Your problem with this ride is that you're basically riding in a straight line; when you test any bike in that way then it wouldn't matter what bike you're on, you're always going to get the same result. You need to ride the RT in the bends, hills and curves; when you do that, you will appreciate the capabilities of the bike in its correct environment;. You'll also be constantly searching in the rear view mirrors for that 900lb HD thats somewhere way way way behind you. PS the seat hight is adjustable.
I've been driving this RT for years. Lots of Black Forest, Alpine passes, Lake Garda, southern France, Scotland, etc. I always travel with two people. This BMW is a full dresser. The BMW drives on the highway like a car. 2 people and luggage with a full load can have a lot of fun on crazy pass curves. The engine thrust , braking system and chassis are absolutely bulletproof. The boxer is still missing a few horsepower
I ride an RT, it's an incredible bike. Big, but so easy. It's a cops bike. With engine guards you can install highway pegs no problem. But I also get the appeal of HD. I guess we all need more than one bike. Cool video by the way.
I have a heritage but wanted a 2nd touring bike that my wife would be comfortable on. Ended up with a '22 1250rt. It's such a fun, comfortable bike and the power is unreal. You can mount highway pegs that let's your legs stretch. Nice review.
I use the exact same model as my daily ride in all kind of weather, that is when this one comes in handy. Don't see many Harleys in Winter but quite a few BMW's.....
Hi Sandy. I,be had 2 RTs and they are fantastic bikes. You can be fully loaded with pillion and still throw it around the Alps like a sports bike. I’ve moved to HD and have a low rider ST to slow myself down. Lovely bike and totally different riding experience but it’s the most expensive but most basic bike I,ve ever bought. Whilst I love the experience, HD must up their game as they will be left behind, especially in Europe. Pillion foot pegs an extra….really!
i ride a 2016 RT. And have no problem with my legs. i'm tall, but even when riding around 6/7 hours, only stops for fuel. I feel still good when coming of
I'm a BMW RT rider and don't like Harley's but I love and appreciate your honest comparison to the RT. Informed me of things I didn't know. But most of all just enjoyed your super chilled ride and how you discuss the topics, thanks!!
I've been riding motorcycles for 60 years now and have ridden just about every kind of bike there is. I have owned 5 Harleys, currently have 2, a 1984 Sportster and a 2017 Ultra Limited. These are two out of 5 Harley Davidson's I've owned and am currently on my 2nd BMW which is a 2015 R1200RT. While I realize your review is based on your limited experience with this bike the video belies your inexperience with BMW Mototcycles. A short 200 mile jaunt is not nearly enough time to learn this motorcycle or really any motorcycle for that matter. IMHO you do it a great disservice with such a review. It isn't comparable to any Harley and vice versa. They are totally different in every way. All of that said...not a bad video....satay safe!!
Having a Heritage, a Springer Softail, a 883 and having thousands of miles on a Road Glide, I ride my BMW R1250Rt much more than the Harleys. Don’t get me wrong, the HD’s have a certain feel to them however, if I’m honest with myself, for true motorcycle riding, the RT easily wins. I agree, the stereo sucks
Great stuff Sandy. Great review. Even my wife is a fan. BMW’s are great. I had a 05 K1200S. Great performance. But nothing can replace the rawness of the Harley. Have a safe trip back to the cold Hope to see you soon 👍
Bought my 2018 r1200rt in march of 2019 so got it for $5000 off. $19500 plus taxes and other fees. Great 600 lb. bike. Had to lower the pegs, I`m 6 foot tall. I also purchased the top box in mars red. with the optional taillight. Its alot faster than you think.
Great review Holy Shift….I am a big fan of the RT….especially the new R1250 RT. If it had more power and were more planted on the highway….it would be in my garage. But till then, I will keep my Indians. Good stuff brother.
