply because they’re the head of command that give orders and aren’t really allowed to. If Generals get taken out, no one receives orders and then there’s chaos.
@@champ7139 soldiers but not necessarily frontline soldiers. In todays military, all it takes is someone who kisses enough asses and stays in a long time to become a general. Many of the higher ups I saw as a marine were dudes who just knew how to play politics rather than guys who were truly good leaders that I’d trust in battle.
@@Timboslice475 Well tbf we're living in a relative time of peace. There were times where soldiers were frontline combatants that rose through the ranks. Especially during the World Wars. Nowadays though yeah they're just going to kiss ass and play politics.
Shepherds first appearance in the campaign is him pushing a soldier onto an active battlefield without reguard for him. that tells you everything you need to know about shepherd
BadKarmaXx Thats obvious, higher rank is must on protected also guarded, either you and me in the same situation i would go back to bring shepherd into court military, poor ghost and roach are simple minded didnt aware it was setup just never ever trust the long range communication if the captain wasnt near us following on same mission, no split mission.
All Military is like that in Real Life for Privates. They Mostly Get Killed in Combat First ( Even applies to Dynasty Warriors Games unless You Help Fight with Them). Also bf3 Cole is a little worse than that. He only cared about Pronotion not even the lives of Allies( In Cod 4 Shepard actually cared about his allies pre Nuke).
It tells you that despite being a general; he's willing to to get down on the ground with his men.
The reason he went mad is because he lost so many of his men and no one batted an eye
Five years ago I lost 30,000 men in the blink of an eye and the world just fucking watched that line from Shepherd still gives me goosebumps every time and was great writing.
The Nuke Scene was in Call of Duty 4
As an Brazilian I've always seen the favela missions as some kind of joint operations between TF141 and local forces, because Meat and Royce talk portuguese to the civilians as they enter the favela. Knowing my country as I do, I've really thought that our corrupt command just used the task force to kill the drug dealers without having to get their hands dirty and let them by their own. But now I really see It as Shepherd trying to leave them to die, as he try to in all those other missions
Shephard tried to kill TF141, but in the end they killed him. Shephard was thorough though. He potentially got all but two members, Price and Soap. And in the end, they got him.
No, some other members did survive but it's not told how many of the 141 are left
Shepard got the assist with soap 😂
He also didn’t got Nikolai
When the COD campaings had good writing.
I rather like to say that they were not a lengthy setup to a battle royale season
Ummm if you say so
@@adrianb714 He's right, the newer ones (even MWII) have dropped the ball when it comes to writing.
Tho at least MWII had good stuff.
Literally.
@@adrianb714your just a kid. You don’t know anything about a good cod
I never realized Shepherd tried to kill TF141 before he revealed his true nature.
It's always interesting to uncover those hidden details in the storyline!
Rip Cod 4 pre Nuke Shepard. He was much Different than this Shepard
I saw on the villain fandom that before Modern Warfare, Sheperd was honorable until the death of his marines.
Maybe he wasn’t alive to know that Makarov was responsible for killing his marines 5 years before MW2.
@@sd_justice_duty9564 I think the Nuke made him Insane( I think he should have been mentally checked not just Demoted from a 4 star to a Army General). Heck right after the Nuke He was Saying Juliet on the Comms in the Aftermath mission. I remeber in my Jrotc Class we watched a Movie that showed the Effects of War and A Former Soldier had Ptsd and Thought he was still Fighting in that war though he was Home.
mw4 Shepherd was really a good guy. Until Makarov set those nukes off. Killing 30,000 men which made him insane and couldn't handle it much longer. Shepherd then sends Allen to Russia to get on Makarovs good side by committing mass murder at the airport. Makarov kills Allen then Russia invades the U.S. TF141 goes to Rio to prove Makarov did that airport attack which would end the war. Shepherd didn't want to end the war cause he wanted to do it for himself. Shepherd sends TF141 to 2 spots bone yard and Makarovs villa. Shepherd wanted to make up for everything that has happened.
