Ive recently helped load and uload bands at a Grindcore festival and then helped soundguy with his things. There definitely is something like too much distortion, as after certain point, it makes the sound smaller and smaller. Many of the guys had awesome speed and rythm, but keeping the madness down without noisegate is skill on its own. And I admire the guys, who can do it.
With a slight delay... No bro, thanks to you for all the attention that you give me/us whether on yours or Thomann's channel. Тhanks for all the videos that you makin' and helpin' us grow up into better techs/guitarists and you helpin' us choose the better/right equipment. You deserve more than almost 42K subscribers. God bless you, and as always... don't stop bro, just keep doin' this. We're watchin'... Cheers and keep rockin' 🤘
You and a few others in this community are the real reason why I spend my weekends filming and pretty much all my weekday evenings with editing these videos. I don’t care if it sounds cheesy, in a funny way we’re family. Tone family, haha! Luv ya bro, thanks for being awesome. 🙏
Good video Kris, as always 😄 I used to play metal too, with a lot of distortion. Now, like you I'm more into clean and low gain tones ! But I don't Say no to Big sounds from Time to Time 🤣
the question about distortion is interesting. i think especially in the modern prog/metal is less gain but it is music for guitar players and not for everybody. - if that makes sense :D i play still the brootz but les gain and less distortion is the key to get a huge tone and good mix. great video as always! 👍
Love running multiple ODs and Distortion pedals together with using the volume knob and tone knob to do it all I seem to control bright dark clean etc with pedals varied and mixed.
there is merit and art on both styles. I see a lot of "finger athletes" that has a lot of style, art and creativity and I also saw a lot of jealous "slow and cool" players that says anything to justify their lack of practice. Just listen and play whatever you like and enjoy, there is no merit in ranking art and expression. Life is short, enjoy it.
I will say that most great metal players that I've looked up to, and especially ones I've personally learned from (although there weren't many) excel at clean playing, as well as high gain technique. I've personally found that most serious/dedicated metal players practice all their high gain playing repetitiously, at clean, low volumes, over and over, until it's played clean and flawless. Those players may struggle with low-mid gain creatively, because they may not focus on that type of playing, but the higher the skill level, the quicker the player is sble to adapt to/learn new styles and techniques. Same with low-mid gain players: I've seen many on RUclips who have surprisingly great technique and riff ability, when demoing high gain gear on their channels. They may not employ enough proper/efficient muting and picking techniques, but that's about all they would have to develop, besides the memorization and muscle memory of more European/classicaly influenced scales, modes, etc. Again I believe it has to do with the high skill level/years of experience that directly translates to adapting to new styles and techniques.
I'm a heavy rock and metal musician. My approach to distortion is kind of like using salt in cooking: just enough to get the taste right - but never more. It's a delicate thing. I use distortion for the right sound and texture, not to cover up anything or make stuff easier. Getting a good distorted tone for heavy rock is not a crutch, but more of a well-honed craft. And you need to be able to control that distortion too. For "real" heaviness (as opposed to a primitive "wall of sound" approach which is a cheap thrill), there has to be a certain directness to the tone, you need to be able to feel how the pickup tracks and the dynamics of the amp. It needs to be tight and lean and never overly saturated. And obviously without the bass guitar it's just one side of the medal. I would say that most modern metal musicians don't understand much of tone at all and use gain, distortion and compression to a point where everything sounds absolutely the same, toneless, flubby and just "massive" - not "hard" or "heavy".
Hi Kris as you have a Mark III, could you please do a vídeo showing how to get the John Sykes 1987 sound using it? I believe that this was the amp used in that album.
Hi Kris, great sounds without the amp! How was the feeling and did you ever went ampless live? I had a similar music-journey, but with lots of Mittelalter-Rock and Pagan-Metal 😂
It wasn’t easy unfortunately. First: the pickguard needs three new holes and a bigger routing. Second: the body routing needs to be modded too, even if it has a humbucker routing. If you’re not afraid of using tools it’s doable though. Cheers
@@KrisBarocsi Hey, thanks so much for replying! One last question about that if you have the time: SD makes the Tangbanger "tele-style" pickup, designed to fit in a strat w/o the routing you described. Did you feel that the tele-ness of the Antiquity is that much better that it justified the extra modification to your strat that it required?