Having owned a 2017 RT as well as a 2020 1250 which is smoother and noticeable more powerful, the RT's are one of the easiest and most fun touring bikes I have owned in the last 55 years of riding. Highway pegs are easily attached to the crash bars and make day long rides much more comfortable. Put risers on the handle bars also improves the comfort. I am not a fan of the sound or the feel of the engine, but when your on the road for a week or two at a time as I am, the sound is just noise and the feeling becomes useless. The ease of handling, the seem less power and plenty of it, top of the line brakes/suspension and storage has been one of my favorite long distant tours, plus it extremely nimble in city driving
I own a 2018 R1200RT i put engine protector bars on and fitted a set of highway pegs, not for cruising but just to stretch my hamstrings while im riding long distance
I’ve rented a lot of Harley’s. Enjoyed them all. But, I needed a more upright riding position for my back for long distance touring and am on my 2nd RT.
I rode Harley’s for many years and in 2012 I rode the R1200RT and I’ve never been back on a Harley. The 1250 is even better ❤️ if you have the engine guards you can put highway pegs on the bike. The RT is the number one bike in the world for touring bikes and number two is the Adventure style RT called the BMW GS or GSA. The GS or GSA are more upright sitting position. I put the bar risers and lowering peg kit on my R1200RT and it provides a more upright sitting position.
I have a '22 FXLRS and a '16 R1200RT. The H-D sound, feel and style is pure therapy. The stock riding position on the FXLRS is silly - high knees and long reach to bars. The 1200RT is superior in technology, comfort, handling and performance. For 4 hours of local fun, the H-D is better. For a multi-day trip, the RT is better. Riding a big H-D V-Twin with loud pipes on a multi-day trip, no thanks.
You know what happens with the White RT? People think that you're a Cop. I noticed that when I am behind cars as most drivers slow down :) 1250 is a more refined bike with the huge 10" TFT. It is much easier to ride and more nimble than the GS, GSA, R18 and the K 1600 bikes. Whatever BMW did to the aerodynamics of the RT, as you get up the highway speeds, the bike gets more downforce unlike many other bikes that get the lift effect. Great video! Cheers!
I have a 2018 bmw 1200rt-p. it is an ex-australian police bike these are amazing to ride, and so safe and predictable. I have so much confident in my bmw. you can buy high-way pegs for the bmw 1200rt's that bolt on to the external bike chassis frame? If I had a choice bmw vs harley, I would definitely settle for a harley. If I had money to buy a Harley I would get one tomorrow.
I thought your review was accurate from a novice view point. The thought you'd be spent after 3 hours, is off. I rode over a thousand miles in under 18 hours on my RT, easy peasy. In addition to the other mods, mentioned for the RT, you can easily stand on the pegs at highway speeds. I recently wanted to buy a full dress Indian, Harley. I could not stand the seating position. The RT has spoiled me. Keep up the great video's!
Great video Sandy! The Beemer is light years ahead of Harley technology. And that boxer engine combined with the shaft drive is smooth as butter. But the riding position just doesn’t work for me on a long ride as you mentioned. My brother Jimmy rides a 2006 R1200 R/T which he bought new and has ridden cross country on many occasions. I’m sure he would question our opinions on distance comfort. But he’ll admit, nothing has the sound of a Harley and the culture it has. Enjoyed the ride my brother! Peace ✌🏻 out!
Unless you feel that you MUST have a Harley because of peer pressure, club rules like to make noise, pretend you are somebody you are not or some Ego thing, why HARLEY anyway? I have had Harleys for years and some of the above were for that reason. Just sold a 1 year old 2022 ST Street Glide that I bought new. Can not even hear the thing, throttle response is terrible, cable clutch never felt right and lever would jump back at you, gear indicator is blank when I need to see it, need new mufflers, tuner, shocks would be nice, rear cylinder runs real hot, uses oil every 500 miles or so and was told was normal. Being in California you have to BOOT LEG the things in to make it run right because vendors will not ship to California. Yes it is fun to modify a Harley but all people talk about is more sound, power, need bigger motor and the list goes on. So sold it and got a BMW 1250 GSA and it is just wonderful. Will do everything, has everything you could want and more, does not burn up oil like the Harley, runs great, throttle is great, cooling great and the insurance was HALF of what the Harley was. Pretty much done with Harleys. May get a BMW 1250 RT like the cops ride. No reason to do hours of training for ''U'' turns because unlike the Harley this thing is just so easy. Plus if you go to the Daily City Hells Angels club house in Palo Alto, you will see more than a few members with the BMW 1600 Bagger and another member Rides a Gold wing and of coarse many know the Late Sonny Barger hated Haley and rode Indian as some others do also. So its not just me.
