@@CrystalGreymon yeah, the second form was stated in multiple guidebooks to have a power level of 1,100,000 because of said line. The 3rd form is supposed to have a power lever of around 2,500,000 because the guidbook it was in was written with help from Toriama. Finally the final form is accepted to have a power level of between 120,000,000 and 125,000,000.
What if Radditz returned after the Namek Saga and Frieza fight, adding in the "What if Radditz turned Good" timeline... only this time, with Gine involved!!
@@RedDragonForce2 Considering the reason Raditz didn't stay on Earth was to avoid the attention of Vegeta and Frieza, once Frieza's dead and Vegeta is cowed, there's no reason why he wouldn't come back.
@Chase Valliere Yup. And it's gonna be adorable. Imagine Gine's reaction to her daughter in law Launch and her dual personalities that switch by sneezing.
Pretty sure Kakarot won't let Mama get hurt. As soon as Gine stands her ground and Frieza makes his move, Kakarot gets between them, stopping Frieza's strike without even trying, a glare in his eyes that promised pain. This was a gaze oh so familiar to Frieza's eyes that he had to take a moment to comprehend. 'This... This look. I've seen it before,' thinks the Galactic Emperor, before recognition dawned on him, 'It couldn't be!!' Kakarot's face flashes to a similar looking one with a scar on his face. This Monkey was like Bardock, the fool who DARED stand between him and Planet Vegeta. Only this time... the look carries weight in a way Frieza had never felt before. "Not my mother, you giant Ice Box!!" said Kakarot. It was barely above a whisper, but the words echoed as if it was a planet exploding. Kakarot means business, and he won't let this Tyrant hurt his mother.
I could see Gine seeing this through... Frieza's second form at least. She is going to take a beating but the fact she dishes out as good as she takes and has real martial arts training means she can continue to go toe-to-toe with the Galactic Emperor. Which will be awe-inspiring to both her son and the Prince... ...And then Frieza goes into third form and completely dominates the battle. Sorry Gine, you're awesome but the power jumps are a pill.
Timoy Lumontad I mean, if we want her to go Super Saiyan, she DOES need one or two zenkai boosts to put her on par with Kakarot, so . . . Ride ‘em cowboy, anyone? Hey, it’s cruel, but it’d work.
That was done originally at what he claimed was 1% power. Goku was supposed to be at 3 million while 1% of Freeza's power would be only 1.2 million, and the fight didn't really make sense with those numbers, but regardless, Freeza had a lot of powering up he could do yet so he could still do to Gine what he did to Krillin. And unlike Krillin, Gine hasn't been wished back yet so it's not as big of a deal. I think the closer connection of being Goku's mother is going to balance out with the "can't be wished back now" fear from the original so we still get "and the story continues as per normal" for Goku vs Freeza.
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Here's a particular idea that I thought would be interesting given the current Super Manga Arc. What if Jaco returned to find the Saiyan Child, during DB? Basically what if Jaco actually came back around the time of DB cause he realized the Saiyan child he was sent to eliminate was actually alive. We never have a real estimate on Jaco's strength so it'd interesting to think how good of a match he'd put up against Kid Goku plus it could also bring other potentially changing consequences like Goku discovering his origin as a Saiyan in his childhood rather than adulthood
Goku glaring at Vegeta, his dad would say. Super Broly Bardock: "That's my boy!" Special Bardock: "Hmph, I guess." But what he's thinking "Good work, runt."
Damn. Gine sure has come a long way from a kitchen staff member. The visual of her going toe to toe with the first form Frieza is pretty epic and telling of her jealousy from where it started to its current iteration. I hope she can keep this pace up. Your version of Gine is quite an interesting character who comes into her own. I can't wait to find out what happens next time, one WhatIf DBZ!
Was kind of expecting you to do the whole Freeza fight in one go, but you know what? I can dig a slow burn, because this part was really good. Loved having Gine fight Freeza. I just hope the next part doesn’t take another three months, because I really want to see this play out. And just to reiterate my personal desires: Gine. Kakarot. Super Saiyan tag team. Do it and I will love you forever.
A pure mind consumed by rage.... Gine, the purest minded saiyajin we've ever seen, feeling the effects of her saiyajin blood for the first time... Goku being more in touch with his heritage, possibly making him slightly less pure (he did just threaten to kill Vegeta afterall)... Is Gine gonna be the one to go SSJ first in this one? That would be an awesome twist!
I honestly feel that Frieza's gonna reference Bardock like he did in the original story and send Gine into a rage. Kinda makes me think she'll even use Saiyan Spirit.
I really hope that I don't have to wait like 7 more wreaks again to see the next episode of this master piece of a story. IM STILL WAITING FOR DRAGON BALL G&K( Gine and Kakarot )!!!!!!!! Love your work Mazako. Keep it up. 👍
I think Goku should step in to face 2nd Form Frieza and his appearance would jog Frieza’s memory to where he says something like, “Huh... you remind me of someone. You look like that low-class Saiyan renegade who dared to stand in my way. Oh I get it! You must be his son, aren’t you?” Then he looks at Gine again and figures it all out. “Yes it’s all coming together now. That woman is your mother also. Well... I’ll soon make you realize your quest for vengeance is all for naught!”
Goku could have knocked up Chi Chi after having defeated Freeza and King Cold in the original timeline. Everything happens as normal but baby Trunks and baby Goten would survive the initial Android attack. Gohan would then have two students to train to be Earth's protectors. Ideally they don't introduce fusion so that both Trunks and Goten can actually have individual and unique personalities.
Here's how I see this going 1.Gine gets injured and healed by dende. 2. Frieza kills dende 3. Vegeta fights frieza 4. Vegeta dies 5. Goku fights frieza 6. Frieza kills Goku 5. Gine turn Super Saiyan 6. Earth dragon brings back everyone killed (except Goku) 7. Vegeta is crushed he's not the legendary Super Saiyan but eventually helps Gine in return for her teaching him Super Saiyan later on. 8. Frieza gets smoked 9. Namek still intact namekian dragon balls bring back Goku.
@@mplumley95 touche my friend I was thinking of the original storyline and the limitations of the Earth's dragon balls..... this makes things even more interesting.
I thought of some what if ideas. 1. What if one of the Z fighters were to become an Android (or maybe even a saiyan z fighter become an Android)? 2. What if King Yemma brought back Frieza Uub style? 3. What if Goku the first time he went to the other world? This essentially meaning we could have Goku teach the rest of the crew the technique, we get far more fusions in the story, and the lower tier characters could factor more in the story
In my opinion he will notice that Goku looks like bardock.. And when Gine says she is going to fight him, Freeza will horn up goku, because he is relaxed enough to get damaged.. And he will get another zenkai boost and gine will got her rage and something close to the false super saiyan. Or kaioken high enough..
When I woke up a little bit ago, I was thinking, "It's Tuesday, that means a what-if from Masako. Will it be Raditz part 13 where we cover the Broly movie? Nah, probably not yet on that one. I'm betting on either Gine or Bardock. Third would be Goku was female." I guess I was right, kind of.
Gine: Vegeta, power ball...now! Freiza: Oh, how cute! And what is that little orb supposed to do... *Sees Gine start to transform.* Oh... Gine: Kakarrot...don't look...at it...! *Transforms and roars.*
At this point, I'd say that Gine, hot on the success against Freiza, wouldn't be able to quiet her Saiyan blood, and although she would lose, wouldn't be about to let Freiza go without a fight. This is the point where the rest of the Z warriors, and Vegeta start getting in on the fight, with Dende healing them, Krillin's Destructo disc being able to do some small amounts of damage, yamcha defending Dende just incase Freiza attacks, and Gohan would probably interrupt Freiza when he severely damages Gine, his hidden potential exploding outwards for the first time this whole story, "You're not going to do that to my Grandma!". Food for thought, lol.