It hides some of them for sure...and makes other jump right out. I listen to a lot of hiphop..."f*ck rap, they are just talking over a beat, i could do that" is something i hear a lot...sure, they might be able to fool dude from down the street and their uncle who knows nothing about rap, but i can guarantee you that if any of the people saying that actually tried in front of a crowd that know the style, they would be laughed off stage...everyone would know they have no clue what they are doing in 2 seconds flat. Hey, what a weird coincidence...that is not too dissimilar from non-high gain guitarists talking about modern metal players actually 😉
Yes: - amp is cheating - fuzz is cheating - DS-1 is cheating really really bad - even a PU on a classic or steel guitar is cheating Bottom line: only wood is good 🤣
@@KrisBarocsi Sorry ... this time i ranted 'bout cork sniffing tech averts ... I got excluded from a forum whilst this stupid wood discussion ... so i shy off here too I forgot to state: Teles are evil too because of: PUs & rolled steel bridge 🤣
Ive recently helped load and uload bands at a Grindcore festival and then helped soundguy with his things.
There definitely is something like too much distortion, as after certain point, it makes the sound smaller and smaller.
Many of the guys had awesome speed and rythm, but keeping the madness down without noisegate is skill on its own. And I admire the guys, who can do it.
Hey buddy, thanks for the comment! Exactly, finding the right amount of drive is the key. Too much washes everything together, that ain’t no good.
All the gain! Like Zakk Wylde said… you gotta know how to control it. 🤘🏽
Whoever manages to control a Zakk amount of gain earns all my respect. 🙌
With a slight delay... No bro, thanks to you for all the attention that you give me/us whether on yours or Thomann's channel. Тhanks for all the videos that you makin' and helpin' us grow up into better techs/guitarists and you helpin' us choose the better/right equipment. You deserve more than almost 42K subscribers. God bless you, and as always... don't stop bro, just keep doin' this. We're watchin'... Cheers and keep rockin' 🤘
You and a few others in this community are the real reason why I spend my weekends filming and pretty much all my weekday evenings with editing these videos. I don’t care if it sounds cheesy, in a funny way we’re family. Tone family, haha! Luv ya bro, thanks for being awesome. 🙏
Good video Kris, as always 😄
I used to play metal too, with a lot of distortion. Now, like you I'm more into clean and low gain tones ! But I don't Say no to Big sounds from Time to Time 🤣
Thanks for the upload, Kris. Use what works for your style of music is what I say.
the question about distortion is interesting. i think especially in the modern prog/metal is less gain but it is music for guitar players and not for everybody. - if that makes sense :D
i play still the brootz but les gain and less distortion is the key to get a huge tone and good mix.
great video as always! 👍
First..cool Video Kris! 🤘🤛🤘
You da man 👊😌
Love running multiple ODs and Distortion pedals together with using the volume knob and tone knob to do it all I seem to control bright dark clean etc with pedals varied and mixed.
there is merit and art on both styles. I see a lot of "finger athletes" that has a lot of style, art and creativity and I also saw a lot of jealous "slow and cool" players that says anything to justify their lack of practice. Just listen and play whatever you like and enjoy, there is no merit in ranking art and expression. Life is short, enjoy it.
I will say that most great metal players that I've looked up to, and especially ones I've personally learned from (although there weren't many) excel at clean playing, as well as high gain technique. I've personally found that most serious/dedicated metal players practice all their high gain playing repetitiously, at clean, low volumes, over and over, until it's played clean and flawless. Those players may struggle with low-mid gain creatively, because they may not focus on that type of playing, but the higher the skill level, the quicker the player is sble to adapt to/learn new styles and techniques.