“He tried to kill Ghost and Roach”
Tried 😞
i bawled my eyes out when ghost died
I think it might've been best if Captain MacTavish went with Roach to Makarov's villa and Captain Price with Ghost to the boneyard, since the Captains have more skills to survive a heavily armed attack and could've protected them.
Always thought why didn't any of the captain go
Because the story didn’t…want soap to die there
@@TruthSeeker23099 if a captain was there shepherd would have died
@@TruthSeeker23099 It's not about the story. Like I said, the Captains are highly trained to survive a heavily armed attack. If one had went in with Roach or Ghost in different locations, they could've survived the attack head on and without any cover.
@@ANIMEFAN-ym6tc if you say so lol
Ive played this gulag misson for many years and i always found it strange that the navy kept air striking the gulug knowing soap and his team were in there im like they do know they have Friendly's still.
Honestly who knows maybe the so called navy jet fighter(s) was actually a shadow company member but that's just my theory
If you think about it, the navy is wasting their resources just to save one man from the gulag. Which explains why they are a bit trigger happy with the gulag. This is also the same exact time when Russia and other forces start to invade the us. Shepard wants to focus on the invasion but tf141 is insisting on saving on guy from the gulag.
when you are so good at taking on armies you can get stranded behind enemy lines and have to question if they expected you to die or simply survive
You know for a general he really handled a 2 v 1 in hand to hand combat really well
It was more 1 v 1.3, soap is limping from the fall and the stab leaves em just tryna use price as a distraction
Well they don't give general ranks for no reason
In the Gulag mission it's quite obvious, whole operation was set to find 627, but Shepherd went: "One man isn't important".
Technically Shepard did succeed in killing Soap because it was his knife wound reopening that killed him.
Yeeeaah but soap killed him first😁
Bro really said : My mates sucks i'll do it myself 🤣
The writing in this game is so good “ghost cut the chatter stay frosty” it’s so clean and has good character in almost everything they say
Bro I’ve just played the mission “ the only easy day was yesterday” (oil rigs one) and in the briefing Shepard says that “he s probably sending them to death right now” or smth like that. So 1 more time technically.
And it’s a good video, interesting how on the first walkthrough u don’t even pay attention to these situations and accept them as natural circumstances
Look up Cod4 pre Shock and Awe Shepard aka Command. He actually was Different than mw2 version
His 30,000 men were not nuked back then@@hurricane7727
Price lost the 70% of his power the moment his hat fell off
0:06 this might be a theory that alejandro rojas is alejandro vargas in the mw reboot maybe there could be a theory when alejandro gets captured they forced him to join and kill shadow company and shepherd
Or maybe he wanted to have a little Payback on the people that captured his men, His base and tried to kill His mates
obviously always knew that Seppard was bad from the turn on Estate but never realized he was trying to kill the 141 along the way, great video!
God the original Modern Warfare trilogy was just so good. MW2 is by far my favorite. Such a shame they decided to reboot them instead of making a new trilogy.
Always found it funny how Soap is like "This belongs to you, Sir" And hands Price a pistol. When he already has an Ak-47. Like I think his AK is way better than a pistol 😂
The pistol originally belonged to Price, It's the same pistol Price slides to you at the end of the first MW game.
@@lunkycultist5519 I understand. It was just my attempt at a joke 😂
Those first 2 are just straight up accusations lmao. It's explained in the game why command didn't send a chopper to pick up TF141, and why the Navy kept firing on the Gulag.
1. Command's scanners and/or satellites had either been hacked, jammed, or malfunctioned. Command's map was showing hostile aircraft in areas where there was none, and not showing any in areas where they were swarming. Hence why in the mission opening command was calling a bunch of USA units asking if they were under attack, but the only one that was actually under attack was the only one that the scanners showed no enemy aircraft at all. Command thought there was a bunch of enemy aircraft in 141's area, so they denied Ghost's request.