It would be kinda cool if Gine was the one who wemt Super Saiyan from pike Goku Dying or something, but this was an awesome part super excited for the next one
The more I listen to this, the more I've hoping that we'll have /Gine/ be the one to reach Super Saiyan, rather than Goku. I know, I know, Goku achieving it here is a major moment of the series...but /why/ is it? It's a major power-up, it's an amazing scene, and leads to a brutal beatdown, yes. And Goku has every reason to be angry at Frieza...but...it's all rather sudden, isn't it? Think about it. Goku only learns in canon who Frieza even /is/ on his way to Namek. He fights some of Frieza's minions after all of the Namekians are already dead, then goes a few rounds with Frieza during which Dende, Vegeta, and Krillen are killed. Everything else Frieza ever did was...kind of irrelevant. Despite what Vegeta might have said, Goku isn't motivated by the loss of the Saiyans, good or bad alike. He's not motivated by ending Frieza's tyranny because he barely understands it exists. And yes, Kakarot here might know more because of what Gine has taught him but...it's all abstract. He grew up in a loving home in which he was happy. He has no reason to hate Frieza until...just now, really. But Gine? Gine /knows/ what it's like to live in fear of Frieza because she has. She knows what it's like to see your world transformed by his cruelty because she lived on the Vegeta that Frieze helped make. Frieza (albeit indirectly) took her eldest son from her and gave him a life filled with pain and subjugation. Frieza's minions tormented Bardock, and Frieza killed Bardock personally, alongside her race. Gine spent a lifetime afraid of this man. And now she's stronger. She's /so much stronger/. And it's still not enough. More than that, it creates a fascinating comparison between them. Frieza is the strongest in the universe, not because of training or work but because he was born that way. He was lucky, a big fish in a small pond, and he used that to destroy, conquer, and fufill whatever base desire he could have. Why? Because he /could./ Because who could stop him. Gine? Gine was born weak, treated ill by everyone save a single person, before losing even that, and crash landing with her son in the smallest of ponds, where even she was strong. She was the strongest without even trying. And what did she do? Raise her son, and be content. Only starting to use her power to fight a corrupt monster that threatened the peace. She struggled and earned every increase in strength to get here, always doubting herself but pushing forward to spend time with her son, to help protect this peace she'd found and never before dreamed of. And this monster, born strong and never working a day in his life, who practices cruelty as a profession and a hobby both, this abomination wants to take that from her. Take everything /again/. Imagine that confrontation. The Spirit Bomb has dropped, (we'll assume Gine gets wrecked in the 2nd-3rd form phase and gets healed up so she's Zenkai boosted up to around the same place Goku would be in canon). Frieza crawls out of the damage...and snipes Goku because /no./ Not happening again. And Gine's lost everything again. Her son. Her baby boy. The one she raised all this time, killed by this coward. This tyrant. This /creature/ this ABOMINATION that lives on fear, and pain, and hate. The best of who the Saiyans could be killed by the monster who encouraged the worst in them. And he laughs at her, "Oh, I'm sorry, Saiyan Woman. But don't worry...you'll see him again soon." And she doesn't scream. She doesn't cry. She whispers a promise to the Galactic Tyrant. To Goku. To Bardock. To herself. "I. Won't. Let you. Get. Away. With. This." And it's a promise. A promise stretching over a lifetime. Frieza will get away with /none/ of it. Because he's made her afraid. He's made her a victim. He's taken everything from her. Now it's his turn to be afraid. His turn to be a victim. His turn to have everything taken. And he starts to offer a quip. And she just looks at him and murmurs, "You think you're funny. But your only joke is that we care. That we think we matter. That /anything/ matters, when you can take it away." And she punches him. "Pain is funny. Well. Are you laughing?" ...I don't think what Frieza would say, or the rest of the scene would matter. Because Frieza doesn't matter anymore. It's not his story anymore. It's Gine's, fully. She might meet Raditz on her back to earth, follow that thread for a bit. But. What's important here is that Gine, who never wanted to fight, who only came to Namek as a last adventure with her son, became what Vegeta so desperately wanted to be and what Frieza was born into: the strongest mortal in the universe. But where they would subjugate and hurt because they can, because it's their 'right', Gine wants only to protect and be content. She knows what it means to be weak in a world of strength, and so she takes care to walk softly in a world of cardboard because she would never make someone who doesn't deserve it feel like that again. Because she knows how those footsteps echo. Besides. Who doesn't want to see the Android Saga where two teens who've had their lives wrecked and then granted unbelieveable power meet Gine, Slayer of Tyrants, Baker of Cookies?
Poetic would be the same word but I agree this would be amazing. During masako's last fan art video he seemed like he wasn't sure of super sayian gine but never know.
BUT MASAKO!!! If I remember right Gine knows kaioken! And from what I read friezas 2nd form tops out at about 1.3 million. Gine could feasibly stand against his 2nd form as well. Also would u consider having Gine aquire super Saiyan first? It kinda sounds like she's gonna go the nappa route soon and retire, it'd be a great last hurrah to have the defeat of frieza under her belt before she does
Vegeta’s dreams are rapidly going down the toilet. And with Krillin’s ace in the hole, the Destructo disk, the prince’s tail is now gone..You could call it a royal flush 😏
Clearly, Gine will continue the fight, but get pushed back. Frieza has his way with Vegeta, then Kakarot. Seeing this, seeing her beloved son whom she loves so much on the verge of death, Gine ascends to Super Saiyan. Frieza doesn't even get the chance to transform into his final form as Gine, with a single kick, literally sends Frieza flying all the way around the world un able to stop himself. As Frieza's path brings him back to Gine, he barely has the time to process what just happened before Gine clotheslines him into oblivion.
I cannot express the joy I feel when I watch your What-ifs and I'm so glad that you are willing to completely explore each of them. The Gine what-if is among my favorites (not that I have any less affection for the others mind you) and it makes me really happy to see the next installment. Thank you for being amazing and enriching the DBZ world for us.
They'd betray Vegeta, still lose but Goku would jump in save the day like in the normal show, yes with help from his friends of course, then as Nappa and Raditz are healing up Nappa would still chastise Raditz for being a weakling until Raditz reminds him how "you do realize MY Brother kakarot sent the prince packing just yesterday" shutting Nappa up at least momentarily causing Goku and Raditz to chuckle in their respective hospital beds since they don't have senzu beans at the time.
But if you double cross us, it’ll be more than your tail that gets cut off Vegeta: What!? You’re going to castrate me!! Goku: chi chi threatens people with that all the time
11:54 Gine: I'd focus less on your scouter and more on that mountain over there. Freeza: Frankly I'd say it's more of a plat- *Punch* -EEEEAAAAAAUUUUU! *Crash* Also, Gine killing Zarbon and Dodoria, Perfect :)
I say Kakarot first, then Freeza gets an upper hand on him to make everyone thinks he’s dead, then Gine attacks Freeza in a grief-stricken rage, then SHE goes Super Saiyan, then Kakarot comes back and Freeza gets tag-teamed into oblivion. Fun times all around.
