I Ranked Every Spec In Dragonflight PvP... For One Last Time

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  • @wintercrowngaming
    @wintercrowngaming 12 дней назад +22

    Enhance in A- a little wild

    • @Steevvee
      @Steevvee 12 дней назад +2

      Yeah it has crazy potential. Which is what i think hes going off with this pick. Im at 2600 rating and i barely see any of them but when i do they oneshot people very quickly.

  • @haplo19
    @haplo19 12 дней назад +8

    I'm new to PvP but the balance has felt super good. Even DH is reasonable after the last nerfs. I think Ret is still a little spicy.

    • @Memoop-iz6vk
      @Memoop-iz6vk 9 дней назад +2

      Let ret be spicy they've been mediocre this xpac I'm glad they are letting them shine a bit and I don't even play one

    • @enzoshink7597
      @enzoshink7597 20 часов назад

      Fdk in f tier sice wrath lol...

  • @chalky77white
    @chalky77white 11 дней назад +5

    Enh over SV is a bit ridiculous 🤣

  • @draknoiren5669
    @draknoiren5669 2 дня назад

    Him looking at Survival in Ranged was so fcking funny to see

  • @SonOfTheImam
    @SonOfTheImam 12 дней назад +16

    Bro, my ocd jumped insanely high when you didn’t put brewmaster under the tanks 😂❤

  • @M0SA1C_
    @M0SA1C_ 12 дней назад +2

    Happy birthday!

  • @jcvm8915
    @jcvm8915 12 дней назад +5

    Shadow Play is absolutely CRACKED..............................the rest is fine

    • @Rebella1337
      @Rebella1337 12 дней назад

      lol yea.. I think so too.

    • @TheBenytoxelay
      @TheBenytoxelay 10 дней назад +2

      and no skill they play triangle 40 yard take 0 risk and spam cc and wait for mana they dont even try to kill they just wait until they win

  • @lucasskywalkercortez4533
    @lucasskywalkercortez4533 10 дней назад +2

    Would lovvveeeee to see you do a 0 to hero challenge on Enhancement. You will drop it a few tiers.

  • @johnwild-st4ed
    @johnwild-st4ed 12 дней назад +3

    next up: a tier list for DF tier lists

  • @joshr9703
    @joshr9703 10 дней назад +2

    we need a tier list for old man wrists (aka fewest buttons)

    • @frostgodx
      @frostgodx 10 дней назад +4

      Dh
      Fury
      BM
      Devastation
      FDK
      There you go ✅

    • @joshr9703
      @joshr9703 9 дней назад

      @@frostgodx thx are there any healers do u think

    • @Memoop-iz6vk
      @Memoop-iz6vk 9 дней назад

      ​@@joshr9703prob disc priest easiest/shaman being the hardest with button count

  • @jbugjbugjbug
    @jbugjbugjbug 12 дней назад +2

    Assa is op if you’re not playing any of its hard counters but it’s likely that you are… dark iron dwarf/dwarf/dragons/any rets can rip off all your dots, especially dragons make it so you can’t use deathmark

  • @cappm4201
    @cappm4201 12 дней назад

    Are you gonna be doing separate tier list or coverage for rated BGB next season?

  • @GrimmRanger-Thrall
    @GrimmRanger-Thrall 12 дней назад

    yo Ven, any new builds for arcane sense reset of beta ?

  • @imthrillz5255
    @imthrillz5255 12 дней назад +1

    Me as a ret pal and fire mage main for TWW: i see this as an absolute win

    • @Johnny-yx2qx
      @Johnny-yx2qx 12 дней назад

      Okay sheep

    • @Rheticle
      @Rheticle 12 дней назад +2

      Except ret on beta right now might actually be the worst spec in the game at the moment. Obviously beta means nothing but just be prepared for another BFA type of expansion where ret is mid

    • @derrickhead
      @derrickhead 6 дней назад

      ret is mid af its just alot of wanna bees playing it

  • @BlazereWow
    @BlazereWow 11 дней назад

    I agree too dragonflight is a well balanced expansion for pvp .

  • @dilididli2274
    @dilididli2274 7 дней назад

    UDK is the most represented spec in top100 of both solo shuffle (EU and US). Its definitly deserve to be in S tier.

