BLUETTI PORTABLE POWER STATIONS AC60 portable power station: bit.ly/4443whp B80 expansion battery: bit.ly/3JcFrN6 AC180 portable power station: bit.ly/3qLDEIL **Get an extra $20 off the AC60 using code "JohnAC60" until June 22.
My experience with the Bluetti EB70 (716Wh) and a 200W monocrystalline folding solar panel of decent quality, is that I can run my 90l Dual Zone camp fridge, with one zone on freezer and one zone on fridge. And in summer I can run the fridge indefinitely with that setup. Anyone looking at Bluetti for camping will not be disappointed. Probably a good idea now that it is winter to run the same test again.
Interesting, Matt - thanks for sharing. It would be interesting to re-test in winter. Less sun, so less power in from the PV, but also less drain due to less delta-T.
@@AutoExpertJC the fridge was in the hottest room in the house also. Uninsulated brick veneer wall with full afternoon sun. I'll do the test in the same room. Panel in the same spot.
Had a smaller unit for 3 months and does the job beautifully with great build quality. This will be the future of power at home and in time remove any dependence on the grid.
I've got 2 of the Bluetti AC2000, great units and have saved me hundreds of dollars when the house power goes out by keeping the fridges running. I also use one as a weight lift exercise tool. Multiple use devices, cannot beat that.
I just bought one of these, AC 200 max, with 3 x solar panels, it’s provided 100% of my home electrical power for the last 3 weeks. OK, so I live alone in a 1 bed apartment plus it’s summer here in UK right now so prob won’t manage through the winter, but Very happy with my Bluetti 👍🏻
Thanks, John & Bluetti, for these reviews. Bluetti's always improving its line-up for the different needs & capabilities of potential customers. The AC60 & B80 combo is ideal for the elderly as having them in each hand means that steps or uneven ground can be clearly seen when moving around, which makes it way safer. 👍 As you mentioned, the side weight distribution is less strain on the back, a major plus for anyone with back pain issues. The earthing capability is essential in my world. I never use power tools with an earth-leakage breaker. It's just not worth the risk.
I got one to use as a second battery for my maverick camper v2 limited. Because I could use it for the solar panels, then using bluette 60 to 24 v to the camper. This will support the AGM battery so it's doesn't over load it. Also if I need that short use of high energy tools or eg coffee machine. Plus I don't need to mode my camper to save money. Thanks John and the discount.
The ac 180 now has a cable for $30 which will allow you to hook up any Bluetti battery pack,the B80 all the way up to the 3000 watt which will give you 4100 watt system.
Both are great units but the AC180 can do it all, I have run Induction Hobs and 1600w Air Fryers and Microwaves and kettles from them and they will even run SWMBO's Hair Dryer, So whether it is for Camping or Off Grid or unexpected Blackouts the AC180 will do it all, The AC60 + the B80 can do it too except run the big power Appliances, But I can find enough reasons for me to own both systems, Both are very portable and will get you through Storms and Blackouts and give the kids something to do by running their Xbox etc, In short these two Sogens are just Game Changers, Thanks John.
I’d love one for my camper, just too far out of my budget. That’s not to say they’re over priced, I think they’re amazing. Just out of my reach unfortunately.
Wouldn’t mind one of these for the van and as home backup. I have a generator change over switch that I plug my little Honda generator and it powers the house. Would AC180 or 200 work in the same way? Obviously keeping within the inverter output.
Hi John My name is Steve I have a couple of quick questions I’d like to ask you about the Bluetti AC60. Firstly my wife and I like camping ( without a caravan) would the AC60 last several days just running a 60lt fridge, some low wattage lights and a couple of 240v battery chargers? It would be able to be charged for a few hours via the car each day. And secondly if it is capable of doing that job as believe it would be then I am willing to put myself out and do a long term product review for both yourself and Bluetti at no cost, would that be of interest? Thank you for your time. Steve
hey John, pretty keen on one of these beautis... given that you have a shitload already, happy to take an earlier model off your hands, pick up of course :) Frank
The more I see of these Bluettis (that doesn't look right as spelt) and similar brands, the more I like the idea. The price is a bit to swallow, but if I could just find enough use to justify it.