@@mplumley95 No. Freezer kills Goku who ends up in King Kai's planet and Gine loses it. Gine: "THAT'S MY BABY BOOOOOOOYYYYYY!!!!" *turns into the first SSJ*
Alex Macmillan Freeza could fire a Death Beam at her and wound her like he did Piccolo in the original story. She could get healed later, but her getting THAT close to death could potentially trigger Kakarot’s Super Saiyan transformation. I’m imagining a teary-eyed exchange before she slips into unconsciousness, then Kakarot goes ballistic. I mean, it’d be more original than killing Krillin again, and after a heal she could come back and potentially go Super Saiyan herself. If Freeza were to temporarily get the upper hand on Kakarot and the latter’s power level disappeared (this happened in the anime, leading to a filler scene with Gohan confronting Freeza), I have no doubt that Gine would throw herself at Freeza in anguish. All the tyrant would have to do is push her buttons a little at that point, and . . . well, Hell hath no fury.
I’m just joining the channel and man brother these stories are so compelling! My kids and I have turned it into a “movie night” if you will. We say Gine tells FREEZA “ The Hard Way!...This is for Bardock and the Sayians!” And charges full tilt at Freeza. Can’t wait for the next installment! 👍🏽
He'll be the most broken character at the end of db franchise topping beerus and being equal to jiren. And yeah it's a safe bet that no way he's strong as whis!!
That last scene with Gine in the movie almost made me cry. "Don't forget us Kakarot" Yet he still does..........MASAKO I NEED WHAT IF'S TO FILL THE HOLE IN MY HEART!!!!!!!
@@alphawolf7417 we know he doesn't I was meaning the head injury is what people think caused it. It is would be interesting how things would change if he remembered his parents.
what if ....Vegeta and Goku both went to earth as kids 1. grandpa Gohan would have had his hands full, and after the two of them get a blow to the head, they get along great, Goku still being himself in the anime while Vegeta still retains some knowledge of his heritage 2. when first encountering the dragon, Vegeta would have had his heart set on a. reviving the saiyens that died due to Frieza or b. find out if he and Goku were truly the last (so no surprise visit from Raditz, or Napa [optional Browly]) 3. Gohan and Trunks would have been about the same age making them a force to be reckoned with in the Buu arc [these are just a few ideas that could happen that i thought up]
If that'd happen then it'd be just like if they were kid trunks and Goten, Goku would be Vegeta's lackey basically singing his praise's and Vegeta would...well ..be Vegeta. I'm saying this as a Huge Vegeta fan when I say it'd get kinda sad after a while
Aww man I've have recently watched a lot of these and all these videos really tickle my dragon Ball lore button, I really really enjoy all your videos and can't wait to see what happens next in this particular story
@@ChrisingoXD47 frieza death beams raditz raditz slowly collapses krillin comes to rescue raditz but krillin is blown up as raditz passes causing mom and son super Saiyan duo vs frieza.. but kakarot would be like mom....let me finish frieza ….Bardock would've wanted me to....I never knew my father but...I know its what he would want
won't change much, he'd be weaker then Ssj 2 Gohan and Super perfect cell. I guess the same ki blast would probably knock cell to the ground instead of bothering him tho.
Whats the proof of this? I know there's about 20 different power level charts at that point, and that ssj2 is about a 100x multiplier. The self proclaimed best power level scale puts ssj Vegeta at 820,000,000, ssj2 Gohan is 1,800,000,000. That would mean ssj2 Vegeta is 8,200,000,000. Even if that isnt over ssj1, that's still 1,640,000,000. Gohan was at about 1,200,000,000 after being damaged by S.P. Cell It's perfectly reasonable he coukd deal some damage, considering the final flash would have obliterated P. Cell.
@@TheCompleteMental where did you get those numbers? Even an hypothical Ssj 2 Goku during the time would be weaker then Ssj 2 Gohan. It's pretty much this: Ssj Goku (warm up)< FP ssj Vegeta (stated that Vegeta can do better in the warm up)< FP ssj Goku (Vegeta was pissed that he was surpassed again)< FP ssj Gohan (Gohan clearly sees goku's movements casually) therefore Vegeta
I seriously can't wait to see the next part of this What If story. I adore Gine, and I really wish that they could have implemented her into the main series. I mean, you never know, Goku could go on some journey through Otherworld and meet her, but with how Goku is now in Super...yeah, I don't think I'd enjoy it quite as much, he's just not the same character that he was in Z. Still though, doesn't change that it would be amazing for Goku to actually meet his mother
That would be an interesting story. I could see Radifz being ths tough older brother looking after Kakarrot and the both of them training under Grandpa Gohan
I recently had a discussion with a friend in which he cited a theory that tech advancements are likely to be achieved by someone else within 10 years if something prevents their completion. With that in mind, Cell and the Androids could have been created even if Goku hadn’t stomped the RR Army and I spited Dr. Gero. I think a cool what if might be “what if none of the Saiyans escaped planet Vegeta. Maybe Raditz shows up as just a regular conqueror and monkeystomps Piccolo Daimao, a Resistance forms led by Mai (similar to the Goku Black/ future Trunks time line) and then the Androids and Cell are created as liberators by Bulma. That presents an opportunity to create some unique Androids, maybe Krillin undergoes the process. Master Rosho becomes General Roshi after Kame House is destroyed and all his girly magazines go up in flames. Maybe some weird “Android core” plot line happens since there are no dragon balls so bringing the Androids back requires clones to be grown around the cores. Maybe the cores contain fragments of the now inert dragon balls. A lot of directions to go there I think.
He may return to it masako has a ton of what ifs. But with broly being Canon it's hard to say what will happen. Wait tell we get what if broly was sent to earth
WHAT IF GINE WENT WITH GOKU? PART 8 SPOILER ALERT: Krillin uses Solar Flare to blind Freeza, Yamcha then cuts Freeza in half with his Sword, then Tien does a Kikoho to Freeza's remains. Gine says to Kakarot, Gohan & Vegeta: (□-□) Damn, ( •_•)>/■-■ Never thought it would be that easy for Freeza to get (/■-■) ... ICED-OUT *Everyone laughs, even Vegeta* *Vegeta goes with the Z-fighters to live on earth* *Cooler, Dr. Gero, and Bibadi are instantly defeated whenever they show up* THE END
Correcting Yamcha uses Solar Flare to blind Freeza, Tenshinhan then uses Kikoho to paralyze him, then Kuririn cuts Freeza in half with his Kienzan, then Chi Chi ends with a Kamehameha the remains of Freeza.
tulio pereira Yamcha has never used solar flare, it's fair to say he does not know how to do it. Yamcha's only incapacitating technique he has would be the after-image technique, and that would only work if he is faster than Freeza. tulio pereira your correction is invalid.
Kind of a random thought but if Raditz and Bardock were there and someone like Guru knew of the ssj god ritual and every saiyan got along, then they couldve skipped straight to ssj God and wouldve been invincible. But thats a hell of a stretch for a what if.