  • @Weizyzd
    @Weizyzd 12 дней назад +1

    Very balanced "splay"

  • @therockontheshelf
    @therockontheshelf 12 дней назад +3

    Maybe its just me in EU but I feel like as ele sham I dont get trained all that much, 99% of your damage is instant cast so they dont stop anything by training you, you just drag them behind a pillar, thunderstorm+static+cap and can easily punish over extended melees out of LoS from their healer. Your passive tankiness from high armor, earth shield etc and the fact you rarely ever need to cast make you a not very appealing target in most cases though depends what your team mate is. As long as you play with a team mate thats an even better target than you, or any caster that you cant allow to just free cast your golden.

    • @MrZozotier
      @MrZozotier 11 дней назад

      What is you're rating ? If you are 2300+ give me you're spec plz (link)

    • @therockontheshelf
      @therockontheshelf 11 дней назад +1

      @@MrZozotier oh I'm way lower than that lol only came back a few weeks ago and don't get much time to play, just copied the 3s build thr top players on Murlock in were using, between normal procs, haste from PW splintered elements and windbreaker lava resurgence giving lava surge after every earth shock to fill in gaps between natural procs you have solid consistent damage without ever hard casting. Only hard casts are hex and ice fury rly

    • @MrZozotier
      @MrZozotier 11 дней назад

      @@therockontheshelf i see ty alot bud

  • @drewwil891
    @drewwil891 8 дней назад

    Lmao at whoever said all casters are S tier 😂

  • @boganbattalion7088
    @boganbattalion7088 12 дней назад

    I am so over getting the balanced feeling one season out of an expansion

    • @viberaider6852
      @viberaider6852 12 дней назад

      DF has felt very balanced as a whole expansion outside of the op ret rework s1 and dhs early in s4

  • @jameskim1505
    @jameskim1505 12 дней назад

    Fury War and Assa Rogue are in same tier is just insane

    • @Steevvee
      @Steevvee 11 дней назад

      they arent

    • @pharmztko
      @pharmztko 11 дней назад

      Bro lay off the weed your brain is rotting

  • @edwardhatfield5360
    @edwardhatfield5360 10 дней назад

    I've only played retribution nearly constantly since the end of BFA but I don't know how the hell it's not C tier. Maybe it is just C tier with me at the helm. As soon as I use BoP or Bubble it is removed early and with the only two defensives not blocked by Forbearance active I just flop. I can try to do burst, get cced, clear it, try to burst, get CCed immediately, by then I'm half health and CCed so I use a strong defensive and just die in the next few seconds whether bubble or BoP is removed early or not. With BiS gear and a 3 second TTK I can't get much done before I'm dead. I'm usually the kill target so Blessing of Spellwarding won't save me while I die during fear, Blessing of Sacrificing my teammates won't save me because I'm the kill target. If I cleanse my healers CC with Sanctuary, they just get cc locked again. I can't justify all of the Retribution nerfs that came through.

  • @merkkenem
    @merkkenem 12 дней назад +2

    As an outlaw rogue main. I feel like im the only one playing it lol

    • @chrisofblades5167
      @chrisofblades5167 11 дней назад +1

      I feel the same about Sub rogue. I got to 2200 in stupid shuffle and not one sub rogue other than me.

    • @maagi1
      @maagi1 11 дней назад

      @@chrisofblades5167 It's rare to get same spec you are playing in the same lobby

    • @chrisofblades5167
      @chrisofblades5167 11 дней назад +1

      Nah, I can play whatever is meta and que up with two or three same specs

    • @merkkenem
      @merkkenem 11 дней назад +1

      ​@@chrisofblades5167 i rarely even get matched against a rogue in solo but when I do its assassin 4 real. Even in raids or open BGs rogue seem to not be played at least now in season 4

    • @maagi1
      @maagi1 10 дней назад

      @@chrisofblades5167 If there are no other specs available then you get matched with same spec sometimes, and if you play meta, then ofc that will be the case. Sub and outlaw rogue are more rare, so you should get faster que and not match with same spec.

  • @hoozy6919
    @hoozy6919 12 дней назад

    I feel like if you have to differentiate between A and A-, then everything in A- is just upper B...

  • @Fyrenkeks
    @Fyrenkeks 11 дней назад

    I noticed later into the video you missed out in comoaring your evaluation with ladder data and it was only your and the chats opinion

  • @Asmodeius
    @Asmodeius 12 дней назад +1

    have to agree on this expansion being most balanced ever. i have every class, played every spec. 1800 on all toons season 4 and 2100 on resto shaman. im no glad or r1, but i know my fair share of game.