Same with low-mid gain players: I've seen many on RUclips who have surprisingly great technique and riff ability, when demoing high gain gear on their channels. They may not employ enough proper/efficient muting and picking techniques, but that's about all they would have to develop, besides the memorization and muscle memory of more European/classicaly influenced scales, modes, etc. Again I believe it has to do with the high skill level/years of experience that directly translates to adapting to new styles and techniques.
I'm a heavy rock and metal musician. My approach to distortion is kind of like using salt in cooking: just enough to get the taste right - but never more. It's a delicate thing. I use distortion for the right sound and texture, not to cover up anything or make stuff easier. Getting a good distorted tone for heavy rock is not a crutch, but more of a well-honed craft. And you need to be able to control that distortion too. For "real" heaviness (as opposed to a primitive "wall of sound" approach which is a cheap thrill), there has to be a certain directness to the tone, you need to be able to feel how the pickup tracks and the dynamics of the amp. It needs to be tight and lean and never overly saturated. And obviously without the bass guitar it's just one side of the medal. I would say that most modern metal musicians don't understand much of tone at all and use gain, distortion and compression to a point where everything sounds absolutely the same, toneless, flubby and just "massive" - not "hard" or "heavy".
A lot of wisdom in your words. It’s all about the RIGHT amount of drive. 💪
Black-Out, oh yes! I still listen to their music regularly nowadays too!
Cool!! I love the song writing of the Csányi brothers. 💛
I think once you dive into the high gain stuff , with different guitars and amps there will be subtle differences that will matter
Hello Kris. I see a nice amp never featured on the channel in the background :-)
Consider it a teaser 😆 It’s coming up very soon and it is gonna be awesome. 💪
@@KrisBarocsi I bet. Seeing the size of it, it must be a beast !!!
Hi Kris as you have a Mark III, could you please do a vídeo showing how to get the John Sykes 1987 sound using it?
I believe that this was the amp used in that album.
Hi Kris,
great sounds without the amp! How was the feeling and did you ever went ampless live?
I had a similar music-journey, but with lots of Mittelalter-Rock and Pagan-Metal 😂
Kris, how difficult was it to get the 50s Antiquity tele pickup to fit in your strat?
It wasn’t easy unfortunately. First: the pickguard needs three new holes and a bigger routing. Second: the body routing needs to be modded too, even if it has a humbucker routing. If you’re not afraid of using tools it’s doable though. Cheers
@@KrisBarocsi Hey, thanks so much for replying! One last question about that if you have the time: SD makes the Tangbanger "tele-style" pickup, designed to fit in a strat w/o the routing you described. Did you feel that the tele-ness of the Antiquity is that much better that it justified the extra modification to your strat that it required?
"Jimi Hendrix was a cheater" 😂
Kinda. It definitely hides your mistakes.
It helps with solo lines, true. But for rhythm… You have to be accurate otherwise it will end up being a huge mess with high gain.
It hides some of them for sure...and makes other jump right out. I listen to a lot of hiphop..."f*ck rap, they are just talking over a beat, i could do that" is something i hear a lot...sure, they might be able to fool dude from down the street and their uncle who knows nothing about rap, but i can guarantee you that if any of the people saying that actually tried in front of a crowd that know the style, they would be laughed off stage...everyone would know they have no clue what they are doing in 2 seconds flat. Hey, what a weird coincidence...that is not too dissimilar from non-high gain guitarists talking about modern metal players actually 😉
Yes:
- amp is cheating
- fuzz is cheating
- DS-1 is cheating really really bad
- even a PU on a classic or steel guitar is cheating
Bottom line: only wood is good 🤣
So we‘re back talking about… wood. Let‘s not go there. For more than just one reason. 🤣
@@KrisBarocsi
Sorry ... this time i ranted 'bout cork sniffing tech averts ... I got excluded from a forum whilst this stupid wood discussion ... so i shy off here too
I forgot to state: Teles are evil too because of: PUs & rolled steel bridge 🤣
@@matzer8846 You shall never shy off here. Whatever your point of view is regarding wood or any other part of guitars. 🤗