I feel like Gine will continue to fight Freezer and the fight will go much as it did with Piccolo when he fused with Nail. Though at this moment, the primal instinct in Gine allows her to use the Kaioken successfully and catch up with Freezer's power level (maybe even surpass it eventually). Freezer then reveals his third form and gains the upper hand against Gine, which then leads to Vegeta thinking "Hah, the low-class wench failed. Looks like I will have to step in". He does so and Freezer with his guard down (since he was picking on Gine) is sent flying by Vegeta's punch. Not even realizing it, Vegeta feels he has finally become a Super Saiyan. This pushes Freezer to transform into his Final Form because Vegeta just annoyed him. With Gine's power increase, if you say (MasakoX) she was at 750,000, her power level after receiving a Zenkai Boost (If you treat it the same way Goku received his like the original version of the Ginyu Saga), Gine's power would reach just under 25 million, surpassing both Kakarrot and Freezer (while at just 2%). I believe she would have suffered the same scenario Piccolo suffered when fighting Third Form Freezer (Being shot by multiple Death Beams nearly killing Gine/Piccolo) After receiving this power increase from Dende's healing, she notices that both Vegeta and Kakarrot are fighting Freezer together. Kakarrot must have known Vegeta wouldn't stand a chance and decided to go and help him. (Like you said Masako, Vegeta would have achieved a power level equal to Gine's before the Zenkai boost, making Vegeta: 50,000) Vegeta would have tried to make Kakarrot leave but then is convinced that he would die if he fought Freezer alone. With after the two have fought of Freezer for a bit, they notice a massive boost in power, It's Gine and she is ready to fight Freezer. The two back down and let Gine go for round 2. While the fight between Frieza and Gine is going on, they would both be on an equal playing field. Freezer would have powered up a bit to match Gine's because Gine, much like she was a few minutes ago, would have wanted to embarrass her opponent and just let them power up. Like Mother, like Son "Kakarrot" Meanwhile, Goku and Vegeta need to think of a way to get stronger. Then they do what they did in the 'What if Goku married Bulma' episode, ki blast each other to the point of near-death so they could power up enough. Vegeta shoots Goku first so the following event happens. Gine notices a sudden power decrease from Goku and pauses in the middle of the battle. Freezer is able to gain an attack of opportunity and Gine is now on the backfoot. Sorry if this is a little too long, I just wanted to post my own theory.
For The What If Bardock Convinced The Saiyans Make It So That Both Goku And Bardock Become Super Saiyan At The Same Time As In The Original, Bardock Witnesses Raditz's Death By Frieza And Goku Witnesses Krillin's Death By Frieza
"750,000? That's more than 500,000".
Frieza got them quick maths
LOL
Did he forget his power level is 530,000?
@@BuggzyBX That's his suppressed form.
But he kept citing his growths in each of his transformations. Pretty sure he said his second form's over a million.
@@CrystalGreymon yeah, the second form was stated in multiple guidebooks to have a power level of 1,100,000 because of said line. The 3rd form is supposed to have a power lever of around 2,500,000 because the guidbook it was in was written with help from Toriama. Finally the final form is accepted to have a power level of between 120,000,000 and 125,000,000.
Raditiz: wait your what if is as popular as mine?!
Gine *Roshi sunglasses* : yup
I can see Gine doting on Ranch her granddaughter.
What if Radditz returned after the Namek Saga and Frieza fight, adding in the "What if Radditz turned Good" timeline... only this time, with Gine involved!!
@@RedDragonForce2
Considering the reason Raditz didn't stay on Earth was to avoid the attention of Vegeta and Frieza, once Frieza's dead and Vegeta is cowed, there's no reason why he wouldn't come back.
@Chase Valliere Yup. And it's gonna be adorable. Imagine Gine's reaction to her daughter in law Launch and her dual personalities that switch by sneezing.
@@TatsurouKaos Yup. A one happy family reunion.
Local Vegetable woman brutally destroys Freezer to such a degree, He’s Been Recoome’d.
*Recoome'T*
"I guess you could say he got, *freezer burn* "
@@miningllama5097 bruh .mp3
Vegeta-ble heh
I can just imagine Frieza yelling "HOW THE F*CK ARE YOU STRONGER THAN ME!?" and then Gine yelling "MOTHERLY LOVE!!!!"
"This is for Bardock...!"
Annnnnd chills Masako. Chills! Can we get this AU to Toriyama and Toei somehow?
Pretty sure Kakarot won't let Mama get hurt. As soon as Gine stands her ground and Frieza makes his move, Kakarot gets between them, stopping Frieza's strike without even trying, a glare in his eyes that promised pain. This was a gaze oh so familiar to Frieza's eyes that he had to take a moment to comprehend.
'This... This look. I've seen it before,' thinks the Galactic Emperor, before recognition dawned on him, 'It couldn't be!!'
Kakarot's face flashes to a similar looking one with a scar on his face. This Monkey was like Bardock, the fool who DARED stand between him and Planet Vegeta. Only this time... the look carries weight in a way Frieza had never felt before.
"Not my mother, you giant Ice Box!!" said Kakarot. It was barely above a whisper, but the words echoed as if it was a planet exploding. Kakarot means business, and he won't let this Tyrant hurt his mother.
And then frieza got decked
Niiice!!
@@user-cy7ki7ms1q in the snoz.
@@SrMissileMonkey And he's insane....from earth....
I think that Goku should just come flying in and kick freeza into a mountain.
Because he's 3x as powerful as 2nd form freeza.
That sounds badass.
Goku could had just vaporized 1 Form Frieza and end it all really soon
MrManu00 but this is dragon ball. So you know he’s gonna let him powerup
@@TheMisterbobman To have a better fight.
Eliminating a villain at their weakest & most vulnerable is illegal in most shounen series.
We need a What If Bardock was Sent To The Future (Preferably Future Trunk's Timeline)
Omg that would have so much potential
yes PLEASE make this happen
I am planning on making a FanFiction on that idea but he is sent to future cells timeline and he becomes the new hero of earth
Takahashi106 DBL THAT WAS MY IDEA LOL
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Yay everyone’s favorite golden Gilf!
Thank you senpai
Not golden quite yet. Maybe after a couple zenkai boosts.
what?
mplumley95 I meant golden in the “top tier” sense but with the way DBZ hands out power ups we all know it’ll happen eventually
I'm surprised Gine really did have spare clothes of the same outfit.
Gine went Super Mom on Frieza....Now I feel bad for Freezer.
FlashTale Creator Mamas are scary.
Yup, And Chi-chi makes that Very very True.
FlashTale Creator RIP all who cross Gine, Chichi, And Bulma.
Yup
ﹰI don't.😈
I was just wondering what the next what if part would be and I’m not disappointed that it was this story
Awesomeness masako
Freiza sounds like you want gine to serve u well u do need henchmen now ur others Abit corpsey
Anyone want Raditz to find love in this story?
Yulia S Yeah then he’d have a chance to have a different race mixed with saiyan DNA or he could meet tarble
13:58 gine: eh kill'em
goku: kill'em
vegeta: WHAT?! BUT I-
gine: almost murdered us on earth?
goku: almost killed all my friends?
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I could see Gine seeing this through... Frieza's second form at least. She is going to take a beating but the fact she dishes out as good as she takes and has real martial arts training means she can continue to go toe-to-toe with the Galactic Emperor. Which will be awe-inspiring to both her son and the Prince...
...And then Frieza goes into third form and completely dominates the battle. Sorry Gine, you're awesome but the power jumps are a pill.
She still has Oozaru though...
@@DarthSanguine I was taking Oozaru into account.
@@MaveriKat Oh right, 10% power
WORLD’S BEST MOMMA Time!!
Worlds best baby vaginitis lips
She's a GILF
@@timoylumontad3920 why
Frieza won't kill Gine in this form, Kakkarot is right there and too powerful to not stop a final killing blow type move.
Or Gine can handle herself.
Skippy *hits Gine with death beam*
Gine: Why the hell didnt ya stop that one?!
Goku: I thought you had it
Gine: Nooooooooooooo
@Omar Valentini Gine can use the kaioken to increase her power tho
Timoy Lumontad I mean, if we want her to go Super Saiyan, she DOES need one or two zenkai boosts to put her on par with Kakarot, so . . .