You don't have quite the right look. You need a full. Hi Viz Klim Suit and a Hi Viz Full Face and Hi Vis High Boots Reflective Gloves. and a Hi Vis Traffic Vest. To look cool and fit in with the rest of us on our BMW's😁😁
Hey Holy, you-know-what set height was set at ? .3 positions. Under the seat there's a manual adjustment.? Just sayin. I have a Rt that I have sat on for about 4 to 5 hour s no get off. Little still but not as comfortable as my classic bagger .
I have to say, it seems kind of silly to ride anything but a Harley and then give it a bad review because it isn't a Harley. Judge the bike on its merits. It's one of the smoothest sport tourers around. There's a reason so many law enforcement agencies use it.
Why couldn’t you slap,some pegs somewhere on those crash bars? Goldwings need highway bars. In fact I’ve never owned a bike without some ability to stretch your legs out on.
I try to like BMW bikes and I've had three but I just can't like them. I like my Moto Guzzi bikes much better than the BMW bikes I've had. Harleys are my favorite there's just something about them .
Moto Guzzi has been known as the Italian HD. I've never owned a Guzzi, but have ridden several. I must say that I've always enjoyed the ride, especially the Nordge I believe it is.
@@HOLYSHIFT I currently on a 2010 electric glide and also a 2011 R1200 RT, the bummer is a velvet revolver. Even though I still love Harleys I guess I’m just getting old at almost 60.Love both bikes just a different tool
Love my 16 rt 1200. Disagree with your comment about the seat tho. I know 6 guys that ride long distance, and all have replaced the stock seat. It's good up to 200 miles then your butt hurts.
If you want to BMW buy a BMW don't try to make Harley-Davidson into one. I don't think Harley-Davidson can ever have an electric windshield. They would have to completely redesign their fairings. Ride safe.
L’avis d’un américain qui roule patriote 😂….pas du tout objectif, la bmw est une des meilleures motos du monde et forcément bien meilleure qu’une Harley-Davidson qui ne fait que allez droit droit……devant … Américain 😂……
Your problem with this ride is that you're basically riding in a straight line; when you test any bike in that way then it wouldn't matter what bike you're on, you're always going to get the same result. You need to ride the RT in the bends, hills and curves; when you do that, you will appreciate the capabilities of the bike in its correct environment;. You'll also be constantly searching in the rear view mirrors for that 900lb HD thats somewhere way way way behind you. PS the seat hight is adjustable.
You realize they are in Florida right, no hills, no curves….
They do make highway pegs that mount to the valve cover and they fold in....
I've been driving this RT for years. Lots of Black Forest, Alpine passes, Lake Garda, southern France, Scotland, etc. I always travel with two people. This BMW is a full dresser. The BMW drives on the highway like a car. 2 people and luggage with a full load can have a lot of fun on crazy pass curves. The engine thrust , braking system and chassis are absolutely bulletproof. The boxer is still missing a few horsepower
I ride an RT, it's an incredible bike. Big, but so easy. It's a cops bike. With engine guards you can install highway pegs no problem. But I also get the appeal of HD. I guess we all need more than one bike. Cool video by the way.
Should have rented the 1600 K BAGGER has everything the R has and more. It has pegs and floor boards. Probably the most comfortable bike ever made
I just bought a 2022 BMW R18 B...really get so much for the money as well as the unique style of the motorcycle.
I have a heritage but wanted a 2nd touring bike that my wife would be comfortable on. Ended up with a '22 1250rt. It's such a fun, comfortable bike and the power is unreal. You can mount highway pegs that let's your legs stretch. Nice review.
Thanks - I agree : it’s a great bike !
I want a Heritage so bad. lol
I use the exact same model as my daily ride in all kind of weather, that is when this one comes in handy. Don't see many Harleys in Winter but quite a few BMW's.....