Can the B80 be charged off solar itself? Like if you were to use it as a base camp to run a fridge and charge off solar while I'm off with the A60? And then could you also recharge the A60 later back at camp?
Just buy a portable jump pack. Keep it charged to about 80% (not 100%, to preserve the battery), and carry it with you always. You can help yourself and help others. *_Project Farm_* has a couple of good shootouts of these products.
These units do not have a neutral / earth link internally. They would like operate as an IT class device. As far as I know I class operation is actually a regulatory requirement for portable inverters sold in Australia. I don't have one of these units so I can't verify it but I'd expect that the earth terminal on the device is also connected to the earth pin on the AC output sockets. An RCD is not really necessary if this is the case as you require a double fault to have a problem, ie one of the 'live' wires needs to contact something abnormal and then you need to contact the other wire and then get in contact with the first wire or that other abnormal thing to have a hazard. An RCD can work in these circumstances but would require at least a double fault and part of that fault to be upstream of the RCD itself to be capable of tripping since in normal circumstances one of active or neutral connecting to something else would still not provide a return path around the RCD.
@@RussellStewart RVDs are prone to false trips with portable inverters where the DC side - is tied to the frame as would often be the case, either deliberately or through the vehicle's wiring system crossing the tow ball to complete the circuit. It's not at all unusual to see > 100VAC between either of the AC output wires and the frame. It's perfectly safe, faults in the inverter aside of course, as it's capacitive (20ish-kHz and 50Hz) and extremely low current. If there is true isolation between the inverter and frame they are a good solution.
@@retrozmachine1189 thanks for the detailed reply. I’ve had no false trips with mine, but I am running the inverter 100% isolated. I was originally running with an inline RCD but it would never trip even when a fault was induced on purpose. The test unit always presented the “no earth” error. Rightly or wrongly, driving an earth stake was never a consideration for me, as a good earth stake is damn near impossible to get out and I had visions of me leaving a trail of earth stakes around the country for people to trip over. 😂
@@RussellStewart Good that it works for you. Your inverter being fully isolated is the trick. A lot of people don't understand how RCDs work. They don't care about an earth per se. All they do is sense imbalance of current between active and neutral, no matter how that happens.
Hey John. Is there anywhere that stocks these in Perth? I’d love to be able to check one out in person for when the time comes that funds allow me to splash the cash. Love your channel. Dan.
Hi John very informative. I am a member of a small sports club we do not have mains power an currently use a generator which does not have pure sine wave power. Could you please steer me in the right direction with who at Bluetti could help in designing a system. Phillip
There are two types of engineers 1st type will instruct a tradie to "do it like I say" and won't listen to suggestions ... 2nd type will listen... Do the math and realize I the job can't be done the way he first thought and correct the instruction...or will explain why his method will be OK. I have run into both types ...the best cure for type 1 is to say "put it in writing"... This usually causes a a type 1 to consult a type 2...
RCD and earth staking is problematic. Use a RVD (residual voltage device)… no need to earth and a much safer option for isolated power supplies such as generators and inverters.