Ride ‘em cowboy, anyone? Hey, it’s cruel, but it’d work.
That was done originally at what he claimed was 1% power. Goku was supposed to be at 3 million while 1% of Freeza's power would be only 1.2 million, and the fight didn't really make sense with those numbers, but regardless, Freeza had a lot of powering up he could do yet so he could still do to Gine what he did to Krillin. And unlike Krillin, Gine hasn't been wished back yet so it's not as big of a deal. I think the closer connection of being Goku's mother is going to balance out with the "can't be wished back now" fear from the original so we still get "and the story continues as per normal" for Goku vs Freeza.
Are we ever going back to "What if Bardock convinced the Sayins"?
Thats the most interesting one hes done imo
DB multiverse has a special on that.
@@_zurr true oh yeah yeah
If you want something where the Saiyan race survives. I recommend you read "The Strongest Legend of Dragon Ball" It's a Really nice novel fanfic of DB! Basically it's kind of an Isekai so maybe you wouldn't like that since a lot of people don't seems to like isekai (it's gotten to the point where it's a meme afterall "Isekai of the season is-" and such) but It's done right in my opinion and is very enjoyable! So if you like novels I very much recommend it :> Nikolas Holmes
@@reinstriver5432 thank you for pointing me in the right direction, just one question though. What's an Isekai?
Did you ever think these Gine videos might turn into something like R&R?
Probably not, R&R is a big under taking that probably used up a lot of resources....would be cool if it were done in a web comic style though.
@@briandurio6479 YES!! That's a great idea
I'd be thrilled if that were to happen
I hope to God they do.
What if Gine's what if was one of the other universes introduced in the Tournament of Power?
Uh oh, Gine is about to get hurumphed....
Air-headed Aviator She's gonna go Super Saiyan when Frieza kills her son.
"Wait, you're here for Vegeta? Not us? ... Yeah, we have no problem with that, we'll stand down."
What if Mr. Satan trained with Master Roshi?
He would be as useless as krillin
He’d probably faint when he figures out the use of Ki.
@@zhikos_6441 krillin is the strongest human you know
@@pheonix_soldier true but he stilll doesn't do much in the show
I just want the world champ even better!
Here's a particular idea that I thought would be interesting given the current Super Manga Arc.
What if Jaco returned to find the Saiyan Child, during DB?
Basically what if Jaco actually came back around the time of DB cause he realized the Saiyan child he was sent to eliminate was actually alive. We never have a real estimate on Jaco's strength so it'd interesting to think how good of a match he'd put up against Kid Goku plus it could also bring other potentially changing consequences like Goku discovering his origin as a Saiyan in his childhood rather than adulthood
Goku glaring at Vegeta, his dad would say.
Super Broly Bardock: "That's my boy!"
Special Bardock: "Hmph, I guess."
But what he's thinking "Good work, runt."
Damn. Gine sure has come a long way from a kitchen staff member. The visual of her going toe to toe with the first form Frieza is pretty epic and telling of her jealousy from where it started to its current iteration. I hope she can keep this pace up. Your version of Gine is quite an interesting character who comes into her own.
I can't wait to find out what happens next time, one WhatIf DBZ!
Was kind of expecting you to do the whole Freeza fight in one go, but you know what? I can dig a slow burn, because this part was really good. Loved having Gine fight Freeza. I just hope the next part doesn’t take another three months, because I really want to see this play out.
And just to reiterate my personal desires: Gine. Kakarot. Super Saiyan tag team. Do it and I will love you forever.
Vegeta: I need healing....
Gengi: - sneezes - ugh... I hope I'm not getting sick...Angela, I may require healing...
I’m already late for school..... might as well watch this video
Edit:Dang this got 100 likes thank you 😊
Me to
That's the way young man. There are priorities in life after all.
Me three
I graduated so I can't relate
Can't relate
A pure mind consumed by rage.... Gine, the purest minded saiyajin we've ever seen, feeling the effects of her saiyajin blood for the first time... Goku being more in touch with his heritage, possibly making him slightly less pure (he did just threaten to kill Vegeta afterall)... Is Gine gonna be the one to go SSJ first in this one? That would be an awesome twist!
I honestly feel that Frieza's gonna reference Bardock like he did in the original story and send Gine into a rage. Kinda makes me think she'll even use Saiyan Spirit.
Gine punches Frieza: "Feels good man."
I really hope that I don't have to wait like 7 more wreaks again to see the next episode of this master piece of a story. IM STILL WAITING FOR DRAGON BALL G&K( Gine and Kakarot )!!!!!!!! Love your work Mazako. Keep it up. 👍
12:02 if that were me, I'd be cackling like a mad man XD. If I punched Freeza that hard and set him flying I'd find it hilarious
I think Goku should step in to face 2nd Form Frieza and his appearance would jog Frieza’s memory to where he says something like, “Huh... you remind me of someone. You look like that low-class Saiyan renegade who dared to stand in my way. Oh I get it! You must be his son, aren’t you?” Then he looks at Gine again and figures it all out. “Yes it’s all coming together now. That woman is your mother also. Well... I’ll soon make you realize your quest for vengeance is all for naught!”
It would get Frieza to lose his mind faster than the original.
So we're ignoring that Gine is still naked after turning into her oozaru form in the previous story?
What if Goten had existed in the future?
How could that work?
He would die to the androids
Goku could have knocked up Chi Chi after having defeated Freeza and King Cold in the original timeline. Everything happens as normal but baby Trunks and baby Goten would survive the initial Android attack. Gohan would then have two students to train to be Earth's protectors. Ideally they don't introduce fusion so that both Trunks and Goten can actually have individual and unique personalities.
Goten would be better Future Trunks
In the future goten would exist
10:30 yeah don’t worry about it Frieza........Frieza!!!!!!
Here's how I see this going
1.Gine gets injured and healed by dende.
2. Frieza kills dende
3. Vegeta fights frieza
4. Vegeta dies
5. Goku fights frieza
6. Frieza kills Goku
5. Gine turn Super Saiyan
6. Earth dragon brings back everyone killed (except Goku)
7. Vegeta is crushed he's not the legendary Super Saiyan but eventually helps Gine in return for her teaching him Super Saiyan later on.
8. Frieza gets smoked
9. Namek still intact namekian dragon balls bring back Goku.
Unstable Trigger Kakarot hasn’t died yet in this What If, remember? He’d get revived by the Earth’s Dragon Balls.
@@mplumley95 touche my friend I was thinking of the original storyline and the limitations of the Earth's dragon balls..... this makes things even more interesting.
I thought of some what if ideas.
1. What if one of the Z fighters were to become an Android (or maybe even a saiyan z fighter become an Android)?
2. What if King Yemma brought back Frieza Uub style?
3. What if Goku the first time he went to the other world? This essentially meaning we could have Goku teach the rest of the crew the technique, we get far more fusions in the story, and the lower tier characters could factor more in the story
If Radditz is there I am feeling a double SSJ transformation after Gine bites it.
In my opinion he will notice that Goku looks like bardock.. And when Gine says she is going to fight him, Freeza will horn up goku, because he is relaxed enough to get damaged.. And he will get another zenkai boost and gine will got her rage and something close to the false super saiyan. Or kaioken high enough..
When I woke up a little bit ago, I was thinking, "It's Tuesday, that means a what-if from Masako. Will it be Raditz part 13 where we cover the Broly movie? Nah, probably not yet on that one. I'm betting on either Gine or Bardock. Third would be Goku was female." I guess I was right, kind of.
