Love the way people don’t know what their talking about on here the whip is actually really really padded the reason if they were to whip them with that much force is to create this really loud smacking sound which pushes the horse forwards if you beat a horse with e whip it would refuse to do anything
AlexSzpuntVlogs love the way people are so ignorant. Love that people don't understand whips hurt a lot. Love that people don't understand how sensitive horses actually are...
Him Again have you tried hitting yourself with it? No I don't think so, because that would hurt, even if it's not designed to hurt the horse. It's still gonna hurt. If it was solely for the sound, why not hit the saddle or your leg? Because that would take away the pain from the horse and so it wouldn't be effective enough. Don't be like this.
PastelTessa I say again, go and do some proper research and yes, I have felt a contemporary whip, it hurts no more than a rolled up newspaper. Please stop commenting from an emotional point of view as if it is fact.
Also wanted to add, many horses don't protest as much as you think. Most horses do as you say when you whip them, simply because they are afraid of more whipping. Some become aggressive indeed, but most of them don't, so that makes that point invalid.
Dude people say that a horse can't feel it or it's just a like "flick" no it's not if a horse can feel a fly ON ITS BUTT it sure as HELL can feel a whip. That whip looked like a freaking BASEBALL BAT
Evie then why would they use it please, trust me I ride but I don't ever hit my horse. I don't understand why you would ever use it. They looks like they are doing what there told, that's what's a crops for not a freaking whip are you crazy?! If you can't control your horse without a whip your NOT a rider. I'm not trying to fight with you but this is not right. Yeah in this video it looks like a 'flick' but in the real world they are barreling it to the horses muscles. Horses have a thin fabric
Piper Grayway It can keep them focused i.e. if they are straying into a dangerous position then it can just doubly make sure they move and also many jockeys say its more the noise that urges them forward than the use of the whip for injury
Anyone that knows horses KNOWS they will give you their ALL when running, so there is NO need to whip them. I'd love to whip the jerk jockeys who thinks that's inspiring the horse to run faster. The only thing inspiring is the thought of $$$$ to the detriment of the young horse who will break it's neck, legs and anything else to please the jockey. RUN the jockeys and beat them instead. See if they run faster when being beaten, when they are already running as fast as human possible.
+2Ryled If you knew anything about the sport rather than just commenting on the back of no knowledge or experience at all you'd know that this isn't true. Firstly the money in racing is poor for the most part, there's really not any $$$ in it... take it from someone who knows XD. a jockey earns 9.5% of the prize money, of which the average is about £8-9,000for a run of the mill handicap, 10% of which would be £800-900, after tax;and other expenses that drops significantly.....So no big bucks I'm afraid! Besides, the £157.75 riding fee is the same wherever you finish, so getting at a horse if you're out of contention would be pointless and really counter intuitive anyway. Second, the horse is in an altered state of mind when racing so the sticks don't hurt at all. (they don't anyway but the altered state of mind means they do see it as encouragement). Also, the whip can get a horse to use themselves more, especially at a fence or in the finish.... It can also help get a young horse balanced properly, and stop a collision into another horse. Also, jockeys love horses.... You really think anyone in racing would do anything if it was hurting a horse? It would be completely counter productive aside from anything else. You really want to sit there with no experience and tell us that firstly the whip doesn't work, and second it has a detrimental effect on a horse? Really? Doesn't that seem like slightly flawed logic to you? Firstly until you've ridden in races how can you know what effect a whip has? Furthermore why the hell would using a whip if it doesn't work, like you say bring in big money? If the whip is detrimental to a horse and slows them down surely us using it would be pretty fucking dumb; we'd realise the horses weren't extending themselves properly and it'd stop. Some jockeys must be half decent at their job or no-one would be getting these apparent big bucks.....Or are you trying to say no-one apart from you knows what they're talking about? There isn't one person with a slightly more fond view of racing that knows anymore than nothing?.... Seems fairly unlikely. The arguments you're putting forward are not only incorrect, but mutually exclusive. So please, your opinion is your business and you're quite entitled to it, but before you put stuff like this in the world; do your research, go to the races, go to a racing yard.... See what goes on from every perspective and then come back with even the correct arguments for your cause....Because if you knew anything you'd know that what you're saying aren't even the objections anti-whip campaigns have. Please do some research my friend, you're entitled to your opinion but being blinkered (pardon the pun), and ignoring all sides only serves to leave you open to a weak looking argument. There is the odd example of poor whip use I will concede, but 99% of the time the whip is used effectively and safely and jockeys who do not adhere to proper use are punished.... I can only comment on British and Irish racing because it is all I know, in America things might be different let me make that clear; over here though, the RSPCA (the body that actually knows about animal cruelty) is in agreement with the BHA that the current guidelines, rules and punishments for excessive use and proper use are fair, just and reasonable to both horse and rider. They are also in agreement that the whip is a useful asset for both bringing the best out of a horse, and maintaining a safe racing environment.The whip is an emotive subject, but as it stands the whip is a tool that promotes a positive effect on a horse.... Not all horses, and this is accounted for by jockeys but the whip is more than useful, and is instrumental in helping ensure not only that a horse gives their all, but also in ensuring a safe racing environment free of collisions. I understand if your opinion does not change, but please try and put forward a strong, un contradicting and fair argument in future.... Slanging matches get nobody anywhere...