I have both the '19RGU and a '22 R1250GSA. You can put highway pegs on the engine bars (many people do).
Hi Sandy. I,be had 2 RTs and they are fantastic bikes. You can be fully loaded with pillion and still throw it around the Alps like a sports bike. I’ve moved to HD and have a low rider ST to slow myself down. Lovely bike and totally different riding experience but it’s the most expensive but most basic bike I,ve ever bought. Whilst I love the experience, HD must up their game as they will be left behind, especially in Europe. Pillion foot pegs an extra….really!
Yeah buddy I agree with you absolutely!
Basically there's no one perfect bike. Not even an HD! 😀
i ride a 2016 RT. And have no problem with my legs. i'm tall, but even when riding around 6/7 hours, only stops for fuel.
I feel still good when coming of
I'm a BMW RT rider and don't like Harley's but I love and appreciate your honest comparison to the RT. Informed me of things I didn't know. But most of all just enjoyed your super chilled ride and how you discuss the topics, thanks!!
Thanks for your compliments
I've been riding motorcycles for 60 years now and have ridden just about every kind of bike there is. I have owned 5 Harleys, currently have 2, a 1984 Sportster and a 2017 Ultra Limited. These are two out of 5 Harley Davidson's I've owned and am currently on my 2nd BMW which is a 2015 R1200RT. While I realize your review is based on your limited experience with this bike the video belies your inexperience with BMW Mototcycles. A short 200 mile jaunt is not nearly enough time to learn this motorcycle or really any motorcycle for that matter. IMHO you do it a great disservice with such a review. It isn't comparable to any Harley and vice versa. They are totally different in every way. All of that said...not a bad video....satay safe!!
I traded my HD RGU for a BMW Transcontinental. Loved my Harley but the Beemer is simply a better overall touring bike.
Agreed
Having a Heritage, a Springer Softail, a 883 and having thousands of miles on a Road Glide, I ride my BMW R1250Rt much more than the Harleys. Don’t get me wrong, the HD’s have a certain feel to them however, if I’m honest with myself, for true motorcycle riding, the RT easily wins. I agree, the stereo sucks
Great stuff Sandy. Great review. Even my wife is a fan. BMW’s are great. I had a 05 K1200S. Great performance.
But nothing can replace the
rawness of the Harley. Have a safe trip back to the cold Hope to see you soon 👍
Nice to see this, my 2005 RT in black and it still works fine. Old and trusted.🏍👍
It’s cool to have both,sometimes you wanna ride this and sometimes you wanna ride that.
I am in possesion of a 2003 Honda ST1300 from my Dad....That bike is Bullet....Smooth...Fast.....But there is nothing like a Harley though....
Bought my 2018 r1200rt in march of 2019 so got it for $5000 off. $19500 plus taxes and other fees. Great 600 lb. bike. Had to lower the pegs, I`m 6 foot tall. I also purchased the top box in mars red. with the optional taillight. Its alot faster than you think.
Great review Holy Shift….I am a big fan of the RT….especially the new R1250 RT. If it had more power and were more planted on the highway….it would be in my garage. But till then, I will keep my Indians. Good stuff brother.
Having owned a 2017 RT as well as a 2020 1250 which is smoother and noticeable more powerful, the RT's are one of the easiest and most fun touring bikes I have owned in the last 55 years of riding. Highway pegs are easily attached to the crash bars and make day long rides much more comfortable. Put risers on the handle bars also improves the comfort. I am not a fan of the sound or the feel of the engine, but when your on the road for a week or two at a time as I am, the sound is just noise and the feeling becomes useless. The ease of handling, the seem less power and plenty of it, top of the line brakes/suspension and storage has been one of my favorite long distant tours, plus it extremely nimble in city driving
It truly is an amazing bike
Harley has one thing that BMW will never have Soul, culture and the list goes on.
And parts that fall off😂😂😂
@@jb1876 obviously you have never owned one lol
@@davidsizemore2745 I have 😂
@@joeburr7537 Never had any bad problems with HD and I have had many. Same for anyone I know.