Gine: Vegeta, power ball...now!
Freiza: Oh, how cute! And what is that little orb supposed to do... *Sees Gine start to transform.* Oh...
Gine: Kakarrot...don't look...at it...! *Transforms and roars.*
At this point, I'd say that Gine, hot on the success against Freiza, wouldn't be able to quiet her Saiyan blood, and although she would lose, wouldn't be about to let Freiza go without a fight. This is the point where the rest of the Z warriors, and Vegeta start getting in on the fight, with Dende healing them, Krillin's Destructo disc being able to do some small amounts of damage, yamcha defending Dende just incase Freiza attacks, and Gohan would probably interrupt Freiza when he severely damages Gine, his hidden potential exploding outwards for the first time this whole story, "You're not going to do that to my Grandma!". Food for thought, lol.
Goku: *Okay, but I swear, if you cross us. There's be more than your tail will be cut off.*
Vegeta: :D
Before Watching: Hell yes part seven!
After Watching: o___o oh crap baskets
It would be kinda cool if Gine was the one who wemt Super Saiyan from pike Goku Dying or something, but this was an awesome part super excited for the next one
Another awesome video masakox has definitely got the best dragonball channel
The fact that your INTRO is telling people to subscribe and click the bell
ANNOYS ME TO NO END LIKE COME ON MASAKO!
Masako how about what if good had a twin or what if raditz, nappa, and Vegeta all turn good at the end of the Saiyan arc
I can't wait for that Super Saiyan Gine fanart thumbnail!!!
Please PLEASE let Gine become a Super Saiyan!!
7:04 Kakarot low-key threatening to castrate Vegeta.
The more I listen to this, the more I've hoping that we'll have /Gine/ be the one to reach Super Saiyan, rather than Goku. I know, I know, Goku achieving it here is a major moment of the series...but /why/ is it? It's a major power-up, it's an amazing scene, and leads to a brutal beatdown, yes. And Goku has every reason to be angry at Frieza...but...it's all rather sudden, isn't it?
Think about it. Goku only learns in canon who Frieza even /is/ on his way to Namek. He fights some of Frieza's minions after all of the Namekians are already dead, then goes a few rounds with Frieza during which Dende, Vegeta, and Krillen are killed. Everything else Frieza ever did was...kind of irrelevant. Despite what Vegeta might have said, Goku isn't motivated by the loss of the Saiyans, good or bad alike. He's not motivated by ending Frieza's tyranny because he barely understands it exists. And yes, Kakarot here might know more because of what Gine has taught him but...it's all abstract. He grew up in a loving home in which he was happy. He has no reason to hate Frieza until...just now, really.
But Gine? Gine /knows/ what it's like to live in fear of Frieza because she has. She knows what it's like to see your world transformed by his cruelty because she lived on the Vegeta that Frieze helped make. Frieza (albeit indirectly) took her eldest son from her and gave him a life filled with pain and subjugation. Frieza's minions tormented Bardock, and Frieza killed Bardock personally, alongside her race. Gine spent a lifetime afraid of this man. And now she's stronger. She's /so much stronger/. And it's still not enough.
More than that, it creates a fascinating comparison between them. Frieza is the strongest in the universe, not because of training or work but because he was born that way. He was lucky, a big fish in a small pond, and he used that to destroy, conquer, and fufill whatever base desire he could have. Why? Because he /could./ Because who could stop him. Gine? Gine was born weak, treated ill by everyone save a single person, before losing even that, and crash landing with her son in the smallest of ponds, where even she was strong. She was the strongest without even trying. And what did she do? Raise her son, and be content. Only starting to use her power to fight a corrupt monster that threatened the peace. She struggled and earned every increase in strength to get here, always doubting herself but pushing forward to spend time with her son, to help protect this peace she'd found and never before dreamed of.
And this monster, born strong and never working a day in his life, who practices cruelty as a profession and a hobby both, this abomination wants to take that from her. Take everything /again/.
Imagine that confrontation. The Spirit Bomb has dropped, (we'll assume Gine gets wrecked in the 2nd-3rd form phase and gets healed up so she's Zenkai boosted up to around the same place Goku would be in canon). Frieza crawls out of the damage...and snipes Goku because /no./ Not happening again.
And Gine's lost everything again. Her son. Her baby boy. The one she raised all this time, killed by this coward. This tyrant. This /creature/ this ABOMINATION that lives on fear, and pain, and hate. The best of who the Saiyans could be killed by the monster who encouraged the worst in them. And he laughs at her, "Oh, I'm sorry, Saiyan Woman. But don't worry...you'll see him again soon."
And she doesn't scream. She doesn't cry. She whispers a promise to the Galactic Tyrant. To Goku. To Bardock. To herself. "I. Won't. Let you. Get. Away. With. This." And it's a promise. A promise stretching over a lifetime. Frieza will get away with /none/ of it. Because he's made her afraid. He's made her a victim. He's taken everything from her.
Now it's his turn to be afraid. His turn to be a victim. His turn to have everything taken.
And he starts to offer a quip. And she just looks at him and murmurs, "You think you're funny. But your only joke is that we care. That we think we matter. That /anything/ matters, when you can take it away." And she punches him. "Pain is funny. Well. Are you laughing?"
...I don't think what Frieza would say, or the rest of the scene would matter. Because Frieza doesn't matter anymore. It's not his story anymore. It's Gine's, fully. She might meet Raditz on her back to earth, follow that thread for a bit. But. What's important here is that Gine, who never wanted to fight, who only came to Namek as a last adventure with her son, became what Vegeta so desperately wanted to be and what Frieza was born into: the strongest mortal in the universe. But where they would subjugate and hurt because they can, because it's their 'right', Gine wants only to protect and be content. She knows what it means to be weak in a world of strength, and so she takes care to walk softly in a world of cardboard because she would never make someone who doesn't deserve it feel like that again. Because she knows how those footsteps echo.
Besides. Who doesn't want to see the Android Saga where two teens who've had their lives wrecked and then granted unbelieveable power meet Gine, Slayer of Tyrants, Baker of Cookies?
Poetic would be the same word but I agree this would be amazing. During masako's last fan art video he seemed like he wasn't sure of super sayian gine but never know.
.....But Gine was still left naked after turning Ozaru, right?
I know, I’m incorrigible.
Oops. Oversight.
Could've at least given her armor. Masako makes mistakes like that every now and then.
gine could still technically have kept her old battle armor
Been waiting for this thank you o/ Now time for a Super Saiyan Gine ;)
Fingers crossed Gine continues kicking Frieza's ass in the next part although she may need Kakarot, Vegeta and the others to help out.
I prefer a Fan Series Dragon Ball more focusing Gine on Earth with Kakarott!! I like it name Dragon Ball G
Carolus Mark Ezra nah dragonball G&G
@Omar Valentini Goku and Gine.
G&K for Gine & Kakarot?
@@mplumley95 Yes
Dragon ball soup.
I love this and im looking forward the other what ifs
BUT MASAKO!!! If I remember right Gine knows kaioken! And from what I read friezas 2nd form tops out at about 1.3 million. Gine could feasibly stand against his 2nd form as well.