+2Ryled Agreed. Thoroughbreds will still fight to win even with broken legs. They run the best they can because they love it and want to win.Secretariat for example was known to be angry if he lost
broadwaygirl84 Then why do some horses benefit from headgear? Put blinkers or cheek-pieces on a lazy horse it can turn them inside out. Horse might go to the races one day with nothing and pull up... The next day with blinkers go and win. Take Silviniaco Conti. Also, how does that explain bridle horses? Horse like My Tent Or Yours who does everything on the bridle and is a complete don on the bridle, but when produced and asked finds little. Or Vibrato Valtat; he gets to the front and immediately slows.... If horses all give their maximum effort always how do you explain this? Thoroughbred racehorses are marvellous, wonderful creatures, and they are as diverse as humans. Every horse is different, and it is wrong to generalise....
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not right because ive worked with horses in the racing industry and i know all horses a well looked after and the whips dont hurt the horse at all so dont say that all equestrian riders hate it because i know many of them and all agree racing is not cruel
Jane Corona pff wrong, I'm not in the racing industry yet I'm not against it on the most part. A lot of videos on here only show the bad of the industry. If done right it can be an amazing sport and a lot of horses throughly enjoy it 🤷♀️🤷♀️
Jessica Kelly Really? A horse would just LOVE to be whipped, spurred & forced to run as a money making slave to feed the egos of the idiots who own them? You’re an idiot for defending this shit.
Good use of the whip ?? hahaha sounds funny. Sounds funny hearing somebody saying that whipping an animal for egoist- human purposes is "good". A horse is ""designed"" for ridinng? Ok, true... but in freedom, everytime the horse wanted just for fun, or when necessary, not when whipped. Do you want your boss to estimulate you by beating you every time he wanted to do things faster or better ??? I hope that someday, people could start to understand that animals are not for human fun or purposes.
I always thought while using a stick, you could t raise your hand above your shoulder
My mate Brett use to get beaten with the jockey whip by his parents when he misbehaved.
What does that justify? 30 minutes long rape ist criminal, while 10 or 20 minutes long rapes can be called seduction?
jdiscount ....jdis did he run like a horse or does he do it now.
Thanks jockhey 👍👍👍🏇
Love the way people don’t know what their talking about on here the whip is actually really really padded the reason if they were to whip them with that much force is to create this really loud smacking sound which pushes the horse forwards if you beat a horse with e whip it would refuse to do anything
AlexSzpuntVlogs love the way people are so ignorant. Love that people don't understand whips hurt a lot. Love that people don't understand how sensitive horses actually are...
PastelTessa
Go and do some proper research about the construction of the "whip".
Him Again have you tried hitting yourself with it? No I don't think so, because that would hurt, even if it's not designed to hurt the horse. It's still gonna hurt. If it was solely for the sound, why not hit the saddle or your leg? Because that would take away the pain from the horse and so it wouldn't be effective enough. Don't be like this.
PastelTessa
I say again, go and do some proper research and yes, I have felt a contemporary whip, it hurts no more than a rolled up newspaper. Please stop commenting from an emotional point of view as if it is fact.
Also wanted to add, many horses don't protest as much as you think. Most horses do as you say when you whip them, simply because they are afraid of more whipping. Some become aggressive indeed, but most of them don't, so that makes that point invalid.