2. Shepherd says many times that he's trying to negotiate with the Navy but they're not listening to him. He was able to buy them time but the Nazy was insistent on continuing their attack. Shepherd doesn't control the Nazy.
Well obviously there’s gonna be accusations after what Shepherd had done. You have to look at past missions and pay attention to the details and dialogue. The navy one is simple; Shepherd probably just told them to fire early to make it look like they started first when really he gave the order to
He did control the Navy I think as well in Call of Duty 4. He was Command and I think pre Shock and Awe Mission he was a Higher Rank than a Army General. I think he was a Four Star General so he had Command over all military forces
@@hurricane7727 He doesn't, Shepherd is a 3 star general in Mw2.
@@irondragondxd3836 cod 4 I think was higher ranked because he had command of all branches in shock and Awe
Nazy, Nazi + Navy = Nazy lolol
Back when cod was good. Never knew about all these times he tried to kill them.
Those first 2 times weren’t really on him. They couldn’t get a chopper to Rio because of the surprise invasion of the US mainland, and the Navy didn’t really care about one guy when their country was under attack.
Shepard is literally using tf141 to trace down makarov, after they secure the dsm is when the use of tf141 is up for him, probably after the rescuing of price and his actions with a nuke did Shepard decide tf141 was a liability for him
I didn't sign up for seeing Ghost and Roach's death for the 1927272773728th time and drown on my own tears again but cool video anyway
All of the moments before shepherd killed roach and ghost showed early signs that he was going to betray us
At 1:47 Post Shock and Awe Shepard doesnt have the Respect and Power He had in the Shock and Awe Mission where he Commanded All Branches. I think ever since the Nuke He even Lost Respect and Rank
OG MW 2 Shepherd was built different. Bro was on the front lines to yank Allen on his feet, called fire missions danger close, and then beat the shit out of Price and Soap in hand combat.
After knowing that Makarov was responsible for killing Shepherd's 30000 soldiers
I hope PRICE felt sorry for Shepherd
Uhm no
No
He sure understands him but he ain't feeling sorry for him after what he did
Shepards r United state army general why is it personal for him about the 30,000 marines
Wow, never really thought about that like this.
"No he's not" When calmness and bravery come together :O
1:18 but the f-15s bombarded the gulag were not operated by the us navy, only usaf. The us navy somehow bombarded the gulag using submarines armed with cruise missiles like tomahawk
That F-15 was probably an oversight by the devs, they should’ve used F-14’s
@@BreadPittAAAAHHHH or the new f/a-18e/f super hornets as depicted in CoD ghosts
The ending is still masterpiece with, with that epic song
3:23 rook somehow died by soap's empty mag
Since when does shepherd care about danger close? 😂😂
I like how the first reasons were based off Coincidence, till later you realize that’s probably not the case
The chopper not showing up to the Favela had *nothing* to do with Shepherd. That was a matter of Soap and Roach being too late recovering that ACS Module from the Russians, and both the 141 and US's air space was being contested with reports of hostile air force, to which most units were confused and reporting negative contact.
Good story. Subtle nods to the twist
I also like to think he was killing them negligently in Team Player. They were the unamed Task Force near the building the airstrike dropped before the convoy ride
dude he is lying to in "no russian" episode i mean he was say "makarov is money dog he is not care about nation or any idea" but makarov is in airport and was say "for zakhaev"
zakhaev was leader of ultranationalist
That's Shephard's pov and we don't find out that Makarov and Zakhaev are close until MW3.
Zakhaev was the Leader of the Ultra Nationalists and even with the Nuke in Cod 4 I feel he was giving Makarov Orders to do it
I think the first 2 don’t count because: in Takedown due to the war erupting in the U.S; none of the men appear to be aware of it, and Ghost felt they were abandoned. And in the Gulag, The Navy just wanted to What happened to it already Especially because Shepherd said that one man in the Gulag didn’t mean anything to them and that they were not in a talkative mood right now
The navy one doesn't make sense. You still don't just fire in a building filled with friendlies that are inside. Trigger happy or not
He really thought he can take out an elite fighting group whose members are handpicked from different already elite special units. Which means, these guys are the best of the best.