Nice, if you can get them for free!!! I go camping to take cost effective breaks from civilisation. In danger of just replicating urban life in the bush as you go down this expensive rabbit hole. Might as well stay home or in the city
We used an AC 200P Blueetti while camping out the back of the Blue mountains in the wilderness area for 4 days. We have it plugged into the Tesla to give us a continuous supply of 240 volts, which is really handy as when it rained continuously for 2 of those days we did all the cooking inside the tent on the induction cooktop. The Bluetti was as good as the model Y
With the energy security issues we face as the push coal out having some solutions in you shed will be important. I invested in a Bluetti which is way too much money for me normally, but I now work from home so down time is an issue… and I wanted a solution for off grid potential. Way too big of an inverter but ultimately I can run my house off it. Now I have it in use every day, and take just the battery away camping. Can go 5-7 days without needing power and no solar. Running CPAP, fridge, lights, laptop, phones. It’s been great cause I now use it to power a diesel heater for camper or shed. Now all I need to add is solar panels (renting so I have a cheap eBay flex panel and it’s ok but will get a decent one soon) and I will use this all day everyday and likely discharge overnight recharge and use excess during day. Would suggest it’s worth the investment and very interesting to know what your using each day and how much solar you need to live.
@@offroadingfoz mate, on a budget, just get yourself a 2nd hand house panel, they're consistently better than any flexi/foldable panel and you'll get one for near nothing. To test the panel, measure the short circuit current, what it should be will listed as that (or Isc) on the back. You'll get a good idea of how the panel performs doing that.
BLUETTI PORTABLE POWER STATIONS
AC60 portable power station: bit.ly/4443whp
B80 expansion battery: bit.ly/3JcFrN6
AC180 portable power station: bit.ly/3qLDEIL
**Get an extra $20 off the AC60 using code "JohnAC60" until June 22.
My experience with the Bluetti EB70 (716Wh) and a 200W monocrystalline folding solar panel of decent quality, is that I can run my 90l Dual Zone camp fridge, with one zone on freezer and one zone on fridge. And in summer I can run the fridge indefinitely with that setup.
Anyone looking at Bluetti for camping will not be disappointed.
Probably a good idea now that it is winter to run the same test again.
Interesting, Matt - thanks for sharing. It would be interesting to re-test in winter. Less sun, so less power in from the PV, but also less drain due to less delta-T.
Most cases hr or so charge from the car keeps it topped also
@@AutoExpertJC the fridge was in the hottest room in the house also. Uninsulated brick veneer wall with full afternoon sun. I'll do the test in the same room. Panel in the same spot.
@@wobblysauce only get 90W from my old car (1995 LandCruiser)
Had a smaller unit for 3 months and does the job beautifully with great build quality. This will be the future of power at home and in time remove any dependence on the grid.
Been using an AC180 for a few weeks now; Solved all my "check the voltage" maintenance issues and just plug & play.
I've got 2 of the Bluetti AC2000, great units and have saved me hundreds of dollars when the house power goes out by keeping the fridges running. I also use one as a weight lift exercise tool. Multiple use devices, cannot beat that.
Find the hole and push...Yes, I agree that this is a mighty fine ability to practice and maintain.
I just bought one of these, AC 200 max, with 3 x solar panels, it’s provided 100% of my home electrical power for the last 3 weeks. OK, so I live alone in a 1 bed apartment plus it’s summer here in UK right now so prob won’t manage through the winter, but Very happy with my Bluetti 👍🏻
Thanks John. I am building up the camping supplies and was considering one of these.
Thank you for this video. It was excellent, and exactly what i was looking for!
Thanks, John & Bluetti, for these reviews.
Bluetti's always improving its line-up for the different needs & capabilities of potential customers.
The AC60 & B80 combo is ideal for the elderly as having them in each hand means that steps or uneven ground can be clearly seen when moving around, which makes it way safer. 👍
As you mentioned, the side weight distribution is less strain on the back, a major plus for anyone with back pain issues.
The earthing capability is essential in my world. I never use power tools with an earth-leakage breaker. It's just not worth the risk.
I got one to use as a second battery for my maverick camper v2 limited. Because I could use it for the solar panels, then using bluette 60 to 24 v to the camper. This will support the AGM battery so it's doesn't over load it. Also if I need that short use of high energy tools or eg coffee machine. Plus I don't need to mode my camper to save money. Thanks John and the discount.
The ac 180 now has a cable for $30 which will allow you to hook up any Bluetti battery pack,the B80 all the way up to the 3000 watt which will give you 4100 watt system.