Also would u consider having Gine aquire super Saiyan first? It kinda sounds like she's gonna go the nappa route soon and retire, it'd be a great last hurrah to have the defeat of frieza under her belt before she does
Or even just have her enter False super Saiyan and have her almost transform but fail. Followed by Kakarot succeeding by imitating her
Vegeta’s dreams are rapidly going down the toilet. And with Krillin’s ace in the hole, the Destructo disk, the prince’s tail is now gone..You could call it a royal flush 😏
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
*3 years later* YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Hail masako
Clearly, Gine will continue the fight, but get pushed back. Frieza has his way with Vegeta, then Kakarot. Seeing this, seeing her beloved son whom she loves so much on the verge of death, Gine ascends to Super Saiyan. Frieza doesn't even get the chance to transform into his final form as Gine, with a single kick, literally sends Frieza flying all the way around the world un able to stop himself. As Frieza's path brings him back to Gine, he barely has the time to process what just happened before Gine clotheslines him into oblivion.
I cannot express the joy I feel when I watch your What-ifs and I'm so glad that you are willing to completely explore each of them. The Gine what-if is among my favorites (not that I have any less affection for the others mind you) and it makes me really happy to see the next installment. Thank you for being amazing and enriching the DBZ world for us.
Thank Kami I don’t have classes till 10:00 so I can watch this. I love this series!
So, what your saying is, GIne decked Frieza in the schnoz? Must be a family thing.
I've never clicked on a video so fast.
Faster than the speed of light.
Surrender now or prepare to Fight fight fight!
13:14
Gine: "Oooh, I can do this! I'm winning!"
Freeza: *powers up*, "How about now?"
Gine: :O
What if Raditz and Nappa BOTH turned good?
Goten gets a s*** ton of character development!
What if Turles turned good?
*Googling* What-if frieza turn good
*Google* No Results.
They'd betray Vegeta, still lose but Goku would jump in save the day like in the normal show, yes with help from his friends of course, then as Nappa and Raditz are healing up Nappa would still chastise Raditz for being a weakling until Raditz reminds him how "you do realize MY Brother kakarot sent the prince packing just yesterday" shutting Nappa up at least momentarily causing Goku and Raditz to chuckle in their respective hospital beds since they don't have senzu beans at the time.
But if you double cross us, it’ll be more than your tail that gets cut off
Vegeta: What!? You’re going to castrate me!!
Goku: chi chi threatens people with that all the time
The more important question is will she marry an earthling
Nah Masako seems to be solidifying the fact that Bardock was her one and only so She'll most likely be the chill grandma / great grandma
@@MegaMilkInspector She is a GILF lol
Cough cough Gine and Mr. Satan
Nope, once you go sayian you never go back~
11:54
Gine: I'd focus less on your scouter and more on that mountain over there.
Freeza: Frankly I'd say it's more of a plat- *Punch* -EEEEAAAAAAUUUUU! *Crash*
Also, Gine killing Zarbon and Dodoria, Perfect :)
wassup masako just wanted to say huge fan and i was wondering why you don't make a what if raditz turned good part 13.
This is honestly my favorite what if.
I hope Gine is the one to go Super Saiyan first.
I say Kakarot first, then Freeza gets an upper hand on him to make everyone thinks he’s dead, then Gine attacks Freeza in a grief-stricken rage, then SHE goes Super Saiyan, then Kakarot comes back and Freeza gets tag-teamed into oblivion.
Fun times all around.
@@mplumley95 No. Freezer kills Goku who ends up in King Kai's planet and Gine loses it.
Gine: "THAT'S MY BABY BOOOOOOOYYYYYY!!!!" *turns into the first SSJ*
Alex Macmillan I figure Frieza would try to blast Gine, but Kakarot would take the bullet for her.
Alex Macmillan Freeza could fire a Death Beam at her and wound her like he did Piccolo in the original story. She could get healed later, but her getting THAT close to death could potentially trigger Kakarot’s Super Saiyan transformation. I’m imagining a teary-eyed exchange before she slips into unconsciousness, then Kakarot goes ballistic.
I mean, it’d be more original than killing Krillin again, and after a heal she could come back and potentially go Super Saiyan herself. If Freeza were to temporarily get the upper hand on Kakarot and the latter’s power level disappeared (this happened in the anime, leading to a filler scene with Gohan confronting Freeza), I have no doubt that Gine would throw herself at Freeza in anguish. All the tyrant would have to do is push her buttons a little at that point, and . . . well, Hell hath no fury.
I’m just joining the channel and man brother these stories are so compelling! My kids and I have turned it into a “movie night” if you will. We say Gine tells FREEZA “ The Hard Way!...This is for Bardock and the Sayians!” And charges full tilt at Freeza. Can’t wait for the next installment! 👍🏽
What if Goku wished he was imortal
Christopher Peterson *immortal.
Shenron would never have the power to do that to a warrior like him
Nah. Goku would never make a wish that would make a fight easy.
Sayian saga without Kaioken and Genki Dama? Guess for yourself.
He'll be the most broken character at the end of db franchise topping beerus and being equal to jiren. And yeah it's a safe bet that no way he's strong as whis!!
That last scene with Gine in the movie almost made me cry.
"Don't forget us Kakarot"
Yet he still does..........MASAKO I NEED WHAT IF'S TO FILL THE HOLE IN MY HEART!!!!!!!
He hit his head what if he was acting up with gohan because he wanted to go home.
@@devonstidham9234 doubt it positive he doesn't remember
@@alphawolf7417 we know he doesn't I was meaning the head injury is what people think caused it. It is would be interesting how things would change if he remembered his parents.
what if ....Vegeta and Goku both went to earth as kids
1. grandpa Gohan would have had his hands full, and after the two of them get a blow to the head, they get along great, Goku still being himself in the anime while Vegeta still retains some knowledge of his heritage 2. when first encountering the dragon, Vegeta would have had his heart set on a. reviving the saiyens that died due to Frieza or b. find out if he and Goku were truly the last (so no surprise visit from Raditz, or Napa [optional Browly]) 3. Gohan and Trunks would have been about the same age
making them a force to be reckoned with in the Buu arc
[these are just a few ideas that could happen that i thought up]
Isn't Vegeta like 5 years older than Goku?
@@PharaohTerrellGaming that is why i say Vegeta would only have some memory loss
If that'd happen then it'd be just like if they were kid trunks and Goten, Goku would be Vegeta's lackey basically singing his praise's and Vegeta would...well ..be Vegeta. I'm saying this as a Huge Vegeta fan when I say it'd get kinda sad after a while
Aww man I've have recently watched a lot of these and all these videos really tickle my dragon Ball lore button, I really really enjoy all your videos and can't wait to see what happens next in this particular story
What if Raditz arrives gets killed by frieza and Gine goes super Saiyan awesome story by the way :)
Frieza kills Raditz and then Krillin
@@ChrisingoXD47 frieza death beams raditz raditz slowly collapses krillin comes to rescue raditz but krillin is blown up as raditz passes causing mom and son super Saiyan duo vs frieza.. but kakarot would be like mom....let me finish frieza ….Bardock would've wanted me to....I never knew my father but...I know its what he would want
@@kevinmoore2474 That is exactly what I was thinking. They both fight him for a bit and overwhelm him and Kakarot finishes the job.
@MasakoX, thank you for making my 20th birthday kick off with an amazing start!
What if Vegeta went ssj2 when Trunks dies to Cell?
won't change much, he'd be weaker then Ssj 2 Gohan and Super perfect cell. I guess the same ki blast would probably knock cell to the ground instead of bothering him tho.
Whats the proof of this? I know there's about 20 different power level charts at that point, and that ssj2 is about a 100x multiplier.