4:43 I forgot I was even watching a video about how many times shepherd tried to kill them, I was just watching the cinematic and gameplay
Shepherd actually wouldn't have any command over the Navy. Different branches of the military. Rivalries exist a *lot* between the branches, and considering he's using them to save *one* man instead of protecting the US it makes sense that they wouldn't be taking his suggestions.
Because even with his reputation, being an Army general means that's all it would be, suggestions.
Shepherd doesn't care about 3 friends was shoot by Brazilian in car as driver and 2 man down
I had money and had a decision to buy the og mw2 or the remastered mw2. I choose the og one of course
Thanks for sharing your choice! OG MW2 holds a special place in many gamers' hearts.
Man shepherd really succeeded in the favela, that mission kicked my ass
5 years ago i lost 30,000 eyes in the blink of a man and the world just 🦆 ing laughed
Just one question (it's been a while): why would Shepherd want them dead that early? At Loose Ends, it makes sense; he has the DSM and basically everything he needs to become a hero and get away with what he did to achieve that, so he no longer needs TF141. But why would he try to kill TF141 as early as the Brazil missions when they would end up being useful for retrieving one of the things he needed most?
No matter how many times he tried to kill us he is still a legend
He's not , he killed my homie ghost and roach 😭
@@Ghostyy_PL Agreed, a legend didnt betray his comrade, what a fool 🤡
Real legends like price and woods.
I never understood how Shepard, a general who presumably hasn't been in the field for years could beat up two active special forces soldiers.
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Ah yes, The Gulag mission is what Shepherd hinting about the betrayal of TF141.
The first two are doubtful. It's only after 141 focused on ending the war over killing Makarov is when Shepherd betrayed them.
what about the first mission in Afghanistan where Allen and the other Rangers were about to ride the humvees?, when the building (TF 141 is there) there is going to be exploded by Shepherd's danger close, ad there is a Ranger asked "isnt it a danger close for the task force" then the other answered? "cmon, since when does Shepherd cares about danger close?"?
Shepherd here looks like more of a German than American. Lmao
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classic cod bad guys: he’s dead leave him!
new cod good guys: he’s dead leave him!
Shepherd attacked ghost, soap, price, and roach for something they couldn’t help with. Roach was probably in training in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 soap and pride where in Russia 🇷🇺 and ghost was probably in Mexico 🇲🇽 or the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 when they where in Iraq
Everything is better except for the knife throw in the remaster.
Shepherd was always an arrogant. He wanted to be a hero and didn't even care for the men under his command.
Shepherd wondered, how long could it take to kill 2 people 😂😂
Can someone remind what shepherds motives were? Why he did what he did
Shepherd was a real butthead & a very selfish, dangerous man. Everything he did was all about him. That's why he deserved his punishment at the end of MW2.
THE BEST COD CAMPAIGN EVER
Why the fuck did they turn Soap into Ghost Jr in the newer ones
Excuse me from swearing,
But i had no fuckin’ idea that this damn U.S general was trying to use his private army to kill a British Task force.. and yet, at the end 2 former SAS operators killed a general and left his dead body in the sand.
A true betrayer, and a dick move.
141 is da best
Cod 4 Shepard Pre Shock and Awe was actually a Different Person.
honestly I think the only time he tried was the time where he actually killed them in Loose Ends. doing so any sooner wouldve been pointless for him. at the time the 141 was made up of some of the best elite operatives in the western world and were proven too valuable to dispose of just yet. once he got the blank check from the Pentagon, he had all the funding and resources in the world which he used to bolster up his private army that were steadfast loyal to him and him alone and then at that point he didnt need the 141 anymore. and since they were no longer needed, it was time to cut loose ends. and by even then after his betrayal they didnt know why he betrayed them until later on
What's really messed up is Roach was burned alive instead of getting mercy killed with a headshot
And He's Nowhere to be Seen in the New Cod Mw Universe.