Does it it work and charge exactly the same?
What is the cable called?
@@janiscooper1006 just lock on bluetti site and ask and it will show you.
Both are great units but the AC180 can do it all, I have run Induction Hobs and 1600w Air Fryers and Microwaves and kettles from them and they will even run SWMBO's Hair Dryer, So whether it is for Camping or Off Grid or unexpected Blackouts the AC180 will do it all, The AC60 + the B80 can do it too except run the big power Appliances, But I can find enough reasons for me to own both systems, Both are very portable and will get you through Storms and Blackouts and give the kids something to do by running their Xbox etc, In short these two Sogens are just Game Changers, Thanks John.
B80 can also plug into the ac180. Cable coming.
Thank you. You mentioned that you can charge the B80 from the AC60. Can you also charge the B80 from the AC180?
I’d love one for my camper, just too far out of my budget.
That’s not to say they’re over priced, I think they’re amazing. Just out of my reach unfortunately.
Wouldn’t mind one of these for the van and as home backup. I have a generator change over switch that I plug my little Honda generator and it powers the house. Would AC180 or 200 work in the same way? Obviously keeping within the inverter output.
My Sheila’s ordered 2💪
Hi John
My name is Steve I have a couple of quick questions I’d like to ask you about the Bluetti AC60. Firstly my wife and I like camping ( without a caravan) would the AC60 last several days just running a 60lt fridge, some low wattage lights and a couple of 240v battery chargers? It would be able to be charged for a few hours via the car each day. And secondly if it is capable of doing that job as believe it would be then I am willing to put myself out and do a long term product review for both yourself and Bluetti at no cost, would that be of interest?
Thank you for your time.
Steve
hey John, pretty keen on one of these beautis... given that you have a shitload already, happy to take an earlier model off your hands, pick up of course :) Frank
First time I've seen any cuts in your videos!, age creeping up 😉 - my videos are full of cuts 😂
Is the US version of the ac adapter to charge the b80 available?
The more I see of these Bluettis (that doesn't look right as spelt) and similar brands, the more I like the idea. The price is a bit to swallow, but if I could just find enough use to justify it.
What's the name of the cable that connects the B80 to the power station?
If I could afford one, god would I love one
Can you link the B80 up with the AC180 ?
yes you sure can .
Can the B80 be charged off solar itself?
Like if you were to use it as a base camp to run a fridge and charge off solar while I'm off with the A60? And then could you also recharge the A60 later back at camp?
yes, most of bluetti's expansion batteries have discharging and charging ports
If someone’s battery dies on a campsite can these charge them back up and/or jumpstart? Would be handy to help without needing to move the cars around
These could charge a starter pack, but cannot deliver the whack of power required for the starter itself.
Yes not a jump starter but can charge the jump starter
Just buy a portable jump pack. Keep it charged to about 80% (not 100%, to preserve the battery), and carry it with you always. You can help yourself and help others. *_Project Farm_* has a couple of good shootouts of these products.
These units do not have a neutral / earth link internally. They would like operate as an IT class device. As far as I know I class operation is actually a regulatory requirement for portable inverters sold in Australia. I don't have one of these units so I can't verify it but I'd expect that the earth terminal on the device is also connected to the earth pin on the AC output sockets. An RCD is not really necessary if this is the case as you require a double fault to have a problem, ie one of the 'live' wires needs to contact something abnormal and then you need to contact the other wire and then get in contact with the first wire or that other abnormal thing to have a hazard.
An RCD can work in these circumstances but would require at least a double fault and part of that fault to be upstream of the RCD itself to be capable of tripping since in normal circumstances one of active or neutral connecting to something else would still not provide a return path around the RCD.
An RVD and not an RCD is the way to go for those looking for extra safety IMO.