I own a 2018 R1200RT i put engine protector bars on and fitted a set of highway pegs, not for cruising but just to stretch my hamstrings while im riding long distance
I’ve rented a lot of Harley’s. Enjoyed them all. But, I needed a more upright riding position for my back for long distance touring and am on my 2nd RT.
Thanks, but no thanks! I love my Road Glide.
I second that I've had 3 BMW and I'm sticking with Harley Davidson.
I rode Harley’s for many years and in 2012 I rode the R1200RT and I’ve never been back on a Harley. The 1250 is even better ❤️ if you have the engine guards you can put highway pegs on the bike. The RT is the number one bike in the world for touring bikes and number two is the Adventure style RT called the BMW GS or GSA. The GS or GSA are more upright sitting position. I put the bar risers and lowering peg kit on my R1200RT and it provides a more upright sitting position.
I have a '22 FXLRS and a '16 R1200RT. The H-D sound, feel and style is pure therapy. The stock riding position on the FXLRS is silly - high knees and long reach to bars. The 1200RT is superior in technology, comfort, handling and performance. For 4 hours of local fun, the H-D is better. For a multi-day trip, the RT is better. Riding a big H-D V-Twin with loud pipes on a multi-day trip, no thanks.
You know what happens with the White RT? People think that you're a Cop. I noticed that when I am behind cars as most drivers slow down :) 1250 is a more refined bike with the huge 10" TFT. It is much easier to ride and more nimble than the GS, GSA, R18 and the K 1600 bikes. Whatever BMW did to the aerodynamics of the RT, as you get up the highway speeds, the bike gets more downforce unlike many other bikes that get the lift effect. Great video! Cheers!
You are required to stop by StarBucks when riding or driving a BMW lol.
Hahaha- and Dunkin in a Harley
Really enjoyed the video, and appreciate your honest evaluation. I'm looking maybe to buy an RT.
The highway pegs are mounted on the cylinder heads if the bike has them.
Greet bike I own a 1200rt mainly for touring as my wife loves the rt. the lowrider st is fur solo touring greet video.
I'm surprised that the stereo still sucked when it sucked in the late 90s too.
I've been known to put my feet on the cylinders.
The Honda Goldwing killed it four decades ago. I've owned both, and there's just no comparison that holds water!
I have a 2018 bmw 1200rt-p. it is an ex-australian police bike
these are amazing to ride, and so safe and predictable. I have so much confident in my bmw.
you can buy high-way pegs for the bmw 1200rt's that bolt on to the external bike chassis frame?
If I had a choice bmw vs harley, I would definitely settle for a harley. If I had money to buy a Harley I would get one tomorrow.
I thought your review was accurate from a novice view point. The thought you'd be spent after 3 hours, is off. I rode over a thousand miles in under 18 hours on my RT, easy peasy. In addition to the other mods, mentioned for the RT, you can easily stand on the pegs at highway speeds. I recently wanted to buy a full dress Indian, Harley. I could not stand the seating position. The RT has spoiled me. Keep up the great video's!
Great video Sandy! The Beemer is light years ahead of Harley technology. And that boxer engine combined with the shaft drive is smooth as butter. But the riding position just doesn’t work for me on a long ride as you mentioned. My brother Jimmy rides a 2006 R1200 R/T which he bought new and has ridden cross country on many occasions. I’m sure he would question our opinions on distance comfort. But he’ll admit, nothing has the sound of a Harley and the culture it has. Enjoyed the ride my brother! Peace ✌🏻 out!
Great time out… thanks again Andy
I was a Harley rider most of my life. I now ride the BMW RT. Still love both bikes but sorry Harley lost me many years ago...