    • @Asmodeius
      @Asmodeius 12 дней назад

      would swap resto druid and shamans. resto druids get owned by long games and tools a bit lacking. resto shaman build mastery, with all the tool kit (if you can handle the bloat) is so much more superior. you underestimate resto shamans by a ton.

    • @Asmodeius
      @Asmodeius 12 дней назад

      on rogues topic. rogues overall not having a great season. i donno what blizzard did with them, but it's nearly impossible to crank out any damage as rogue, meanwhile they are squishy as they should be. no matter which spec you play, your sustain damage is very, very mediocre. you never see numbers close to mage, dh, ret pal, like never, and rogues are supposedly killers. their entire game play revolves around making a good set up and cc. now to the good set up thing. rogue set ups come around about once every 2 minutes. so in solo shuffle in 1 round you can make a move 2 times a game, if you fail on 2nd move, and did not secure a kill, your team will lose 90% of the time, unless you're carried by some super damage dealing dps. i barely got to 1800 on assassin rogue. no mater what i did, i could never crank out any reasonable damage. all rogues i've encountered this season lost nearly all games. there would be one rogue, once in a blue moon, who would carry entire lobby and generally execute the set up with extreme precision every round. so unless you can do that, as a rogue, you're wasted slot on a team. again, in SS you have 2 shots to win a round, if you fk up, it's 90% a loss. all the other time outside of set ups, you just run around, doing pretty much nothing, throwing cc here and there. in reality might not even dps cause, that dps barely adds to anything.

    • @Asmodeius
      @Asmodeius 12 дней назад

      s tier range dps. devastation evoker and moonkin.

    • @maagi1
      @maagi1 11 дней назад

      2100 is currently super low, so you should agree with ven lmao

    • @Asmodeius
      @Asmodeius 11 дней назад

      @@maagi1 exactly why i disagree. because it does not portray reality for 90% of player base. the list should take into consideration 51% of player base to be true. if 90% cant play rogue , rogue cant be S tier simply because pikaboo and 2 others can do it. like i agree with ret placement, because 51% if not more can do well with the spec. meanwhile enhancement shaman should be some where in D, because only 2% can play it.

  • @Nick-uk7ox
    @Nick-uk7ox 12 дней назад

    as someone who heals a ret in 3s at 2500 ret is solid C tier

  • @Drualeaf
    @Drualeaf 11 дней назад +1

    There is no balance. 😂😂

  • @happyheals69
    @happyheals69 11 дней назад +1

    Time for Someone of your caliber to take Tank Solo Shuffle queues to the next level.

  • @magdabrownis265
    @magdabrownis265 12 дней назад

    It is a well balanced game ATM. I got every class to at least 1800 for the Tmogs

    • @gorack12
      @gorack12 11 дней назад

      Which mogs the old r14?

    • @maagi1
      @maagi1 11 дней назад

      1800 is starting mmr atm lmao

  • @zeetskeet5355
    @zeetskeet5355 3 дня назад

  • @Brok3n_54
    @Brok3n_54 10 дней назад

    BESDIES Tanks game feels more balanced as it has in a long time

  • @adaneshade
    @adaneshade 9 дней назад

    Frost DK needs death strike nerfs reverted badly to feel sustainable enough to grind down opponents.

  • @Fabolousyo
    @Fabolousyo 12 дней назад +3

    Bro in which world is enhancement Shaman A tier? Its C tier with frost dk

    • @viberaider6852
      @viberaider6852 12 дней назад +1

      Id say btier, but yeah not with ww for sure

    • @Memoop-iz6vk
      @Memoop-iz6vk 9 дней назад

      The dude don't know what he's talking about sometimes on these tier lists enhancement/ feral is b tier they are the easiest thing to kill in the game right now but do good dmg