@@RussellStewart RVDs are prone to false trips with portable inverters where the DC side - is tied to the frame as would often be the case, either deliberately or through the vehicle's wiring system crossing the tow ball to complete the circuit. It's not at all unusual to see > 100VAC between either of the AC output wires and the frame. It's perfectly safe, faults in the inverter aside of course, as it's capacitive (20ish-kHz and 50Hz) and extremely low current.
If there is true isolation between the inverter and frame they are a good solution.
@@retrozmachine1189 thanks for the detailed reply. I’ve had no false trips with mine, but I am running the inverter 100% isolated. I was originally running with an inline RCD but it would never trip even when a fault was induced on purpose. The test unit always presented the “no earth” error. Rightly or wrongly, driving an earth stake was never a consideration for me, as a good earth stake is damn near impossible to get out and I had visions of me leaving a trail of earth stakes around the country for people to trip over. 😂
@@RussellStewart Good that it works for you. Your inverter being fully isolated is the trick.
A lot of people don't understand how RCDs work. They don't care about an earth per se. All they do is sense imbalance of current between active and neutral, no matter how that happens.
Hey John.
Is there anywhere that stocks these in Perth?
I’d love to be able to check one out in person for when the time comes that funds allow me to splash the cash.
Love your channel.
Dan.
Hi John very informative. I am a member of a small sports club we do not have mains power an currently use a generator which does not have pure sine wave power. Could you please steer me in the right direction with who at Bluetti could help in designing a system. Phillip
FIY. you can contact their customer service and they also offer all-in-one solar+battery system now
Do you get to keep all the promo stuff
There are two types of engineers 1st type will instruct a tradie to "do it like I say" and won't listen to suggestions ... 2nd type will listen... Do the math and realize I the job can't be done the way he first thought and correct the instruction...or will explain why his method will be OK. I have run into both types ...the best cure for type 1 is to say "put it in writing"... This usually causes a a type 1 to consult a type 2...
RCD and earth staking is problematic. Use a RVD (residual voltage device)… no need to earth and a much safer option for isolated power supplies such as generators and inverters.
Nice, if you can get them for free!!! I go camping to take cost effective breaks from civilisation. In danger of just replicating urban life in the bush as you go down this expensive rabbit hole. Might as well stay home or in the city
I likea da Bluetti
Crazy price buy something half the price and use till it shits it's self
Is that 18 hundred watts or 1 thousand 8 hundred watts? I know you are a stickler for proper terminology... (yes count them 3 full stops)
We used an AC 200P Blueetti while camping out the back of the Blue mountains in the wilderness area for 4 days.
We have it plugged into the Tesla to give us a continuous supply of 240 volts, which is really handy as when it rained continuously for 2 of those days we did all the cooking inside the tent on the induction cooktop.
The Bluetti was as good as the model Y
Even other hybrid models work great like that.
No. Can't afford one.
I suppose technically I should say I cannot afford two, because I do already have an EB70.
With the energy security issues we face as the push coal out having some solutions in you shed will be important.
I invested in a Bluetti which is way too much money for me normally, but I now work from home so down time is an issue… and I wanted a solution for off grid potential. Way too big of an inverter but ultimately I can run my house off it. Now I have it in use every day, and take just the battery away camping. Can go 5-7 days without needing power and no solar. Running CPAP, fridge, lights, laptop, phones. It’s been great cause I now use it to power a diesel heater for camper or shed.
Now all I need to add is solar panels (renting so I have a cheap eBay flex panel and it’s ok but will get a decent one soon) and I will use this all day everyday and likely discharge overnight recharge and use excess during day.
Would suggest it’s worth the investment and very interesting to know what your using each day and how much solar you need to live.
@@offroadingfoz mate, on a budget, just get yourself a 2nd hand house panel, they're consistently better than any flexi/foldable panel and you'll get one for near nothing. To test the panel, measure the short circuit current, what it should be will listed as that (or Isc) on the back. You'll get a good idea of how the panel performs doing that.
Nice gay t-shirt John!
A gift from Greek Scientist Spiro?
*Promo sm* 🤗