Unless you feel that you MUST have a Harley because of peer pressure, club rules like to make noise, pretend you are somebody you are not or some Ego thing, why HARLEY anyway? I have had Harleys for years and some of the above were for that reason. Just sold a 1 year old 2022 ST Street Glide that I bought new. Can not even hear the thing, throttle response is terrible, cable clutch never felt right and lever would jump back at you, gear indicator is blank when I need to see it, need new mufflers, tuner, shocks would be nice, rear cylinder runs real hot, uses oil every 500 miles or so and was told was normal. Being in California you have to BOOT LEG the things in to make it run right because vendors will not ship to California. Yes it is fun to modify a Harley but all people talk about is more sound, power, need bigger motor and the list goes on. So sold it and got a BMW 1250 GSA and it is just wonderful. Will do everything, has everything you could want and more, does not burn up oil like the Harley, runs great, throttle is great, cooling great and the insurance was HALF of what the Harley was. Pretty much done with Harleys. May get a BMW 1250 RT like the cops ride. No reason to do hours of training for ''U'' turns because unlike the Harley this thing is just so easy. Plus if you go to the Daily City Hells Angels club house in Palo Alto, you will see more than a few members with the BMW 1600 Bagger and another member Rides a Gold wing and of coarse many know the Late Sonny Barger hated Haley and rode Indian as some others do also. So its not just me.
I’d prefer glen’s BMW K1600B
Great video holy shift been looking for good touring bike &
this looks great for me & mrs what year is this Rt?
Not sure i think 2018 - Please subscribe
Great review 😉
Nice visual video but the sound is sketchy.
You don't have quite the right look.
You need a full. Hi Viz Klim Suit and a Hi Viz Full Face and Hi Vis High Boots Reflective Gloves. and a Hi Vis Traffic Vest. To look cool and fit in with the rest of us on our BMW's😁😁
Don’t think so
Hey Holy, you-know-what set height was set at ? .3 positions. Under the seat there's a manual adjustment.? Just sayin. I have a Rt that I have sat on for about 4 to 5 hour s no get off. Little still but not as comfortable as my classic bagger .
Yeah- I didn’t know about the setting.. don’t know what it wws
I have to say, it seems kind of silly to ride anything but a Harley and then give it a bad review because it isn't a Harley. Judge the bike on its merits. It's one of the smoothest sport tourers around. There's a reason so many law enforcement agencies use it.
It’s a great bike and I loved it
Why couldn’t you slap,some pegs somewhere on those crash bars? Goldwings need highway bars. In fact I’ve never owned a bike without some ability to stretch your legs out on.
I try to like BMW bikes and I've had three but I just can't like them. I like my Moto Guzzi bikes much better than the BMW bikes I've had. Harleys are my favorite there's just something about them .
I know, can’t really explain it … Harley is an emotional thing…
Moto Guzzi has been known as the Italian HD. I've never owned a Guzzi, but have ridden several. I must say that I've always enjoyed the ride, especially the Nordge I believe it is.
Try writing that thing for a week straight, I think you’ll find your review might be a little different.
Comfortable or not after a week?
@@HOLYSHIFT I currently on a 2010 electric glide and also a 2011 R1200 RT, the bummer is a velvet revolver. Even though I still love Harleys I guess I’m just getting old at almost 60.Love both bikes just a different tool
I guess I shouldn’t speaking to the iPad and sometimes spelling is not correct as you can see, I guess I got a bug in my eye
Love my 16 rt 1200. Disagree with your comment about the seat tho. I know 6 guys that ride long distance, and all have replaced the stock seat. It's good up to 200 miles then your butt hurts.
If you want to BMW buy a BMW don't try to make Harley-Davidson into one. I don't think Harley-Davidson can ever have an electric windshield. They would have to completely redesign their fairings.
Ride safe.
hahahaha... sure
soooooo much nope
This is bmw k1600 kid
Nah, boxer engine doesn’t sound like Harley.
just plain old ugly bike enough said
Great video.. BUT H.D 4 ever..👍👍👍🇦🇺
Love from DeKalb Mississippi USA 🇺🇲
Bit hard to take anyone seriously if they don’t wear protective gear. 😢
Tu ne peut pas comparer bmw et Harley….les harley sont faite pour allez droit devant,,,,et c’est tout …
Harley eater....
L’avis d’un américain qui roule patriote 😂….pas du tout objectif, la bmw est une des meilleures motos du monde et forcément bien meilleure qu’une Harley-Davidson qui ne fait que allez droit droit……devant …
Américain 😂……
Whole video is about your face - what about's your ego ? ...🤔🤣
That’s a serious bike👍