The self proclaimed best power level scale puts ssj Vegeta at 820,000,000, ssj2 Gohan is 1,800,000,000. That would mean ssj2 Vegeta is 8,200,000,000. Even if that isnt over ssj1, that's still 1,640,000,000. Gohan was at about 1,200,000,000 after being damaged by S.P. Cell
It's perfectly reasonable he coukd deal some damage, considering the final flash would have obliterated P. Cell.
@@TheCompleteMental where did you get those numbers? Even an hypothical Ssj 2 Goku during the time would be weaker then Ssj 2 Gohan. It's pretty much this:
Ssj Goku (warm up)< FP ssj Vegeta (stated that Vegeta can do better in the warm up)< FP ssj Goku (Vegeta was pissed that he was surpassed again)< FP ssj Gohan (Gohan clearly sees goku's movements casually) therefore Vegeta
dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:The_real_MOST_ACCURATE_list_of_power_levels?useskin=oasis
Where did you get your numbers?
Trunks doesn't get ss2 in the cell saga
I seriously can't wait to see the next part of this What If story. I adore Gine, and I really wish that they could have implemented her into the main series. I mean, you never know, Goku could go on some journey through Otherworld and meet her, but with how Goku is now in Super...yeah, I don't think I'd enjoy it quite as much, he's just not the same character that he was in Z. Still though, doesn't change that it would be amazing for Goku to actually meet his mother
10:39
It's over freeza, I have the high ground.
Love to see this story finally back! The question is... who is going to go super saiyan first? (Pls let Gine be ok)
This Kakarot...I like this one. Oofy.
there's not enough like buttons in the world @MasakoX! Great job again on another story, but I don't know that I can wait much longer for another one!
What if both raditz and Goku got sent to earth at the same time
That would be an interesting story. I could see Radifz being ths tough older brother looking after Kakarrot and the both of them training under Grandpa Gohan
I recently had a discussion with a friend in which he cited a theory that tech advancements are likely to be achieved by someone else within 10 years if something prevents their completion.
With that in mind, Cell and the Androids could have been created even if Goku hadn’t stomped the RR Army and I spited Dr. Gero.
I think a cool what if might be “what if none of the Saiyans escaped planet Vegeta.
Maybe Raditz shows up as just a regular conqueror and monkeystomps Piccolo Daimao, a Resistance forms led by Mai (similar to the Goku Black/ future Trunks time line) and then the Androids and Cell are created as liberators by Bulma.
That presents an opportunity to create some unique Androids, maybe Krillin undergoes the process. Master Rosho becomes General Roshi after Kame House is destroyed and all his girly magazines go up in flames.
Maybe some weird “Android core” plot line happens since there are no dragon balls so bringing the Androids back requires clones to be grown around the cores. Maybe the cores contain fragments of the now inert dragon balls.
A lot of directions to go there I think.
What ever happened to what if broly turned good?
Alexandria Munion it’s finished
He may return to it masako has a ton of what ifs. But with broly being Canon it's hard to say what will happen. Wait tell we get what if broly was sent to earth
It got turned into a movie
Alexandria Munion I don’t think we’ll need that anymore. We already have a Broly turned good.
@@astraldirectrix true
6:26 **laughs in frieza's death ball** "Heh"
WHAT IF GINE WENT WITH GOKU? PART 8 SPOILER ALERT:
Krillin uses Solar Flare to blind Freeza, Yamcha then cuts Freeza in half with his Sword, then Tien does a Kikoho to Freeza's remains.
Gine says to Kakarot, Gohan & Vegeta:
(□-□) Damn,
( •_•)>/■-■ Never thought it would be
that easy for Freeza to get
(/■-■) ... ICED-OUT
*Everyone laughs, even Vegeta*
*Vegeta goes with the Z-fighters to live on earth*
*Cooler, Dr. Gero, and Bibadi are instantly defeated whenever they show up*
THE END
Alex Macmillan I have no ownership on this other then I just made it up. Go for it, dude.
Correcting Yamcha uses Solar Flare to blind Freeza, Tenshinhan then uses Kikoho to paralyze him, then Kuririn cuts Freeza in half with his Kienzan, then Chi Chi ends with a Kamehameha the remains of Freeza.
tulio pereira Yamcha has never used solar flare, it's fair to say he does not know how to do it. Yamcha's only incapacitating technique he has would be the after-image technique, and that would only work if he is faster than Freeza.
tulio pereira your correction is invalid.
Alex Macmillan that would be perfection
BIBADI.
Kind of a random thought but if Raditz and Bardock were there and someone like Guru knew of the ssj god ritual and every saiyan got along, then they couldve skipped straight to ssj God and wouldve been invincible. But thats a hell of a stretch for a what if.
True and that would be terrifying cell and buu wouldn't stand a chance time chamber would help alot Goku would have alot of energy
Nice, almost caught it as it dropped, lol
Yes finally I waited at least a couple of months FINALLY!!!
I feel like Gine will continue to fight Freezer and the fight will go much as it did with Piccolo when he fused with Nail. Though at this moment, the primal instinct in Gine allows her to use the Kaioken successfully and catch up with Freezer's power level (maybe even surpass it eventually). Freezer then reveals his third form and gains the upper hand against Gine, which then leads to Vegeta thinking "Hah, the low-class wench failed. Looks like I will have to step in". He does so and Freezer with his guard down (since he was picking on Gine) is sent flying by Vegeta's punch. Not even realizing it, Vegeta feels he has finally become a Super Saiyan. This pushes Freezer to transform into his Final Form because Vegeta just annoyed him.
With Gine's power increase, if you say (MasakoX) she was at 750,000, her power level after receiving a Zenkai Boost (If you treat it the same way Goku received his like the original version of the Ginyu Saga), Gine's power would reach just under 25 million, surpassing both Kakarrot and Freezer (while at just 2%). I believe she would have suffered the same scenario Piccolo suffered when fighting Third Form Freezer (Being shot by multiple Death Beams nearly killing Gine/Piccolo)
After receiving this power increase from Dende's healing, she notices that both Vegeta and Kakarrot are fighting Freezer together. Kakarrot must have known Vegeta wouldn't stand a chance and decided to go and help him. (Like you said Masako, Vegeta would have achieved a power level equal to Gine's before the Zenkai boost, making Vegeta: 50,000) Vegeta would have tried to make Kakarrot leave but then is convinced that he would die if he fought Freezer alone. With after the two have fought of Freezer for a bit, they notice a massive boost in power, It's Gine and she is ready to fight Freezer. The two back down and let Gine go for round 2.
While the fight between Frieza and Gine is going on, they would both be on an equal playing field. Freezer would have powered up a bit to match Gine's because Gine, much like she was a few minutes ago, would have wanted to embarrass her opponent and just let them power up. Like Mother, like Son "Kakarrot"
Meanwhile, Goku and Vegeta need to think of a way to get stronger. Then they do what they did in the 'What if Goku married Bulma' episode, ki blast each other to the point of near-death so they could power up enough. Vegeta shoots Goku first so the following event happens. Gine notices a sudden power decrease from Goku and pauses in the middle of the battle. Freezer is able to gain an attack of opportunity and Gine is now on the backfoot.
Sorry if this is a little too long, I just wanted to post my own theory.
I keep having this what if in my head. I was thinking "what if Jeice turned good?"
For The What If Bardock Convinced The Saiyans Make It So That Both Goku And Bardock Become Super Saiyan At The Same Time As In The Original, Bardock Witnesses Raditz's Death By Frieza And Goku Witnesses Krillin's Death By Frieza
These what if's should be longer, keep em goin' Masako