  • @Kerek77
    @Kerek77 12 дней назад

    I love affliction in 2s but not 3s lol

  • @robertoalvarez2935
    @robertoalvarez2935 11 дней назад

    Ret is A tier
    Flash of light 70k
    Word of Glory holy spender/mana 80k, all other hybrids got buffs to healing, most non hybrids heal/shield more
    Two major defensives can be dispelled, broken or stolen
    “Freedom” dispelled or stolen leading to permanent snares regardless of range not being able to move makes it hard to LoS damage.
    Outdated mechanic with forbearance
    Gutted PvP talents
    Melee that requires half their cc if chosen to be casted
    A tier is where they belong because during the first two minutes of a game if they aren’t the main kill target they can carry a lobby but if they are the KT they fall off a bit in the first two minutes with a steep drop off after that.
    Side note playing ret last night against dk frost mage assa rogue I was the KT 4 rounds with two of those having the assa rogue on my team. One match I couldn’t make it around the corner with the spam of snares grips etc

    • @DH-ht9pl
      @DH-ht9pl 11 дней назад

      Ret is s tier

  • @johanwinnem7532
    @johanwinnem7532 12 дней назад +4

    DH have ruined the entire expansion

    • @tmking90
      @tmking90 5 дней назад

      Ya was so broken at the start just now getting to not be broken af

  • @ProgresikSkowron97
    @ProgresikSkowron97 9 дней назад

    BRO PUT FIRE BELOW ARMS XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

  • @chairswing
    @chairswing 12 дней назад

    Im not a good player but Resto Shaman surprised me a little
    Feels like they are fighting with holy pala who has the lowest output, but resto shaman makes up for it with all the utility and disruption.
    But that's hard for not so good players to do, at 2k rating in SS it definitely feels a lot weaker than Disci

    • @Steevvee
      @Steevvee 11 дней назад

      nah resto shaman has alot of cc, if used correctly and people stay in totem range its very strong.

  • @marcosmorfin5619
    @marcosmorfin5619 12 дней назад

    The A- section was so stupid hahahaha

  • @Kronosbattlemaps
    @Kronosbattlemaps 12 дней назад

    Dev evoker, assassin and marks still broken :(

  • @Asmodeius
    @Asmodeius 12 дней назад

    survival is in melee you looking at range. its there on column to the left lol

  • @Cyclone435
    @Cyclone435 12 дней назад

    No way warrior is same tier as dk or NA is just a diff game in eu on high cr warrior feels like c tier

  • @derrickhead
    @derrickhead 6 дней назад

    i hate that so many people play ret now because it sugar coats our problems because its popular now i remember back in burning crusade and wrath and stuff nobody respected us especially in pve

  • @PeterTheDeleter
    @PeterTheDeleter 10 дней назад

    saying an assa rogue is very durable is a wild take but ok

  • @everbard3071
    @everbard3071 12 дней назад

    As a brand new arena player (never played before this season), the specs I hate to see across from me are unholy and affliction.

  • @ninacuk
    @ninacuk 12 дней назад +2

    First🎉
    Now wish me happy birthday

  • @jdstko1
    @jdstko1 12 дней назад +3

    Balanced or not the game is just not fun

    • @effortlessGFX
      @effortlessGFX 11 дней назад

      *In your opinion, which you are entitled to.

    • @ghanthony72
      @ghanthony72 3 дня назад

      I've been having a blast in df

    • @steadychill5775
      @steadychill5775 12 часов назад

      Love WoW it's been a part of me for 20 years

  • @paulrichter1846
    @paulrichter1846 12 дней назад

    why is no augmentation listed?

    • @Agonius
      @Agonius 12 дней назад +2

      POV: You didn't watch the video and just skipped to the end

  • @goldenzbeatmaker
    @goldenzbeatmaker 12 дней назад

    i play rd 1950 , is good actualy but not s tier for me evo is for sure the best , clause follow by sham , i want to put rd in a tier with priest maybe priest better than rd

  • @gruuzol6280
    @gruuzol6280 12 дней назад +1

    Been a feral main since cata lol

  • @Bgsimp
    @Bgsimp 10 дней назад

    Its pretty sad how long holy pally has been bad

  • @ferbz5936
    @ferbz5936 12 дней назад +1

    Aug evoker is S++

  • @FCBcubano
    @FCBcubano 7 дней назад

    Idk why you say holy priest is a teir lol they die so fast and so easy

  • @SlayerMantis
    @SlayerMantis 12 дней назад

    Outlaw is just RNG heavy. Sure you could roll and get Mastery, Crit, and Haste, Or you could get.. Not that.

  • @powerful7027
    @powerful7027 11 дней назад

    Arms is honestly probably a C or D tier spec. Fury is better in every way and I feel like no good warrior is even playing Arms.