Even more better
What a fantastic video! so informative
More better, I'm dying😂😂
Explain to me one question Ron never had to use a whip on secretariat.
Because the whip is a last ditch effort but rony pushed red like in the video Ron was relying on secretariats speed
The whip is for causing pain to the animal to try and make it do what it is incapable of doing Simple
In other words, you gotta start riding like the yanks!
New video
Dude people say that a horse can't feel it or it's just a like "flick" no it's not if a horse can feel a fly ON ITS BUTT it sure as HELL can feel a whip. That whip looked like a freaking BASEBALL BAT
Piper Grayway The whips are extremely padded, and honestly they can hardly feel the whip
Evie then why would they use it please, trust me I ride but I don't ever hit my horse. I don't understand why you would ever use it. They looks like they are doing what there told, that's what's a crops for not a freaking whip are you crazy?! If you can't control your horse without a whip your NOT a rider. I'm not trying to fight with you but this is not right. Yeah in this video it looks like a 'flick' but in the real world they are barreling it to the horses muscles. Horses have a thin fabric
Sorry it cut off. Horses have a very thin fabric like skin with way more nerve endings than us I'm not insulting you I'm just came to correct you.. 😐
Piper Grayway It can keep them focused i.e. if they are straying into a dangerous position then it can just doubly make sure they move and also many jockeys say its more the noise that urges them forward than the use of the whip for injury
Piper Grayway Also, many horses race without whips, its just a question on whether they race better with or without them
That's not a "little flick" ......
Yes it is.
@@avathealive I race, and that is just a little flick, I give those flicks to the horses that i ride.
@@avathealive It's not abuse, im only allowed to whip the horse hard on his butt, 7 times.
@@avathealive Do you ride?
@@avathealive So when your horse misbehaves, how do you punish him/her?
Godbless peace
Anyone that knows horses KNOWS they will give you their ALL when running, so there is NO need to whip them. I'd love to whip the jerk jockeys who thinks that's inspiring the horse to run faster. The only thing inspiring is the thought of $$$$ to the detriment of the young horse who will break it's neck, legs and anything else to please the jockey. RUN the jockeys and beat them instead. See if they run faster when being beaten, when they are already running as fast as human possible.
+2Ryled If you knew anything about the sport rather than just commenting on the back of no knowledge or experience at all you'd know that this isn't true. Firstly the money in racing is poor for the most part, there's really not any $$$ in it... take it from someone who knows XD. a jockey earns 9.5% of the prize money, of which the average is about £8-9,000for a run of the mill handicap, 10% of which would be £800-900, after tax;and other expenses that drops significantly.....So no big bucks I'm afraid! Besides, the £157.75 riding fee is the same wherever you finish, so getting at a horse if you're out of contention would be pointless and really counter intuitive anyway. Second, the horse is in an altered state of mind when racing so the sticks don't hurt at all. (they don't anyway but the altered state of mind means they do see it as encouragement). Also, the whip can get a horse to use themselves more, especially at a fence or in the finish.... It can also help get a young horse balanced properly, and stop a collision into another horse. Also, jockeys love horses.... You really think anyone in racing would do anything if it was hurting a horse? It would be completely counter productive aside from anything else. You really want to sit there with no experience and tell us that firstly the whip doesn't work, and second it has a detrimental effect on a horse? Really? Doesn't that seem like slightly flawed logic to you? Firstly until you've ridden in races how can you know what effect a whip has? Furthermore why the hell would using a whip if it doesn't work, like you say bring in big money? If the whip is detrimental to a horse and slows them down surely us using it would be pretty fucking dumb; we'd realise the horses weren't extending themselves properly and it'd stop. Some jockeys must be half decent at their job or no-one would be getting these apparent big bucks.....Or are you trying to say no-one apart from you knows what they're talking about? There isn't one person with a slightly more fond view of racing that knows anymore than nothing?.... Seems fairly unlikely. The arguments you're putting forward are not only incorrect, but mutually exclusive. So please, your opinion is your business and you're quite entitled to it, but before you put stuff like this in the world; do your research, go to the races, go to a racing yard.... See what goes on from every perspective and then come back with even the correct arguments for your cause....Because if you knew anything you'd know that what you're saying aren't even the objections anti-whip campaigns have. Please do some research my friend, you're entitled to your opinion but being blinkered (pardon the pun), and ignoring all sides only serves to leave you open to a weak looking argument. There is the odd example of poor whip use I will concede, but 99% of the time the whip is used effectively and safely and jockeys who do not adhere to proper use are punished.... I can only comment on British and Irish racing because it is all I know, in America things might be different let me make that clear; over here though, the RSPCA (the body that actually knows about animal cruelty) is in agreement with the BHA that the current guidelines, rules and punishments for excessive use and proper use are fair, just and reasonable to both horse and rider. They are also in agreement that the whip is a useful asset for both bringing the best out of a horse, and maintaining a safe racing environment.The whip is an emotive subject, but as it stands the whip is a tool that promotes a positive effect on a horse.... Not all horses, and this is accounted for by jockeys but the whip is more than useful, and is instrumental in helping ensure not only that a horse gives their all, but also in ensuring a safe racing environment free of collisions. I understand if your opinion does not change, but please try and put forward a strong, un contradicting and fair argument in future.... Slanging matches get nobody anywhere...