@@hurricane7727lowkey happy he’s not. New cod universe sucks. They had something going with MW2019 and MWII but ruined it with MWIII ngl
@@cryptozex9192 Ironically Him, Sgt Paul Jackson, Vasquez( I know he's Alive in the New Universe since in codm he has the same Voice actor from Cod 4 so maybe he's a apart of the marines
"Who's Soap? " 😂😂😂
To me number 2 always was moreso a case of the US Navy were so bloodthirsty for revenge against the Russians for invading their country and indiscriminately massacring both soldiers and civilians alike, they probably were so clouded and blinded by revenge they immediately told Shepherd to fuck off. I mean put yourself in the shoes of the US Navy as well, if you got news while on deployment out at sea that Russia invaded your country mere hours ago and was not only massacring soldiers but also civilians too, wouldn’t you want revenge too and basically tell anyone saying otherwise to fuck off?
Call of duty used to be a masterpiece
Well written and acted.
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@QueenFury begging for get shredded *
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I'll be always sorry for Ghost and Roach, they deserved to die like heroes, not like trash
Sgt Paul Jackson had it Worse in Cod 4. He got hit with a Nuke and Helicopter Crash and Suffered Radiation Poisoning and we could hear his Heart beat and then Died
How come you never talk about the Nuke in Cod 4? Pre Nuke Cod 4 Shepard was actually Very different from his Mw2 Version.
Didn't they literally block all transports outbound from the US?
I knew shepherd was up to something
Soap: You’re full of shit Shepard
It all makes sense now
You kinda forget just how badly COD leans into the "One Great Man" conspiracy until they start openly spouting crackpot shit.
Shepherd is the reskin of ct price but way more loyal
Wait what the comment was supposed to say ct price is the reskin of shepherd but way more loyal and better
@@colleenopalenik1272Shepard was loyal in Call of Duty 4 before The Nuke
Ghost is survived
He tray in all missions starting a snow line
The Last Fight Was Better In The Very First Game, Wasn't It????! But In This One Price Has Fought Better Than He Did In The Other One Which Was Of Course Won By Shepherd Who Got Murdered By Soap!!! Isn't Weird That Right After Being Hit By Price's Right Knee Upon The Chin, Shepherd Somehow Manages To Dodge Price's Five Blow/Hit?????!!!!!!!!
Bro calm down, the script was in Shepherd's favor all along, thats it
And he did kill 141 to the very last men
Almost, actually; Nikolai and price managed to make It out alive
Then there was Sandman, that died covering price from makarov's men
@@donutsorokin8042Sandman isn't apart of 141
@@Strain117 he was, he even wore a 141 uniform during His last misión
He most likely returned to the delta force when the 141 was disolved
@@donutsorokin8042 Sandman was depicted as delta force in operation kingfish and he was never seen working with 141 in mw2 so that means he was never apart of 141.
Knowing the delete ending scene Price died or na it doesn’t confirm the only evidence is the cigar which fell of his mouth
This Shepard was awesome. Armchair Shepard is fuckin useless
God i love Modern Warfare 2
Shepherd is a stupid fool to betray TF141 also did shepherd betray the us army rangers aswell or just TF141
2:41😭😭😭
if MW2 Remastered is completed, why not release MW3 Remastered instead damn Activision and Infinity Ward
Good thing price never trusted him
The remaster really messes up a lot of key scenes. The knife throw ending for example is completely ruined - the new animations are worse, the music is out of sync, etc. Plus, the character models look worse too.
What are you talking about it literally looks fine???
@@sumomanify they're completely different. I literally explained in detail what the differences/downgrades are.
Wtf are YOU talking about???
@@Jellybob69 the animations look good, the music isn't out of sync,
That's where you confuse me
2:40 me in helldivers 2 killing my mates, taking the samples and kicking the lobby (you cannot stop me)
Damn so he wasn’t shiit from the beginning 😐