  • @StrobeFireStudios
    @StrobeFireStudios 12 дней назад

    Agree with all of it, except Enhance is utterly trash. It's such a confused spec. It's caught in the middle of being a damage dealer and a support class and excels at neither of those roles. It's also got way too many buttons that ultimately do nothing.

  • @Huckle_Billy
    @Huckle_Billy 11 дней назад +1

    You used to produce quality content and now you just post bogus tier lists that aren't even accurate lol. Cmon bro.

    • @maagi1
      @maagi1 11 дней назад +1

      What isn't accurate in this tier list?

  • @Chidorie12
    @Chidorie12 12 дней назад +1

    Arms at A tier is diabolical. As a main arms. Fury>Arms atm. Arms should be B. I have almost never lose to an Arms. no matter what comp I play

    • @Handsomebastard69
      @Handsomebastard69 12 дней назад

      Cause there's a lot of dogshit arms warriors, arms is a solid spec with high utility that most of the playerbase don't utilise properly

    • @Steevvee
      @Steevvee 11 дней назад +3

      this is why you arent making the tier lists cause Arms is doing better then fury is every single bracket in pvp.

  • @leachyxd6990
    @leachyxd6990 12 дней назад

    BM at a B is crazy. BM is one of the main classes I feel that dominate arenas

  • @justinjones3326
    @justinjones3326 11 дней назад

    One of the most balanced.... false.... there are 4 rogues in the top 10 on the 3v3 us leader board 40% of the top 10 are rogue and only 1 caster.... and its a ill give you one guess what class it is... mage obviously......... season 1 they tried to give me a 40% buff to my base spells as an aff lock with the tier set while others like monk got 5% buffs with tier..... wow balance is soo unbelievably bad..... i was going to watch but then one min in you start lieing sooo im out gl...... like we all just say the IZN video on shamans defense vs mage defense....

  • @illosophie
    @illosophie 12 дней назад

    BM is so boring

  • @AzarelVincy
    @AzarelVincy 7 дней назад

    Lol a nothing is bad tierlist. Mw is the worst healer in shuffle and 3s. Hpal is about as bad but has more comps. Sad I fall for the usual tierlist clickbait. Damn you youtube.

  • @oscr9098
    @oscr9098 12 дней назад +23

    Really bad flow of the video imo. It’s soo dragged out 😢

    • @everbard3071
      @everbard3071 12 дней назад +20

      It’s from his stream. He’s chatting with his viewers.

    • @mpark295
      @mpark295 12 дней назад +2

      Its wow df season 4. What do ppl expect 🤣

    • @jeeshhseej9347
      @jeeshhseej9347 12 дней назад +1

      Its what we watch for Ven is rifting

    • @dustinfidalgo915
      @dustinfidalgo915 6 дней назад

      TikTok brain

  • @Primal_Echo
    @Primal_Echo 12 дней назад +1

    Havoc is definitely not A tier. Its been whined and cried and nerfed into the ground. Everyone blamed havoc dh for their skill gap and its kinda bs.

    • @apierson244
      @apierson244 12 дней назад +5

      LOL DH is insane

    • @Primal_Echo
      @Primal_Echo 12 дней назад

      @@apierson244 ur definitely one of the crybabies that neutered it. 🙄

    • @apierson244
      @apierson244 11 дней назад

      @Primal_Echo you're probably a hard stuck 1800 DH LOL "I'm bad cause blizzard nerfed my class" LOL

    • @Primal_Echo
      @Primal_Echo 11 дней назад

      @@apierson244 wish I could send pics on here. 2340 right now. But that's not the point. The point is that it's people like you who are the hard stuck 1800s who blame DH for "being OP" when really it's just your lack of skill and ability to admit that you suck.

    • @maagi1
      @maagi1 11 дней назад +1

      @@Primal_Echo DH still has one of the highest damage, with every type of cc, damage immunity, short cd damage redu, cc immunity, dispel for healer, lots of mobility, etc..

  • @DarenothGriefs
    @DarenothGriefs 11 дней назад +2

    when you have to keep remaking the same video because your content is garbage and wow pvp is dead, 9-5 is coming soon lil bro

  • @vengeance8924
    @vengeance8924 12 дней назад +1

    i only clicked on this so i could dislike it. Dragonflight is asss

    • @maagi1
      @maagi1 11 дней назад

      That's very mature of you, kid