+2Ryled Agreed. Thoroughbreds will still fight to win even with broken legs. They run the best they can because they love it and want to win.Secretariat for example was known to be angry if he lost
broadwaygirl84 Then why do some horses benefit from headgear? Put blinkers or cheek-pieces on a lazy horse it can turn them inside out. Horse might go to the races one day with nothing and pull up... The next day with blinkers go and win. Take Silviniaco Conti. Also, how does that explain bridle horses? Horse like My Tent Or Yours who does everything on the bridle and is a complete don on the bridle, but when produced and asked finds little. Or Vibrato Valtat; he gets to the front and immediately slows.... If horses all give their maximum effort always how do you explain this? Thoroughbred racehorses are marvellous, wonderful creatures, and they are as diverse as humans. Every horse is different, and it is wrong to generalise....
Thenkbv It isn't about the money, jockeys have to be riding at the top of their game, or everyday to be earning massive amounts of money
Omg your so dumb that’s what you have to do it’s part of the fucken sport whip the horse to run faster
The clip is showing organized and intetional animal abuse, what else?
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They act like they're so nice when they talk to the camera but when in a race they're completely different,funny really
Chummiergold 684 that’s honestly not true. ever heard of mike smith?
Like all sportsman. Polite, professionalism. But strong and determined once the flag falls.
I think this video shows people the right way to use a whip
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People need to use their damn fucking legs
HORSE RACING IS ABUSE !!!!!!
YES YOU ARE 100000000000% RIGHT
@@avathealive yes! thank you!!!!!!! finally someone agrees with me!!!!!1
ALL LIES all they want is money so they are making this so the business stays "uncruel" i hate racing
Bitch you dont even know shit about a horse
Polar Lace actually she/he is right every equestrian hates the racing industry. Except for the ones in it
not right because ive worked with horses in the racing industry and i know all horses a well looked after and the whips dont hurt the horse at all so dont say that all equestrian riders hate it because i know many of them and all agree racing is not cruel
Jane Corona pff wrong, I'm not in the racing industry yet I'm not against it on the most part. A lot of videos on here only show the bad of the industry. If done right it can be an amazing sport and a lot of horses throughly enjoy it 🤷♀️🤷♀️
Jessica Kelly Really? A horse would just LOVE to be whipped, spurred & forced to run as a money making slave to feed the egos of the idiots who own them? You’re an idiot for defending this shit.
horse racing is dumb and cruel omg...
how i work with them and they go through all extents so keep the horses happy
THANKS
its not cruel
Blond Brain your dumb
The industry is dumb, but i know a few people that don't even carry whips
Whips should not be allowed. Poor horses.
EVERYTHING HERE IS SO SO SO WRONG!
I know I ride race horses and we just ride the fuck on
AND YOU ARE SO SO SO RIGHT!!!
Good use of the whip ?? hahaha sounds funny. Sounds funny hearing somebody saying that whipping an animal for egoist- human purposes is "good". A horse is ""designed"" for ridinng? Ok, true... but in freedom, everytime the horse wanted just for fun, or when necessary, not when whipped. Do you want your boss to estimulate you by beating you every time he wanted to do things faster or better ??? I hope that someday, people could start to understand that animals are not for human fun or purposes.
DIASDEMUSICA it says effective hunny
You are LEGEND For saying that, I agree with you